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JCMElway
03-16-2011, 09:54 PM
Hey all, just threw a couple of picks up from priority lists that were turned in. Expat or Eddiemac, will you please update the alpha list for the last 4 names? I'm to bed!

Thanks all!

BowlenBall
03-16-2011, 10:52 PM
The chance of the comp picks being announced next week has been upgraded to "likely":

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/38602/looking-ahead-to-compensatory-picks

When the NFL holds its annual meeting in New Orleans next week, we are likely to find out the compensatory picks for the 2011 draft.

This isn’t likely to have big implications for the NFC South because the complicated system for determining picks is based in large part on how many free agents teams lost and gained last year. Most NFC South teams weren’t major players in free agency and most did a good job of keeping key players from leaving via free agency.

This isn’t an exact science, but colleague John Clayton and I ran through our best guesses on the NFC South when we talked on the phone earlier today.

We think it’s pretty likely the Carolina Panthers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers) are going to be the only NFC South team that’s going to really matter in the compensatory picks. The Panthers lost Julius Peppers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3530) and several other free agents. Our best guess is that Carolina will end up with a third- and a sixth-round pick. Teams can trade their own draft picks but not compensatory picks.

Clayton and I don’t see the Atlanta Falcons (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/atl/atlanta-falcons) getting any compensatory picks. Tampa Bay and New Orleans each have a chance to add what probably will be a seventh-round pick.

Killericon
03-16-2011, 11:08 PM
Mayock's 2nd best safety at #91? (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81dd8ff0/article/underclassmen-prevalent-among-top-five-per-position) Done and done.

OBF1
03-16-2011, 11:44 PM
I love me some Ahmad Black. I have followed him the past few seasons at Florida. The kids just makes plays. Great value for sure :thumbs:

JCMElway
03-17-2011, 08:22 AM
The chance of the comp picks being announced next week has been upgraded to "likely":

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/38602/looking-ahead-to-compensatory-picks

When the NFL holds its annual meeting in New Orleans next week, we are likely to find out the compensatory picks for the 2011 draft.

This isnít likely to have big implications for the NFC South because the complicated system for determining picks is based in large part on how many free agents teams lost and gained last year. Most NFC South teams werenít major players in free agency and most did a good job of keeping key players from leaving via free agency.

This isnít an exact science, but colleague John Clayton and I ran through our best guesses on the NFC South when we talked on the phone earlier today.

We think itís pretty likely the Carolina Panthers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers) are going to be the only NFC South team thatís going to really matter in the compensatory picks. The Panthers lost Julius Peppers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3530) and several other free agents. Our best guess is that Carolina will end up with a third- and a sixth-round pick. Teams can trade their own draft picks but not compensatory picks.

Clayton and I donít see the Atlanta Falcons (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/atl/atlanta-falcons) getting any compensatory picks. Tampa Bay and New Orleans each have a chance to add what probably will be a seventh-round pick.

So, I guess we will pause the draft after Jebures' pick and wait for the comps to be announced. We are in very good shape as far as completing the draft, so we can wait for the comp picks to be doled out.

We do have three other options. We can A)ignore the comps and keep on rolling, B)Find a list of estimated comps and keep on rolling, or C)Keep the draft going and then go back and do the comp picks when they are announced. You lose a bit of value for those picks, but it would keep things moving and give everyone their selection at some point.

Unless anyone has any strong opinions, we will pause the draft and wait for the comps!

Requiem
03-17-2011, 09:02 AM
Chargers selection coming up soon, unless someone offers a trade in the next 15 minutes. It's down to four selections, all of which I feel are great value @ 94.

BowlenBall
03-17-2011, 09:10 AM
So, I guess we will pause the draft after Jebures' pick and wait for the comps to be announced. We are in very good shape as far as completing the draft, so we can wait for the comp picks to be doled out.

We do have three other options. We can A)ignore the comps and keep on rolling, B)Find a list of estimated comps and keep on rolling, or C)Keep the draft going and then go back and do the comp picks when they are announced. You lose a bit of value for those picks, but it would keep things moving and give everyone their selection at some point.

Unless anyone has any strong opinions, we will pause the draft and wait for the comps!

What's the point of being commissioner if you can't make unilateral decisions? You lead, we'll follow, big guy!

Rohirrim
03-17-2011, 09:41 AM
I suggest we just keep moving, given that the Bills' pick is coming up and they don't get any comp picks. ;D

eddie mac
03-17-2011, 09:44 AM
I think for some teams (we're rumoured to be getting a late one cos we were so **** last year) a comp pick announcement is vital given that without a CBA no team can sign UDFA's.

jebures
03-17-2011, 04:26 PM
I suggest we just keep moving, given that the Bills' pick is coming up and they don't get any comp picks. ;D

I agree, there is no gurantee there is going to be comp picks anyways. I could have sworn there were projection by this time last year already.

JCMElway
03-17-2011, 07:16 PM
Seeing as the draft does not occur until April 28 and that we have 6 weeks to get it done, let's pause the draft until comp selections are announced. Watch the board during the owners meetings!

JCMElway
03-17-2011, 07:29 PM
Sources: Brooks Reed moving up draft boards

University of Arizona outside linebacker-defensive end Brooks Reed is rising on NFL draft boards, according to league sources with knowledge of the situation.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ajxrfb69AL.F9udamofWT2dDubYF?slug=nfp-20110317_sources_brooks_reed_moving_up_draft_board s

Requiem
03-17-2011, 07:42 PM
Wonder what team in the West that scout is from. :)

brncs_fan
03-18-2011, 05:24 AM
This mock is taking forever... ;)

JCMElway
03-18-2011, 08:20 AM
Expat tells me that the picks may get announced Monday or Tuesday. If that's true it's just like a weekend off!

JCMElway
03-19-2011, 08:00 PM
Wow I miss the mock. I can hardly wait until I start herding cats again! Come on Comp picks!

BTW, please remember that comp picks cannot be traded.

kthnksbai

TheReverend
03-19-2011, 09:15 PM
I'll be packaging all my comp picks together to trade for future picks/players. PM me.

JCMElway
03-19-2011, 11:01 PM
I'll be packaging all my comp picks together to trade for future picks/players. PM me.

Boooooooo. BAD Reverend!

BowlenBall
03-19-2011, 11:04 PM
I'll be packaging all my comp picks together to trade for future picks/players. PM me.

ROFL!

BowlenBall
03-21-2011, 01:03 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post?id=19290

NEW ORLEANS -- The NFL owners meeting doesnít officially start until Monday, but I spent a lot of time in the hotel lobby Sunday afternoon and touched base with at least one official from every NFC South team.

Weíll have much more over the next couple days, but Iíll give you a preview. I had a very good chat with Atlanta Falcons (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/atl/atlanta-falcons) coach Mike Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8648) this afternoon and will have a column tomorrow in which the coach talks about what the Falcons need to do to take the next step. Theyíve had winning records in each of Smithís three seasons, but have yet to win a playoff game. Heís got some ideas on how to fix that and weíll put those out on the table.

Also, I had a nice visit with John Fox and his wife Robin. Fox isnít in the NFC South anymore. Heís coaching in Denver. But heís a guy I covered throughout his time in Carolina and, despite his shortness with the media, weíve got some good history. Letís just say Fox is looking well and seems excited about getting a fresh start.

Iíve got plans to meet with Atlanta general manager Thomas Dimitroff and Carolina Panthers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers) general manager Marty Hurney on Monday. I spoke briefly with Carolina owner Jerry Richardson, but that was just a visit and nothing formal. Heís been given an offer to talk on the record about the labor situation over the next few days and he said thatís at least a possibility.

Weíll also see if any other NFC South owners are talking. Iím planning to get with Carolina coach Ron Rivera, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/tb/tampa-bay-buccaneers) coach Raheem Morris and New Orleans Saints (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/no/new-orleans-saints) coach Sean Payton on Tuesday.

Also, we should have the list of compensatory draft picks either Monday or Tuesday.
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JCMElway
03-21-2011, 07:53 AM
That's good news about the comps.

BowlenBall
03-21-2011, 10:50 AM
Grrr... looks like we'll have to keep waiting -- at this point, I'd like to suggest that we resume the draft, then add in the comp picks at a later date.... otherwise, it's gonna be another 7 days at least....

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/21/compensatory-picks-expected-next-week/

Just like the Week 1 schedule (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/21/week-1-schedule-announcements-not-expected-at-meetings/), compensatory picks are not expected to be announced this week at the league’s owners meetings as they typically are.
Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com first reported the picks are expected to be announced (http://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/49810251414896640) a later date.
A league spokesman indicated to PFT it’s believed the picks will be ready next week. At that point, the league can announce the entire draft order.

TheReverend
03-21-2011, 10:54 AM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I might have 2 3rds coming for Dansby (43 million contract) and Rolle (all pro last year and pro bowl).

24champ
03-21-2011, 01:41 PM
Texans are also expecting a third rounder for Dunta Robinson.

TheReverend
03-21-2011, 01:52 PM
While we're on a time out, use this thread to analyze your picks from last year and their rookie performance and impact:

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=91425

Turns out I ****ing DOMINATED in 2010. 2011 will probably be even more dominant since I finally get to pick at the top of the rounds :)

24champ
03-21-2011, 02:03 PM
Link to the 2010 mock draft?

jebures
03-21-2011, 04:45 PM
While we're on a time out, use this thread to analyze your picks from last year and their rookie performance and impact:

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=91425

Turns out I ****ing DOMINATED in 2010. 2011 will probably be even more dominant since I finally get to pick at the top of the rounds :)

I wouldn't say you dominated, but Mediator sure did.

TheReverend
03-21-2011, 05:03 PM
I wouldn't say you dominated, but Mediator sure did.

He did great, but I'd put my group against his for sure (actual production, not their draft status).

Saffold and Alualu were huge gets (especially nabbing Tyson in the 3rd).

David Gettis was a PHENOMENAL pick in the 7th (13 starts for Carolina last year)

The rest made little to no impact (though in his defense I like Patrick Robinson a LOT better playing Indy's coverages).

jebures
03-21-2011, 06:09 PM
I did forget to mention that I got Sam Shields in the undrafted Free Agent round, now if you wanna talk about getting the most bang out of your buck, that is it.

JCMElway
03-21-2011, 07:50 PM
I have to agree with Expat here. waiting for another entire week will really put us behind the 8-ball as far as getting this thing done before the draft. Before we resume the draft, does anyone know if there is a list of projected comp picks? We can go 3with those, and then correct as best we can when the real draft comes out. If there is no projected list, we can continue right away.

TheReverend
03-21-2011, 08:12 PM
I have to agree with Expat here. waiting for another entire week will really put us behind the 8-ball as far as getting this thing done before the draft. Before we resume the draft, does anyone know if there is a list of projected comp picks? We can go 3with those, and then correct as best we can when the real draft comes out. If there is no projected list, we can continue right away.

There IS another option outside of wait, projected and ignore.

We COULD do them ourselves? There are 32 total compensatory picks... every team could post their biggest FA losses from 2010, post their accomplishments on their new team along with the contract and we could agree on where to place them.

Carmelo15
03-21-2011, 08:18 PM
While we're on a time out, use this thread to analyze your picks from last year and their rookie performance and impact:

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=91425

Turns out I ****ing DOMINATED in 2010. 2011 will probably be even more dominant since I finally get to pick at the top of the rounds :)

I would have to say I dominated as well :wiggle:

TheReverend
03-21-2011, 08:34 PM
I would have to say I dominated as well :wiggle:

Post it! We have no idea who you picked a full year later.

JCMElway
03-21-2011, 09:02 PM
There IS another option outside of wait, projected and ignore.

We COULD do them ourselves? There are 32 total compensatory picks... every team could post their biggest FA losses from 2010, post their accomplishments on their new team along with the contract and we could agree on where to place them.

Or we assemble our own panel to rate all the teams. Like we get six guys, one does each division. Could the six be me, expat, Mediator, Eddie mac, Reverend and Requiem.

Thoughts?

jebures
03-21-2011, 09:38 PM
Or we assemble our own panel to rate all the teams. Like we get six guys, one does each division. Could the six be me, expat, Mediator, Eddie mac, Reverend and Requiem.

Thoughts?

works for me

24champ
03-21-2011, 10:10 PM
Or we assemble our own panel to rate all the teams. Like we get six guys, one does each division. Could the six be me, expat, Mediator, Eddie mac, Reverend and Requiem.

Thoughts?

Long as the so called criteria factors in the size of the contract.

Also must make sure the players were not released. As in the Cardinals case with Rolle, they will not get compensation for him.


In order to qualify for the comp equation, a player must have been a true Unrestricted Free Agent whose contract had expired or was voided after the previous season (i.e., he cannot have been released by his old team); he must sign during the UFA signing period (which ended July 27 last year); if he signs after June 1, he must have been tendered a June 1 qualifying offer by his old team; his compensatory value or contract value must be above a specific minimum amount; and he cannot have been permanently released by his new team before a certain point in the season (which seems to be after Week 10) or, possibly, before getting a certain amount of playing time, unless he was claimed off waivers by another team.

http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2010/03/projecting-2010-compensatory-nfl-draft.html

JCMElway
03-21-2011, 10:19 PM
OK, I've got the call out to 6 drafters to see if they want to determine comp picks for a division. My ruling would be that a drafter may not determine the comp picks for the division in which the team they are drafting for exists.

TheReverend
03-21-2011, 10:37 PM
Long as the so called criteria factors in the size of the contract.

Also must make sure the players were not released. As in the Cardinals case with Rolle, they will not get compensation for him.




http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2010/03/projecting-2010-compensatory-nfl-draft.html

Crap you're right, he did get cut.

I also forgot that signing players negates the ones you lost in FA.

JCM, this guy did a pretty good job and laid out some solid explanations. I don't get any picks though :nono:

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/3/11/2044629/comp-pick-predictions

JCMElway
03-21-2011, 10:46 PM
Crap you're right, he did get cut.

I also forgot that signing players negates the ones you lost in FA.

JCM, this guy did a pretty good job and laid out some solid explanations. I don't get any picks though :nono:

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/3/11/2044629/comp-pick-predictions

I like, we're going with it. We can make corrections for 4th round on when the real ones come out. Here they are. Carolina, you are OTC!

3 - Carolina - Julius Peppers

3 - Tennessee - Kyle Vanden Bosch

4 - Green Bay - Aaron Kampman

4 - Seattle - Nate Burleson

5 - Baltimore - Justin Bannan

5 - New York Giants - Fred Robbins

6 - Miami - Nate Jones

6 - Minnesota - Chester Taylor

6 - San Diego - Brandon Manumaleuna

6 - Minnesota - Artis Hicks

6 - New York Giants - David Carr

6 - Carolina - AJ Feeley

6 - Kansas City - Wade Smith

7 - Philadelphia - Sean Jones

7 - Philadelphia - Jason Babin

7 - San Diego - Kassim Osgood

7 - New York Jets - Jay Feely

7 - Tampa Bay - Jimmy Wilkerson

7 - San Francisco - Arnaz Battle

7 - New Orleans

7 - New England

7 - Carolina

7 - Denver

7 - Buffalo

7 - Cincinnati

7 - Arizona

7 - Cleveland

7 - San Francisco

7 - Tennessee

7 - Dallas

7 - Washington

7 - Houston

24champ
03-22-2011, 02:29 AM
Crap you're right, he did get cut.

I also forgot that signing players negates the ones you lost in FA.

JCM, this guy did a pretty good job and laid out some solid explanations. I don't get any picks though :nono:

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/3/11/2044629/comp-pick-predictions

I was perturbed as to why the Texans don't get a 3rd for Dunta Robinson. Then I read this, and understood the logistics of the compensatory picks process. It's confusing and weird.

http://houston.sbnation.com/houston-texans/2011/2/15/1995540/dunta-robinson-is-not-giving-the-texans-a-third-round-pick

I am wondering if the Cardinals signed any free agents, since apparently that factors into your compensation picks.

OBF1
03-22-2011, 03:06 AM
My 2 cents worth....

If we are going to do Comp picks, lets do it per NFL rule, not take it into our own hands to now play god and think we know more about this than any of the so called experts making a living at this. Lets either wait (If they even come out with a list) of just move on with a "Real" mock draft. No need to try to out think ourselfs and re-invent the wheel.

JCMElway
03-22-2011, 08:19 AM
My 2 cents worth....

If we are going to do Comp picks, lets do it per NFL rule, not take it into our own hands to now play god and think we know more about this than any of the so called experts making a living at this. Lets either wait (If they even come out with a list) of just move on with a "Real" mock draft. No need to try to out think ourselfs and re-invent the wheel.

In a normal year we would be fine and could wait for the comp picks. However, in a year like this, who knows when they will do anything. Rev found a list with fairly good reasoning, and I want to keep this thing going and not lose too much momentum. Besides, we are doing this for fun, and the fun is making the picks. If someone gets mad because they choose in the 5th instead of the 4th for a mock draft, you need something more fulfilling in your life.

Anyway, game on! The mock is rolling again!

TheReverend
03-22-2011, 09:00 AM
I was perturbed as to why the Texans don't get a 3rd for Dunta Robinson. Then I read this, and understood the logistics of the compensatory picks process. It's confusing and weird.

http://houston.sbnation.com/houston-texans/2011/2/15/1995540/dunta-robinson-is-not-giving-the-texans-a-third-round-pick

I am wondering if the Cardinals signed any free agents, since apparently that factors into your compensation picks.

"Arizona led the league in qualifying free agency transactions and prediction difficulty. They lost their 3 (from Karlos Dansby) by signing more players than they lost."

JCMElway
03-22-2011, 01:22 PM
Just so everyone knows....

The draft is on again!!! Game on!!!!!

Mediator12
03-22-2011, 04:55 PM
Wow, love the players coming off the board since the break but really question the value here at the top of the 4th.

I think Salas is a really quality slot WR, but I already got Tandon Doss so I am not as upset about losing a quality slot WR as I would have been without him.

Archer81
03-22-2011, 05:10 PM
Wow, love the players coming off the board since the break but really question the value here at the top of the 4th.

I think Salas is a really quality slot WR, but I already got Tandon Doss so I am not as upset about losing a quality slot WR as I would have been without him.


I think Salas would be a good fit inside with Carolina working with Shockey and Stocker. With LaFell and Smith outside, they should have room to work and help out what will be a young QB.

:Broncos:

24champ
03-22-2011, 05:58 PM
"Arizona led the league in qualifying free agency transactions and prediction difficulty. They lost their 3 (from Karlos Dansby) by signing more players than they lost."

Sucks, you needed those picks to pick a quality QB. ;D

TheReverend
03-22-2011, 06:09 PM
Sucks, you needed those picks to pick a quality QB. ;D

I will fist you when I come to town. :wiggle:

JCMElway
03-22-2011, 07:12 PM
I will fist you when I come to town. :wiggle:

Ew. Reverends shouldn't do that sort of thing.

TheReverend
03-22-2011, 08:50 PM
Hell yeah! Got my guy!

BroncoMan4ever
03-22-2011, 09:54 PM
I will fist you when I come to town. :wiggle:

damn what the hell is up with seemingly all holy men being sexual deviants?

Mediator12
03-23-2011, 11:18 AM
OK, we started rolling last night. Let's get it going again peeps ;D

BowlenBall
03-23-2011, 12:14 PM
Are we still on a 12 hour clock, or have we switched to 6 hours between picks yet?

JCMElway
03-23-2011, 12:21 PM
12 hours. I thought we would go to the 6 hour in round 5, but let's see where we are when round 5 rolls around. We may not need to until two or three weeks before the draft.

Yeah, that sounds good. Let's go to the 6 hour clock three weeks before the actual draft.

JCMElway
03-23-2011, 02:55 PM
Sodak is OTC at 10:47 AM MST.

NFLBRONCO
03-23-2011, 03:15 PM
Need suggestions for Miami coming up PM me. Went OT RB so far.

BroncoMan4ever
03-23-2011, 03:31 PM
Need suggestions for Miami coming up PM me. Went OT RB so far.

well you need interior line help and a QB.

SoDak Bronco
03-23-2011, 07:05 PM
Pick is forthcoming...

JCMElway
03-23-2011, 10:29 PM
Need suggestions for Miami coming up PM me. Went OT RB so far.

Don't you have a co-gm for that sort of thing? Well here are the draft needs for the Dolphins.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/team-needs

NFLBRONCO
03-23-2011, 10:48 PM
Don't you have a co-gm for that sort of thing? Well here are the draft needs for the Dolphins.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/team-needs

Not online much

BowlenBall
03-24-2011, 05:08 AM
Man, there's nothing worse than picking behind Mediator12... he's gonna take my target, I just know it....

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 09:11 AM
Not online much

Dude, you're online when you go on the Mane!

BowlenBall
03-24-2011, 09:19 AM
Med better get his pick in a.s.a.p. -- I'll have my pick in at 12:32 + one second EST...

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 09:20 AM
Med better get his pick in a.s.a.p. -- I'll have my pick in at 12:32 + one second EST...

LOL Some of us take the mock too seriously. Like me and Expat!

NFLBRONCO
03-24-2011, 09:20 AM
Dude, you're online when you go on the Mane!

My co GM isn't online much esp near pick. I wanted him to be involved in picking as well.

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 09:21 AM
Well, I say just take over and run the show. Or get his phone number. I know Kahn and I have talked on the phone to plan our trade up for Reed.

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 09:22 AM
And frick, I crossed the 6k mark and didn't even realize. Wow......

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 09:23 AM
And NFLBronco, I know for a fact you'll be on the clock by 2:33 PM EST. So if you won't be around then, PM me a couple of options.

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 09:29 AM
Oh, frick, did he take your guy Expat? Mediator, like a sniper!

Mediator12
03-24-2011, 09:31 AM
Oh, frick, did he take your guy Expat? Mediator, like a sniper!

Highly doubtful. Most people are not as high on this kid as I am. he fits what INDY does on the back end, not what Pit does. In fact, I bet I know who he takes....

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 09:35 AM
Highly doubtful. Most people are not as high on this kid as I am. he fits what INDY does on the back end, not what Pit does. In fact, I bet I know who he takes....

PM me. Who is he taking?

TheReverend
03-24-2011, 09:50 AM
Highly doubtful. Most people are not as high on this kid as I am. he fits what INDY does on the back end, not what Pit does. In fact, I bet I know who he takes....

Nice pick Med. Far from one of the better all around corners I've seen, but he's really good at reacting and playing the ball.

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 09:52 AM
OK, Zona asked me to select for him in two hours if he was not around. Zona's pick will be made by 1:48 PM EST, or sooner!

BowlenBall
03-24-2011, 09:54 AM
Highly doubtful. Most people are not as high on this kid as I am. he fits what INDY does on the back end, not what Pit does. In fact, I bet I know who he takes....

You were probably thinking that I'd take a cornerback -- definitely haven't filled that glaring need for Pittsburgh yet, but you've gotta take the board as it comes, and I have Lawrence Guy as a nice developmental DE for our 3-4. Give the kid another two years to finish growing, and I think he'll do well.

Interesting pick of Gilchrist, Med -- you're right, he wasn't in my top 3 cornerbacks left on my board. What's the attraction?

TheReverend
03-24-2011, 09:58 AM
You were probably thinking that I'd take a cornerback -- definitely haven't filled that glaring need for Pittsburgh yet, but you've gotta take the board as it comes, and I have Lawrence Guy as a nice developmental DE for our 3-4. Give the kid another two years to finish growing, and I think he'll do well.

Interesting pick of Gilchrist, Med -- you're right, he wasn't in my top 3 cornerbacks left on my board. What's the attraction?

Ball skills are at a premium for cover 2 shells and similar zones.

Mediator12
03-24-2011, 10:58 AM
Nice pick Med. Far from one of the better all around corners I've seen, but he's really good at reacting and playing the ball.

He is a true tweener. The thing about this kid is he is an excellent open field tackler, unlike hardly any CB coming out, and he can play slot or CB with all the injuries INDY has had on the back end. He is really tough as a Safety too. Very assignment sound and can run the whole defense. Not as big as you would like, but he plays well above his numbers on tape.

Personally, I thought a team needing a free safety would have grabbed him by now. He reminds me of Tanard Jackson of TB without the drug problems ;D

Mediator12
03-24-2011, 11:00 AM
Lawrence Guy is a great 3-4 DE development player Expat. However, I am stunned you did not go CB there. There are a few PIT type CB's with some serious upside still on the board. Oh well, Guy fits what you all do to a "T".

BowlenBall
03-24-2011, 11:10 AM
He is a true tweener. The thing about this kid is he is an excellent open field tackler, unlike hardly any CB coming out, and he can play slot or CB with all the injuries INDY has had on the back end. He is really tough as a Safety too. Very assignment sound and can run the whole defense. Not as big as you would like, but he plays well above his numbers on tape.

Personally, I thought a team needing a free safety would have grabbed him by now. He reminds me of Tanard Jackson of TB without the drug problems ;D

That's what I love about doing the mock draft every year -- Gilchrist is one of those kids that I never, ever would have noticed otherwise. Now that I've done a little homework on him, he does look like a player (4.46 40, 10'6" broad jump, played in 53 games).

Think he could be a potential pickup for Denver or not?

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 12:02 PM
Zona's pick made at 2 PM ET....

TheReverend
03-24-2011, 12:38 PM
Hey JCM, looks like you missed Will Rackley on the alpha list. He was taken pretty early in the third.

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 12:40 PM
Good catch

TheReverend
03-24-2011, 01:01 PM
F'ing trade makes me nervous that Roh is taking my guy...

:(

Rohirrim
03-24-2011, 01:18 PM
F'ing trade makes me nervous that Roh is taking my guy...

:(

Jeremy Beal. He looked like a steal just sitting there. Had to pull the trigger. ;D

TheReverend
03-24-2011, 01:21 PM
Jeremy Beal. He looked like a steal just sitting there. Had to pull the trigger. ;D

Wow.

...definitely not my guy lol

^5

TheReverend
03-24-2011, 01:25 PM
I actually thought it was a mistake that DJ Williams was still on the board.

Negatives: A little short and probably not enough power to block in line at the NFL level

Positives: Literally everything else

Killericon
03-24-2011, 01:28 PM
I'm in the middle of a heavy week school-wise, but JCM, on top of running this damn thing, is saving my ass.

Thanks, JCM. You are awesome as hell.

Rashad Carmichael-CB-Virginia Tech: 5’10″


2010: Played in 13 games...started 12...40 total tackles (31 solo)...4 INTs, 11 passes defensed...2009: Played the second-most defensive plays on the team (737) during the regular season … Ranked fifth in tackles with 55, including four behind the line … Had six pass breakups and six QB hurries … Started on the extra point and field goal block teams and works with three other special team units …Led the team in interceptions with six and was named honorable mention on the All-ACC team … Voted the team’s top defensive back …2008: Was in on a tackle during his 11 special team plays against BC in the ACC title game … Picked up another tackle in the Orange Bowl and finished the season with 12 total …2007: Played in all 14 games, compiling eight total tackles, including one behind the line … Had one pass breakup …2006: Redshirted.

Strengths-Plays bigger than his height. Off-Man corner who keeps plays in front of him. Is a willing tackler. Rarely misses a coverage assignment. Long arms. Has a knack for stripping the football from receivers. Brings added value in the return game. Has good speed and rarely gets beaten deep. Shows a very good low pedal and the ability to transition with smooth hips. Shows good ability to plant and drive to the football out of his pedal. Shows good hands and ball skills. Displays good awareness and anticipation in zone coverages where he can read and react to the football. Shows willingness to work at his game.
Weaknesses-Doesn’t always take great angles in run support. Can be blocked too easily at times by bigger receivers downfield. Doesn’t show an extra gear to make up for lost ground. Will never have the ability to blow up ball carriers.
NFR Draft Analysis-Lost time in 2010 to nagging ankle sprain. Carmichael is pro ready as a nickel/slot corner. He may never be a number 1 or elite corner but should be able to play a long time in the league as a slot corner and transitioning to a #2 corner. We believe Carmichael is a prospect worthy of an early 3rd round grade in the 2011 NFL draft.
NFL Comparison-Terrence McGee


http://www.thenationalfootballreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/rashad-carmichael-p11.jpg

SouthStndJunkie
03-24-2011, 01:45 PM
Rev....nice pick of D.J. Williams.

I almost took him for the Browns in the 4th round....and would have snatched him with the quickness if he was there at the top of the 5th round.

TheReverend
03-24-2011, 03:36 PM
Rev....nice pick of D.J. Williams.

I almost took him for the Browns in the 4th round....and would have snatched him with the quickness if he was there at the top of the 5th round.

I have him at 72 overall O_o

NFLBRONCO
03-24-2011, 04:03 PM
I have him at 72 overall O_o

Solid work Rev

jebures
03-24-2011, 08:03 PM
I thought Beal and Ziemba were both very big reaches here. they were literally my 162 and 163 ranked players

D.J. Williams was an awesome pick, had him as my 72ranked player, I jumped on chekwa as he was my top player on my board as my 77th ranked player.

Every player I have taken

A.J. Green WR
Ryan Williams RB
Chris Carter OLB
Chimdi Chekwa CB

were the top player on my board, doing value over need this year.

JCMElway
03-24-2011, 09:24 PM
We're very please to get McPhee in the 4th. Reed will help bringthe pass rush, and McPhee will be a contributor on the D-Line with solid effort, especially against the run. And who knows, maybe he can get coached up and get a few sacks!

jebures
03-24-2011, 10:04 PM
We're very please to get McPhee in the 4th. Reed will help bringthe pass rush, and McPhee will be a contributor on the D-Line with solid effort, especially against the run. And who knows, maybe he can get coached up and get a few sacks!

solid pick

Kaylore
03-24-2011, 10:35 PM
solid pick

It's huge for us! We needed a DE and we just got a great solidly third round pick in the mid fourth. After trading back up we needed to get a good DE. We have now hit on all of San Fran's major needs with good value save our reach at QB, which wouldn't have been a reach had the Texans not gone full retard started a run on the QB position.

There were some other players we were looking at that we were surprised were still available. Curious to see how long they hang.

anton
03-24-2011, 11:01 PM
Id be really happy with Robert Quinn, Jabaal Sheard, and Nate Irving to start the Bucs real draft. Thats a huge infusion of defensive talent.

Other drafts I like:
-SD: Wilkerson, Harris, and especally Hankerson is a great start.
-STL: Julio is a no brainer. Hudson is rock solid. Nevis is very underrated and a great fit for Spagnuolo.
-NO:If healthy, Paea and Carter are huge upgrades. Rackley in the third is great.
-NE: Hard to screw up. But not sure where Austin fits on defense.

Best Values imo:
-Ryan Kerrigan at 30.
-Leonard Hankerson at 61.
-Drake Nevis at 69.
-Kendall Hunter at 85.

Worst values imo:
-Marvin Austin at 33.
-Allen Bailey at 38.
-Luke Stocker at 55.
-Colin McCarthy at 71.

There is one player who I am SHOCKED is not gone yet (wont say who untill he goes... (so its a HE!!!))

Kaylore
03-25-2011, 06:12 AM
There is one player who I am SHOCKED is not gone yet (wont say who untill he goes... (so its a HE!!!))

He's probably the other guy we almost took.

Mediator12
03-25-2011, 08:51 AM
I don't know about one player, but I literally have 4 top 75 players still on my board. Unfortunately, they are really not at positions of need except one. I hope Chris does not take him! Let's go Chris, take someone already so I can pick and have my Friday!

TheReverend
03-25-2011, 08:55 AM
I don't know about one player, but I literally have 4 top 75 players still on my board. Unfortunately, they are really not at positions of need except one. I hope Chris does not take him! Let's go Chris, take someone already so I can pick and have my Friday!

I only have one left :/

BowlenBall
03-25-2011, 08:57 AM
I don't know about one player, but I literally have 4 top 75 players still on my board. Unfortunately, they are really not at positions of need except one. I hope Chris does not take him! Let's go Chris, take someone already so I can pick and have my Friday!

Interesting.... I've only got 5 players in my top 100 left on the board, which is a bit unusual for this point of the OM Mock. I'm assuming it's because everyone else is getting better at this....;D

TheReverend
03-25-2011, 11:14 AM
Torman was a great pick, imo

meangene
03-25-2011, 11:27 AM
Yes, I really like the Todman pick also!

Mediator12
03-25-2011, 12:54 PM
Alright, just out of a meeting going to check a few Pm's and execute a trade or make a pick in about a half hour or so.

TheReverend
03-25-2011, 03:10 PM
Sooooooooooo... anyone else really surprised by how many LB'ers have been taken in such a ****ty LB draft class?

Also, Matt, you're slow as ****.

Drek
03-25-2011, 03:32 PM
Sooooooooooo... anyone else really surprised by how many LB'ers have been taken in such a ****ty LB draft class?

Also, Matt, you're slow as ****.

LB needy teams looking for a fit.

Its why I waited to the later rounds myself, even though LB is probably a bigger need for the Rams than OG and DT. But at some point its a need they have to address.

I really like Homan as a SOLB for the Rams personally, but I don't feel like I pulled a steal or anything and I don't think many, if any, of his peers in this class are significantly better. Its a style/attitude fit who is ok value at a need spot in the 4th round.

Of course that is made worse by the lack of FA. Typically by this time at least some of the really big needs of any team have been addressed in some fashion with FA. Now we're left trying to find some sort of amelioration for a very weak unit in a very bad pool. So its all about finding the least bitter pill.

It'll be interesting to see how much this effects the actual NFL draft this year.

Mediator12
03-25-2011, 04:47 PM
Sooooooooooo... anyone else really surprised by how many LB'ers have been taken in such a ****ty LB draft class?

Also, Matt, you're slow as ****.

Thanks man! It seems everytime I am waiting for my pick for hours, then I actually have to go have a life! I am on here all the time and it's just Murphy' Law ;D

As for the LB's, there are a few developmental guys and a lot of need with all the 3-4 teams. There is more demand than supply, and it has people reaching versus talent.

OBF1
03-25-2011, 06:20 PM
So much for the compensatory picks... Tennessee scored a freebie. Please adjust the rest accordingly please.... even Denver's 7th

jebures
03-25-2011, 06:29 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else not have Blake Gideon from Texas as a draftable prospect?

WABronco
03-25-2011, 07:37 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else not have Blake Gideon from Texas as a draftable prospect?

Blake Gideon is ready to begin his final season at Texas. Even though he has started all three years at UT, he realizes that everyone has to earn their job under the new staff.

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/sports/longhorns/kxan-Longhorn-players-talk-coaching-changes

Yep.

TheReverend
03-25-2011, 08:15 PM
Thanks man! It seems everytime I am waiting for my pick for hours, then I actually have to go have a life! I am on here all the time and it's just Murphy' Law ;D

As for the LB's, there are a few developmental guys and a lot of need with all the 3-4 teams. There is more demand than supply, and it has people reaching versus talent.

I think we're beyond "reach" at this point. We're about to see UDFA guys off the board.

TheReverend
03-25-2011, 08:18 PM
So much for the compensatory picks... Tennessee scored a freebie. Please adjust the rest accordingly please.... even Denver's 7th

One player. Big deal.

TheReverend
03-25-2011, 08:22 PM
Fantastic work jebures. That was the last guy out of my top 75 still on the board that I was talking about earlier.

BowlenBall
03-25-2011, 08:52 PM
Was it just me or did anyone else not have Blake Gideon from Texas as a draftable prospect?

I've got 909 players on my board.... and he wasn't one of them.

Still not as big of a reach as Jake Locker to the Texans, though.

JCMElway
03-25-2011, 09:04 PM
So much for the compensatory picks... Tennessee scored a freebie. Please adjust the rest accordingly please.... even Denver's 7th

That was the plan all along.

JCMElway
03-25-2011, 11:16 PM
3 33/97 Carolina
4 33/130 Tennessee
4 33/131 Green Bay
5 33/164 Baltimore
5 34/165 Baltimore
6 33/198 N.Y. Giants
6 34/199 Kansas City
6 35/200 Minnesota
6 36/201 San Diego
6 37/202 N.Y. Giants
6 38/203 Carolina
7 33/233 San Diego
7 34/234 Miami
7 35/235 Minnesota
7 36/236 Philadelphia
7 37/237 Tampa Bay
7 38/238 San Francisco
7 39/239 Philadelphia
7 40/240 Oakland
7 41/241 Seattle
7 42/242 New Orleans
7 43/243 Carolina
7 44/244 Buffalo
7 45/245 Cincinnati
7 46/246 Denver
7 47/247 Cleveland
7 48/248 Arizona
7 49/249 San Francisco
7 50/250 Tennessee
7 51/251 Dallas
7 52/252 Washington
7 53/253 Houston

JCMElway
03-25-2011, 11:27 PM
So our only fall out from moving on is that tennessee gained a third instead of a fourth. Not bad considering we were able to get 3/4 of a round in the process. Good times.

JCMElway
03-25-2011, 11:29 PM
So wait....is Gideon playing one more season at Texas? If he is, than that pick can be retracted and another one made....

BowlenBall
03-25-2011, 11:30 PM
You could dock Tennessee their 7th round comp pick to make up for it....:devil:

JCMElway
03-25-2011, 11:34 PM
You could dock Tennessee their 7th round comp pick to make up for it....:devil:

You pot stirrer......

eddie mac
03-26-2011, 03:38 AM
I cant believe the Pats never got any comp picks, that must be a first.

meangene
03-26-2011, 04:10 AM
I was going back to edit my post to put the selection time in, but, Eddie Mac was all over it with his pick already in. Ha!

eddie mac
03-26-2011, 04:12 AM
I was going back to edit my post to put the selection time in, but, Eddie Mac was all over it with his pick already in. Ha!

Couldn't believe the value, that's why I made the selection so quickly, I was considering the guy you took as well so you helped me make the decision, good pick on Wright.

meangene
03-26-2011, 04:26 AM
Couldn't believe the value, that's why I made the selection so quickly, I was considering the guy you took as well so you helped me make the decision, good pick on Wright.

Yeah, if I had any need for a WR, I may have gone that route. Gates is definitely a player on the rise. As it was, Wright was not a huge need but the highest rated guy on my board at a position of some need.

JCMElway
03-26-2011, 08:03 AM
Four picks and three drafters away from the end of the 4th round. Great work, gentlemen......

Mediator12
03-26-2011, 10:31 AM
Fantastic work jebures. That was the last guy out of my top 75 still on the board that I was talking about earlier.

I agree on Brewer, he was one of my four. I would have gladly taken him if Carpenter and Boling were off the board. Nice Value pick Jebures ;D

Mediator12
03-26-2011, 10:34 AM
So our only fall out from moving on is that tennessee gained a third instead of a fourth. Not bad considering we were able to get 3/4 of a round in the process. Good times.

Yeah, he got Green early, but that is totally OK by me. He just switches the third for the fourth comp pick right?

Requiem
03-26-2011, 11:33 AM
Beal has had tremendous production in college, but he isn't an overly athletic player. SD needs another OLB, but I just didn't think he was worth it where I was able to get Sands.

jebures
03-26-2011, 12:07 PM
I agree on Brewer, he was one of my four. I would have gladly taken him if Carpenter and Boling were off the board. Nice Value pick Jebures ;D

I have been taking the approach of taking the best fit for my team out of the top 5 players left on my board this draft, it has gone well.

Archer81
03-27-2011, 12:20 AM
I just realized I have 9 picks in rounds 5 through 7.

Jesus.

:Broncos:

Requiem
03-27-2011, 03:25 AM
Great selection, Chris.

Mediator12
03-27-2011, 07:05 AM
Kendric Burney to GB is a puzzling pick. The slowest CB in the draft who also struggles with man coverage goes to a predominantly man press defense. Really do not get that pick other than srphoenix being on the road!

Mediator12
03-27-2011, 07:08 AM
Herzlich to PHI is a great pick there. I think the kid will recover and can play all 3 LB spots for them. He is simply not fast enough sideline to sideline for INDY or I would have taken him much earlier despite the medical issues. PHI also needs a steady LB to pair with the oft injured Stewart Bradley. Their LB's have killed that defense the last 3-4 years with injuries and inconsistentcy.

BowlenBall
03-27-2011, 07:41 AM
Kendric Burney to GB is a puzzling pick. The slowest CB in the draft who also struggles with man coverage goes to a predominantly man press defense. Really do not get that pick other than srphoenix being on the road!

I really struggled with Burney for the same reasons -- Steelers desperately need some CB help, but didn't think he was a great fit, especially with that horrible 40 time at the combine.

That being said -- Burney's got that "IT" factor, and I think he'll find a way to make the roster and contribute, no matter what the scheme. He's Syd'quan, version 2.0....

BowlenBall
03-27-2011, 07:42 AM
Herzlich to PHI is a great pick there. I think the kid will recover and can play all 3 LB spots for them. He is simply not fast enough sideline to sideline for INDY or I would have taken him much earlier despite the medical issues. PHI also needs a steady LB to pair with the oft injured Stewart Bradley. Their LB's have killed that defense the last 3-4 years with injuries and inconsistentcy.

Ditto on Herzlich -- the kid's not all the way back from his medical issues yet, but he's a football ninja.

Archer81
03-27-2011, 10:36 AM
Great selection, Chris.


I try.

:Broncos:

srphoenix
03-27-2011, 12:05 PM
Kendric Burney to GB is a puzzling pick. The slowest CB in the draft who also struggles with man coverage goes to a predominantly man press defense. Really do not get that pick other than srphoenix being on the road!

Lol, you nailed it, I did some quick research, knew I wanted a cb and saw he was projected 3rd round in a few different mocks so I pulled the trigger on it. After the first 2 rounds I think were all mostly just evaluating based on what online draft gurus say. Barksdale was a find hopefully, he was also projected mid to early 3rd round.

JCMElway
03-27-2011, 12:29 PM
Just a reminder all, PLEASE check the alphabetical list (on the first page of this thread) before you make your selections. There's a lot of names out there now and it's easy to miss one!

TheReverend
03-27-2011, 12:41 PM
Though Romeus was a peculiar pick by Cinci.

They're extremely stacked AND deep at DE with Odom, Dunlap, Johnson, Geathers

jebures
03-27-2011, 12:49 PM
Though Romeus was a peculiar pick by Cinci.

They're extremely stacked AND deep at DE with Odom, Dunlap, Johnson, Geathers

Romeus is recovering from a knee injury and may not be ready to play this year anyways, so let him sit on IR. Who knows who is a FA after next year with odom and geathers.

I see no problem with this pick, romeus was a stud when healthy

BowlenBall
03-27-2011, 12:52 PM
The 5th round is where everyone starts to jump on their sleepers....

I know I've got mine coming up....

Arkie
03-27-2011, 01:01 PM
Though Romeus was a peculiar pick by Cinci.

They're extremely stacked AND deep at DE with Odom, Dunlap, Johnson, Geathers

Cincinnati needs a pass rush. They were almost last in sacks. (Denver was last) Romeus is also a good value this late. I'm taking BPA at about 7 positions because Cincy has a lot of needs.

TheReverend
03-27-2011, 03:00 PM
Cincinnati needs a pass rush. They were almost last in sacks. (Denver was last) Romeus is also a good value this late. I'm taking BPA at about 7 positions because Cincy has a lot of needs.

O_o

Odom was leading the league in sacks the last time he was healthy and Dunlap had 9.5 in 12 games as a rotational player...

TheReverend
03-27-2011, 03:15 PM
C'mon Chris. I wanna make my pickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Mediator12
03-27-2011, 06:30 PM
I think Shareece Wright is a quality CB, When healthy. Colts have plenty of good injured CB's including USC CB Kevin Thomas who promptly tore his ACL in his second official workout last year. No more Damaged USC CB's for me ;D

Arkie
03-27-2011, 07:14 PM
O_o

Odom was leading the league in sacks the last time he was healthy and Dunlap had 9.5 in 12 games as a rotational player...

I doubt there's a team with fewer sacks than Cincinnati over the last 4 years.

SouthStndJunkie
03-27-2011, 08:01 PM
Tight end is not a big need for the Browns, but Lance Kendricks was too talented to pass up on in the 5th round.

jebures
03-27-2011, 08:14 PM
Tight end is not a big need for the Browns, but Lance Kendricks was too talented to pass up on in the 5th round.

I thought about trading up for him, he was my top guy left on my board by far

Mediator12
03-27-2011, 09:09 PM
Kendricks was another top 75 guy down. One more left. Doubt I get him though ;D

Colts have three quality TE's and its not a need.

24champ
03-28-2011, 12:39 AM
see-OWN-ay foo-AH!!!!!!!!!!!!



http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Sione+Fua+USC+v+Stanford+WpYEPkev3iel.jpg

JCMElway
03-28-2011, 08:09 AM
Good pick 24. We're going into BPA mode and Fua, P Allen, and Romeus were targets for us. Well done!

Archer81
03-28-2011, 11:01 AM
Panthers draft thus far...

2-2(34) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Phil Talor, DT/NT, Baylor
2-23(55) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee
3 -1(65) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Kendrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
3-4(68) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Andy Dalton, QB, TCU
3-22(86) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Sam Acho, DE/LB, Texas
3-33(97) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Buster Skrine, CB/KR, Tenn-Chattanooga
4-1(99) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Greg Salas, WR Hawaii
4-21(119) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Jordan Todman, RB, Connecticut
5-1(132) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Chris Rucker, CB, Michigan State
5-4(135) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81) (from Tampa) : Pierre Allen, DE, Nebraska

:Broncos:

Mediator12
03-28-2011, 11:15 AM
Panthers draft thus far...

2-2(34) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Phil Talor, DT/NT, Baylor
2-23(55) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee
3 -1(65) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Kendrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
3-4(68) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Andy Dalton, QB, TCU
3-22(86) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Sam Acho, DE/LB, Texas
3-33(97) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Buster Skrine, CB/KR, Tenn-Chattanooga
4-1(99) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Greg Salas, WR Hawaii
4-21(119) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Jordan Todman, RB, Connecticut
5-1(132) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Chris Rucker, CB, Michigan State
5-4(135) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81) (from Tampa) : Pierre Allen, DE, Nebraska

:Broncos:

That is a nice list of players Chris, however Carmelo should at least take half credit for selling out his whole draft ;D

Having that many picks really allows you to go BPA from here on out. I do wonder how you are going to pay all those guys within the new CBA when it comes out, but hey this is just for fun right!

Archer81
03-28-2011, 11:20 AM
That is a nice list of players Chris, however Carmelo should at least take half credit for selling out his whole draft ;D

Having that many picks really allows you to go BPA from here on out. I do wonder how you are going to pay all those guys within the new CBA when it comes out, but hey this is just for fun right!


I have 6 more picks to go. Pure insanity. Carolina has multiple holes. While it would be nice if all they needed was a few high impact players, reality screamed differently.

And this is fun as hell.

:Broncos:

BowlenBall
03-28-2011, 11:23 AM
I have 6 more picks to go. Pure insanity. Carolina has multiple holes. While it would be nice if all they needed was a few high impact players, reality screamed differently.

And this is fun as hell.

:Broncos:

Imagine if the Broncos could do something similar with the 2nd pick in the draft (i.e., flip it for a bajillion later picks)... how cool would that be?

Mediator12
03-28-2011, 11:30 AM
Imagine if the Broncos could do something similar with the 2nd pick in the draft (i.e., flip it for a bajillion later picks)... how cool would that be?

In this draft, it would be extremely helpful and allow them to go get players they want. There are always some solid values later in the draft, but this draft has talent on both lines and in a few places where DEN could get some players to start over on Defense.

Archer81
03-28-2011, 11:45 AM
Imagine if the Broncos could do something similar with the 2nd pick in the draft (i.e., flip it for a bajillion later picks)... how cool would that be?


That would be pretty awesome. Options = flexibility, and more picks gives you that ability.

:Broncos:

BowlenBall
03-28-2011, 12:36 PM
Sodak Bronco has missed his pick, and may select at any time.

The Carolina Panthers and sirhcyennek81 are on the clock.

SoDak Bronco
03-28-2011, 07:54 PM
pick is coming..sorry for the delay

TheReverend
03-28-2011, 08:16 PM
Kinda funny postin a pic of the guy you selected standing over a guy taunting him after he caught a TD against him

1. Incorrect. Wasn't a catch.

2. Keep comments out of the selection thread please. Not sure how many years that has to get brought up for people to ****ing catch on.

oubronco
03-28-2011, 08:55 PM
1. Incorrect. Wasn't a catch.

2. Keep comments out of the selection thread please. Not sure how many years that has to get brought up for people to ****ing catch on.

Sorry pissy pants i've never heard it

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 07:52 AM
No problem OU, we just keep all our discussion in this forum so the selection thread is easy to follow. Thanks for watching the draft.

As Old Dude said, it's all about the ratings.......

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 07:53 AM
And many thanks go out to Expatfan and Eddie mac. They've been doing a fantastic job of posting picks on the alpha list and the selection thread. Great work!

BowlenBall
03-29-2011, 08:10 AM
And many thanks go out to Expatfan and Eddie mac. They've been doing a fantastic job of posting picks on the alpha list and the selection thread. Great work!

What is this, the academy awards?

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 08:18 AM
I haven't won any awards on the OM yet. Ha. Oh, wait, yes I did! I won the last Survivor on the Mane!

HA! SUCK IT, B****ES!

meangene
03-29-2011, 03:36 PM
ZZZ... Wake me when there is a pick...

jebures
03-29-2011, 03:45 PM
solid pick by dreak with niles paul, top player left on my board.

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 04:00 PM
On April 7th at 10 AM EST we will go to a 6 hour clock.

That is all.

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 04:02 PM
We were doin' pretty good until NFLB hasn't been around.

jebures
03-29-2011, 04:53 PM
We were doin' pretty good until NFLB hasn't been around.


is zona going to make another pick for blake gideon?

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 05:04 PM
is zona going to make another pick for blake gideon?

Dunno. I PMed him

brncs_fan
03-29-2011, 06:19 PM
Still a whole round until I get to pick again. :(

meangene
03-29-2011, 06:22 PM
NFLB is online. Maybe we'll get a pick soon!

NFLBRONCO
03-29-2011, 06:24 PM
Help pick a player for me I don't want to hold up draft. I went OT RB CB so far.

I'm looking for a new co GM but, none have responded yet

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 06:27 PM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Rankings.php

Decent site with breakdowns at every position. Not too hard to find a guy.

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 06:54 PM
I just had a confusion with Jordan Cameron and Cameron Jordan!

meangene
03-29-2011, 07:11 PM
I just had a confusion with Jordan Cameron and Cameron Jordan!

How many times does that happen in a draft - same name reversed?!

24champ
03-29-2011, 10:02 PM
Guy was already picked...

jebures
03-29-2011, 10:04 PM
Guy was already picked...

seconded

BowlenBall
03-29-2011, 10:08 PM
Hey -- keep your hands off my Guy!

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 10:10 PM
It is my fault gowyo, Guy was not on the alpha list. Sorry guy!

JCMElway
03-29-2011, 10:12 PM
We'll give Gowyo until 10:30 AM EST to select again because of my miss on the alpha list. PMing him now.....

GoHAM
03-30-2011, 08:19 AM
Dammit!!!

And now I'm that guy that double picked.

Sorry guys.

Replacement guy selected.

BowlenBall
03-30-2011, 08:21 AM
No worries... like JCMElway siad, his name was missing from the alpha list, so it's pretty understandable....

Mediator12
03-30-2011, 11:23 AM
So, when is Sodak off the clock? I have to drive tonight out of town and I want to pick before I leave at 5:30 eastern.

BroncoMan4ever
03-30-2011, 12:07 PM
Dammit!!!

And now I'm that guy that double picked.

Sorry guys.

Replacement guy selected.

i was that guy last year. i was stoned and missed that a guy was picked top 10 and picked him either late in the 1st round or early in the 2nd thinking i got an incredible value

Killericon
03-30-2011, 12:09 PM
Slooooooooow.

BowlenBall
03-30-2011, 12:18 PM
i was that guy last year. i was stoned and missed that a guy was picked top 10 and picked him either late in the 1st round or early in the 2nd thinking i got an incredible value

I was going to pick Lawrence Guy, but then I got high.

I was going to draft a defensive stud, but then I got high.

Now I'm stuck with Kerley, and I know why, hey-ay

Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high....

La di dat da da da....

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meangene
03-30-2011, 01:54 PM
So, when is Sodak off the clock? I have to drive tonight out of town and I want to pick before I leave at 5:30 eastern.

Don't hold your breath on that one! :rofl:

GoHAM
03-30-2011, 04:11 PM
I was going to pick Lawrence Guy, but then I got high.

I was going to draft a defensive stud, but then I got high.

Now I'm stuck with Kerley, and I know why, hey-ay

Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high....

La di dat da da da....

That is pretty funny! That deserves an :afro:man!

Sadly I wasn't even high, just a little tired. I did think I got pretty good value picking Guy in the 5th round. Oh well, I was targeting Kerley with my next pick anyway.

JCMElway
03-30-2011, 08:05 PM
Randomtask and Schaaf went OTC at 9:20 AM EST. Sodak's time has expired, and he needs to get his a** in here.

'nufff said.

BowlenBall
03-30-2011, 08:55 PM
One player selected in the last 26 hours?

Seriously?

Mediator12
03-30-2011, 09:16 PM
One player selected in the last 26 hours?

Seriously?

Now we are up to three in 28 hours ;D

I am stunned Jarrett was still there. Highest player by far on my draft board and the one guy in my top 75 still left.

BowlenBall
03-30-2011, 09:21 PM
Now we are up to three in 28 hours ;D

I am stunned Jarrett was still there. Highest player by far on my draft board and the one guy in my top 75 still left.

I had to choose between Jarrett and Deunta Williams... now I'm wondering if I screwed that pick up....

Mediator12
03-30-2011, 10:20 PM
I like Richard Sherman in the fifth. Nice pick Sodak, just do it on time next time ;D

SoDak Bronco
03-30-2011, 10:30 PM
Sorry Homeslice, my new job has me traveling a bunch so I get on when I can, and I pick as fast as possible. i liked your pick before mine too.

Mediator12
03-30-2011, 10:34 PM
I had to choose between Jarrett and Deunta Williams... now I'm wondering if I screwed that pick up....

Totally different players. Colts can not afford to draft any more injured or injury risk secondary players. They need durable, solid, mentally skilled, four year players. They lost 9 DB's last year to injury. Some should be back, but a lot will be let go on durability issues like they already jettisoned Sanders.

Williams has all the tools physically, but I did not get a sense of mental and technical ability watching him play. He looked a step slow with his keys and then hesitant in play recognition playing the deep cover. Only time will tell though if he catches on.

Jarrett is a steady eddie. Very consistent and capable of executing his assignments every play, whether in the pass or run game. He reads the game really well and tackles very well. Grew every year on tape. That is the exact type of player I want on defense. And, he was a ST's standout and can contribute there immediately as a fifth rounder.

His physical numbers will not wow anyone, and he may not be a gamechanger, but neither was Antoine Bethea coming out as a 6th rounder for INDY. Over time, he developed into a probowl level Safety by being extremely consistent and executing in both phases of the game.

One thing is for sure, we will not know about either guy for a few more years!

Kaylore
03-31-2011, 07:57 AM
Damn you Med! I knew it was too much to hope Jarrett would get past you. We had him as a fourth round guy. I bet that's where he goes...

Mediator12
03-31-2011, 08:36 AM
Damn you Med! I knew it was too much to hope Jarrett would get past you. We had him as a fourth round guy. I bet that's where he goes...

It's a poor safety class, much worse than Linebacker, and teams reach for need in poor classes. I would be stunned if he made it out of the third personally. I had other needs to fill, but he was so much more highly rated than those that I had to jump. Plus, he can be a Special teams guy right away and that was the icing on the cake. Indy's ST's need better players very badly.

SouthStndJunkie
03-31-2011, 09:55 AM
Nice value with the Jaiquawn Jarrett selection.

I almost took him for the Browns at the top of the round, but couldn't pass up Lance Kendricks.

BowlenBall
03-31-2011, 10:28 AM
Sorry Homeslice, my new job has me traveling a bunch so I get on when I can, and I pick as fast as possible. i liked your pick before mine too.

Richard Sherman was my super sleeper pick this year.... was assuming he'd be there with my 6th round pick.

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Nice pick.

Mediator12
03-31-2011, 11:55 AM
Richard Sherman was my super sleeper pick this year.... was assuming he'd be there with my 6th round pick.

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Nice pick.

Tell us how you really feel expat ;D At least I was not the one who took your guy this time!

I like Sherman too, but I think I got a better version of him in Curtis Marsh. Both are offensive skill guy conversions who only lack experience and some technical work to be solid players at their new positions.

Killericon
03-31-2011, 12:09 PM
Thoughts on Andrew Jackson?

BowlenBall
03-31-2011, 12:10 PM
Tell us how you really feel expat ;D At least I was not the one who took your guy this time!

I like Sherman too, but I think I got a better version of him in Curtis Marsh. Both are offensive skill guy conversions who only lack experience and some technical work to be solid players at their new positions.

Similar players, but I think that Sherman's ceiling is much, much higher. I'm even wondering why he switched from WR to CB, as he was very successful at that position as a freshman/sophomore (led the team in receiving yards both years). Add that to a great combine performance, and I think you have a very underrated player. Hope the Broncos target him!

BowlenBall
03-31-2011, 12:12 PM
Thoughts on Andrew Jackson?

A good, but not great, president.

http://www.millionface.com/l/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/currency_notes/Andrew_Jackson_on_dollar_20_note.jpg

24champ
03-31-2011, 12:34 PM
FYI guys, there's a lot of talk of Jake Locker going at #10 and possibly earlier. :P

BowlenBall
03-31-2011, 12:44 PM
FYI guys, there's a lot of talk of Jake Locker going at #10 and possibly earlier. :P

Yeah, but not to the Houston Texans!

Mediator12
03-31-2011, 12:49 PM
FYI guys, there's a lot of talk of Jake Locker going at #10 and possibly earlier. :P

Sure there is, because teams never use misinformation around this time of year ;D Oh yeah, DEN is also considering a QB at #2 :thumbsup:

Never had a problem with Locker being taken there, just trying to replace a proven top QB in HOU with a project first round player. Especially, when they have glaring holes all over their defense.

24champ
03-31-2011, 03:40 PM
Sure there is, because teams never use misinformation around this time of year ;D Oh yeah, DEN is also considering a QB at #2 :thumbsup:

Never had a problem with Locker being taken there, just trying to replace a proven top QB in HOU with a project first round player. Especially, when they have glaring holes all over their defense.


I've already explained why I took him earlier in the thread, but I find it interesting that Locker is supposedly rising up the board. Either way, I think he will be the second QB off the board behind Gabbert.

24champ
03-31-2011, 03:46 PM
Yeah, but not to the Houston Texans!

I heard otherwise on the lightrail in Houston....

But seriously, he won't be taken by Houston, but you have to admit he would be an interesting prospect under Kubes.

eddie mac
03-31-2011, 06:13 PM
More than happy to have added 3 offensive linemen to a Pats line who could lose 3 more players in addition to the retired Stephen Neal. Hairston will get a shot to battle Volmer for the LT spot (if Light departs), Watkins immediately slides into RT then and Gilbert will kick inside to OG to battle Connolly. I wanted to land Wisniewski in this draft to replace Koppen in 2012 but you cant replace an entire line in one draft.

SoDak Bronco
03-31-2011, 08:42 PM
Richard Sherman was my super sleeper pick this year.... was assuming he'd be there with my 6th round pick.

Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you, Hate you!

Nice pick.

hahaha glad that I ruined your draft board. I think Sherman is a solid player, i think he'll make the roster.

JCMElway
03-31-2011, 10:17 PM
Ten picks in today. Great work!

SouthStndJunkie
04-01-2011, 09:34 AM
Nice pick of Noel Devine....he was on my short list for the Browns with one of their 2 6th round picks.

srphoenix
04-01-2011, 10:24 AM
thanks southstand, Brandon Jackson just hasn't been cutting it as a 3rd down back and the Packers could use some more speed on the offense

Mediator12
04-01-2011, 07:15 PM
10 picks yesterday and a guy with double picks who was here yesterday misses both picks all day. Priceless ;D

meangene
04-01-2011, 08:08 PM
10 picks yesterday and a guy with double picks who was here yesterday misses both picks all day. Priceless ;D

Guess he's using his full 24....???

BowlenBall
04-01-2011, 09:01 PM
I don't think it makes any sense for iforgotmypassword to get 24 hours on the clock, so I'm gonna make a vice-commissioner decision and say....

iforgotmypassword has missed his turns, and may make his two selections at any time.

sirhcyennek81 is now on the clock....

JCMElway
04-01-2011, 09:03 PM
I just got on and I second that. Sirhcy81 went OTC at 9 PM EST.

eddie mac
04-02-2011, 02:12 AM
I don't think it makes any sense for iforgotmypassword to get 24 hours on the clock, so I'm gonna make a vice-commissioner decision and say....

iforgotmypassword has missed his turns, and may make his two selections at any time.

sirhcyennek81 is now on the clock....

Maybe we can change his username to iforgotmypicks.LOL

JCMElway
04-02-2011, 02:44 PM
OK, very nice to be back on track. Maybe we could finish this thing before we go to a 6 hour clock! That being said, this is going very smoothly with no major gaps in picks. Good times!

iforgotmypassword
04-02-2011, 02:45 PM
booo 24 hours was legit. got the picks in. sorry board my bad. got the two guys I wanted.

TheReverend
04-02-2011, 07:37 PM
Niles Paul and Conte were great pics. Nicely done Drek and GoWYO

TheReverend
04-02-2011, 07:44 PM
Anyone wanna talk about Royster?

Obviously I homer out on him because he's a PSU guy, BUT he entered the 2010 season as the top RB prospect, had a good season, and ran well enough at his pro day and somehow he went from #1 to around #20 at his position.

Over-scouting victim.

SoDak Bronco
04-03-2011, 07:37 AM
Vikings get a solid back in the 6th round, a better change of pace back then Toby G., and if AP were to ever get hurt Locke is going to have a chance to make some plays.

JCMElway
04-03-2011, 10:04 AM
81 picks left to go!

Interesting run on running backs at the end of the fifth and into the sixth round. I wonder if that's how it'll fall out in the real draft......

BowlenBall
04-03-2011, 10:11 AM
81 picks left to go!

Interesting run on running backs at the end of the fifth and into the sixth round. I wonder if that's how it'll fall out in the real draft......

I was just thinking about that running back run myself.... glad I started it!

5-31(162) - Pittsburgh (ExpatFan): Taiwan Jones, RB/KR, Eastern Washington
5-32(163) - Green Bay (srphoenix): Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia
5-33(164) - Baltimore (iforgotmypassword): Alex Henery, K, Nebraska
5-34(165) - Baltimore (iforgotmypassword): Ricky Elmore, DE, Arizona
6-1(166) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Willie Smith, OT, East Carolina
6-2(167) - Cincinnati (Arkie): Brandon Fusco, C, Slippery Rock
6-3(168) - Cleveland (from Denver) (SouthStndJunkie): Dion Lewis, RB, Pittsburgh
6-4(169) - Miami (NFLBRONCO/Crushisback): Delone Carter, RB, Syracuse
6-5(170) - Cleveland (SouthStndJunkie): Will Hill, S, Florida
6-6(171) - Arizona (TheReverend): Evan Royster, RB, Penn State
6-7(172) - Minnesota (Sodak): Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky

I think it'll start slightly earlier in the real draft... getting a player like Delone Carter in the 6th rounds is nuts!

jebures
04-03-2011, 10:26 AM
best value there is deleon carter


I was just thinking about that running back run myself.... glad I started it!

5-31(162) - Pittsburgh (ExpatFan): Taiwan Jones, RB/KR, Eastern Washington
5-32(163) - Green Bay (srphoenix): Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia
5-33(164) - Baltimore (iforgotmypassword): Alex Henery, K, Nebraska
5-34(165) - Baltimore (iforgotmypassword): Ricky Elmore, DE, Arizona
6-1(166) - Carolina (sirhcyennek81): Willie Smith, OT, East Carolina
6-2(167) - Cincinnati (Arkie): Brandon Fusco, C, Slippery Rock
6-3(168) - Cleveland (from Denver) (SouthStndJunkie): Dion Lewis, RB, Pittsburgh
6-4(169) - Miami (NFLBRONCO/Crushisback): Delone Carter, RB, Syracuse
6-5(170) - Cleveland (SouthStndJunkie): Will Hill, S, Florida
6-6(171) - Arizona (TheReverend): Evan Royster, RB, Penn State
6-7(172) - Minnesota (Sodak): Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky

I think it'll start slightly earlier in the real draft... getting a player like Delone Carter in the 6th rounds is nuts!

Mediator12
04-03-2011, 12:07 PM
Hey, I realize that the NFL draft this year will not have the UDFA's signed the days after the real draft ends. However, they will be signed before the next training camp if there is a CBA by that time.

My question is do we as a Group still want to do an UDFA round after the draft anyway? I love that round, and would like to do it if we get a concensus.

Mediator12
04-03-2011, 12:22 PM
Let's go WABronco, I see you ready to make your pick!

Mediator12
04-03-2011, 12:43 PM
Wow, I have been very fortunate in this draft. McClain was the last top 100 player I had left on my board. Granted he was #100, but that still counts right ;D

I can simply draft BPA right now and that feels good with 2 picks left.

meangene
04-03-2011, 01:08 PM
McClain was the highest player left on my board. I almost went with him over Williams in Round 5 but thought Williams was the better fit as a 3-4 NT. Plus, I'm a bit of a Notre Dame homer.

Mediator12
04-03-2011, 01:18 PM
McClain was the highest player left on my board. I almost went with him over Williams in Round 5 but thought Williams was the better fit as a 3-4 NT. Plus, I'm a bit of a Notre Dame homer.

Williams is definitely a better 3-4 NT prospect than McClain, but not a better 4-3 NT prospect. McClain can be a run stuffer or he can penetrate gaps. He has a solid all around game and can rush the passer from the NT position as a 4-3 NT. His skillset and strengths are made for the Colts 4-3 front.

However, I think Williams will be a much better 2 Gap player than a 4-3 one gap player. In the end, we both got players who fit the teams scheme and should be able to contribute quickly in a rotation.

meangene
04-03-2011, 01:40 PM
Williams is definitely a better 3-4 NT prospect than McClain, but not a better 4-3 NT prospect. McClain can be a run stuffer or he can penetrate gaps. He has a solid all around game and can rush the passer from the NT position as a 4-3 NT. His skillset and strengths are made for the Colts 4-3 front.

However, I think Williams will be a much better 2 Gap player than a 4-3 one gap player. In the end, we both got players who fit the teams scheme and should be able to contribute quickly in a rotation.

I think so. I was looking at McClain as more of a 3-4 DE rotation player with the capability of playing NT in a pinch. I read somewhere that a couple teams (NE being one) were looking at him as a NT but I agree with you that he is a better fit as a 4-3 DT.

BowlenBall
04-03-2011, 08:48 PM
Hey, I realize that the NFL draft this year will not have the UDFA's signed the days after the real draft ends. However, they will be signed before the next training camp if there is a CBA by that time.

My question is do we as a Group still want to do an UDFA round after the draft anyway? I love that round, and would like to do it if we get a concensus.

Oh, we're definitely doing the UDFA round, my friend!

OBF1
04-04-2011, 12:27 PM
Stevan Ridley, RB LSU

5'-11" 225lbs 4.60 40 21 reps @ 225lbs

JUNIOR SEASON (2010)
Had his best season at LSU, rushing for 1,147 yards and 15 touchdowns in what was his first full season as the Tigers' primary running back ... Earned first-team All-SEC honors from the league's coaches and second-team all-conference recognition from the Associated Press ... Became the 13th 1,000-yard rusher in a season for LSU in 2010 ... The 1,147 yards rank as seventh-highest season total in school history, while his 15 rushing TDs tie Kevin Faulk (1997) as the fourth-best mark for a season in LSU history ... Ranked fourth in the SEC in rushing yards and yards per game (88.2) ... Tied for second in the league with 249 carries, which is the fifth-highest total in school history ... Scored at least one rushing TD in 10 of LSU's 13 games, including a career-best three in win over Ole Miss ... Had two rushing TDs against McNeese State, UL-Monroe and Arkansas ... Had a total of eight rushing touchdowns in LSU's last four games ... Cracked the 100-yard mark four times in 2010, including a career-best 159 yards and one TD in win over Vanderbilt ... Scored on a 65-yard run against Vanderbilt, the longest carry of his career ... Added 100-yard games vs. West Virginia (116 yards, 1 TD), vs. Tennessee (123 yards, 1 TD), and Texas A&M (105 yards, 1 TD) in the Cotton Bowl ... Named the SEC Offensive Player of the Week against Tennessee as he scored the game-winning TD with no time left on the clock on a 1-yard run in the 16-14 win over the Vols ... Also scored the game-winning TD on a 7-yard run with 44 seconds left in a 43-36 victory over Ole Miss ... Finished Ole Miss game with 89 yards on the ground ... Capped his junior season with 105 yards and one TD in 41-24 Cotton Bowl victory over a Texas A&M that led the Big 12 and ranked No. 15 in the nation in rushing defense.

Draft scout snapshot: DS rating on 01/13/11 #8 Jr RB prospect, projected 3-4 round


Simply put Denver steals Stevan Ridley in the 6th round. Not the fasted RB, but gets the job done. A great compliment to Knowshon Moreno.

jebures
04-04-2011, 03:46 PM
really wanted Rob Housler there, could not believe he lasted that long and thought I was going to get a steal, but I settled for Mario Harvey who at 257lbs ran a 4.4 forty at his pro day.

brncs_fan
04-04-2011, 05:50 PM
I see you lurking Rev...

Hurry up and pick!

TheReverend
04-04-2011, 05:55 PM
There were 2 guys I REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY wanted with that pick, but I'm happy I got both of my favorite sleepers in the sixth.

Hoping the last guy I really want manages to slide to my end of the draft comp pick, but I reallllllllllllllly f'ing doubt it.

TheReverend
04-04-2011, 05:55 PM
I see you lurking Rev...

Hurry up and pick!

Lol... yeah all 40 minutes on the clock took forever :P

Tough decision for me for sure.

brncs_fan
04-04-2011, 06:04 PM
Lol... yeah all 40 minutes on the clock took forever :P

Tough decision for me for sure.

Was hoping to get it in before tomorrow and thanks to you and Expat for having no life I was able to get it done.

BowlenBall
04-04-2011, 06:07 PM
Was hoping to get it in before tomorrow and thanks to you and Expat for having no life I was able to get it done.

No life? THE OM MOCK DRAFT IS MY LIFE!

brncs_fan
04-04-2011, 06:12 PM
No life? THE OM MOCK DRAFT IS MY LIFE!

:militia:

TheReverend
04-04-2011, 06:19 PM
So about Cedric.

Coming from DII he's obviously very raw, but he's got a fantastic skill set, level of athleticism, and check out his frame... he carries his weight (310 lbs) VERY well.

In fact, in this situation, I'd want him to slim down. Kid can penetrate against top talent and he showed that at the senior bowl. He'll provide depth and is in an ideal situation to learn behind the BEST pair of 5 tech DEs in the NFL in Dockett and Campbell.

Couple that with Dan Williams progression into a dominant NT, Von Miller and Daryl Washington making impact at the LB spots, the best safety tandem in the NFL, and DRC, and this defensive unit just got effing scary with or without FA.

jebures
04-04-2011, 07:09 PM
No life? THE OM MOCK DRAFT IS MY LIFE!

it is sad but i lay in bed at night and think about my draft options, this is a great time of year!

OBF1
04-05-2011, 01:43 PM
Denver is ready to make its pick... What time does the current clock expire???

Mediator12
04-05-2011, 02:58 PM
So about Cedric.

Coming from DII he's obviously very raw, but he's got a fantastic skill set, level of athleticism, and check out his frame... he carries his weight (310 lbs) VERY well.

In fact, in this situation, I'd want him to slim down. Kid can penetrate against top talent and he showed that at the senior bowl. He'll provide depth and is in an ideal situation to learn behind the BEST pair of 5 tech DEs in the NFL in Dockett and Campbell.

Couple that with Dan Williams progression into a dominant NT, Von Miller and Daryl Washington making impact at the LB spots, the best safety tandem in the NFL, and DRC, and this defensive unit just got effing scary with or without FA.

Cedric and Martin Parker are real solid DT's getting dropped way down with all the top talent at the top of the draft. Normally, guys who could be late 3rd or fourth round grades IMHO. I would have taken one of them if McClain was not still sitting there at the top of the 6th round.

ARI should be talent laden on defense this year, now let's see them get nasty!

OBF1
04-05-2011, 03:10 PM
Vincent Brown

His numbers for 2010 are as follows 69 rec 1352 yards 19.6 ave 90 long 10 td's on the way to being named all Mountain West Conference.

At 6' 195lbs, his 40 time of 4.52 was run at his pro day. Vincent has had visits with Mike Martz at Chicago, Cincinnati and the San Diego chargers.

Strengths: West Coast receiver prospect with the footwork and body control to make a living on slants and crossing routes. Fights through the jam with quickness, though he must use his hands more consistently. Knows where marker is, will play physically with his man to make sure he gets the first down. Used in the slot and outside. Has just enough speed and route-running savvy to gain a step on his man on deep routes. Reliable hands, good concentration to go up in traffic or lay out for errant passes. Sets up defenders in the open field to elude. Locks up his man on the outside as run blocker and works toward the correct angle.


Denver VP John Elway was seen throwing 75 yard bombs from his knees to Vincent on his visit with Denver before the draft. The John Elway comments were confirmed via josina's twitter account and was also heard on the light rail.

jebures
04-05-2011, 09:39 PM
what is with the lull in the draft? JCMelway is usually on all the time

JCMElway
04-05-2011, 10:11 PM
Just got in after a long day. Pick is coming!

jebures
04-05-2011, 10:20 PM
Just got in after a long day. Pick is coming!

I jinxed myself, you just took my top target Chinasa

JCMElway
04-05-2011, 10:26 PM
Sorry guys, my co-GM and I were on the same page and I thought he'd throw the pick up there. More about Chinasa later. Now to bed. It's my Fiancee's birthday! I had a late dinner with her and the in-laws after work, hence the late pick.

24champ
04-05-2011, 11:23 PM
More on the Texans selection of Colin Jones out of TCU.


http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2011/01/01/17/rosebowl016.standalone.prod_affiliate.4.JPG
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From NFL.com...

Colin Jones was second-team All-Mountain West last season, was very good in everything he did Friday, impressing with 4.34 and 4.38 times in the 40-yard dash, a 37-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-4 inch broad jump. I would describe Jones, who didn't play much before his senior season only starting five games in 2009, as a late bloomer. He reminds me some of Cliff Harris, who went to six Pro Bowls after we signed him with the Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 1970. Jones really came out of the blue with his performance. He's a very good special teams player- Gil Brandt