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epicSocialism4tw
02-22-2011, 05:56 PM
Clemson defensive end Da'Quan Bowers, ranked as the top available prospect in Scouts Inc.'s top 32 and projected as a top-five pick in April's draft, plans only to lift at this week's NFL scouting combine, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Bowers, one of the most highly recruited players in his high school class, had a breakout season after the deaths of his father, Dennis, and close friend and mentor Gaines Adams of the Chicago Bears.

Bowers had shed 15 pounds and was performing well in preseason camp in August when his father collapsed while performing in his gospel band. Bowers later was visiting him in the hospital when his father suffered a seizure and died. Bowers spent two weeks away before rejoining the team.

Bowers, wearing Adams' old No. 93, had a sack in nine straight games last season, breaking Adams' record by a game. He also surpassed Adams' record for sacks by a defensive lineman.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6147502
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Bowers had that kind of great season after that much personal tragedy. He's a high character kid too.

I'm liking him more and more as the Broncos pick at #2. He is the #1 player on many draft boards, so the Broncos may not get a shot to take him at 2.

McDman
02-22-2011, 06:18 PM
I just get the same feeling with him I got with Maybin and Gholston. I actually want Dareus more than anyone.

rugbythug
02-22-2011, 06:22 PM
I just get the same feeling with him I got with Maybin and Gholston. I actually want Dareus more than anyone.

That he is not an OLB?

TheReverend
02-22-2011, 06:23 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1BhjOtBR41M/TTkA3BSGmGI/AAAAAAAABig/OZY-zcYWzSQ/s1600/patrick%2Bpeterson%2B2.jpg

The first DB in a decade I couldn't find anything wrong with. Plus, all CBs named Patrick are awesome people.

Shoemaker
02-22-2011, 06:26 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1BhjOtBR41M/TTkA3BSGmGI/AAAAAAAABig/OZY-zcYWzSQ/s1600/patrick%2Bpeterson%2B2.jpg

The first DB in a decade I couldn't find anything wrong with. Plus, all CBs named Patrick are awesome people.

To be honest, I'm perfectly fine with drafting Peterson, Dareus, Bowers, or Fairly at #2-any of them would instantly improve our defense, and they're all elite talents.

That picture is incredibly badass, though. Unless the D-Linemen can boast pics of themselves that are that cool, its advantage Peterson at this point.

rugbythug
02-22-2011, 06:27 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1BhjOtBR41M/TTkA3BSGmGI/AAAAAAAABig/OZY-zcYWzSQ/s1600/patrick%2Bpeterson%2B2.jpg

The first DB in a decade I couldn't find anything wrong with. Plus, all CBs named Patrick are awesome people.

Didn't he bang that Dudes Girlfriend at the Pro Bowl??

Chris
02-22-2011, 06:32 PM
He isn't really making it rain. That is fake rain.

BroncoMan4ever
02-22-2011, 06:39 PM
I just get the same feeling with him I got with Maybin and Gholston. I actually want Dareus more than anyone.

i agree.

he seems great, but i just have a problem drafting these 1 year wonders. reminds me too much about Jarvis Moss.

Chris
02-22-2011, 06:40 PM
If Bowers goes first are people now leaning towards Dareus over Fairley?

~Crash~
02-22-2011, 06:42 PM
only pussys

TheReverend
02-22-2011, 06:44 PM
If Bowers goes first are people now leaning towards Dareus over Fairley?

Doesnt matter. Combine hasnt even happened yet. And pro days. Itll sort itself out soon enough

~Crash~
02-22-2011, 06:44 PM
If we draft Fairley I will be the only Broncos fan happy as hell about it. I want a mean nast mother ****er!

~Crash~
02-22-2011, 06:48 PM
I want Fairley to give Rivers a face mask treatment that requires stitch's

BroncoMan4ever
02-22-2011, 06:48 PM
If we draft Fairley I will be the only Broncos fan happy as hell about it. I want a mean nast mother ****er!

so do i but i would like to see the team look into getting Haynesworth. of the top DL talent i want Dareus over both Fairley and Bowers

BroncoMan4ever
02-22-2011, 06:50 PM
I want Fairley to give Rivers a face mask treatment that requires stitch's

Fairley strikes me as the type that will for every big play he makes end up costing the defense by getting called on an unnecessary roughness call.

i'm all for nasty, but controlled nasty.

oubronco
02-22-2011, 07:07 PM
If Bowers goes first are people now leaning towards Dareus over Fairley? Dareus is the answer

Dedhed
02-22-2011, 07:23 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1BhjOtBR41M/TTkA3BSGmGI/AAAAAAAABig/OZY-zcYWzSQ/s1600/patrick%2Bpeterson%2B2.jpg

The first DB in a decade I couldn't find anything wrong with. Plus, all CBs named Patrick are awesome people.

YES!

Chris
02-22-2011, 07:25 PM
If he didn't have a cool uniform and a photo of him in the rain how many of you would be rooting for him?

Rascal
02-22-2011, 07:39 PM
I want us to trade down 2-3 spots and get one of Peterson, Daraes, Fairley, or Bowers. One will be available.

cmhargrove
02-22-2011, 08:05 PM
I want us to trade down 2-3 spots and get one of Peterson, Daraes, Fairley, or Bowers. One will be available.

All we would need is for the cam Newton hype train to get going, and for another team to want him worse than Buffalo.

gyldenlove
02-22-2011, 08:10 PM
Didn't he bang that Dudes Girlfriend at the Pro Bowl??

**** that dude, he is a douchenozzle anyway, she was better off with Patrick.

Tim
02-22-2011, 08:10 PM
I don't think bowers will be a top 5 pick, I hope we get peterson

oubronco
02-22-2011, 08:21 PM
NFL Network's Mike Mayock expects North Carolina's Robert Quinn to "challenge" Clemson's Da'Quan Bowers as the draft's No. 1 defensive end.

Quinn "might be most talented football player in this draft," said Mayock. "One of most dominant edge rushers I've ever seen on tape." Mayock also predicts Quinn will run a 4.55 forty at 270 pounds. Quinn's talent has long been considered top-of-the-draft quality, but questions remain about his lackadaisical attitude. His will be one of the most interesting Combine performances.
Related: Da'Quan Bowers (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6463/daquan-bowers)

Source: Evan Silva on Twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/evansilva/statuses/40204425188347904)
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oubronco
02-22-2011, 08:22 PM
All we would need is for the cam Newton hype train to get going, and for another team to want him worse than Buffalo.

Auburn QB Cam Newton told SI's Peter King Tuesday that he sees himself "not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon."
Responding to a question about his limited experience, Newton also tells Yahoo's Dan Wetzel: "Not to sound arrogant, but what I did in one year others couldn't do in their entire collegiate careers." Together, the two quotes may put a screeching halt to Newton's upward momentum. Teams clearly have concerns about Newton's priorities and character as well as his team of handlers. The mentality that fostered entertainment icon LeBron's "Decision" may play in the NBA, but it won't fly with NFL scouts and coaches. If Newton is so dead-set on reaching icon status, he should study the careers of Brian Bosworth and Ryan Leaf. Source: Peter King on Twitter Feb 22, 4:54 PM

Chris
02-22-2011, 08:32 PM
Auburn QB Cam Newton told SI's Peter King Tuesday that he sees himself "not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon."
Responding to a question about his limited experience, Newton also tells Yahoo's Dan Wetzel: "Not to sound arrogant, but what I did in one year others couldn't do in their entire collegiate careers." Together, the two quotes may put a screeching halt to Newton's upward momentum. Teams clearly have concerns about Newton's priorities and character as well as his team of handlers. The mentality that fostered entertainment icon LeBron's "Decision" may play in the NBA, but it won't fly with NFL scouts and coaches. If Newton is so dead-set on reaching icon status, he should study the careers of Brian Bosworth and Ryan Leaf. Source: Peter King on Twitter Feb 22, 4:54 PM

http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay/files/2008/05/redflags.jpg

serious hops
02-22-2011, 08:58 PM
He considers himself an "icon?"

ROFL!

More like an assclown. This kid's attitude has Jamarcus written all over it, IMO. Good luck to the team that drafts him.

uplink
02-22-2011, 09:54 PM
Bowers had one good year, I am skeptical

epicSocialism4tw
02-22-2011, 10:17 PM
Auburn QB Cam Newton told SI's Peter King Tuesday that he sees himself "not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon."
Responding to a question about his limited experience, Newton also tells Yahoo's Dan Wetzel: "Not to sound arrogant, but what I did in one year others couldn't do in their entire collegiate careers." Together, the two quotes may put a screeching halt to Newton's upward momentum. Teams clearly have concerns about Newton's priorities and character as well as his team of handlers. The mentality that fostered entertainment icon LeBron's "Decision" may play in the NBA, but it won't fly with NFL scouts and coaches. If Newton is so dead-set on reaching icon status, he should study the careers of Brian Bosworth and Ryan Leaf. Source: Peter King on Twitter Feb 22, 4:54 PM

Flavor Clown.

His Primadonna act got him paid in college, got his pay-to-play scandal overlooked by the SEC, and now he's bringing it to the NFL.

He's going to learn a hard lesson very soon.

This dude has bust written all over him.

epicSocialism4tw
02-22-2011, 10:20 PM
Bowers had one good year, I am skeptical

Yeah, his junior year.

He didnt play as much as a frosh and a sophomore.

Dude's only 20 years old for crying out loud.

schaaf
02-22-2011, 10:20 PM
Bowers had one good year, I am skeptical

He was pretty solid his sophomore year, and he was the number one overall player coming out of High school, I wouldn't consider him a one year wonder.

But I can see why youre skeptical

epicSocialism4tw
02-22-2011, 10:22 PM
Hey guys, I think we should all be worried about Patrick Peterson.

He didnt play as much as a freshman and sophomore. He's clearly a one year wonder.

schaaf
02-22-2011, 10:24 PM
I know youre using Sarcasm but Peterson did start as a true freshman in the SEC

epicSocialism4tw
02-22-2011, 10:25 PM
Guys, Fairley didnt dominate as a freshman. Everyone should be really worried about that.

epicSocialism4tw
02-22-2011, 10:27 PM
I know youre using Sarcasm but Peterson did start as a true freshman in the SEC

He started toward the end of the year, and he had one pick over the span of that season.

Everyone should be really worried that he didnt step in and dominate as a young player. ;D

footstepsfrom#27
02-22-2011, 11:45 PM
Bowers had one good year, I am skeptical
Not true he had a solid sophmore year and played more than most do as a freshman. He's just a junior how many great years is he supposed to have?

epicSocialism4tw
02-22-2011, 11:59 PM
Not true he had a solid sophmore year and played more than most do as a freshman. He's just a junior how many great years is he supposed to have?

Its just one of those myths that gets propagated by people who want to believe it.

I know alot of 20-year olds that still dont "get it". Bowers gets it. For a young man to turn that kind of tragedy into that kind of glowing success is an impressive feat. Every interview I have seen with Bowers reveals him to be thoughtful and polite.

He does a little gospel pickin' too:
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There's alot to like about Bowers. Class act all the way around.

BroncoMan4ever
02-23-2011, 12:02 AM
Its just one of those myths that gets propagated by people who want to believe it.

I know alot of 20-year olds that still dont "get it". Bowers gets it. For a young man to turn that kind of tragedy into that kind of glowing success is an impressive feat. Every interview I have seen with Bowers reveals him to be thoughtful and polite.

He does a little gospel pickin' too:
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Si6cxlsYzYY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

There's alot to like about Bowers. Class act all the way around.

i'm tired of choir boys. give this team a straight up crazy mofo who scares the **** out of opponents.

i want nasty, mean, ugly, crazy dude who everyone knows is a straight up asshole but gets results.

i want a new Romanowski here in Denver.

epicSocialism4tw
02-23-2011, 12:13 AM
i'm tired of choir boys. give this team a straight up crazy mofo who scares the **** out of opponents.

i want nasty, mean, ugly, crazy dude who everyone knows is a straight up a-hole but gets results.

i want a new Romanowski here in Denver.

I like the Tebow version of a football monster much better.

Romo was just a bad person. Dude broke Sharpe's arm on purpose. Spit in Stokes' face. I dont want kids watching that garbage.

Polamalu is a choir boy too. He's probably the most feared player in the game.

There are alot of "choir boys" in the NFL. He'll fit right in.

uplink
03-01-2011, 07:32 PM
He was pretty solid his sophomore year, and he was the number one overall player coming out of High school, I wouldn't consider him a one year wonder.

But I can see why youre skeptical

Bill Williamson agrees with me on Bowers being a skeptical pick. I guess that is not a good thing for me.

Why he shouldn’t be the 2nd pick: Bowers is not considered a sure thing. He had only one productive year of college football. http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/24799/heres-looking-at-no-2

epicSocialism4tw
03-01-2011, 07:35 PM
Bill Williamson agrees with me on Bowers being a skeptical pick. I guess that is not a good thing for me.

Why he shouldn’t be the 2nd pick: Bowers is not considered a sure thing. He had only one productive year of college football. http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/24799/heres-looking-at-no-2

Yeah, you should abandon that opinion as quick as you can. ;)

Requiem
03-01-2011, 07:52 PM
Dareus > Bowers

BroncoMan4ever
03-01-2011, 08:01 PM
I like the Tebow version of a football monster much better.

Romo was just a bad person. Dude broke Sharpe's arm on purpose. Spit in Stokes' face. I dont want kids watching that garbage.

Polamalu is a choir boy too. He's probably the most feared player in the game.

There are alot of "choir boys" in the NFL. He'll fit right in.

Romo was easily one of the most feared to ever play the game. no one prepared like he did. no one put more of themselves in the their game. i want someone on defense like that again. the guy lived and breathed football, it was all he cared about.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
03-01-2011, 08:06 PM
I think it's funny when Llama gets upset when opinions of others differ from his own. Gets all huffy, like a 12 year old girl.

It's cute.

HAT
03-01-2011, 08:12 PM
I want us to trade down 2-3 spots and get one of Peterson, Daraes, Fairley, or Bowers. One will be available.

This is where I'm at and I'd add Miller to that list. I think they could go back as far as #8 and still get one of them if you figure Newton, Green & Gabbert will go top 7.

I would freaking LOVE it if Denver could follow a similar pattern as last year....Trade back & then trade back into the 1st round.

Trade from 2 to 7 or so and add a 2nd & 4th....Then trade two of the three 2nds for a first in the high teens and another 4th.

1a: 5-7 overall
1b: 15-20 overall
2: Mid 30's
3: #67 (3.3)
4a: Top half of 4th
4b: Bottom half of 4th

epicSocialism4tw
03-01-2011, 08:38 PM
Romo was easily one of the most feared to ever play the game. no one prepared like he did. no one put more of themselves in the their game. i want someone on defense like that again. the guy lived and breathed football, it was all he cared about.

You dont have to be a jackass to be feared. I wouldnt put Romo in any elevated category. Except for maybe elevated testosterone...because he was on 'roids.

Tebow lives football too. The dude is constantly working. I view the fact that he's not a jackass as a positive. Same for Polamalu.

epicSocialism4tw
03-01-2011, 08:41 PM
This is where I'm at and I'd add Miller to that list. I think they could go back as far as #8 and still get one of them if you figure Newton, Green & Gabbert will go top 7.

I would freaking LOVE it if Denver could follow a similar pattern as last year....Trade back & then trade back into the 1st round.

Trade from 2 to 7 or so and add a 2nd & 4th....Then trade two of the three 2nds for a first in the high teens and another 4th.

1a: 5-7 overall
1b: 15-20 overall
2: Mid 30's
3: #67 (3.3)
4a: Top half of 4th
4b: Bottom half of 4th

Add a "Trade Orton for a late two/ early three" to your design and that's a pretty fun draft.

HAT
03-01-2011, 10:15 PM
Add a "Trade Orton for a late two/ early three" to your design and that's a pretty fun draft.

Unfortunately it looks like that won't be an option pre-draft. Even still, if they could pull something like that off I'd be ecstatic.

You basically gain the top DT, DE, LB or CB AND a top 3-5 DT/DE AND two 4th rounders and only give up a middle 2nd rounder and the right to choose which of the 5 stud defenders you want.

If only it were that easy.

Dedhed
03-01-2011, 10:34 PM
I think it's funny when Llama gets upset when opinions of others differ from his own. Gets all huffy, like a 12 year old girl.

It's cute.

I think it's funny when he expects us to take him his opinion on a prospect seriously when he can't spell that prospects name right in a thread title.

"I'm agenst newklier war".

listopencil
03-01-2011, 10:37 PM
Auburn QB Cam Newton told SI's Peter King Tuesday that he sees himself "not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon."
Responding to a question about his limited experience, Newton also tells Yahoo's Dan Wetzel: "Not to sound arrogant, but what I did in one year others couldn't do in their entire collegiate careers." Together, the two quotes may put a screeching halt to Newton's upward momentum. Teams clearly have concerns about Newton's priorities and character as well as his team of handlers. The mentality that fostered entertainment icon LeBron's "Decision" may play in the NBA, but it won't fly with NFL scouts and coaches. If Newton is so dead-set on reaching icon status, he should study the careers of Brian Bosworth and Ryan Leaf. Source: Peter King on Twitter Feb 22, 4:54 PM

Wow. **** Cam Newton.

epicSocialism4tw
03-01-2011, 10:41 PM
I think it's funny when he expects us to take him his opinion on a prospect seriously when he can't spell that prospects name right in a thread title.

"I'm agenst newklier war".

I didnt ask anyone to take my opinion of a prospect seriously. I'm admittedly not an NFL talent scout. I'm just some schmuck with an opinion.

If you wanted to know if I have an opinion on prospects that you respect, you could look at my track record. I'm not sure how it is here, its probably terrible. If you want to know about OU players, I can tell you about them all day. I can tell you about most Big 12 South guys, and some of the bigger profile North guys.

As for the guy you quoted, I dont even know who that is or why I have them on ignore (must have been a long time ago), but evidently that guy follows me around and posts garbage after I do. Somebody else quoted him today and he was talking about me in that post too. Weird. Stalkerish.

Broncoman13
03-01-2011, 10:46 PM
Cowboys love Patrick Peterson. Moving down to 10 is a little steep, but I would certainly consider an offer like this:

Denver drafts Patrick Peterson (assuming they do like him and are willing to roll with him if a trade doesn't work out).

Akumakara is drafted in the 7-9 range.

Newton, Peterson, Bowers, Gabbert, Fairley, Dareus, Akumara, and AJ Green have all been selected by now. Cowboys need DBs, so do they reach on Smith or Harris, trade down, or trade for the rights to Patrick Peterson.

The latter would cost #9, a 2nd this year and a first next year, plus a player. A guy like Marcellus Bennett or Tashard Choice.

The problem is, there aren't a bunch of name Players available at this point. Robert Quinn, JJ Watt, Cam Jordan, and of course Von Miller.

We would get either a 2nd RB or a top receiving TE on our team. An extra 2nd to address the DL, and most importantly, another first for next year. Depending on how Tebow plays this year or how much he develops, I think Elway is going to want to go after Andrew Luck. I am pretty confident in this based on a recent conversation I had with a former player at one of our kids basketball games. I asked about Tebow and if he thought he was the future. He tugged his cap and said our future QB is still in school.

Not saying this exact trade will go down, but if we acquire an additional first in next years draft, they are already building the pieces to be able to make a play on their guy. And if Tebow shows that he is a world beater, you still have a great chance at adding more elite talent.

I would of course prefer we trade with a team like the Cardinals which would all but assure us a shot at either Dareus, Fairley, Bowers, or Peterson. And we would most likely pull a future first and a 3rd this year, if not more!

Dedhed
03-01-2011, 10:46 PM
I didnt ask anyone to take my opinion of a prospect seriously.Start a notebook, and in it write "I will not start threads in public forums if I don't expect to be taken seriously."

epicSocialism4tw
03-01-2011, 11:01 PM
Start a notebook, and in it write "I will not start threads in public forums if I don't expect to be taken seriously."

I started a thread to talk about Bowers, not to be taken seriously.

Dedhed
03-01-2011, 11:14 PM
I started a thread to talk about Bowers, not to be taken seriously.
Well, no one's talking about Bowers, and no one's taking you seriously. So by my count you've managed to succeed in failing. Way to go!

www.google.com

Broncoman13
03-02-2011, 12:44 PM
Bowers, Fairley, Miller, Dareus, Peterson... you can trade down to #6 and get one of those 5 (assuming at least one QB goes top 5).

HAT
03-02-2011, 01:13 PM
Bowers, Fairley, Miller, Dareus, Peterson... you can trade down to #6 and get one of those 5 (assuming at least one QB goes top 5).

I think Green to the Bengals is a virtual lock so even the 7th pick should all but guarantee one of those 5 being available.

Broncoman13
03-02-2011, 02:41 PM
Bengals may have to go QB.

HAT
03-02-2011, 02:45 PM
Bengals may have to go QB.

That would be outstanding as it's one more team that might think about jumping Buffalo......But i really think they are going to try and roll with Palmer instead & just get him WR help that is not TO or 85.

Broncoman13
03-02-2011, 02:53 PM
Carson Palmer isn't going to play in Cincy again. Taking a pretty hard stand there.

epicSocialism4tw
03-02-2011, 06:20 PM
That would be outstanding as it's one more team that might think about jumping Buffalo......But i really think they are going to try and roll with Palmer instead & just get him WR help that is not TO or 85.

Palmer has said publicly that he'll never play for the Bengals again. Dude seriously wants out of that place. I guess he's tired of the vortex of suck that prevents them from ever competing.

At this point, I'm pretty certain that they're going for whatever QB they can. More good news for the Broncos.