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McDman
02-22-2011, 04:31 PM
I just got accepted into a masters program at the University of Newcastle, I'm not 100% sure I'm going to accept the offer but it would be nice to know a little bit more about the city.

I've heard it's a big party city, is that true? What types of things are there to do?

Most importantly, what are the chances I get to watch any Bronco games?

OBF1
02-22-2011, 04:32 PM
Ask Miss I

DenverBrit
02-22-2011, 04:43 PM
It's been a long time since I visited Newcastle, but one thing I can tell you is that the locals (Geordies) are some of the friendliest you'll ever meet.

Have fun, it's a party town.

SoCalBronco
02-22-2011, 04:49 PM
You can shack up with Miss I.....so you've got that going for you....which is nice.

Peoples Champ
02-22-2011, 04:49 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_upon_Tyne#Nightlife

nightlife i guess looks good

Chris
02-22-2011, 05:00 PM
I've never been to Newcastle. Geordies....... eh.

I lived in London. I will say this if you move to England

Get a good group of friends because the English aren't as socially open as Americans
Kiss your liver goodbye and the women will out drink you if you're used to drinking American beer aka water
Don't become a classist prick like so many people unless they're from Essex in which case bleurgh
Prepare yourself for the best humour on the planet... which if you're American might take you a while to click with but when you do there's no going back. It's a lot less juvenile (not that there's anything wrong with juvenile humour).

England's a great place and it would be a great experience. It could serve as a launch pad for you to explore Europe.

EDIT: On the games - when I lived there there were two sunday night games... one afternoon game and the actual sunday night games. the commentary sucked but then, doesn't it suck in the USA?

It beats growing up where I had to listen to games on the radio and have my aunt mail me VHS tapes that arrived two weeks later.

Requiem
02-22-2011, 05:01 PM
Congratulations, I was looking at programs in Newcastle as well!

strafen
02-22-2011, 05:10 PM
As far as football, you can watch just from anywhere in the world.
I was in Aruba last December and I was able to watch games via satellite dish...

McDman
02-22-2011, 05:15 PM
I've never been to Newcastle. Geordies....... eh.

I lived in London. I will say this if you move to England

Get a good group of friends because the English aren't as socially open as Americans
Kiss your liver goodbye and the women will out drink you if you're used to drinking American beer aka water
Don't become a classist prick like so many people unless they're from Essex in which case bleurgh
Prepare yourself for the best humour on the planet... which if you're American might take you a while to click with but when you do there's no going back. It's a lot less juvenile (not that there's anything wrong with juvenile humour).

England's a great place and it would be a great experience. It could serve as a launch pad for you to explore Europe.

EDIT: On the games - when I lived there there were two sunday night games... one afternoon game and the actual sunday night games. the commentary sucked but then, doesn't it suck in the USA?

It beats growing up where I had to listen to games on the radio and have my aunt mail me VHS tapes that arrived two weeks later.

My friend studied in Liverpool and said the guys weren't too receptive but he could have easily gotten a ton of girls.

I'm getting more and more certain I'm going to go, it's just a pretty massive decision right now.

I currently work at a nuclear power plant as a hydro testing engineer and I make crazy good money, but I'm miserable. I work six days a week and I get up at 4:30 and don't get home until 6:30, I have no life anymore. If I get my history masters I will make a lot less money in my lifetime but I think I will be happier overall.

Needless to say it's probably the biggest decision I'm going to have to make thus far.

McDman
02-22-2011, 05:15 PM
Congratulations, I was looking at programs in Newcastle as well!

Thanks man.

Chris
02-22-2011, 05:37 PM
My friend studied in Liverpool and said the guys weren't too receptive but he could have easily gotten a ton of girls.

I'm getting more and more certain I'm going to go, it's just a pretty massive decision right now.

I currently work at a nuclear power plant as a hydro testing engineer and I make crazy good money, but I'm miserable. I work six days a week and I get up at 4:30 and don't get home until 6:30, I have no life anymore. If I get my history masters I will make a lot less money in my lifetime but I think I will be happier overall.

Needless to say it's probably the biggest decision I'm going to have to make thus far.

I'm in a similar place. Money ain't all that but it's a tough decision. Can you put it off one year and rack up some more cash?

McDman
02-22-2011, 06:02 PM
I'm in a similar place. Money ain't all that but it's a tough decision. Can you put it off one year and rack up some more cash?

I'd rather not, it's kind of this year or not at all. I won't have to take a loan out because I've made enough money, but it will be hard to give up.

Chris
02-22-2011, 06:06 PM
Do it man. Just know what you're getting into (fun, history, tits, closing some other doors too).

Garcia Bronco
02-22-2011, 06:14 PM
Do it. Do it. Do it

McDman
02-22-2011, 06:17 PM
Unfortunately I'll miss the Broncos season. Maybe a lockout wouldn't be so bad.

Chris
02-22-2011, 06:19 PM
No man it's not that hard. That's what the interwebs is for. Plus with tebow starting we'll be primetime. You just need Sky TV.

TerrElway
02-22-2011, 08:12 PM
Lived in the Liverpool and Manchester areas for awhile. English humor is the best. Love it there in the spring with everything blooming. Many Americans go expecting it to be a lot like the US. It's not. The geordi accent can be tough to understand at first. Until you meet a Scot from Glasgow. I miss England. The people are more reserved for the most part so don't be a loud American prick! :) you'll get plenty of female attention being a Yank and all. Good luck.

ghwk
02-22-2011, 08:19 PM
My friend studied in Liverpool and said the guys weren't too receptive but he could have easily gotten a ton of girls.

I'm getting more and more certain I'm going to go, it's just a pretty massive decision right now.

I currently work at a nuclear power plant as a hydro testing engineer and I make crazy good money, but I'm miserable. I work six days a week and I get up at 4:30 and don't get home until 6:30, I have no life anymore. If I get my history masters I will make a lot less money in my lifetime but I think I will be happier overall.

Needless to say it's probably the biggest decision I'm going to have to make thus far.

Go Go Go and never look back. Right now your future at the plant is exactly like it is today...forever. You go do this and a million more doors open up for you. Pick just about any of them and it's better than what you have now.

That One Guy
02-22-2011, 08:48 PM
I visited England once. Many people spoke English so they have that going for them.

Hope it helps!

bowtown
02-22-2011, 08:49 PM
Full of Brits. Everyone is named Simon and eats lumpy mashers.

That One Guy
02-22-2011, 08:52 PM
I watched a documentary once where they kept invading their neighbors - Scotland I believe it was. They even recruited the Irish to help in some sort of gang fight. Then this guy with a blue face started babbling about lightning bolts and they fought.

Seemed like a rough place to live, personally.

bowtown
02-22-2011, 08:52 PM
I watched a documentary once where they kept invading their neighbors - Scotland I believe it was. They even recruited the Irish to help in some sort of gang fight. Then this guy with a blue face started babbling about lightning bolts and they fought.

Seemed like a rough place to live, personally.

Plus: bad teeth.

Sir_Robin
02-22-2011, 09:07 PM
They make a fine brown ale, what more do you need?

SoCalBronco
02-22-2011, 09:11 PM
The geordi accent can be tough to understand at first.

Ehh.....he just needs to practice his "ello gov'na" and he'll be fine.

;D

Archer81
02-22-2011, 09:15 PM
I watched a documentary once where they kept invading their neighbors - Scotland I believe it was. They even recruited the Irish to help in some sort of gang fight. Then this guy with a blue face started babbling about lightning bolts and they fought.

Seemed like a rough place to live, personally.


I think I saw the same documentary. The king dude is a dick. "Wont our archers hit our men?" "They will hit theirs as well...attack"...he had a homo son though. And his wife was french. I read somewhere that she would later instigate rebellion and shove a hot poker up his aisehole.

Wierd brits.

:Broncos:

underrated29
02-22-2011, 09:38 PM
been there. I did not like it very much. But I was little, so I am sure I would like it more now.

Got yelled at by a lady and a bobby for chasing pigeons..I was 9.


But one thing I did not like was the food. I did not like the food. Do they boil everything there?



Id still say do it.

The Joker
02-22-2011, 09:58 PM
Do it, Newcastle is a fantastic city.

The local people are very difficult to understand at first, but of the cities in England I've been to they're definitely the most friendly and outgoing.

The NFL is actually growing in popularity quite a lot over in the UK, and watching Broncos games is very, very doable as long as you have the internet.

Do you have any interest in soccer whatsoever? It's pretty much a religion in Newcastle so being receptive to the idea of supporting Newcastle would be very useful in terms of settling in there.

Newcastle United and the Broncos are my two sporting passions so I could probably help you out a bit, there's a forum I go on that's very good (we have a pretty sweet NFL thread on there too and there are plenty of Americans on the forum in general) that I could link you too also if you're interested.

Garcia Bronco
02-22-2011, 10:13 PM
Plus: bad teeth.

The British Book of Smiles.

Baba Booey
02-22-2011, 10:32 PM
Visited my buddy for a week when he was studying at King's in London.

London's a great time - had a blast. Hopped over to Galway, Ireland for St. Patty's too.

You'll have a good deal of fun I imagine.

McDman
02-23-2011, 01:55 AM
Do it, Newcastle is a fantastic city.

The local people are very difficult to understand at first, but of the cities in England I've been to they're definitely the most friendly and outgoing.

The NFL is actually growing in popularity quite a lot over in the UK, and watching Broncos games is very, very doable as long as you have the internet.

Do you have any interest in soccer whatsoever? It's pretty much a religion in Newcastle so being receptive to the idea of supporting Newcastle would be very useful in terms of settling in there.

Newcastle United and the Broncos are my two sporting passions so I could probably help you out a bit, there's a forum I go on that's very good (we have a pretty sweet NFL thread on there too and there are plenty of Americans on the forum in general) that I could link you too also if you're interested.

I love soccer and Newcastle or Everton are probably my favorite team.

The Joker
02-23-2011, 02:35 AM
I love soccer and Newcastle are my favorite team.

Fixed it for you.

Practice saying that and you'll be fine when you get there. :)

You also HATE Sunderland as though they're the Raiders, Chiefs and Chargers merged into one awful franchise.

KO5K
02-23-2011, 03:31 AM
The Broncos were on English TV 3 times this year. Against the Colts, 49ers and MNF against the Chargers, but they were all on Sky which I don't pay for. But I watched every Broncos snap this year, 15 games on the Internet and I went to the 49ers game.

NFL coverage is pretty lame in the UK to be honest. We get an early and a late Sunday game as well as SNF and MNF, Sky also show Thursday night games when they start. But with the Broncos being pretty bad of late they aren't often show but as long as you're happy with Internet streams you'll have no problem seeing the Broncos (most of the streams I used were links given in threads on this forum).

vanbrugh
02-23-2011, 04:34 AM
As long as you have an internet connection you can subscribe as i do to NFL Gamepass.

Its priced at around $249.99 for the season or there are other packages you can get which are monthly/weekly.

You can watch any game on this and can also view archived games going back 2 years.

What seems expensive really isn't when you work out what your actually receiving for your buck.

uk bronco
02-23-2011, 08:00 AM
Newcastle is a great city, my sister lives there. I'm from Scotland (greatest place in the world) but lived near newcastle for about a year. It is a really nice place to live. Great public transport friendly people. Loads of nightlife and things to do. Newcastle has invested heavily in activities and there is so much to do. The University is really good as well just dont play for their football team unless you really enjoy the double wing.

Rohirrim
02-23-2011, 08:07 AM
Just tell everybody you're a big Sunderland fan and you'll have all the friends you need.

Drunk Monkey
02-23-2011, 08:09 AM
I lived in London for a year and a half. Great experience, I had a blast. DO IT!!! Way to many Americans go through life with blinders on. This will open your eyes to the rest of the world. Also living in Europe makes it real easy to see the rest of it. About once a month we were going somewhere on the cheap. The English are great but the Aussies are even better. I had a good group of friends and ended up finding my wife there. DO IT!!!

bendog
02-23-2011, 08:12 AM
At least they're not French. God I hate those bastards.

Chris
02-23-2011, 08:15 AM
Firstly, I highly doubt the English ever did anything with the Irish.

Secondly, two names to remember - Sir Bobby Robson (RIP) and Alan Shearer.

McDman
02-23-2011, 08:50 AM
I'm certain I'm going to do it, even if I come back poor and can't find a good job it will probably be worth it.

I was a big Michael Owen fan, its unfortubate about his injuries.

bendog
02-23-2011, 08:54 AM
They eat baked beans for BREAKFAST.

Chris
02-23-2011, 09:00 AM
They eat baked beans for BREAKFAST.

Is that weird? The English breakfast might be the best dish on the planet.

Drunk Monkey
02-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Is that weird? The English breakfast might be the best dish on the planet.

No doubt, there was a summer restaurant in the park by Fulham Broadway tube station that had the best breakfast.

Miss I.
02-23-2011, 10:04 AM
You can shack up with Miss I.....so you've got that going for you....which is nice.

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Miss I.
02-23-2011, 10:13 AM
all smartassery aside, if you can deal with the lack of sunlight, rain, fog and the fairly boring food, England has a lot to offer. I can't say I know much about Newcastle since I live much closer to the area around Oxford, but I recall from my train ride to Scotland it looked really lovely. I've heard very nice things about the Geordies and of course there is the beer. I highly recommend taking the opportunity if you can because I love being over here (most of the time, except for the whole psycho ex, it's been mainly good). It is quite expensive over here though. Not sure what your offer all entails and what it will cover (such as living expenses and medical, etc). My job comes with certain things that make my ability to live here okay, but probably couldn't have done it without them. That said Newcastle maybe less expensive then where I am too, I really don't know.

As for Broncos games, I have Sky and catch some games on there, but stream a lot of them on line. I also watch a lot of US tv on line too. I also got to attend the Broncos game at Wembley and that was a blast, despite the outcome and the fact that some Raiders fan touched me..(eek). Met a couple of the Maners there so that was quite cool. The best thing for me has been getting to travel abroad so much easier and largely less expensively. Public transport over here is better than where I was in the States and that's nice so if you don't want to bring a car, you might be able to avoid that. I actually do have a Brit car.

the lack of sun can get depressing, but it's really all in your outlook and in making friends. Support systems are helpful. Oddly I met some really nice English Blokes in Paris this past weekend. Was pretty cool. anyway, that's my 35 pence.

gyldenlove
02-23-2011, 11:31 AM
all smartassery aside, if you can deal with the lack of sunlight, rain, fog and the fairly boring food, England has a lot to offer. I can't say I know much about Newcastle since I live much closer to the area around Oxford, but I recall from my train ride to Scotland it looked really lovely. I've heard very nice things about the Geordies and of course there is the beer. I highly recommend taking the opportunity if you can because I love being over here (most of the time, except for the whole psycho ex, it's been mainly good). It is quite expensive over here though. Not sure what your offer all entails and what it will cover (such as living expenses and medical, etc). My job comes with certain things that make my ability to live here okay, but probably couldn't have done it without them. That said Newcastle maybe less expensive then where I am too, I really don't know.

As for Broncos games, I have Sky and catch some games on there, but stream a lot of them on line. I also watch a lot of US tv on line too. I also got to attend the Broncos game at Wembley and that was a blast, despite the outcome and the fact that some Raiders fan touched me..(eek). Met a couple of the Maners there so that was quite cool. The best thing for me has been getting to travel abroad so much easier and largely less expensively. Public transport over here is better than where I was in the States and that's nice so if you don't want to bring a car, you might be able to avoid that. I actually do have a Brit car.

the lack of sun can get depressing, but it's really all in your outlook and in making friends. Support systems are helpful. Oddly I met some really nice English Blokes in Paris this past weekend. Was pretty cool. anyway, that's my 35 pence.

The nice thing about being in England is that charters to Ibiza, Mallorca, Crete, Gran Canaria and parts of India are quite cheap, they do have ways of making up for the inherently bad weather in Great Britian, the original way was to colonize the entire world, when that failed they invented the cheap holiday to somewhere sunny.

maven
02-23-2011, 11:39 AM
I currently work at a nuclear power plant as a hydro testing engineer and I make crazy good money, but I'm miserable. I work six days a week and I get up at 4:30 and don't get home until 6:30, I have no life anymore. If I get my history masters I will make a lot less money in my lifetime but I think I will be happier overall.

Needless to say it's probably the biggest decision I'm going to have to make thus far.

Time to take a chance and do something else.

bendog
02-23-2011, 11:47 AM
That Charles guy is just creepy. I don't know what it is about him, but something creeps me out.

Houshyamama
02-23-2011, 12:03 PM
Get tickets to Top Gear if you can and then post your experience so I can live vicariously through you.

Mogulseeker
02-23-2011, 01:06 PM
I've been to England. It is the most expensive country I've ever been to.

Maybe it is a party town, but you're not going to get too drunk when 90 percent of your money is going to rent and you're paying four pounds (about $6.50) a beer.

errand
02-23-2011, 01:19 PM
Made a trip to England when I was 12....while in London we had just come out of a drug store (apothecary?) and at the stop light pulls up former Beatle George Harrison in a Jag...he signed an autograph for a couple of girls waved and took off. Was a nice trip.....

Miss I.
02-23-2011, 01:28 PM
One other thing, of all the things I've done in my life, I have zero regrets about coming here. The cost is something to consider, but when looking back on your life will you regret missing this opportunity to see and experience living in another country more? Money will come and go, and of course you will have to budget and maybe take some loans out, but it would be worth it for the experience IMHO. Since you are a history major (that's right isn't it?) this country would be amazing for it's own fascinating varied history (and you can still walk through places that seem like looking at history in person) but you would also have fairly decent access to the amazing nations nearby whose history is equally fascinating (Germany, Italy, France, Netherlands, etc) But definitely do your research, make sure you know where to live in the area, get an estimated costs type thing so you know how much money you will have to budget for and determine if you may need loans or grants or something.

At any rate, England is a fascinating place and to me at least I've loved living here and at the same time gleaned a new desire to explore my own national history and more states when I return.

gyldenlove
02-23-2011, 01:36 PM
Get tickets to Top Gear if you can and then post your experience so I can live vicariously through you.

It is harder to get tickets to Top Gear than to the super bowl.

gyldenlove
02-23-2011, 01:39 PM
One other thing, of all the things I've done in my life, I have zero regrets about coming here. The cost is something to consider, but when looking back on your life will you regret missing this opportunity to see and experience living in another country more? Money will come and go, and of course you will have to budget and maybe take some loans out, but it would be worth it for the experience IMHO. Since you are a history major (that's right isn't it?) this country would be amazing for it's own fascinating varied history (and you can still walk through places that seem like looking at history in person) but you would also have fairly decent access to the amazing nations nearby whose history is equally fascinating (Germany, Italy, France, Netherlands, etc) But definitely do your research, make sure you know where to live in the area, get an estimated costs type thing so you know how much money you will have to budget for and determine if you may need loans or grants or something.

At any rate, England is a fascinating place and to me at least I've loved living here and at the same time gleaned a new desire to explore my own national history and more states when I return.

English history is a long tale of missery, woe and socially transmitted diseases. Honestly, southern France (Provence) is where it is at, every single important civilization has been there are some point, as well as a good deal of completely unimportant civilizations, the weather is much better, the wine is much better and plentier, the cost of living is lower and you can be assured that if you are bored for an entire week it is entirely your own fault.

Honestly though, England is pretty good.

For an accurate and entertaining but very profound brushup on English history I recommend watching the Black Adder series, all 4 seasons.

worm
02-23-2011, 01:41 PM
At any rate, England is a fascinating place and to me at least I've loved living here and at the same time gleaned a new desire to explore my own national history and more states when I return.

I thought you couldn't come back? Doomed to a life of bad weather and teeth. :sunshine:

Personally...I love drinking with the Geordies and Manx more than anyone else over there. Reason enough to base yourself out of Newcastle.

Miss I.
02-23-2011, 01:46 PM
I thought you couldn't come back? Doomed to a life of bad weather and teeth. :sunshine:

Personally...I love drinking with the Geordies and Manx more than anyone else over there. Reason enough to base yourself out of Newcastle.

Hey I escaped Kansas City already....;D

Chris
02-23-2011, 02:02 PM
Also when the weather's good in England all the fly honies lay out in the parks (all three of them).

It's not that expensive once you get out of London.

The history is mind blowing and everywhere, though I may be a bit biased since I grew up studying it (I am just now discovering US history... taking a continuing ed course on the Civil War).

The greatest city in the world for young creative people is a cheap sleazyjet flight away. That'd be Berlin. It's also incredibly inexpensive. Eastern Europe, though getting more costly, is still filled with good deals.

Honestly London kind of sucks if you don't poop pounds sterling. All the cool spots are private clubs populated by epic douchery (aka public school / eaton cocks).

Houshyamama
02-23-2011, 02:08 PM
Maybe it is a party town, but you're not going to get too drunk when 90 percent of your money is going to rent and you're paying four pounds (about six dollars) a beer.

That sounds like where I live (San Diego)

Houshyamama
02-23-2011, 02:09 PM
It is harder to get tickets to Top Gear than to the super bowl.

Damn, that would have been awesome.

bendog
02-23-2011, 02:20 PM
If you're taking a bike, the wind is nasty if you're going east to west. I don't know why that is, but the rain does come down horizontally in that direction. And imo it's easier to get laid in some other euro countries, if that's an interest.

Chris
02-23-2011, 02:28 PM
English history is a long tale of missery, woe and socially transmitted diseases. Honestly, southern France (Provence) is where it is at, every single important civilization has been there are some point, as well as a good deal of completely unimportant civilizations, the weather is much better, the wine is much better and plentier, the cost of living is lower and you can be assured that if you are bored for an entire week it is entirely your own fault.

Honestly though, England is pretty good.

For an accurate and entertaining but very profound brushup on English history I recommend watching the Black Adder series, all 4 seasons.

Southern France is great if you're over the age of 45 (sup bajajaja). Otherwise... it's a bit dull for my taste. Fun to visit... good for biking... but man is it the anti-adventure spot. It's also expensive (was when I visited), filled with Russian oligarchs with bad taste. The local people in Provence as a whole are lovely though, assuming you speak a modicum of French.

I will say that when I was a kid my mother took us to Europe for three summers on a shoestring and one of the most beautiful, memorable experiences was touring the Loire valley during the summer. That's about 90 minutes SW of Paris and it's filled with insanely cool chateaus. There's also a good trip following from Normandy to Flanders if you want to cover WW1 and WW2.

Blackadder is one of the greatest shows ever. I grew up with it. I also loved Red Dwarf which, in hindsight is not that good a show.

Brush up on this

Blackadder
I'm Alan Partridge
Peep Show
The League of Gentleman

Now! Time to pick on the Germans

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eddie mac
02-23-2011, 02:37 PM
Unfortunately I'll miss the Broncos season. Maybe a lockout wouldn't be so bad.

Unless you go to every game you'll miss nothing. In this day and age everyone in England/UK has either Sky TV (4-5 live NFL games per week), 5-6 live college games a week, or have 20mb-40mb internet so you can see every damn game live.

Oh and btw Newcastle is an absolute student party all year round, 4 of my good mates went to study there from the age of 18 and only 1 came back home.

They love their beer, football (soccer that is) and are some of the friendliest Brits around. There is always something to do there too and if you want to fit in right away buy a Newcastle United shirt.

McDman
02-23-2011, 03:38 PM
One other thing, of all the things I've done in my life, I have zero regrets about coming here. The cost is something to consider, but when looking back on your life will you regret missing this opportunity to see and experience living in another country more? Money will come and go, and of course you will have to budget and maybe take some loans out, but it would be worth it for the experience IMHO. Since you are a history major (that's right isn't it?) this country would be amazing for it's own fascinating varied history (and you can still walk through places that seem like looking at history in person) but you would also have fairly decent access to the amazing nations nearby whose history is equally fascinating (Germany, Italy, France, Netherlands, etc) But definitely do your research, make sure you know where to live in the area, get an estimated costs type thing so you know how much money you will have to budget for and determine if you may need loans or grants or something.

At any rate, England is a fascinating place and to me at least I've loved living here and at the same time gleaned a new desire to explore my own national history and more states when I return.

Well, here's the whole of my situation:

I graduated in 2009 with a degree in history from the University of Tennessee. I decided to do history, maybe stupidly, because I loved it and it interested me more than anything else I could think of. I originally wanted to teach but didn't get into the program, they only accepted like six kids with social science degrees, so I decided just to take my chances after school.

I moved home and ended up getting and job at a nuclear power plant, got lucky with connections, and within six months I got promoted to a hydro testing engineer. Right now I work at the very least six days a week and no less than 65 hours, it's basically wake up, go to work, come home, eat, and sleep. It is absolutely not what I want to do. In this industry you make a ton of money but you move from small town to small town and work damn near your whole life. I swear 70% of the people I work with have been divorced once and probably 50% at least twice.

With this job I will make more money than I will with anything else I can imagine doing, in the realm of realism for me, but I'm miserable. I don't see any friends, I don't have a girlfriend and if I did I'd have no time for her, and it's not even worth it for me to move out of my parents basement, why do that when I can just make bank for now?

After reading this pretty much everyone is going to say "absolutely move!" but there's the whole after school part of what I would do. I would enjoy teaching but it's going to be hard for me to come back without an education degree and find a job teaching, I'd have to find some way to get certified and I'd be at a disadvantage when compared to the other people applying. I also wouldn't mind doing historical research/archive type job, or hell, even working at a museum.

The big problem is I'm going to come back with limited funds and a not so certain future. By the time school rolls around I will have around $35,000 in my account. School costs $18,000, plus I have living and more importantly partying expenses. So when I come back I will have a dramatically decreased bank account and no guaranteed job. Plus, I have a new car I just bought that I have to make payments on and find somewhere to store it.

It's a huge decision. I keep going back and forth on it but it's hard for me to just make up my mind.

Chris
02-23-2011, 03:43 PM
How old are you Dman?

McDman
02-23-2011, 03:50 PM
How old are you Dman?

25

Chris
02-23-2011, 03:57 PM
You're worrying a little too much at your age (i'm 26 and guilty of the same thing). You have to roll with life's opportunities man... otherwise you're just going to keep saying "what if". In 20 years you could be married to some Geordie chick with little Geordie kids and a British citizen.

This is for a PHD in history?

McDman
02-23-2011, 03:59 PM
No, just a masters right now. Although a PhD is an option.

Btw, what is a Geordie?

bendog
02-23-2011, 04:02 PM
You could stay where you are and become

<img src="http://www.staugustinebootcamps.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/homer_simpson.jpg">

Chris
02-23-2011, 04:04 PM
No offense but when you said Nuclear I did think

http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/opening/hd/homer-plant.jpg

KO5K
02-23-2011, 04:20 PM
No, just a masters right now. Although a PhD is an option.

Btw, what is a Geordie?

Someone from Newcastle.

As a Geordie you hate the Mackems (the scumbags from Sunderland).

McDman
02-23-2011, 04:25 PM
Someone from Newcastle.

As a Geordie you hate the Mackems (the scumbags from Sunderland).

I already hate them!

That One Guy
02-23-2011, 05:01 PM
Have you considered Myrtle Beach? I read from a very good source that you can just show up there with a stripper and her kid in tow and find a job with no problem. Just another option to consider.

McDman
02-23-2011, 05:17 PM
Have you considered Myrtle Beach? I read from a very good source that you can just show up there with a stripper and her kid in tow and find a job with no problem. Just another option to consider.

You're right! Screw Newcastle!

Chris
02-23-2011, 05:32 PM
Screwcastle.

TerrElway
02-23-2011, 10:00 PM
Someone from Newcastle.

As a Geordie you hate the Mackems (the scumbags from Sunderland).

And someone from Manchester is a Mancunian, if from Liverpool you are a Scouser, if from Glasgow a Glaswegian and if from France you are a poofter. :P

Also, Black Adder RULES!

"I have a cunning plan sir..."
-Baldrick

HorseHead
02-24-2011, 12:20 PM
go for it...you're 25, have fun, learn stuff, and shag a ton of chicks....

bendog
02-24-2011, 01:43 PM
But you don't want to get into debt with school loans. Still, if you have a masters in history, you should be able to get a teaching gig in a school where kids are motivated and the job wouldn't totally suck, like a private school in the South or a community college type thing, though I'm told that there are some unmotivated types just taking out loans they never intend to repay. Those jobs don't pay, but you could have one while also being in a Ph.D. program. You might also get into a Ph.D. program while teaching some intro classes at the University. If history's your gig, you could make a decent living and could concentrate on either being an incredible teacher or research type. And in the end, you might be better off financially than sticking with the nuke gig.

Personally, I'm into Homer-mode and I'm just trying to kill my brain with beer.

McDman
02-24-2011, 03:38 PM
But you don't want to get into debt with school loans. Still, if you have a masters in history, you should be able to get a teaching gig in a school where kids are motivated and the job wouldn't totally suck, like a private school in the South or a community college type thing, though I'm told that there are some unmotivated types just taking out loans they never intend to repay. Those jobs don't pay, but you could have one while also being in a Ph.D. program. You might also get into a Ph.D. program while teaching some intro classes at the University. If history's your gig, you could make a decent living and could concentrate on either being an incredible teacher or research type. And in the end, you might be better off financially than sticking with the nuke gig.

Personally, I'm into Homer-mode and I'm just trying to kill my brain with beer.

The good thing is I will have enough money to pay for everything.

bendog
02-25-2011, 08:24 AM
And think of the young shag you can score as a college prof!

Chris
02-25-2011, 08:27 AM
Yeah you'll be like Donald Sutherland in animal house.

Cito Pelon
02-25-2011, 09:36 AM
No, just a masters right now. Although a PhD is an option.

Btw, what is a Geordie?

Look, you have to go all in one way or the other.

If you choose to go to Newcastle for the MA/History, you have to go for the PhD/History also.

You think you'd like to teach, and that's a fine profession that maybe you'd want to focus your career path on. But, you have to get the Doctorate.

I took a look at the History staff for Metropolitan State College in Denver:

http://www.mscd.edu/history/facultystaff/

All of them have PhD's, and it's not a major university.

I took a look at the History staff at Western State College in Gunnison, Colorado:

http://www.western.edu/directory/history-program-faculty/

They all have PhD's, and it's lesser than Metro State.

So you're at a crossroads on your career path, I guess you know that already. What I'm saying is if you choose to go to Newcastle, you have to be in for the pound not just the penny. You have to get the Doctorate to make a career teaching at a higher level.

I think you can probably do it, so go for it.

It beats trying to make a career in a nuclear power plant that probably will require a BSEE, BSME (at least) to advance without patronage.

Chris
02-25-2011, 10:04 AM
Have you considered any alternatives? Why is it either or?

Requiem
02-25-2011, 10:24 AM
Dman,

After reading some of your thoughts, this is the advice I'd give you:

Though you were lucky to stumble upon a job that you can make great money at, it is clear from your words and thoughts that you aren't happy there. Money can't buy you happiness, not at all. If you don't enjoy 65 hour work weeks, then don't do them. You're barely older than me, 25, and working those kind of hours would no doubt burn me out.

Just follow your bliss. If you love History, go for the MA at Newcastle. If they have a PhD option there, and you do well, you'd likely get on that track as well. Just curious, is this a research or class based MA? It doesn't really matter, but research based would be a lot better if you plan on teaching in the future.

The market is getting competitive out there, but I know a lot of places where a Master's can get you entrance to community college teaching. Hell, I had a friend I graduated with in Spring of 2010 with a Bachelor's and she was able to teach the introductory COMM classes @ the University we went to and was earning $3,500 a month. (Keep in mind, that is in North Dakota, which is a lot -- especially for a 22 year old.)

There is more than teaching too, research and stuff like that is always a possibility. You could even work overseas doing a variety of functions, for either non-profits or government related work.

If finances aren't a big problem for you, I don't see why you don't do it. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. You got accepted into a quality university over in the UK and have the luxury to be able to afford it without extra loans.

GO FOR IT MAN.

This is a no-brainer.

The benefits of going this route are going to be felt by you right away. :)

I think going over there is going to give you the life and social opportunities you are lacking here because you're such a work-a-holic.

Once again, best of luck and if you ever wanna chat about stuff, send a PM!

McDman
02-25-2011, 03:02 PM
Dman,

After reading some of your thoughts, this is the advice I'd give you:

Though you were lucky to stumble upon a job that you can make great money at, it is clear from your words and thoughts that you aren't happy there. Money can't buy you happiness, not at all. If you don't enjoy 65 hour work weeks, then don't do them. You're barely older than me, 25, and working those kind of hours would no doubt burn me out.

Just follow your bliss. If you love History, go for the MA at Newcastle. If they have a PhD option there, and you do well, you'd likely get on that track as well. Just curious, is this a research or class based MA? It doesn't really matter, but research based would be a lot better if you plan on teaching in the future.

The market is getting competitive out there, but I know a lot of places where a Master's can get you entrance to community college teaching. Hell, I had a friend I graduated with in Spring of 2010 with a Bachelor's and she was able to teach the introductory COMM classes @ the University we went to and was earning $3,500 a month. (Keep in mind, that is in North Dakota, which is a lot -- especially for a 22 year old.)

There is more than teaching too, research and stuff like that is always a possibility. You could even work overseas doing a variety of functions, for either non-profits or government related work.

If finances aren't a big problem for you, I don't see why you don't do it. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. You got accepted into a quality university over in the UK and have the luxury to be able to afford it without extra loans.

GO FOR IT MAN.

This is a no-brainer.

The benefits of going this route are going to be felt by you right away. :)

I think going over there is going to give you the life and social opportunities you are lacking here because you're such a work-a-holic.

Once again, best of luck and if you ever wanna chat about stuff, send a PM!

Thanks a lot, man.

This program is class based but I'm going to apply for the research MLitt as well, I just have to find time to write a research proposal. We're on critical path at the plant right now so I'll be working seven days a week on 12 hour shifts for awhile. Woooo!

Chris
02-25-2011, 03:13 PM
Well Dman you and I share similar schedules and we're in the same boat (though some people think I have an awesome job... they have no clue what the reality is). I've averaged 60 hours a week the past 6 years. I almost always work weekends and that number has gone up to 100 hours in the past. I've worked a 24 hour day several times because of incompetent higher ups. I worked 2 months without a day off once.

I'm on my way out... and I'm going to be so much happier. Can't wait.