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OBF1
02-11-2011, 02:28 PM
So here is a poll without having to use "What ifs"

For arguement sake Lets say Carolina picks Cam Newton (Or any other player that no one on the Broncos message board wants and Denver is now on the clock with basically an open draft board.....

What do you want Denver to do.

oubronco
02-11-2011, 02:34 PM
I wouldn't be unhappy if we took any of them but I would prefer Dareus myself and if we could trade down pick up a 2nd and still get him I would be estatic

underrated29
02-11-2011, 03:08 PM
trade down with az or someone and take whoever is left over from that list and add a 2nd rd pick.

mattob14
02-11-2011, 03:13 PM
trade down with az or someone and take whoever is left over from that list and add a 2nd rd pick.

Yes, please...

mattob14
02-11-2011, 03:15 PM
My question is, what do we consider "little value"? Is that compared to the draft board, or truly getting almost nothing in return? I think that's a major difference in how favorably people view trading down. For example, I'd make the trade mentioned already in this thread: #2 (2600 points) for #5 (1700) and #38 (520). Although the Broncos would "get screwed", losing out on 380 points on the draft board, I think there's a lot of value at 38, and Denver would be picking from similar talent at #5. If you're talking trading down just to move back, receiving, say, 2011 and 2012 3rd's to move back from #2 to #10, then no; stay at 2 and grab whoever you've evaluated as the BPA.

Doggcow
02-11-2011, 04:53 PM
I wouldn't be unhappy if we took any of them but I would prefer Dareus myself and if we could trade down pick up a 2nd and still get him I would be estatic

If we trade down and get Dareus I'll go so far to say as I'd be elastic.

GoBroncos84
02-11-2011, 07:03 PM
Agreeing with what was previously mentioned, the best case scenario for me would be trading down if we can snag a 2nd round pick and still be able to get Marcell Dareus in the first. If we cannot do that, then Fairley at no.2 would be my choice. Dareus plus a no.2 trounces Fairley though

NFLBRONCO
02-11-2011, 08:55 PM
I picked trade down to gain another 2nd rounder and still get a great player.

driver
02-12-2011, 02:03 AM
Don't like your poll it's rigged to give you the result you want. You Must be a Democrat!
How about an option that says trade down get good value for the pick and still get a
good player with our pick.

ColoradoBuff
02-12-2011, 09:06 PM
Take Peterson. Get a few DL in FA and grab one in the 2nd round.

ghwk
02-12-2011, 09:23 PM
Take Tebow AGAIN in the round.

orange crusher
02-13-2011, 12:18 AM
I'd prefer Marcell Dareus. If we were to move down a few spots and still land him, I'd be stoked but I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we took him at #2.

chanesaw
02-13-2011, 10:30 AM
I will be happy with either Fairley or Peterson.

srphoenix
02-13-2011, 12:15 PM
I was real high on Fairley for a while, and feel that DT is still a bigger need than corner, but something about Fairley worries me. I feel he has a significant bust factor that may or may not be warranted, plus some of the better draft guys are starting to cool on him and put Dareus ahead of him. Peterson still seems to be the most elite player of the draft as well as being the most consistent.

Trading down could work if there is a player we feel is worth the #2 overall pick that could be had later, but if we miss out on a guy just because we want to pick up an extra 4th, we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot.

ward63
02-13-2011, 06:08 PM
I was real high on Fairley for a while, and feel that DT is still a bigger need than corner, but something about Fairley worries me. I feel he has a significant bust factor that may or may not be warranted, plus some of the better draft guys are starting to cool on him and put Dareus ahead of him. Peterson still seems to be the most elite player of the draft as well as being the most consistent.

Trading down could work if there is a player we feel is worth the #2 overall pick that could be had later, but if we miss out on a guy just because we want to pick up an extra 4th, we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot.

If we trade out of #2, we are getting a 3rd at a bare min. I remember when the Browns traded up one spot to get Winslow Jr. and gave up a 2nd.

Broncoman13
02-13-2011, 06:37 PM
If we trade down and get Dareus I'll go so far to say as I'd be elastic.

Hahaha, I see what you did there.

OBF1
02-13-2011, 10:08 PM
Don't like your poll it's rigged to give you the result you want. You Must be a Democrat!
How about an option that says trade down get good value for the pick and still get a
good player with our pick.

Until someone is smart enough to come up a real trade scenerio, Not a, "I hope we get everything we want" BS type of comment....Like yours, I stay away from the dream trade down that never happens.

PS: When I want your opinion, I will give it to you.

listopencil
02-25-2011, 03:18 PM
Go get pizza.

bronclvr
02-25-2011, 03:36 PM
Why isn't there a Clarrett option?

SoDak Bronco
02-25-2011, 07:53 PM
Von Milla

oubronco
02-25-2011, 08:04 PM
Marcel Dareus

BroncoMan4ever
02-25-2011, 11:14 PM
i want us to trade down regardless of who is available to us. i don't see anyone worth the number 2 pick. There is no Suh in this draft, the only possibility worth the number 2 is Peterson......maybe, but i think we can trade back 3 or 4 spots and still get him. I would be interested in trading back a few slots and getting Von Miller, but i would prefer get completely out of the top 10

my dream scenario would be to trade out of the top 10 and get Stephen Paea and add another 2nd rounder.

Carmelo15
02-25-2011, 11:42 PM
my dream scenario would be to trade out of the top 10 and get Stephen Paea and add another 2nd rounder.

There's a good chance he'll be available in the 2nd round

ayjackson
02-26-2011, 08:55 AM
Trade back to 7-10 range, adding a 2nd in 2011 and a 2nd in 2012, and target:

1. Marcel Dareus, DT
2. Von Miller, SLB
3. Corey Luiget, DT
4. Akeem Ayers, SLB

Four excellent prospects at our two positions of biggest need in switching to a 4-3. (Well MLB might be the biggest need, but we`ll have to sign Niko off the street for that, or develop someone from the second or third round.)

razorwire77
02-26-2011, 11:17 AM
I say trade back to somewhere between spots 5-7. Net a 2nd rounder, and draft either Dareus or Peterson (Whichever player is available.) If we deal Orton for a 2nd too, 4 2nd round picks on front seven players would go a long way to shoring us up defensively. It would also give us the added flexibility to trade back into the first if necessary.

CEH
02-26-2011, 11:24 AM
How about a trade back with CLEV who comes up to draft AJ Green
We get a 3rd in '11 and a 2nd in '12 (Not getting greedy here) would rather have this type of trade then select at #2

At #6 when have a great selection of talent in Darues, Miller, Quinn, possibly Peterson depending on a QB going top 5

That gives us 5 picks in the first 70 players. We could do some serious damage to our Defense if we were to get picks in the first 70 and sign a S like OJ or Witner in FA

eddie mac
02-26-2011, 11:26 AM
Dareus just checked in at 6-3 319 there's no way he'll be there in the 5-10 range, infact I'd bet that Fairley, 2 inches shorter than his college height and 291 goes after Dareus.

Play2win
02-26-2011, 12:00 PM
Just take Dareus @2, and be done with it.

Arkie
02-26-2011, 12:06 PM
Where's the option of "trade down, ONLY if we don't get screwed"? If we trade down and stay in the top ten, it will be of good value.

GoBroncos84
02-26-2011, 12:07 PM
If we can move back and still get Dareus, that is ideal. If not, just draft Dareus at 2. That is my hope

Play2win
02-26-2011, 12:22 PM
If we can move back and still get Dareus, that is ideal. If not, just draft Dareus at 2. That is my hope

Sometimes simple things are simple. But, there always seems to be a need to over complex things.

CEH
02-26-2011, 01:20 PM
Sometimes simple things are simple. But, there always seems to be a need to over complex things.

Google , Twitter and Dareus. Simple yet genius

Play2win
02-26-2011, 02:09 PM
Google , Twitter and Dareus. Simple yet genius

The Trifecta ;D

doonwise
02-26-2011, 02:13 PM
We wouldn't even have to trade down, we could just let the clock wind down and pick whenever we wanted.

BroncoMan4ever
02-26-2011, 11:23 PM
There's a good chance he'll be available in the 2nd round

i kind of doubt it. he is ranked as the 3rd best DT behind Dareus and Fairley who are both expected to be gone by the 4th pick. With DT always being a big need in the NFL, i can easily see someone pulling the trigger on him in the top 15. In fact it would not surprise me to see a team doing some maneuvering to get him in the top half of the 1st. when teams see Dareus, and Fairley gone and then want the best of the rest, there will be a lot of interest.

BroncoMan4ever
02-26-2011, 11:29 PM
(Well MLB might be the biggest need, but we`ll have to sign Niko off the street for that, or develop someone from the second or third round.)

CASEY MATTHEWS!!!!!!

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1027/ncf_g_matthews11_576.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/226/024/caseymatthews_display_image.jpg?1273823403

http://imgsrv.955thegame.com/image/kxtg/UserFiles/Image/CaseyMatthews.jpg

NFLBRONCO
02-27-2011, 01:16 AM
My top 2 are

Dareus

Peterson

ayjackson
02-27-2011, 08:58 AM
CASEY MATTHEWS!!!!!!

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1027/ncf_g_matthews11_576.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/226/024/caseymatthews_display_image.jpg?1273823403

http://imgsrv.955thegame.com/image/kxtg/UserFiles/Image/CaseyMatthews.jpg

No to Niko, then?

Cito Pelon
02-27-2011, 11:27 AM
I say trade back to somewhere between spots 5-7. Net a 2nd rounder, and draft either Dareus or Peterson (Whichever player is available.) If we deal Orton for a 2nd too, 4 2nd round picks on front seven players would go a long way to shoring us up defensively. It would also give us the added flexibility to trade back into the first if necessary.

That would be a great scenario.

oubronco
02-27-2011, 12:37 PM
Dareus just checked in at 6-3 319 there's no way he'll be there in the 5-10 range, infact I'd bet that Fairley, 2 inches shorter than his college height and 291 goes after Dareus.

Exactly if they pass on Dareus it will be a mistake and I hope they are past making stupid decisions in the draft

eddie mac
02-28-2011, 08:36 AM
CASEY MATTHEWS!!!!!!

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1027/ncf_g_matthews11_576.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/226/024/caseymatthews_display_image.jpg?1273823403

http://imgsrv.955thegame.com/image/kxtg/UserFiles/Image/CaseyMatthews.jpg

He'd be the lower end of the top 5 MLB and this is the worst class in 20 years.

BroncoMan4ever
02-28-2011, 10:46 AM
He'd be the lower end of the top 5 MLB and this is the worst class in 20 years.

i know his rankings, but right now I would take anyone from those bloodlines.