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epicSocialism4tw
02-08-2011, 11:33 PM
The free agents out of Carolina this year all seem to be at positions that the Broncos need help in. Could they follow coach Fox into the Rocky Mountains?

Ryan Kalil C, Charles Johnson DE, Nick Hayden DT, James Anderson OLB, Thomas Davis OLB, DeAngelo Williams RB, Dante Rosario TE, Jeff King TE

Can we just graft this whole group into the Denver Broncos roster and call it an offseason? Thomas Davis might be done after 2 ACL tears, but if he comes back he would be a great player to have here.

Borks147
02-08-2011, 11:46 PM
in before smart-ass "yes that's brilliant, get players from the only team worse than the Broncos" comment

I wouldn't be shocked of they went after DeAngelo - Fox obviously likes the RBBC approach.

Don't know about Kalil - we're certainly not set at the position but we just put up a high-ish pick for Walton ast year and I'd like to see that develop.

Don't know enough about the other to make educated opinions...enlighten me, folks.

The free agents out of Carolina this year all seem to be at positions that the Broncos need help in. Could they follow coach Fox into the Rocky Mountains?

Ryan Kalil C, Charles Johnson DE, Nick Hayden DT, James Anderson OLB, Thomas Davis OLB, DeAngelo Williams RB, Dante Rosario TE, Jeff King TE

Can we just graft this whole group into the Denver Broncos roster and call it an offseason? Thomas Davis might be done after 2 ACL tears, but if he comes back he would be a great player to have here.

epicSocialism4tw
02-08-2011, 11:59 PM
in before smart-ass "yes that's brilliant, get players from the only team worse than the Broncos" comment

I wouldn't be shocked of they went after DeAngelo - Fox obviously likes the RBBC approach.

Don't know about Kalil - we're certainly not set at the position but we just put up a high-ish pick for Walton ast year and I'd like to see that develop.

Don't know enough about the other to make educated opinions...enlighten me, folks.

Kalil, Johnson, Anderson, and Davis are all exceptional players. The acquisition of any of them would improve the Broncos significantly. Kalil and Johnson are two rising stars. Davis is coming back from 2 ACL tears.

HAT
02-09-2011, 12:17 AM
Give me Kalil over Walton all day.

broncocalijohn
02-09-2011, 12:54 AM
The free agents out of Carolina this year all seem to be at positions that the Broncos need help in. Could they follow coach Fox into the Rocky Mountains?

Ryan Kalil C, Charles Johnson DE, Nick Hayden DT, James Anderson OLB, Thomas Davis OLB, DeAngelo Williams RB, Dante Rosario TE, Jeff King TE

Can we just graft this whole group into the Denver Broncos roster and call it an offseason? Thomas Davis might be done after 2 ACL tears, but if he comes back he would be a great player to have here.

Amazing those guys were the only ones on the Panthers that didnt suck. Unbelievable that the free agency list for the Panthers were the players that contributed and everyone else sucked. Great idea drama! At least McD went and got ****ty guys from a great team. While the list doesnt mean they suck like Maroney and I like Kalil as a former SC guy, you want our FO to order pizza from our inhouse delivery guy and sign 'em and call it a day? Why are you wasting your time on the Mane when you could be writing for bleacher report? I would look at no more than 2 from that group. Gold mine? Maybe a silver mine found in a zinc hole.

cutthemdown
02-09-2011, 01:05 AM
I don't really know those players very well. Williams I sort of like but I like Bush from Oak better for some reason.

epicSocialism4tw
02-09-2011, 01:21 AM
In his first year as a starter, DE Charles Johnson had 11 sacks and 62 tackles. He had 8 sacks the previous season. He's a stout, powerful guy who pushes the pocket and sets the edge. He's a star player on the rise.
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James Anderson is a big OLB - 6'2" 235 - who had 130 tackles, 4 sacks, and a pick last year in his first year as a starter.
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epicSocialism4tw
02-09-2011, 01:23 AM
Amazing those guys were the only ones on the Panthers that didnt suck. Unbelievable that the free agency list for the Panthers were the players that contributed and everyone else sucked. Great idea drama! At least McD went and got ****ty guys from a great team. While the list doesnt mean they suck like Maroney and I like Kalil as a former SC guy, you want our FO to order pizza from our inhouse delivery guy and sign 'em and call it a day? Why are you wasting your time on the Mane when you could be writing for bleacher report? I would look at no more than 2 from that group. Gold mine? Maybe a silver mine found in a zinc hole.

We sucked last year too. That doesnt mean that Elvis Dumervil, Champ Bailey, and Ryan Clady suck.

epicSocialism4tw
02-09-2011, 01:24 AM
These guys are climbing the ladder in Fox's defense. They'd come in here and not miss a beat.

However, they'll probably get paid more than we can afford.

The Joker
02-09-2011, 01:46 AM
Certainly expect we'll be looking at a few of these guys.

Johnson would be a great addition, but I can see him getting a very hefty contract somewhere and I'm not sure that Denver are going to be big spenders in FA this year.

I think Anderson is going to be looked at very closely. We'll need better linebackers if we're going back to 4-3, which is what I expect is the ultimate goal. Anderson would be very nice as a SOLB. Davis might be a good option too because teams won't offer him big money after his injury issues.

I don't think either of the TE's are anything to get excited about at all, Williams would be nice at RB but much will depend on his price tag. Kalil will stay in Carolina I expect, they'll probably franchise him.

Definitely think it's a nice situation though, we should be able to get a couple of starters out of them.

epicSocialism4tw
02-09-2011, 02:10 AM
Certainly expect we'll be looking at a few of these guys.

Johnson would be a great addition, but I can see him getting a very hefty contract somewhere and I'm not sure that Denver are going to be big spenders in FA this year.

I think Anderson is going to be looked at very closely. We'll need better linebackers if we're going back to 4-3, which is what I expect is the ultimate goal. Anderson would be very nice as a SOLB. Davis might be a good option too because teams won't offer him big money after his injury issues.

I don't think either of the TE's are anything to get excited about at all, Williams would be nice at RB but much will depend on his price tag. Kalil will stay in Carolina I expect, they'll probably franchise him.

Definitely think it's a nice situation though, we should be able to get a couple of starters out of them.

Johnson would be a huge take. It would alleviate the need to draft a DE. That guy setting the edge and letting Doom tee off from RDE would be awesome. I really dont see us being able to afford him, but he would be an excellent get in free agency.

If the Broncos could somehow trade Orton, snag Johnson, Anderson, Brandon Mebane, and then draft Patrick Peterson...look out. That's enough pieces to make this a dominant defense.

You rotate your DT's Mebane, Bannan, Marcus Thomas, and Jamal Williams.
You rotate your DE's Dumervil, Johnson, Ayers, Bannan
You put in the backfield DJ, Anderson, and Hunter.

That front 7 rotation kicks butt. It would play both phases fantastic and would have a chance to win the point of attack against every team they play.

The thought of a front four of Johnson/Mebane/Bannan/Dumervil is exciting. You wouldnt ever even have to blitz with that group.

Houshyamama
02-09-2011, 02:46 AM
Johnson would be a huge take. It would alleviate the need to draft a DE. That guy setting the edge and letting Doom tee off from RDE would be awesome. I really dont see us being able to afford him, but he would be an excellent get in free agency.

If the Broncos could somehow trade Orton, snag Johnson, Anderson, Brandon Mebane, and then draft Patrick Peterson...look out. That's enough pieces to make this a dominant defense.

You rotate your DT's Mebane, Bannan, Marcus Thomas, and Jamal Williams.
You rotate your DE's Dumervil, Johnson, Ayers, Bannan
You put in the backfield DJ, Anderson, and Hunter.

That front 7 rotation kicks butt. It would play both phases fantastic and would have a chance to win the point of attack against every team they play.

The thought of a front four of Johnson/Mebane/Bannan/Dumervil is exciting. You wouldnt ever even have to blitz with that group.

Bannan is a solid rotational player as is Marcus Thomas. Jamal Williams is over the hill. I don't know Mebane but even if he is a solid starter he'd be the only one.

This team needs to draft DT and bad, we really have no outstanding talent at that position. A rotation of Mebane, Bannan, Marcus Thomas, and Jamal Williams would give us the same mediocrity we've seen for the past decade.

dbfan21
02-09-2011, 06:16 AM
Bannan is a solid rotational player as is Marcus Thomas. Jamal Williams is over the hill. I don't know Mebane but even if he is a solid starter he'd be the only one.

This team needs to draft DT and bad, we really have no outstanding talent at that position. A rotation of Mebane, Bannan, Marcus Thomas, and Jamal Williams would give us the same mediocrity we've seen for the past decade.

QFT! My thoughts too.

footstepsfrom#27
02-09-2011, 06:43 AM
Sure why not...one man's trash is another's treasure.

vancejohnson82
02-09-2011, 06:50 AM
if we signed two TEs wouldnt we have about 27 on the roster? if we put them all into a blender we might have a solid starter

strafen
02-09-2011, 07:00 AM
We need to draft.
I guess we could use some of those players, and see who can help us, but that was McDaniels formula for success and we saw how that worked our...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-09-2011, 07:51 AM
We need to draft.
I guess we could use some of those players, and see who can help us, but that was McDaniels formula for success and we saw how that worked our...

We DO?

I thought, under this scenario, we would also give up all our draft choices.

The **** that comes out of your mouth is legendary in its stupidity.

As for the lineup, I like some of these guys. Getting that DE from Carolina would be a huge pickup, and I think the RB could have some success here in rotation. But honestly, that's all I see.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-09-2011, 08:19 AM
I think at running back I'd rather have Chester Taylor as a goal-line/short yardage back, as well as a breather for Moreno.

Moreno and Taylor? yes please.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/07/report-bears-to-release-chester-taylor/

JCMElway
02-09-2011, 08:21 AM
The free agents out of Carolina this year all seem to be at positions that the Broncos need help in. Could they follow coach Fox into the Rocky Mountains?

Ryan Kalil C, Charles Johnson DE, Nick Hayden DT, James Anderson OLB, Thomas Davis OLB, DeAngelo Williams RB, Dante Rosario TE, Jeff King TE

Can we just graft this whole group into the Denver Broncos roster and call it an offseason? Thomas Davis might be done after 2 ACL tears, but if he comes back he would be a great player to have here.

John Fox is tearing this team apart.

BroncoMan4ever
02-09-2011, 08:30 AM
in before smart-ass "yes that's brilliant, get players from the only team worse than the Broncos" comment

I wouldn't be shocked of they went after DeAngelo - Fox obviously likes the RBBC approach.

Don't know about Kalil - we're certainly not set at the position but we just put up a high-ish pick for Walton ast year and I'd like to see that develop.

Don't know enough about the other to make educated opinions...enlighten me, folks.

yeah the thought of bringing in a ton of guys from a team that is worse than you is oddly reminiscent of Shanahan bringing in the entire DL from the Browns.

i don't mind the RBBC but i think there are better options than the oft injured already taken quite a pounding Williams

and I agree about Walton, and I still want to see in Beadles has anything

BroncoMan4ever
02-09-2011, 08:31 AM
We need to draft.
I guess we could use some of those players, and see who can help us, but that was McDaniels formula for success and we saw how that worked our...

i don't mind a few stop gap players for a season or 2 until we get draft picks in line to take over. this team has far too many holes to fill them all with just draft picks.

jhns
02-09-2011, 08:49 AM
I wouldn't mind a few of these guys. That being said, I would bet most of these guys are going to be resigned unless I have missed them saying they don't want any of them. It is way too early to be looking at FA lists as the very large majority aren't really going anywhere(or aren't worth getting).

TheReverend
02-09-2011, 08:56 AM
Amazing those guys were the only ones on the Panthers that didnt suck. Unbelievable that the free agency list for the Panthers were the players that contributed and everyone else sucked. Great idea drama! At least McD went and got ****ty guys from a great team. While the list doesnt mean they suck like Maroney and I like Kalil as a former SC guy, you want our FO to order pizza from our inhouse delivery guy and sign 'em and call it a day? Why are you wasting your time on the Mane when you could be writing for bleacher report? I would look at no more than 2 from that group. Gold mine? Maybe a silver mine found in a zinc hole.

The majority of those guys are solid-very good and would be both great fits and upgrades here.

schaaf
02-09-2011, 08:57 AM
I would take 4 off that list and I think they could definitely help build a team

chadta
02-09-2011, 09:08 AM
The majority of those guys are solid-very good and would be both great fits and upgrades here.

we could fill a roster with Orangemane posters, and still upgrade half the positions.

oubronco
02-09-2011, 09:12 AM
Why not we can use all the help we can get

strafen
02-09-2011, 09:12 AM
i don't mind a few stop gap players for a season or 2 until we get draft picks in line to take over. this team has far too many holes to fill them all with just draft picks.We've only got 6 draft picks. Thanks McDaniels! Great job there stupid idiot!

We squandered so many draft picks in the last two years we could've been well ahead in the rebuilding process, and I'm talking primo draft choices.
But hey, we've got Moreno!!!
Anyway, it's going to be a long ride to the top!

Tombstone RJ
02-09-2011, 09:35 AM
The free agents out of Carolina this year all seem to be at positions that the Broncos need help in. Could they follow coach Fox into the Rocky Mountains?

Ryan Kalil C, Charles Johnson DE, Nick Hayden DT, James Anderson OLB, Thomas Davis OLB, DeAngelo Williams RB, Dante Rosario TE, Jeff King TE

Can we just graft this whole group into the Denver Broncos roster and call it an offseason? Thomas Davis might be done after 2 ACL tears, but if he comes back he would be a great player to have here.

Kinda reminds me of when the Broncos signed that fantastic FB off the Carolina roster... what was his name again? Oh yah--Howard Griffith!

enjolras
02-09-2011, 10:22 AM
Kinda reminds me of when the Broncos signed that fantastic FB off the Carolina roster... what was his name again? Oh yah--Howard Griffith!

Most underrated player in the history of football.

schaaf
02-09-2011, 10:53 AM
Most underrated player in the history of football.

He was the first Broncos player that I ever got an autograph from... I agree he was very underrated

Hamrob
02-09-2011, 12:57 PM
I haven't been on the "Peterson" at #2 bandwagon...but, if we signed Johnson in FA...I'd be o.k. with taking Peterson.

Johnson would cost us...and we probably wouldn't be able to sign him and resign Bailey too. Just stating the obvious...we don't have lots of doe.

But, if we could sign Johnson (who is a stud) and then draft Peterson and pick up a stud DT in the 2nd...that would be a nice haul.

Requiem
02-09-2011, 01:12 PM
Aw man, we only have six picks in a seven round draft.

Aw man, four of the pics are in the top seventy overall.

Aw man, **** you McDanielooskie!

KipCorrington25
02-09-2011, 08:25 PM
We sucked last year too. That doesnt mean that Elvis Dumervil, Champ Bailey, and Ryan Clady suck.

Good point, but it does mean Knowshow, Ayers, R. Quinn, and Orton do.

iforgotmypassword
02-10-2011, 12:25 AM
I wouldn't mind a few of these guys. That being said, I would bet most of these guys are going to be resigned unless I have missed them saying they don't want any of them. It is way too early to be looking at FA lists as the very large majority aren't really going anywhere(or aren't worth getting).

Not true! Carolina will likely be switching to a 3-4. I agree fulheartedly that this is a carolina gold mine. Never does a coach find a new team, and need players at the positions that were solid on his former team, and then have the option to sign a half dozen of them.

Kalil would be a bigger steal then people think.