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TonyR
02-01-2011, 09:17 AM
There has been curiously little coverage of Senator Rand Paul’s recent comments regarding foreign aid. Appearing with Wolf Blitzer on Wednesday night, he called for an end to foreign aid and, when challenged by Blitzer, twice confirmed that he would include Israel. That a United States Senator would call for eliminating aid to Israel is astonishing given the general consensus prevailing in Congress that the assistance is sacrosanct.

And considering that Israel is one of the wealthiest countries in the world (with a per capita income at the same level as Great Britain) and is alleged to be going through an economic boom, there is little justification for continuing the largesse, which is largely driven by domestic politics in any event. The argument that Israel needs the money to maintain its military edge is also a red herring as Tel Aviv currently enjoys complete military superiority in all areas over all of its potential opponents. It also has the Middle East’s only nuclear arsenal.

For his audacity, Senator Paul has been attacked by the Israel Lobby and by both Democrats and Republicans. Now that the Obama Administration is considering withholding the $2 billion that Egypt receives annually, a sum granted in 1979 when Sadat abandoned the Palestinians and signed a peace treaty with Israel, it would perhaps be a good opportunity to reexamine all US aid to the region.

http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/01/29/rand-paul-speaks/

Obushma
02-01-2011, 09:33 AM
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End all aid to Israel, and all other foreign nations...Sounds good to me.

Rigs11
02-01-2011, 09:41 AM
i gree as well,lets take care of our own before we take care of foreigners. Oh wait that's...socialism...ROFL!

Obushma
02-01-2011, 09:46 AM
i gree as well,lets take care of our own before we take care of foreigners. Oh wait that's...socialism...ROFL!

No it's not, Socialism is when you take from one person to give to another to equal the playing field. When we decide to feed our own people before supplying other nations with weapons, it's called Non-Interventionism (which is a word most boomers might have to look up) .

TonyR
02-01-2011, 09:56 AM
End all aid to Israel, and all other foreign nations...Sounds good to me.

I think you take it on a case by case basis, and cut most if not all, but I do fully agree with ending aid to Israel. I'm mainly curious to see if and how the neocons amongst us respond to this...

Obushma
02-01-2011, 10:06 AM
I think you take it on a case by case basis, and cut most if not all, but I do fully agree with ending aid to Israel. I'm mainly curious to see if and how the neocons amongst us respond to this...

It's not just going to be the neo-cons with the problem, neo-libs will have just as big of a problem with it. AIPAC has one of the biggest lobbyist groups in Washington, they are the plant equivalent of Morning Glory, destroying anything that gets in it's path and taking root all over the USA.

Boomhauer
02-01-2011, 10:32 AM
[I]There has been curiously little coverage of Senator Rand Paul’s recent comments regarding foreign aid. Appearing with Wolf Blitzer on Wednesday night, he called for an end to foreign aid and, when challenged by Blitzer, twice confirmed that he would include Israel.
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http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/01/29/rand-paul-speaks/

If he's willing to repeatedly say it straight to a Jew's face that spent the first twenty years of his journalistic career working for Israeli State media in various capacities, I don't doubt his sincerety.

cutthemdown
02-01-2011, 11:31 AM
One reason we spread money around is to keep other countries on the dollar. By having all these countries using and spending dollars it actually allows us to print said dollars and not get inflation. Name another country that can print 500 million, send it to another country, and get accolades for charity? For other countries that is not possible. If the Euro printed a ton of there currency like we do it would be worthless.

So there is more to giving money away then just being nice. People like Rand Paul just dont get the big picture.

Obushma
02-01-2011, 02:58 PM
One reason we spread money around is to keep other countries on the dollar. By having all these countries using and spending dollars it actually allows us to print said dollars and not get inflation. Name another country that can print 500 million, send it to another country, and get accolades for charity? For other countries that is not possible. If the Euro printed a ton of there currency like we do it would be worthless.

So there is more to giving money away then just being nice. People like Rand Paul just dont get the big picture.

Wow, that has got to be one of the most uninformed posts I've ever read. So, you believe the dollar holds more value because the Fed prints it up and sends it all over the world. Where if the EU's central bank just printed like we do, it would be worthless. Let me educate you.

The reason the dollar is the global currency is because oil is traded in the dollar, not because we print a lot of it, not because what we print out we send across the world, just because black gold is traded with it. It has NOTHING to do with the aid we send to foreign nations. ROFL!

epicSocialism4tw
02-01-2011, 03:28 PM
This is what the left does.

Present your agenda in extremes so that you can possibly get something in the middle instead.

Play2win
02-01-2011, 03:33 PM
One of the hardest things to fight in politics, or anything else, is the status quo.

cutthemdown
02-01-2011, 03:41 PM
We spread dollars around to keep the world using dollars for things like oil. It's all connected. The amount of aid so little its worth the influence peddling it buys. We are the only country that can get away with printing lots of money. Thats just a fact. Part of that is oil being traded in dollars but its also just because dollars are everywhere now. Its smart for us to give money to countries that help us.

Now when Indonesia has a tsunami buy all means no money. But its smart to try and help out south american countries, to buy influence from Brazil and Venezula, and even places like Indonesia really. Whatever though go ahead and follow rand paul trying to make people think we give a ton away to other countries. In the big picture not even that much. Also a lot of it in military hardware right? so that in reality is just like job stimulus for defense workers. Thats why no one wants to talk cut the defense budget which is where all the money is going.