PDA

View Full Version : Peyton Hillis taunted for being white


Pony Boy
01-28-2011, 12:52 PM
Peyton Hillis says teams taunted him for being white running back

"They'll say, 'You white boy, you ain't gonna run on us today"


Cleveland Browns RB Peyton Hillis said Wednesday that he encountered taunting this season because of his skin color.

Hills became the first white running back to rush for 1,000 since Craig James in 1985.

He told the Dan Patrick show (via the Canton Repository) that opposing teams trash-talked to him about his race on the field.

"Every team did it," he said. "They'll say, 'You white boy, you ain't gonna run on us today. This is ridiculous. Why are you giving offensive linemen the ball?'

"All kinds of stuff like that you hear on the field, but I use that to my advantage. I kind of soaked it in, ate it up a little bit, because I enjoyed it."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/01/peyton-hillis-says-teams-taunted-him-for-being-white-running-back/1?csp=obnetwork

Requiem
01-28-2011, 12:54 PM
Seems like the trash talk really got to him the final games of the season.

Karenin
01-28-2011, 01:10 PM
Who ****ing cares?

ghwk
01-28-2011, 01:11 PM
Sounds like we have a bunch of racists on the defensive side of the ball. Could you imagine the uproar if Urlacher yelled at LT 'Hey black boy, you ain't running on us today". Seems like some sensitivity training is in order.

PRBronco
01-28-2011, 01:12 PM
Who ****ing cares?

Lol seriously. Someone post that stand up bit from Louis CK about being white. I bet they also taunted him for being rich and in good health.

beanerbronco
01-28-2011, 01:15 PM
What do you think the first African American players had to face?
Exactly!

Kaylore
01-28-2011, 01:16 PM
I hate Josh McDaniels! Cutler RoolZZZ!!!!

Gort
01-28-2011, 01:17 PM
Peyton Hillis says teams taunted him for being white running back

"They'll say, 'You white boy, you ain't gonna run on us today"


Cleveland Browns RB Peyton Hillis said Wednesday that he encountered taunting this season because of his skin color.

Hills became the first white running back to rush for 1,000 since Craig James in 1985.

He told the Dan Patrick show (via the Canton Repository) that opposing teams trash-talked to him about his race on the field.

"Every team did it," he said. "They'll say, 'You white boy, you ain't gonna run on us today. This is ridiculous. Why are you giving offensive linemen the ball?'

"All kinds of stuff like that you hear on the field, but I use that to my advantage. I kind of soaked it in, ate it up a little bit, because I enjoyed it."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/01/peyton-hillis-says-teams-taunted-him-for-being-white-running-back/1?csp=obnetwork

breaking news...

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are rushing to Cleveland to stage a protest.

wait.

what?

nevermind.

Taco John
01-28-2011, 01:17 PM
I HATE JOSH MCDANIELS! HILLIS ROOLZZZ!

epicSocialism4tw
01-28-2011, 01:18 PM
White people are clearly evil and need to be contained by things like political correctness.

razorwire77
01-28-2011, 01:19 PM
Peyton Hillis says teams taunted him for being white running back

"Why are you giving offensive linemen the ball?'



teh funny.

worm
01-28-2011, 01:22 PM
Just another example of keeping whitie down.

Que
01-28-2011, 01:22 PM
That should be our white boy getting taunted....

bronco militia
01-28-2011, 01:23 PM
http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/LOL-RACIST.jpg

Mile High Shack
01-28-2011, 01:24 PM
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TG4f9zR5yzY" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

Bronco Boy
01-28-2011, 01:25 PM
This was posted like 3 weeks ago.

Kaylore
01-28-2011, 01:25 PM
http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/LOL-RACIST.jpg

:rofl:

schaaf
01-28-2011, 01:28 PM
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs235.ash2/50500_370002266517_6759638_n.jpg

gyldenlove
01-28-2011, 01:34 PM
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/ZforHill/obamawhiteydown.jpg

Gcver2ver3
01-28-2011, 01:38 PM
Sounds like we have a bunch of racists on the defensive side of the ball. Could you imagine the uproar if Urlacher yelled at LT 'Hey black boy, you ain't running on us today". Seems like some sensitivity training is in order.

i think a more apples to apples comparison would be Urlacher antagonizing a black quarterback for not being able to pass the ball on the defense because of his skin color...

Pony Boy
01-28-2011, 01:55 PM
This was posted like 3 weeks ago.

party pooper................ don't you know there are no stinking rules when it comes to Hillis threads.

Broncos_OTM
01-28-2011, 02:15 PM
Who ****ing cares?

Because if it was a minority it would have jesse jackson al sharpton and the NAACP picketing the NFL. Its cool to play the race card when your skin colour comes into equation. unless you're white then its a non issue.

Broncos_OTM
01-28-2011, 02:18 PM
What do you think the first African American players had to face?
Exactly!

Its 2011 bro equality has been around for some time.

jhns
01-28-2011, 02:22 PM
I would laugh if everyone started screaming racism and then found out most of these taunts were from white defenders. I'm white and I make white RB jokes.

Anyways, you should all realize that the minorities in the NFL were victims of slavery. Hillis is white so he was most likely a slave owner. This is why racism only counts when not directed at whitey.

Pony Boy
01-28-2011, 02:26 PM
Its 2011 bro equality has been around for some time.

Exactly.... if it's ok to have butt-sex in the military, it's ok to be a white running back......can't we all just get along?

Karenin
01-28-2011, 02:46 PM
Because if it was a minority it would have jesse jackson al sharpton and the NAACP picketing the NFL. Its cool to play the race card when your skin colour comes into equation. unless you're white then its a non issue.

Are you ****ing retarded? That's a rhetorical question, don't bother answering.

OBF1
01-28-2011, 02:50 PM
I just can not believe how many posters can not seem to get the taste of hillis man juice out of their pieholes and just move on. This place is worse than freekin romper room.

bowtown
01-28-2011, 02:56 PM
I just can not believe how many posters can not seem to get the taste of hillis man juice out of their pieholes and just move on. This place is worse than freekin romper room.

Reverse racist. You make BF7 sick.

loborugger
01-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Reverse racist.

Hillis is white? Did someone tell the OM?

Bronco Yoda
01-28-2011, 03:02 PM
CBF told me he's too awesome to be White. I have to go with that.

Play2win
01-28-2011, 03:05 PM
CBF told me he's too awesome to be White. I have to go with that.

Thats why he's really not just white, he's Albino... ;D

Pony Boy
01-28-2011, 03:06 PM
I just can not believe how many posters can not seem to get the taste of hillis man juice out of their pieholes and just move on. This place is worse than freekin romper room.

Is there a "Popps echo" in here?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-28-2011, 03:08 PM
Because if it was a minority it would have jesse jackson al sharpton and the NAACP picketing the NFL. Its cool to play the race card when your skin colour comes into equation. unless you're white then its a non issue.

Doubtful, especially if the news came directly from the minority's mouth.

Old news is old.

This was said on a sports talk radio show by the player who said he was being harassed for his skin color, when asked SPECIFICALLY if he'd ever encountered any trash talk based on his skin color. It could have come from every team in the league, or it could have come from one guy on one team. Or it could have come from the writer or director of White Men Can't Jump.

LOLZ SUMWUN CALL DA RAYC POLEEC!

Broncos_OTM
01-28-2011, 03:15 PM
Are you ****ing retarded? That's a rhetorical question, don't bother answering.

About as retarded as your comment.

Pony Boy
01-28-2011, 03:20 PM
They don't call him the "White Winnebago" for nothing........

Dedhed
01-28-2011, 03:24 PM
Sounds like we have a bunch of racists on the defensive side of the ball. Could you imagine the uproar if Urlacher yelled at LT 'Hey black boy, you ain't running on us today". Seems like some sensitivity training is in order.

Yeah, I'm sure there's never been a comment like that on a football field before.

Dedhed
01-28-2011, 03:31 PM
Gotta take the good with the bad.
Does he really deserve all the hype for matching the production of BenJarvis Green-Ellis?

Dr. Broncenstein
01-28-2011, 03:33 PM
http://item.slide.com/r/1/280/i/oB4wBvM-mD8n4ptUobL-G2tWGNYlwjvZ/

Jay3
01-28-2011, 03:36 PM
Sounds like we have a bunch of racists on the defensive side of the ball. Could you imagine the uproar if Urlacher yelled at LT 'Hey black boy, you ain't running on us today". Seems like some sensitivity training is in order.

Worst racial taunt of all time.

Karenin
01-28-2011, 03:41 PM
About as retarded as your comment.

Unsurprisingly, you don't know what rhetorical means.

extralife
01-28-2011, 03:44 PM
you guys are so stupid lol

Steve Sewell
01-28-2011, 03:45 PM
Sounds like we have a bunch of racists on the defensive side of the ball. Could you imagine the uproar if Urlacher yelled at LT 'Hey black boy, you ain't running on us today". Seems like some sensitivity training is in order.

Hahaha...

If I were him I'd say "If you don't like this white boy runnin' on you, why don't you black boys try to stop me?"

ghwk
01-28-2011, 03:59 PM
i think a more apples to apples comparison would be Urlacher antagonizing a black quarterback for not being able to pass the ball on the defense because of his skin color...

Ok, I'll buy that.

errand
01-28-2011, 04:06 PM
What do you think the first African American players had to face?
Exactly!

Ah...get evenism rears it's ugly head...it's not enough that blacks had to endure it, but whites need to as well as punishment for something that happened decades ago.

So you're saying racial slurs and racism is ok as long as it's done to certain races? How about this novel idea...if you're gonna bitch about racism, bitch about anyone who perpetuates it, regardless of their skin color.

That One Guy
01-28-2011, 04:14 PM
I would laugh if everyone started screaming racism and then found out most of these taunts were from white defenders. I'm white and I make white RB jokes.

Anyways, you should all realize that the minorities in the NFL were victims of slavery. Hillis is white so he was most likely a slave owner. This is why racism only counts when not directed at whitey.

How ****ing old are these guys?

Gort
01-28-2011, 04:35 PM
Gotta take the good with the bad.
Does he really deserve all the hype for matching the production of BenJarvis Green-Ellis?

no.

but this is a guy who wasn't even good enough to get on the field under McD and who was an afterthought throw-in on the Brady Quinn trade. when given a chance under Shanny and Mangini, he ran like a man possessed until teams started specifically game-planning against him.

he reminds me of the kind of guy who would have played back in the 50's. without a face mask. and you wouldn't have had to wonder if he was pulling himself out of a game because he hurt his mangina - cough - Cutler - cough - so that's why we still talk about him and will always talk about him on here. he'll become mytholigical eventually and grandparents will tell their grandchildren, "huddle close children... i remember seeing the Albino Winnebago play his rookie year with the Broncos". and the children will get wide eyed and hushed...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3314/3622247745_9a3e72e0d2.jpg

HILife
01-28-2011, 06:00 PM
This sounds familiar.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=96596

I mean from what I hear, he is the white rhino.

HILife
01-28-2011, 06:02 PM
Lol seriously. Someone post that stand up bit from Louis CK about being white. I bet they also taunted him for being rich and in good health.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TG4f9zR5yzY" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
01-28-2011, 06:05 PM
Obama!

HILife
01-28-2011, 06:07 PM
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TG4f9zR5yzY" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

Damn, bet me.

HILife
01-28-2011, 06:14 PM
Exactly.... if it's ok to have butt-sex in the military, it's ok to be a white running back......can't we all just get along?

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0901/buttseck-surprise-life-party-demotivational-poster-1230841832.jpg

http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/ad3c0218_7ba6_e5bc.jpg

Jason in LA
01-28-2011, 06:19 PM
<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TG4f9zR5yzY" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

As a black guy, I have to say, that was awesome!!!! And he is exactly right. Two points he made. He said that he's not saying that white people are better, but it's clearly better to be white. lol. That's exactly true. The other point he made was that one day white folks are going to have to pay one day. Well, I wouldn't say that white folks are going to have to pay for it, but that was funny. White folks complain about political correctness, but come on yall. It must be nice. ;D

schaaf
01-28-2011, 06:20 PM
As a black guy, I have to say, that was awesome!!!! And he is exactly right. Two points he made. He said that he's not saying that white people are better, but it's clearly better to be white. lol. That's exactly true. The other point he made was that one day white folks are going to have to pay one day. Well, I wouldn't say that white folks are going to have to pay for it, but that was funny. White folks complain about political correctness, but come on yall. It must be nice. ;D

I don't know, I would sure appreciate a scholarship where you would have to be white to apply for

Jason in LA
01-28-2011, 06:22 PM
I would laugh if everyone started screaming racism and then found out most of these taunts were from white defenders. I'm white and I make white RB jokes.


Larry Bird was offended when a white player defended him, and he let the white player know. I always thought that was funny.

BroncoBuff
01-28-2011, 06:26 PM
I suppose this topic is worth a thread ... but I'd rather read about Baja running into Josh McDaniels fishing.

Jason in LA
01-28-2011, 06:30 PM
I don't know, I would sure appreciate a scholarship where you would have to be white to apply for

Yeah, sorry man. Blame that on your forefathers. ;D

TDmvp
01-28-2011, 06:31 PM
As a black guy, I have to say, that was awesome!!!! And he is exactly right. Two points he made. He said that he's not saying that white people are better, but it's clearly better to be white. lol. That's exactly true. The other point he made was that one day white folks are going to have to pay one day. Well, I wouldn't say that white folks are going to have to pay for it, but that was funny. White folks complain about political correctness, but come on yall. It must be nice. ;D

great post ...

And as a white guy I thought it was damn funny as well because of the whole time machine reference and as far as we have came in the whole race debate it's still obvious in some cases white is just easier to get along as.


Being adopted and knowing nothing about my race makes it easy tho for me to hate all races equally LOL and I think race is way over rated , we should get over it already...

We all fear the same stuff and feel love the same way so I never got why the paint job matters...

schaaf
01-28-2011, 06:33 PM
Yeah, sorry man. Blame that on your forefathers. ;D

haha damn them!!

You have no idea how frustrated it was to have to throw out about half the scholarship applications because you are white :giggle:

listopencil
01-28-2011, 10:03 PM
"This is ridiculous. Why are you giving offensive linemen the ball?"


C'mon. That's funny.


"All kinds of stuff like that you hear on the field, but I use that to my advantage. I kind of soaked it in, ate it up a little bit, because I enjoyed it."


Sounds like it didn't bother him. This is a non story.

footstepsfrom#27
01-28-2011, 10:39 PM
haha damn them!!

You have no idea how frustrated it was to have to throw out about half the scholarship applications because you are white :giggle:
Well when we get serious about equalizing educational opportunity in this country we can do away with that. Meantime, we've got a public school system that is more segregated in major cities than it was before Brown vs. Board of Education. These urban schools suck, and some shouldn't even be called schools.

Bronco Yoda
01-28-2011, 11:23 PM
As a black guy, I have to say, that was awesome!!!! And he is exactly right. Two points he made. He said that he's not saying that white people are better, but it's clearly better to be white. lol. That's exactly true. The other point he made was that one day white folks are going to have to pay one day. Well, I wouldn't say that white folks are going to have to pay for it, but that was funny. White folks complain about political correctness, but come on yall. It must be nice. ;D

I'm not gonna lie to you it is! ;D
I get the best tables at Dennys, free extra scoop of ice cream at Dairy Cream on Saturdays... And they don't even charge me sales tax at Walmart sometimes. It's a nice gig if you can get born into it. :giggle:

Jason in LA
01-29-2011, 08:33 AM
I'm not gonna lie to you it is! ;D
I get the best tables at Dennys, free extra scoop of ice cream at Dairy Cream on Saturdays... And they don't even charge me sales tax at Walmart sometimes. It's a nice gig if you can get born into it. :giggle:

I knew it!

<object width="512" height="288"><param name="movie" value="http://www.hulu.com/embed/pHudtlffrTOOdU5Iz87YEg"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.hulu.com/embed/pHudtlffrTOOdU5Iz87YEg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="512" height="288" allowFullScreen="true"></embed></object>

That's alright, because we in the White House!

<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MwGtNzHwSnc" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

Punisher
01-29-2011, 08:42 AM
"They'll say, 'You white boy, you ain't gonna run on us today"


lmao!

Cito Pelon
01-29-2011, 09:43 AM
"Look at that little monkey run!"

HILife
01-29-2011, 10:33 AM
I knew it!

That's alright, because we in the White House!

<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MwGtNzHwSnc" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

I've seen that video. Song of the year!

Cito Pelon
01-29-2011, 11:18 AM
Yeah, sorry man. Blame that on your forefathers. ;D

I've never been a fan of racism, particularly against me . . . . . however, turnaround is fair play, what goes around comes around, you reap what you sow. And so on, and so on . . . .

Blart
01-29-2011, 11:46 AM
About half of the replies on OM could have easily appeared on StormFront. Oh what's this? They have their own Peyton Hillis thread, hahahha

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t763488/

That One Guy
01-29-2011, 02:40 PM
Well when we get serious about equalizing educational opportunity in this country we can do away with that. Meantime, we've got a public school system that is more segregated in major cities than it was before Brown vs. Board of Education. These urban schools suck, and some shouldn't even be called schools.

come on... Keep the thread light and leave that in WRP. We've danced that dance before and inner city garbage is still the same populace it was then. This one is about Hillis not an NAACP member drive.

That One Guy
01-29-2011, 02:44 PM
About half of the replies on OM could have easily appeared on StormFront. Oh what's this? They have their own Peyton Hillis thread, hahahha

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t763488/

Apparently that's a white power organization site... Now I know.

Jason in LA
01-29-2011, 03:45 PM
I've seen that video. Song of the year!

I'm the head of the motha ****in' State ****a! I brought you change ****a what you think ****a.

:spit:

I laughed so hard when I heard that.

epicSocialism4tw
01-29-2011, 03:49 PM
Well when we get serious about equalizing educational opportunity in this country we can do away with that. Meantime, we've got a public school system that is more segregated in major cities than it was before Brown vs. Board of Education. These urban schools suck, and some shouldn't even be called schools.

You're going to have to throw out modern publicly funded education to equalize access to resources.

Its just impossible to provide the poor in these districts with the resources they need.

Vouchers, vouchers, vouchers. Throw the districting garbage out.

Cito Pelon
01-29-2011, 04:23 PM
Paybacks can be a bitch. I saw this in this US Army when there was about 60-65% African-Americans. Oh boy, whitey (me) saw what it was like when the shoe was on the other foot. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

Gort
01-29-2011, 04:30 PM
That's alright, because we in the White House!

Obama is descended from several slave owners.

he is not descended from a single slave.

yet somehow he's vindication for something that began and ended long before anyone who voted for him was born?

i don't understand this at all.

Popps
01-29-2011, 04:35 PM
Yaaaaaaay white people! YAY!

schaaf
01-29-2011, 04:58 PM
Obama is descended from several slave owners.

he is not descended from a single slave.

yet somehow he's vindication for something that began and ended long before anyone who voted for him was born?

i don't understand this at all.

I'm sure that every person who voted for him did some research on his views and his beliefs, and then made their decision ROFL!

maher_tyler
01-29-2011, 06:06 PM
Sounds like we have a bunch of racists on the defensive side of the ball. Could you imagine the uproar if Urlacher yelled at LT 'Hey black boy, you ain't running on us today". Seems like some sensitivity training is in order.

Exactly! It's BS!

Cito Pelon
01-29-2011, 06:22 PM
Obama is descended from several slave owners.

he is not descended from a single slave.

yet somehow he's vindication for something that began and ended long before anyone who voted for him was born?

i don't understand this at all.

What?

Jason in LA
01-29-2011, 06:27 PM
come on... Keep the thread light.

This thread is pretty funny. Usually race threads turn into a war, so being able to joke about the subject is pretty fun.

I do have a question, since we're on the race topic. What's the deal with mayonnaise? I can't stand the stuff... but I have BBQ sauce daily. :afro:

cutthemdown
01-29-2011, 06:34 PM
Hillis next yr will end up sharing the load, when his contract is up, he wont get a big offer from browns. Next yr he will go way to high in fantasy drafts and be one of the big busts.

He's destined for 600 yrds rushing 300 receiving and 7-10 tds. Nothing too exciting. He won't be a bad football player just I think the rookie who got hurt this yr gets carries next yr.

LonghornBronco
01-29-2011, 06:50 PM
Anyways, you should all realize that the minorities in the NFL were victims of slavery.

They where?

Vegas_Bronco
01-29-2011, 06:51 PM
Unless you are on the oline or the qb, I think we can all agree that their are those.immature 'nfl brotherhoods' that do everything they can to keep one of their own on the field when faced with the choice. It isn't as bad now as it was in the 1990s but It truly happens regardless of whether you like it or not. Racism is part of group identity and herd mentality...not always a negative thing. Funny thing is that it has nothing at all to do with the success of the team or the nfl. I think it is great to see a white guy at the RB position and a black guy at QB ...nothing wrong withit at all and most mature individuals know that it is admirable b/c it is unusual in the nfl.

Cito Pelon
01-29-2011, 07:10 PM
This thread is pretty funny. Usually race threads turn into a war, so being able to joke about the subject is pretty fun.

I do have a question, since we're on the race topic. What's the deal with mayonnaise? I can't stand the stuff... but I have BBQ sauce daily. :afro:

Yeah, attack the French, that always brings us together.

schaaf
01-29-2011, 07:13 PM
Yeah, attack the French, that always brings us together.

This.

**** the French.

They're pussies

strafen
01-29-2011, 07:15 PM
Hillis next yr will end up sharing the load, when his contract is up, he wont get a big offer from browns. Next yr he will go way to high in fantasy drafts and be one of the big busts.

He's destined for 600 yrds rushing 300 receiving and 7-10 tds. Nothing too exciting. He won't be a bad football player just I think the rookie who got hurt this yr gets carries next yr.That sounds to me like a lot of wishful thinking on your part more than being even close to what the reality might be...
Dream on...

Cito Pelon
01-29-2011, 07:25 PM
This thread is pretty funny. Usually race threads turn into a war, so being able to joke about the subject is pretty fun.

I do have a question, since we're on the race topic. What's the deal with mayonnaise? I can't stand the stuff... but I have BBQ sauce daily. :afro:

BBQ sauce daily, yeah, right. You're not serious, are you? That's like bubba territory. I thought you were a progressive LA kind of guy. Scaloppini and chianti kind of guy.

cutthemdown
01-29-2011, 07:27 PM
That sounds to me like a lot of wishful thinking on your part more than being even close to what the reality might be...
Dream on...

ok I said what under 1000 combined yrds and less the 10 tds. IMO thats right about what he will come in at. Not like its a hater prediction saying he wont be at all productive. It's a prediction saying the browns saw how teams shut him down as he wore down. They will limit his carries and bring the rookie Montario Hardesty into the picture for about 100 carries or so.

A very well thought out and plausible prediction IMO. Not surprised though at the poor reaction that shows more low football acumen on the mane.

Karenin
01-29-2011, 07:38 PM
Obama is descended from several slave owners.

he is not descended from a single slave.

yet somehow he's vindication for something that began and ended long before anyone who voted for him was born?

i don't understand this at all.

It's amazing how similar some of the stuff you read on here is to some of the stuff on that Stormfront website that was linked earlier.

Great job, mods!

ghwk
01-29-2011, 09:34 PM
This thread is pretty funny. Usually race threads turn into a war, so being able to joke about the subject is pretty fun.

I do have a question, since we're on the race topic. What's the deal with mayonnaise? I can't stand the stuff... but I have BBQ sauce daily. :afro:

I like them both. Watermelon too, can't get enough of that!

epicSocialism4tw
01-29-2011, 09:41 PM
This thread is pretty funny. Usually race threads turn into a war, so being able to joke about the subject is pretty fun.

I do have a question, since we're on the race topic. What's the deal with mayonnaise? I can't stand the stuff... but I have BBQ sauce daily. :afro:

I eat fried chicken po'boys stacked with greens, watermelon, and topped with BBQ. Gotta have the grape soda to wash it down. Grape kool-aid for the kids. They arent touching the fanta.

Gort
01-29-2011, 10:10 PM
It's amazing how similar some of the stuff you read on here is to some of the stuff on that Stormfront website that was linked earlier.

Great job, mods!

wow. you're kind of a douche, aren't you? if you're trying to imply something unsavory about me, you failed.

during the 2008 election, as they do for all candidates, some prominent genealogists researched both sides of Obama's and McCain's families.

it's an indisputable fact that Obama is descended from some slave owners on his mother's side and his father's side is African (Kenyan) and does not include any descent from American blacks who might have had slave ancestors.

that blacks in America see him as somehow one of them or that his election is any sort of former-slave-made-good story is absurd.

Obama said in his own book that he's not comfortable with the idea of being American. he identifies much more strongly with the marxist, anti-colonialist philosophies of his Kenyan father. in short, he has more in common with Robert Mugabe than Booker T Washington.

but i guess facts don't matter for some people so long as they have a nice poster that says HOPE on it.

strafen
01-29-2011, 10:17 PM
ok I said what under 1000 combined yrds and less the 10 tds. IMO thats right about what he will come in at. Not like its a hater prediction saying he wont be at all productive. It's a prediction saying the browns saw how teams shut him down as he wore down. They will limit his carries and bring the rookie Montario Hardesty into the picture for about 100 carries or so.

A very well thought out and plausible prediction IMO. Not surprised though at the poor reaction that shows more low football acumen on the mane.Until the Browns make an attempt to strenghten their passing game, Hillis will continue to be their feature weapon carrying the ball on offense
One way or another, they will keep getting him the ball.

To say Hillis will have less than 1000 yards combined is ludicrous.
Hillis is coming off 1654 combined yards and 13 total TD's in his first full-season as a pro.
I'm trying to understand why you think Cleveland would want to get away from that...

cutthemdown
01-29-2011, 11:39 PM
Until the Browns make an attempt to strenghten their passing game, Hillis will continue to be their feature weapon carrying the ball on offense
One way or another, they will keep getting him the ball.

To say Hillis will have less than 1000 yards combined is ludicrous.
Hillis is coming off 1654 combined yards and 13 total TD's in his first full-season as a pro.
I'm trying to understand why you think Cleveland would want to get away from that...

because by end of the yr he was ineffective. Also Hardesty a talented player they will want to use him. You will be one of those people thinking his numbers will go up that is fine.

Its very realistic to lose 600 yrds and a few tds when you play RB and are a plodder like Hillis. He had some monster games but teams started keying on him and he wore down. Browns will look to get other rbs involved.

ZONA
01-29-2011, 11:56 PM
What do you think the first African American players had to face?
Exactly!

Far worse then Hillis being called a white boy. They had real hate mail, death threats directly to them as well as fellow players for playing beside them, things being thrown at them.

You know, kinda like what you at every Raiders home game. ROFL!

footstepsfrom#27
01-30-2011, 12:15 AM
that blacks in America see him as somehow one of them or that his election is any sort of former-slave-made-good story is absurd.
By "one of them" I take it you mean "black". I guess I must have missed the part where he's somehow not black since he's not descended from slaves, along with the other part where he claims he was a former slave. That is what you meant by characterizing him as pretending to be a "former slave made good" right?

BTW...being "anti-colonialism" is a good thing.

extralife
01-30-2011, 12:53 AM
no way man without colonialism I couldn't be a privileged, paranoid, unoriginal, slovenly malcontent on the internet!

Hotwheelz
01-30-2011, 01:26 AM
Call me when white people are being auctioned to minorities.

<iframe title="Penis video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TG4f9zR5yzY" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

Karenin
01-30-2011, 06:12 AM
wow. you're kind of a douche, aren't you? if you're trying to imply something unsavory about me, you failed.

during the 2008 election, as they do for all candidates, some prominent genealogists researched both sides of Obama's and McCain's families.

it's an indisputable fact that Obama is descended from some slave owners on his mother's side and his father's side is African (Kenyan) and does not include any descent from American blacks who might have had slave ancestors.

that blacks in America see him as somehow one of them or that his election is any sort of former-slave-made-good story is absurd.

Obama said in his own book that he's not comfortable with the idea of being American. he identifies much more strongly with the marxist, anti-colonialist philosophies of his Kenyan father. in short, he has more in common with Robert Mugabe than Booker T Washington.

but i guess facts don't matter for some people so long as they have a nice poster that says HOPE on it.

Wow. Seriously man, take it here:

www.stormfront.org/forum

They probably already have a thread for whatever it is you're babbling about.

TheReverend
01-30-2011, 07:14 AM
Call me when white people are being auctioned to minorities.

<iframe title="Penis video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TG4f9zR5yzY" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

The Jews are doubling over laughing at your post.

Pony Boy
01-30-2011, 07:31 AM
Hillis next yr will end up sharing the load, when his contract is up, he wont get a big offer from browns. Next yr he will go way to high in fantasy drafts and be one of the big busts.

He's destined for 600 yrds rushing 300 receiving and 7-10 tds. Nothing too exciting. He won't be a bad football player just I think the rookie who got hurt this yr gets carries next yr.

The fans know what Hillis can do and if the new coach holds him to 600 yds Cleveland will look like Egypt.

Jason in LA
01-30-2011, 09:32 AM
BBQ sauce daily, yeah, right. You're not serious, are you? That's like bubba territory. I thought you were a progressive LA kind of guy. Scaloppini and chianti kind of guy.

I'd say I am of high class. Slacks and button down shirts on the daily and I'm often wearing a suit, even when it's not required. Yes, I am that damn important. ;D

But BBQ sauce if the business. I eat chicken breast daily, usually broiled. BBQ sauce goes great with it.

Jason in LA
01-30-2011, 09:47 AM
I eat fried chicken po'boys stacked with greens, watermelon, and topped with BBQ. Gotta have the grape soda to wash it down. Grape kool-aid for the kids. They arent touching the fanta.

There was an episode of the Jeffersons where George brought a watermelon home and he brought it in under his coat so his neighbor, the white guy (I forgot his name), wouldn't say anything. He said that he didn't want to hear the white guy comment on blacks eating watermelon.

A while back a white family moved in next door to my parents house. So I'm bringing in a watermelon from my mother's car, and the white guy is standing on his porch. He looks at me, smiles, and was like "Yeeeeaaaaah, wathermelon." I smiled back but was thinking "asshole". He was a cool guy though, so I didn't really think much of it.

The only reason why I don't eat fried chicken often is because I don't want to gain a lot of weight or have a heart attack. But the stuff is good.

As for Kool Aid, I drank that everyday growing up. One day my mother bought some Tang, but nobody drank it, so it was right back to Kool Aid.

vancejohnson82
01-30-2011, 09:48 AM
I'd say I am of high class. Slacks and button down shirts on the daily and I'm often wearing a suit, even when it's not required. Yes, I am that damn important. ;D

But BBQ sauce if the business. I eat chicken breast daily, usually broiled. BBQ sauce goes great with it.

If I knew how to post YouTube links this would be a perfect time for the Chappelle "Chicken" routine.

"Cmon, buddy...as soon as you came in here everyone knew you was ordering the CHICKEN"

Jason in LA
01-30-2011, 09:58 AM
If I knew how to post YouTube links this would be a perfect time for the Chappelle "Chicken" routine.

"Cmon, buddy...as soon as you came in here everyone knew you was ordering the CHICKEN"


<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wJ4B7G8Rw3Q" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

To post a video, under the video click the "embed" tab, copy the text and paste it here.

Gort
01-30-2011, 10:05 AM
By "one of them" I take it you mean "black". I guess I must have missed the part where he's somehow not black since he's not descended from slaves, along with the other part where he claims he was a former slave. That is what you meant by characterizing him as pretending to be a "former slave made good" right?

BTW...being "anti-colonialism" is a good thing.

doesn't matter to me. but to people like Jackson and Sharpton, Obama is not considered "one of them" because he didn't come up through the civil rights movement. though alot of blacks don't make that distinction, the people who have their power because of their "civil rights" history certainly do. Jesse Jackson even said on TV into an open mic (that he didn't know was open) that he couldn't stand Obama and wanted to cut his nuts off.

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-07-09/politics/jesse.jackson.comment_1_obama-campaign-jesse-jackson-black-voters?_s=PM:POLITICS

i would dispute the idea that being anti-colonial is a good thing. if you have a superificial understanding of colonialism, you may think so. but India benefitted hugely from their colonial days in the British Empire. it's also useful to note that the USA was NEVER a colonial power. that fact is not well understood today. but we were too preoccupied with westward expansion to get involved in establishing overseas outposts.

Gort
01-30-2011, 10:09 AM
Wow. Seriously man, take it here:

www.stormfront.org/forum

They probably already have a thread for whatever it is you're babbling about.

you're not a person to be taken seriously. in days gone by, you'd be the village fool falling off brick walls for the entertainment of the other villagers.

Gort
01-30-2011, 10:10 AM
Call me when white people are being auctioned to minorities.


read up on the barbary coast pirates.

Karenin
01-30-2011, 01:24 PM
you're not a person to be taken seriously. in days gone by, you'd be the village fool falling off brick walls for the entertainment of the other villagers.

cool story. in the days gone by, you'd be the one stringing black people up from trees because they looked at your daughter the wrong way.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-30-2011, 01:41 PM
About half of the replies on OM could have easily appeared on StormFront. Oh what's this? They have their own Peyton Hillis thread, hahahha

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t763488/

Which one of those ol' boys is JohnGalt, and which one is Llama?

Karenin
01-30-2011, 01:46 PM
IAmJohnGault or whatever his name is, is probably a moderator at that site. At least someone with >50,000 posts.

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 01:55 PM
IAmJohnGault or whatever his name is, is probably a moderator at that site. At least someone with >50,000 posts.

You wouldn't know racism if it kicked you in the dick yelling "I'm racism" the whole time.

JakeNbake
01-30-2011, 01:55 PM
cool story. in the days gone by, you'd be the one stringing black people up from trees because they looked at your daughter the wrong way.

I'd string up any person that looked at my daughter the wrong way!

schaaf
01-30-2011, 02:04 PM
I'd string up any person that looked at my daughter the wrong way!

Yeah, that doesn't matter on color of skin.

Karenin
01-30-2011, 02:05 PM
You wouldn't know racism if it kicked you in the dick yelling "I'm racism" the whole time.

Right. Here you go bro, you can join your buddy JonGault over here:

www.stormfront.org/forum

Karenin
01-30-2011, 02:05 PM
I'd string up any person that looked at my daughter the wrong way!

but especially if they were black, right?

JakeNbake
01-30-2011, 02:13 PM
but especially if they were black, right?

You can't especially do that. If I say anyone I mean anyone.

I can't string up anyone any more more just because they're black... Do you mean I will use more strings on Black people?

What exactly are you asking.. or implying. Especially when you know nothing about me. Mostly because I haven't posted much on this board.

epicSocialism4tw
01-30-2011, 02:17 PM
There was an episode of the Jeffersons where George brought a watermelon home and he brought it in under his coat so his neighbor, the white guy (I forgot his name), wouldn't say anything. He said that he didn't want to hear the white guy comment on blacks eating watermelon.

A while back a white family moved in next door to my parents house. So I'm bringing in a watermelon from my mother's car, and the white guy is standing on his porch. He looks at me, smiles, and was like "Yeeeeaaaaah, wathermelon." I smiled back but was thinking "a-hole". He was a cool guy though, so I didn't really think much of it.

The only reason why I don't eat fried chicken often is because I don't want to gain a lot of weight or have a heart attack. But the stuff is good.

As for Kool Aid, I drank that everyday growing up. One day my mother bought some Tang, but nobody drank it, so it was right back to Kool Aid.

According to stereotypes, I was black growing up. Ha! We ate watermelon like it was going out of style (and because its awesome). Fried chicken was a staple. There was always kool-aid in the fridge. Greens were common. We ate beans and cornbread, dumplings, and just about any of the foods that relatively poor people ate in the midwest in the 1980's.

Now I'm Mexican. I eat some type of Tex-Mex every day and love it.

I dont think I'll ever be able to go full-Chinese because some of that stuff just doesnt work for me. I loves me some broccoli beef or some orange chicken, but if you get too far away from that it gets me out of my comfort zone. I'm pretty adventurous, but I like my food to be somewhere close to the comfort zone when I'm hungry.

epicSocialism4tw
01-30-2011, 02:18 PM
Right. Here you go bro, you can join your buddy JonGault over here:

www.stormfront.org/forum

You're a weirdo.

epicSocialism4tw
01-30-2011, 02:20 PM
There was an episode of the Jeffersons where George brought a watermelon home and he brought it in under his coat so his neighbor, the white guy (I forgot his name), wouldn't say anything. He said that he didn't want to hear the white guy comment on blacks eating watermelon.

A while back a white family moved in next door to my parents house. So I'm bringing in a watermelon from my mother's car, and the white guy is standing on his porch. He looks at me, smiles, and was like "Yeeeeaaaaah, wathermelon." I smiled back but was thinking "a-hole". He was a cool guy though, so I didn't really think much of it.


He was trying to be friendly with you. If he would have been an "a-hole" he wouldnt have said anything about it.

Archer81
01-30-2011, 02:21 PM
Right. Here you go bro, you can join your buddy JonGault over here:

www.stormfront.org/forum


There has to be a logical explanation of why you know of a white power forum?


:Broncos:

Karenin
01-30-2011, 02:24 PM
Because it was mentioned about 50 posts ago, in this very thread? Get your head out of your ass. Or your boyfriend's ass. Whichever.

Archer81
01-30-2011, 02:26 PM
Because it was mentioned about 50 posts ago, in this very thread? Get your head out of your ass. Or your boyfriend's ass. Whichever.


A neo-nazi and a fetish freak.

Explains things.

:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw
01-30-2011, 02:35 PM
There has to be a logical explanation of why you know of a white power forum?


:Broncos:

What the heck is that guy doing on a white power forum?

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 02:42 PM
Because it was mentioned about 50 posts ago, in this very thread? Get your head out of your ass. Or your boyfriend's ass. Whichever.

So you're attempting to be clever and insulting by copying a link you didn't even know about until this thread? Wouldn't we then have followed the thread and known about said link as well?

Go back to hiding wherever it was you were hiding for the last few years. Not-posting you was much better than current you.

Karenin
01-30-2011, 02:43 PM
What the heck is that guy doing on a white power forum?

Can we just pretend it's June and The Mavs have pulled their yearly playoff choke job so you'll leave for a few months? Of course, you can change your name as usual in the vain hope that people will forget how much you embarrassed yourself before you disappeared.

Karenin
01-30-2011, 02:44 PM
So you're attempting to be clever and insulting by copying a link you didn't even know about until this thread? Wouldn't we then have followed the thread and known about said link as well?

Go back to hiding wherever it was you were hiding for the last few years. Not-posting you was much better than current you.

Huh? And you are...?

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 02:45 PM
Huh? And you are...?

I pose the exact same question to you.

cutthemdown
01-30-2011, 03:03 PM
The fans know what Hillis can do and if the new coach holds him to 600 yds Cleveland will look like Egypt.

It already does so whats your point? What does what the fans want have to do with anything on the field?

This is about having a young, faster, Montario Hardesty you want to get involved, coupled with a big bruising RB who takes a ton of hits. The smart move is to reduce Hillis collisions while finding a roll for the other rb. Browns wanted to do it by committee last yr but a ton of rbs got injured.

It's funny because I only said he would get around 1000 total yrds and 7-10 tds. Thats not a bad yr for a bruiser type runner.

Now if the Browns offense stinks, all the other rbs get hurt, yeah maybe he repeats last yr. His upside as far as that goes though IMO is about 25%

I will be staying away from Hillis because people like you will rate him a top 10 rb.

Karenin
01-30-2011, 03:09 PM
I pose the exact same question to you.

Seriously though, who the **** are you? You have like 10,000 posts and I can't remember a single one you've ever made. You are the most forgettable message board poster of all time, congratulations.

epicSocialism4tw
01-30-2011, 03:11 PM
Seriously though, who the **** are you? You have like 10,000 posts and I can't remember a single one you've ever made. You are the most forgettable message board poster of all time, congratulations.

Is Karenin Russian for "white power"?

Karenin
01-30-2011, 03:13 PM
Hey, look at that, it's May and the first round of the NBA playoffs just ended. Your beloved Mavs have **** the bed once again against inferior competition and it's time for you to disappear for a few months and pretend you didn't spend the last 5 months puffing your chest out and making a fool of yourself. See ya!

Requiem
01-30-2011, 03:28 PM
Is Karenin Russian for "white power"?

He must love Tolstoy.

epicSocialism4tw
01-30-2011, 03:29 PM
He must love Tolstoy.

Tolstoy and his characters were certainly white...hmm....;)

Requiem
01-30-2011, 03:32 PM
Tolstoy and his characters were certainly white...hmm....;)

Color me surprised that Karenin actually has the will power or intellectual capacity to get through Tolstoy's works. Granted, he probably doesn't understand them. Though I did hear he was top in his elementary class in AR points for getting through all those R.L. Stine Goosebumps books!

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 03:41 PM
Seriously though, who the **** are you? You have like 10,000 posts and I can't remember a single one you've ever made. You are the most forgettable message board poster of all time, congratulations.

Thanks.

Karenin
01-30-2011, 03:43 PM
Color me surprised that Karenin actually has the will power or intellectual capacity to get through Tolstoy's works. Granted, he probably doesn't understand them. Though I did hear he was top in his elementary class in AR points for getting through all those R.L. Stine Goosebumps books!

Cool story Macauley Culkin.

Requiem
01-30-2011, 03:47 PM
Cool story Macauley Culkin.

Is this a better story?

http://i51.tinypic.com/eqrtr9.jpg

schaaf
01-30-2011, 04:19 PM
Cool story Macauley Culkin.

damn you!

The Home Alone movies got me through Elementary School

Requiem
01-30-2011, 04:32 PM
damn you!

The Home Alone movies got me through Elementary School

The Sandlot and The Goonies, FTW.

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 04:56 PM
The Sandlot and The Goonies, FTW.

People have been telling me to see the Goonies for the last ten years and I refuse because it cannot possibly live up to the hype. One day I'll break down and do it though.

Rock Chalk
01-30-2011, 05:47 PM
As a black guy, I have to say, that was awesome!!!! And he is exactly right. Two points he made. He said that he's not saying that white people are better, but it's clearly better to be white. lol. That's exactly true. The other point he made was that one day white folks are going to have to pay one day. Well, I wouldn't say that white folks are going to have to pay for it, but that was funny. White folks complain about political correctness, but come on yall. It must be nice. ;D

Really? How exactly would a black man know if being white is awesome?

Exactly what advantages does the average everyday white dude have that other people do not have?

Stupid people, regardless of color, make stupid decisions and have hard lives. Smart people make smart decisions and have much easier lives. Color has little to do with anything.

You think being white is just a walk in the park? Life isn't ****ing easy for anyone. Go to a poor white trailer park and ask them if they think they got some great advantage for being white. There are about 10 times as many poor white people as there are poor black people in America, but hey, who gives a **** right? It's great being white.

Louis CK's bit was funny but entirely untrue. Black people might see it that way, because they have no concept of what being white is like just like white people have no concept of what being black is like.

We all know what being human is like and the **** aint easy.

schaaf
01-30-2011, 06:02 PM
People have been telling me to see the Goonies for the last ten years and I refuse because it cannot possibly live up to the hype. One day I'll break down and do it though.

Go rent the Goonies, now. That show is every young kids dream. The sandlot is amazing

Blart
01-30-2011, 06:40 PM
wow. you're kind of a douche, aren't you? if you're trying to imply something unsavory about me, you failed.

during the 2008 election, as they do for all candidates, some prominent genealogists researched both sides of Obama's and McCain's families.

it's an indisputable fact that Obama is descended from some slave owners on his mother's side and his father's side is African (Kenyan) and does not include any descent from American blacks who might have had slave ancestors.

that blacks in America see him as somehow one of them or that his election is any sort of former-slave-made-good story is absurd.

Obama said in his own book that he's not comfortable with the idea of being American. he identifies much more strongly with the marxist, anti-colonialist philosophies of his Kenyan father. in short, he has more in common with Robert Mugabe than Booker T Washington.

but i guess facts don't matter for some people so long as they have a nice poster that says HOPE on it.

Whoever said there's a thread on this at Stormfront is right:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t455382-24/

You wouldn't know racism if it kicked you in the dick yelling "I'm racism" the whole time.

Well let's look at what we have in the paragraph above:
1) Judging a person by their ancestry, a core component of white nationalism.
2) Claiming black Americans who identify with another black American are "absurd." As if he has the right to say who a group can or can't accept.
3) The idea that racism ended with abolition, and any minority who hasn't been a slave doesn't experience adversity.


What I see, starting with the Rand obsession and ending with racism, is a person who has never pondered their own privilege.

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 06:58 PM
Well let's look at what we have in the paragraph above:
1) Judging a person by their ancestry, a core component of white nationalism.
2) Claiming black Americans who identify with another black American are "absurd." As if he has the right to say who a group can or can't accept.
3) The idea that racism ended with abolition, and any minority who hasn't been a slave doesn't experience adversity.


What I see, starting with the Rand obsession and ending with racism, is a person who has never pondered their own privilege.

A - the guy was judging one black person's ancestry vs others'. How can you be racist simply by comparing two black people? That defies logic entirely.

2 - Again... how does that identify with "racism"? Racism is saying "my race is better than yours". He's simply saying black guy A can't relate with black guy B. See comment A on defying the logic of racism.

III. Racism exists. Both ways. It is what it is. It's not nearly the problem it once was though and to say racism doesn't exist... is... as much as some in this thread would hate to hear it, not racism in itself.

If someone in here came out and said one race is better than the other, point me to it. Every discussion about race isn't necessarily racist though. Heck, even the comedian made sure to tiptoe around it when he said "I'm not saying that white people are better, I'm saying that being white is clearly better".

TheReverend
01-30-2011, 07:00 PM
Guys... racism is RAMPANT through the internet due to it's provided anonymity. If you want to find a racist, it's really easy to do without having to read too deeply into someone's post trying to find something that probably isn't there.

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 07:01 PM
What I see, starting with the Rand obsession and ending with racism, is a person who has never pondered their own privilege.

And as for this part, we all do with what we have. As someone just above pointed out, there's no free lunch for anyone unless you happen to be a Hilton, Kennedy, etc.

I promise. I'm not. Any money I have to my name today is because I was in the military after barely turning 17 and in a warzone at 18. If there was a free lunch line for me, why the **** didn't someone mention it?

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 07:02 PM
Guys... racism is RAMPANT through the internet due to it's provided anonymity. If you want to find a racist, it's really easy to do without having to read too deeply into someone's post trying to find something that probably isn't there.

Very good point.

Unfortunately, it's all some people have. Little Al Sharptons in training.

Requiem
01-30-2011, 07:24 PM
People have been telling me to see the Goonies for the last ten years and I refuse because it cannot possibly live up to the hype. One day I'll break down and do it though.

Might as well do it.

If it doesn't live up to your expectations or the hype, so be it.

Everyone has got to see it.

We actually went to Astoria as a family when I was younger to see where it was made and actually got to see Mikey's house in the movie!

Blart
01-30-2011, 07:34 PM
A - the guy was judging one black person's ancestry vs others'. How can you be racist simply by comparing two black people? That defies logic entirely.

He wasn't judging the ancestry, he was judging the person based on ancestry. If people didn't do that, there would be no such thing as racism.

2 - Again... how does that identify with "racism"? Racism is saying "my race is better than yours". He's simply saying black guy A can't relate with black guy B. See comment A on defying the logic of racism.

I've read similar arguments by White Nationalists, that their race isn't superior (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t773759-2/), they just don't want to associate with other races. Most WN's will claim that asians have superior mental ability, or that blacks have superior athletic ability, or some other folk wisdom they'll back up with statistics (frequently confusing correlation with causation) and experiments done in the 50's.

The poster in question denigrated an entire race of people, calling their views "absurd." Which assumes the following:
a) That all black Americans have the same political views.
b) That black Americans should not identify with other black Americans until each goes through a rigid ancestry check.
c) That black americans, regardless of ancestry, don't face similar adversities and humiliations through subtle and not so subtle racism and can't identify with one another over those shared trials.

III. Racism exists. Both ways. It is what it is. It's not nearly the problem it once was though and to say racism doesn't exist... is... as much as some in this thread would hate to hear it, not racism in itself.

It may not be racist to say racism doesn't exist, but it's a line frequently uttered by a-holes. Nobody I know is color blind, nor gender blind for that matter. If you're a thoughtful person you'll try to keep your pre-conceived notions about someone in-check until you sit down and have a real conversation.

vindico
01-30-2011, 08:02 PM
As an avid student and fan of the game of football, I am constantly informed (or maybe indoctrinated) that talent wins football games. I am told that coaches recruit the best talent. And play the best talent. And that the best talent will always be put in a position to make plays regardless of virtually any other criteria. Talent is all that is important, and talent will always get the opportunity it deserves. Nothing else matters. 

Coaches, scouts, etc. get paid to win, after all, and not signing the most talented players and not giving said players the most opportunity would be foolish. They would lose their jobs if they didn’t sign and play the best possible talent for their team! This I am told time and time again as if by mantra. These are stated as simple, and obvious, FACTS that everyone just knows are true, told to me in tones of shock and bewilderment if I question it, akin to my wearing a bikini in church. 

Yet I do have questions … because the performances I see on the field don’t make sense if the “talent” thing is true. 

When trying to work out puzzles of this sort, I find that it makes things easier to understand if I compare things (players in this instance) that are similar, the more similar the better. In this scenario, if players are evaluated in the same manner, then similar players will yield similar evaluations/accolades/playing time/and so on. Many people might be surprised that this isn’t how things work, neither in college nor professional football. 

In fact, there are often VAST differences in the treatment of players who are virtually identical … except for one small difference. 

A case in point: 

Player A, as a high school senior, was 6-1, 220-pounds, and ran a reported 4.5 40. Player B, as a high school senior, was 6-2, 220-pounds, and ran a reported 4.5 40. 

Player A rushed for 2,134 yards and 27 touchdowns on 223 carries as a senior (9.6 avg.). Player B rushed for 2,631 yards and 29 touchdowns on 261 carries as a senior (10.1 avg.). 

Player A was a Parade All-American and one of the top prospects in the nation. Player B was a Parade All-American and one of the top prospects in the nation. 

Here is where things get interesting… and confusing… and troubling…because it is readily apparent that both of these athletes are incredibly talented. And physically, one could hardly hope to find two more similar athletes … except for one evidently all-important difference. 

Player A is black and Player B is white. 

And thus, their careers take DRAMATIC turns when they enter the realm of college football and beyond… 

Despite the incredible similarities, Player A was considered to be an elite talent running the football as a tailback and is now considered a favorite to win the Heisman Trophy. 

Player B, on the other hand, was considered to be an elite talent … as a blocker and was never given the chance to be a tailback. He was a fullback, you see. 

Player A is Chris Wells, and he plays for Ohio State. 

Player B is Peyton Hillis, and he played for the University of Arkansas. 

Let’s continue the comparison, shall we? 

Wells, known for his powerful running style, played as a true freshman. At tailback. 

Hillis, known for his powerful running style, played as a true freshman. At fullback. 

Wells averaged 5.9 yards per carry last year as the featured back, behind a blocking fullback in an offense designed around him. 

Hillis averaged 5.6 yards per carry last year from his fullback spot without a lead blocker, while running from much nearer the line of scrimmage, and getting the majority of his carries in short-yardage situations. (As an aside, teammate and 2-time Heisman trophy runner-up Darren McFadden also averaged 5.6 yards per carry last season for the Hogs.) 

Wells is said to be an explosive playmaker and is most often compared to Eddie George, Maurice Clarett, and Jim Brown (an old school fullback). All of whom were featured backs despite not having elite speed. None were asked to be a regular blocker. 

Hillis is said to be too waaaaay too slow to be a featured back. So, since his freshman year, he has been forced to add weight and block almost full time. 

But let’s take a close look at the speed thing for a moment … Both players have a career-long run of 65-yard touchdowns. Both runs came against last year’s NCAA Champions, the LSU Tigers. You can’t ask for more identical comparisons, apples to apples, Buckeyes to Razorbacks. 

Take a look at each of the runs. 
Wells: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnuk4X6tajs 
Hillis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5alq9LRUNk 
Can you tell any difference aside from skin color? If anything, it appears that Wells is the slower of the two … Interesting, huh? 

But there are significant differences in the two players despite their obvious similarities, differences that appear to show Hillis to be the more complete player. . . 

Wells is one-dimensional. In two years as the featured playmaker at OSU, he only has 7 catches for 37 yards. He has never been a factor in the return game. Nor has he ever blocked for another back. 

Hillis is multi-dimensional. Despite being miscast, he set school records for running backs in career receptions (118), receiving yards (1,195) and receiving touchdowns (11). And he was the Razorbacks top punt returner for much of his career, averaging over 10 yards-per return. And his talents are also unselfish and team-first. He also blocked for two individual 1,000-yard rushers (McFadden and Felix Jones) for the second consecutive season. 

So, draw your own conclusions. It’s possible there is some “other” explanation. It’s possible that skin color “wasn’t” the determining factor. I guess anything is possible… but if so, if I am wrong, I’d like to have those facts presented to me. 

And for anyone who says, “Why does it matter?” Just consider a couple of reasons, amongst the many. Hillis has suffered both physically and financially for the position change. As a fullback, he has been forced to carry more weight than his body is designed for. He has endured more physical punishment due to the rigors of the fullback position. AND, compare the meager salary a 7th-round draft pick at fullback makes to what a 1st-round tailback gets in the NFL. 

Come to think of it, I’d say there are millions of reasons it matters. 

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 08:04 PM
He wasn't judging the ancestry, he was judging the person based on ancestry. If people didn't do that, there would be no such thing as racism.



I've read similar arguments by White Nationalists, that their race isn't superior (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t773759-2/), they just don't want to associate with other races. Most WN's will claim that asians have superior mental ability, or that blacks have superior athletic ability, or some other folk wisdom they'll back up with statistics (frequently confusing correlation with causation) and experiments done in the 50's.

The poster in question denigrated an entire race of people, calling their views "absurd." Which assumes the following:
a) That all black Americans have the same political views.
b) That black Americans should not identify with other black Americans until each goes through a rigid ancestry check.
c) That black americans, regardless of ancestry, don't face similar adversities and humiliations through subtle and not so subtle racism and can't identify with one another over those shared trials.



It may not be racist to say racism doesn't exist, but it's a line frequently uttered by a-holes. Nobody I know is color blind, nor gender blind for that matter. If you're a thoughtful person you'll try to keep your pre-conceived notions about someone in-check until you sit down and have a real conversation.

Well, obviously you feel heated about it... and one thing I try to avoid is the arguing of interpretation. IF one reads the posts the way you have, I can at least comprehend where you're coming from. May not agree entirely but I can see where you're coming from.

I don't think anyone in this thread is going to be stringing up people or burning crosses in the next few days. We all just have different values. I think you and, especially, some of the others in this thread take PC way too far... but to each their own.

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 08:10 PM
As an avid student and fan of the game of football, I am constantly informed (or maybe indoctrinated) that talent wins football games. I am told that coaches recruit the best talent. And play the best talent. And that the best talent will always be put in a position to make plays regardless of virtually any other criteria. Talent is all that is important, and talent will always get the opportunity it deserves. Nothing else matters. 

Coaches, scouts, etc. get paid to win, after all, and not signing the most talented players and not giving said players the most opportunity would be foolish. They would lose their jobs if they didn’t sign and play the best possible talent for their team! This I am told time and time again as if by mantra. These are stated as simple, and obvious, FACTS that everyone just knows are true, told to me in tones of shock and bewilderment if I question it, akin to my wearing a bikini in church. 

Yet I do have questions … because the performances I see on the field don’t make sense if the “talent” thing is true. 

When trying to work out puzzles of this sort, I find that it makes things easier to understand if I compare things (players in this instance) that are similar, the more similar the better. In this scenario, if players are evaluated in the same manner, then similar players will yield similar evaluations/accolades/playing time/and so on. Many people might be surprised that this isn’t how things work, neither in college nor professional football. 

In fact, there are often VAST differences in the treatment of players who are virtually identical … except for one small difference. 

A case in point: 

Player A, as a high school senior, was 6-1, 220-pounds, and ran a reported 4.5 40. Player B, as a high school senior, was 6-2, 220-pounds, and ran a reported 4.5 40. 

Player A rushed for 2,134 yards and 27 touchdowns on 223 carries as a senior (9.6 avg.). Player B rushed for 2,631 yards and 29 touchdowns on 261 carries as a senior (10.1 avg.). 

Player A was a Parade All-American and one of the top prospects in the nation. Player B was a Parade All-American and one of the top prospects in the nation. 

Here is where things get interesting… and confusing… and troubling…because it is readily apparent that both of these athletes are incredibly talented. And physically, one could hardly hope to find two more similar athletes … except for one evidently all-important difference. 

Player A is black and Player B is white. 

And thus, their careers take DRAMATIC turns when they enter the realm of college football and beyond… 

Despite the incredible similarities, Player A was considered to be an elite talent running the football as a tailback and is now considered a favorite to win the Heisman Trophy. 

Player B, on the other hand, was considered to be an elite talent … as a blocker and was never given the chance to be a tailback. He was a fullback, you see. 

Player A is Chris Wells, and he plays for Ohio State. 

Player B is Peyton Hillis, and he played for the University of Arkansas. 

Let’s continue the comparison, shall we? 

Wells, known for his powerful running style, played as a true freshman. At tailback. 

Hillis, known for his powerful running style, played as a true freshman. At fullback. 

Wells averaged 5.9 yards per carry last year as the featured back, behind a blocking fullback in an offense designed around him. 

Hillis averaged 5.6 yards per carry last year from his fullback spot without a lead blocker, while running from much nearer the line of scrimmage, and getting the majority of his carries in short-yardage situations. (As an aside, teammate and 2-time Heisman trophy runner-up Darren McFadden also averaged 5.6 yards per carry last season for the Hogs.) 

Wells is said to be an explosive playmaker and is most often compared to Eddie George, Maurice Clarett, and Jim Brown (an old school fullback). All of whom were featured backs despite not having elite speed. None were asked to be a regular blocker. 

Hillis is said to be too waaaaay too slow to be a featured back. So, since his freshman year, he has been forced to add weight and block almost full time. 

But let’s take a close look at the speed thing for a moment … Both players have a career-long run of 65-yard touchdowns. Both runs came against last year’s NCAA Champions, the LSU Tigers. You can’t ask for more identical comparisons, apples to apples, Buckeyes to Razorbacks. 

Take a look at each of the runs. 
Wells: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnuk4X6tajs 
Hillis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5alq9LRUNk 
Can you tell any difference aside from skin color? If anything, it appears that Wells is the slower of the two … Interesting, huh? 

But there are significant differences in the two players despite their obvious similarities, differences that appear to show Hillis to be the more complete player. . . 

Wells is one-dimensional. In two years as the featured playmaker at OSU, he only has 7 catches for 37 yards. He has never been a factor in the return game. Nor has he ever blocked for another back. 

Hillis is multi-dimensional. Despite being miscast, he set school records for running backs in career receptions (118), receiving yards (1,195) and receiving touchdowns (11). And he was the Razorbacks top punt returner for much of his career, averaging over 10 yards-per return. And his talents are also unselfish and team-first. He also blocked for two individual 1,000-yard rushers (McFadden and Felix Jones) for the second consecutive season. 

So, draw your own conclusions. It’s possible there is some “other” explanation. It’s possible that skin color “wasn’t” the determining factor. I guess anything is possible… but if so, if I am wrong, I’d like to have those facts presented to me. 

And for anyone who says, “Why does it matter?” Just consider a couple of reasons, amongst the many. Hillis has suffered both physically and financially for the position change. As a fullback, he has been forced to carry more weight than his body is designed for. He has endured more physical punishment due to the rigors of the fullback position. AND, compare the meager salary a 7th-round draft pick at fullback makes to what a 1st-round tailback gets in the NFL. 

Come to think of it, I’d say there are millions of reasons it matters. 

Good post if it's yours.

Only thing I question is whether Ohio State had comparable talent to McFadden. If Wells was the best RB on his team and Hillis the 3rd best, doesn't it make sense that they'd try to find somewhere else to use Hillis? He wouldn't be the first RB asked to play FB just to get on the field.

That said, I think anyone who doesn't see a tendency for non-white skilled players is obviously ignoring the elephant.

Blart
01-30-2011, 08:42 PM
Good post? Yikes. That's a direct copy & paste from Caste Football, a white nationalist sports zine.

http://www.castefootball.us/viewarticle.asp?sportID=3&teamID=0&ID=23304


If you enjoyed that article, check out their affiliates:

http://www.anu.org/
http://www.northernvoicebookstore.com/

They have an entire philosophy that should be right up your alley.

I always assumed there was something a little strange about rabid Hillis defenders, I blew it off as me being overly-PC when he began to run well in Cleveland, but this thread has cemented my original fear. You guys are now directly quoting and praising white nationalists.

That One Guy
01-30-2011, 08:53 PM
Good post? Yikes. That's a direct copy & paste from Caste Football, a white nationalist sports zine.

http://www.castefootball.us/viewarticle.asp?sportID=3&teamID=0&ID=23304


If you enjoyed that article, check out their affiliates:

http://www.anu.org/
http://www.northernvoicebookstore.com/

They have an entire philosophy that should be right up your alley.

I always assumed there was something a little strange about rabid Hillis defenders, I blew it off as me being overly-PC when he began to run well in Cleveland, but this thread has cemented my original fear. You guys are now directly quoting and praising white nationalists.

I said "if it's yours" because it seemed copied.

I didn't exactly agree with the concept, as I said, but it was a well thought out and researched argument if it were his.

Again, pointing out something isn't necessarily racist. There they were pointing out that white boy did well but didn't get the same success as someone else did. You really need to ease up a bit. You look for ills in the world, you'll find them. It'll only make you more miserable to live in a world of such filth.

Jason in LA
01-31-2011, 12:21 AM
Okay, back on a serious note. What's the deal with maccasins? I never seen any black guys wearing them, but I've seen white guys wearing them. And flip flops? I remember back in college at UCLA, every white dude had on flip flops. Black guys didn't really rock that. If we wore anything like that, it was usually the Nike ones and we wore them with socks. Actually that was very common, especially with athletes.

epicSocialism4tw
01-31-2011, 03:52 AM
Okay, back on a serious note. What's the deal with maccasins? I never seen any black guys wearing them, but I've seen white guys wearing them. And flip flops? I remember back in college at UCLA, every white dude had on flip flops. Black guys didn't really rock that. If we wore anything like that, it was usually the Nike ones and we wore them with socks. Actually that was very common, especially with athletes.

Theyre comfortable.

And there's something freeing about having not wearing socks and having your feet uncovered.

I dont wear flip-flops, but I have some timberland sandals and some patagonia shoes that are very comfortable.

When I was younger, I wore basketball shoes (Original Air Flights, Charles Barkleys, and Michael Jordans), but those are kind of stifling on the feet, and you cant really wear those as an adult anymore unless youre at the gym.

TDmvp
01-31-2011, 04:31 AM
Theyre comfortable.

And there's something freeing about having not wearing socks and having your feet uncovered.

I dont wear flip-flops, but I have some timberland sandals and some patagonia shoes that are very comfortable.

When I was younger, I wore basketball shoes (Original Air Flights, Charles Barkleys, and Michael Jordans), but those are kind of stifling on the feet, and you cant really wear those as an adult anymore unless youre at the gym.


Sigh , So I'm old and a dork for rocking my Lebron 5's with a nice pair of jeans and shirt to go out to eat at 35 years old to casual places ?? LOL ...
I look young and am a long haired scruff so I figured I was ok hehe.



http://www.lebrontalk.com/wordpress/wp-gallery/lebronV_bl_crimson_01.jpg

They are the first pair of basket ball shoes I've bought since the era you mention with the Flights and Jordans , first basketball/tennis shoes I've bought in 15 years I bet and I hate Lebron. Just loved the shoes so much I bought 2 pairs of same ones cause it may be 15 more years I see another pair I love. I wear them minus the strap and they look very classic like the old Jordans i think. But I am a old dork :~ohyah!::~ohyah!:

tebowisdabomb
01-31-2011, 04:47 AM
What do you think the first African American players had to face?
Exactly!

So it's right to give it back to him :thumbs:

Archer81
01-31-2011, 06:12 AM
Okay, back on a serious note. What's the deal with maccasins? I never seen any black guys wearing them, but I've seen white guys wearing them. And flip flops? I remember back in college at UCLA, every white dude had on flip flops. Black guys didn't really rock that. If we wore anything like that, it was usually the Nike ones and we wore them with socks. Actually that was very common, especially with athletes.


Socks with flip flops?...

Flippy-floppies are pretty casual. I wear them for one of two reasons. First is its hot out and pulling on socks and some running shoes wont cut it. Second is I am showering in a public shower and dont want my feet to get raped by ebola's retarded cousin.

But flip flops with socks?

:Broncos:

Archer81
01-31-2011, 06:15 AM
Good post? Yikes. That's a direct copy & paste from Caste Football, a white nationalist sports zine.

http://www.castefootball.us/viewarticle.asp?sportID=3&teamID=0&ID=23304


If you enjoyed that article, check out their affiliates:

http://www.anu.org/
http://www.northernvoicebookstore.com/

They have an entire philosophy that should be right up your alley.

I always assumed there was something a little strange about rabid Hillis defenders, I blew it off as me being overly-PC when he began to run well in Cleveland, but this thread has cemented my original fear. You guys are now directly quoting and praising white nationalists.


Would you prefer they quote black nationalists or la raza?

:Broncos:

That One Guy
01-31-2011, 06:18 AM
Socks with flip flops?...

Flippy-floppies are pretty casual. I wear them for one of two reasons. First is its hot out and pulling on socks and some running shoes wont cut it. Second is I am showering in a public shower and dont want my feet to get raped by ebola's retarded cousin.

But flip flops with socks?

:Broncos:

You go with the form that doesn't have the between the toes thing. We did it to take our cleats off in my soccer days. If it's between the toe style or going with tube socks - no.

Archer81
01-31-2011, 06:19 AM
You go with the form that doesn't have the between the toes thing. We did it to take our cleats off in my soccer days. If it's between the toe style or going with tube socks - no.


Thank God. How uncomfortable would that be?


:Broncos:

Jason in LA
01-31-2011, 08:45 AM
The thing about flip flops with no socks, I just don't need to see another man's feet. Maybe it's just me, maybe it's a cultural thing, I don't know, but socks man.

I had a pair of flip flops, or thongs, once. I didn't like that bar between my toes, so I only wore them once. I think I was like five years old at the time. lol

A lot of black guys, especially athletes, wear the Nike flip flops with socks. It's comfortable, but a lot of them are trying to look cool at the same time. I used to wear them back in high shool and college, but I'm grown now, so I'm always wearing shoes.

http://mirror.altrec.com/images/shop/photos/NKE/50841_l.jpg

Jason in LA
01-31-2011, 08:56 AM
Sigh , So I'm old and a dork for rocking my Lebron 5's with a nice pair of jeans and shirt to go out to eat at 35 years old to casual places ?? LOL ...
I look young and am a long haired scruff so I figured I was ok hehe.



http://www.lebrontalk.com/wordpress/wp-gallery/lebronV_bl_crimson_01.jpg

They are the first pair of basket ball shoes I've bought since the era you mention with the Flights and Jordans , first basketball/tennis shoes I've bought in 15 years I bet and I hate Lebron. Just loved the shoes so much I bought 2 pairs of same ones cause it may be 15 more years I see another pair I love. I wear them minus the strap and they look very classic like the old Jordans i think. But I am a old dork :~ohyah!::~ohyah!:

Yeah man, you're a little old to be wearing the gym shoes with casual wear. ;D Trendy sneakers are an exception. You can rock chucks with anything. And there are a boat load of trendy sneakers to choose from. But wearing shoes that are meant for athletics with casual wear, that's for the high school and college kids. I don't play in pick up basketball games, so I haven't owned a pair of basketball shoes in years. Actually, I've never played organized basketball, so I stopped wearing Jordans around the 10th grade. That's when I started to figure out style. I'd wear the K Swiss classics, Nike canvas shoes, or Adidas shell tops mostly.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-31-2011, 09:28 AM
I do the whole "socks with sandals" thing after skiing or golfing, but it's just to get out of my other, less comfortable footwear. And after golf, I prefer to take the socks off too and let my dogs breathe in the open air. Decorum be damned.

That One Guy
01-31-2011, 04:49 PM
Yeah man, you're a little old to be wearing the gym shoes with casual wear. ;D Trendy sneakers are an exception. You can rock chucks with anything. And there are a boat load of trendy sneakers to choose from. But wearing shoes that are meant for athletics with casual wear, that's for the high school and college kids. I don't play in pick up basketball games, so I haven't owned a pair of basketball shoes in years. Actually, I've never played organized basketball, so I stopped wearing Jordans around the 10th grade. That's when I started to figure out style. I'd wear the K Swiss classics, Nike canvas shoes, or Adidas shell tops mostly.

I had a guy I worked for about 5 years or so ago tell me he was too old for t-shirts. It hadn't ever clicked until that point that people would change their casual dress to some standard. Now you're telling me I wont be able to pull off running shoes forever?

Damn... maybe I'll just be poor, pull up in a trailer, and enjoy life where I can walk around in shirts with shotgun pattern holes throughout.

schaaf
01-31-2011, 04:58 PM
Yeah I am not looking forward to adjusting my wardrobe to clothes besides Jordans, Under Armour, and Nike

Jason in LA
02-01-2011, 11:56 AM
Really? How exactly would a black man know if being white is awesome?

Exactly what advantages does the average everyday white dude have that other people do not have?

Stupid people, regardless of color, make stupid decisions and have hard lives. Smart people make smart decisions and have much easier lives. Color has little to do with anything.

You think being white is just a walk in the park? Life isn't ****ing easy for anyone. Go to a poor white trailer park and ask them if they think they got some great advantage for being white. There are about 10 times as many poor white people as there are poor black people in America, but hey, who gives a **** right? It's great being white.

Louis CK's bit was funny but entirely untrue. Black people might see it that way, because they have no concept of what being white is like just like white people have no concept of what being black is like.

We all know what being human is like and the **** aint easy.

Dang man, lighten up. Go look at some Ashley Judd pictures or something. Maybe that will make you feel better. ;D

Kaylore
02-01-2011, 12:00 PM
Okay, back on a serious note. What's the deal with maccasins? I never seen any black guys wearing them, but I've seen white guys wearing them. And flip flops? I remember back in college at UCLA, every white dude had on flip flops. Black guys didn't really rock that. If we wore anything like that, it was usually the Nike ones and we wore them with socks. Actually that was very common, especially with athletes.

Hey, we have moccasins, you have guys have wicker shoes. Frankly, I think the moccasin is more comfortable.

Jason in LA
02-01-2011, 12:04 PM
Hey, we have moccasins, you have guys have wicker shoes. Frankly, I think the moccasin is more comfortable.

I had to look up what a wicker shoe was. Looks like a canvas shoe made out of a different material. I've seen them around but have never owned a pair.

Kaylore
02-01-2011, 12:05 PM
I had to look up what a wicker shoe was. Looks like a canvas shoe made out of a different material. I've seen them around but have never owned a pair.

Really? My wealthy male black friends ALL wear these all the time.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTePAln_drCyLGcDdKg0yubB8omjeuB3-H8olUrPdRnGTKp8vIx

Jason in LA
02-01-2011, 12:11 PM
Really? My wealthy male black friends ALL wear these all the time.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTePAln_drCyLGcDdKg0yubB8omjeuB3-H8olUrPdRnGTKp8vIx

Oh, I've seen those around a lot. I don't care for them, but they are worn a lot to casual but kind of dressy events and places. Usually worn with white or beige linen pants and a polo shirt.

Kaylore
02-01-2011, 01:07 PM
Oh, I've seen those around a lot. I don't care for them, but they are worn a lot to casual but kind of dressy events and places. Usually worn with white or beige linen pants and a polo shirt.

Yes they are. Like I said, they're the black man's version of a moccasin or maybe a better comparison would be the black man's loafer. FYI I will never wear loafers with no socks, and that's a white man staple. I think it looks disgusting.

That One Guy
02-01-2011, 01:13 PM
Really? My wealthy male black friends ALL wear these all the time.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTePAln_drCyLGcDdKg0yubB8omjeuB3-H8olUrPdRnGTKp8vIx

They look like they should have heels. Terrible.

Jason in LA
02-01-2011, 02:03 PM
Yes they are. Like I said, they're the black man's version of a moccasin or maybe a better comparison would be the black man's loafer. FYI I will never wear loafers with no socks, and that's a white man staple. I think it looks disgusting.

I never got that one either. I'm a fan of socks. I don't like sweating in my shoes, and it makes the shoe stink after so many wears.

One more thing about the wicker shoes, got to a jazz concert where most of the audience is black and you'll see those all over the place. Pimpin' :afro: