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Pony Boy
01-28-2011, 12:09 PM
Can Newton's dad says "let's go public before the NFL Combine."

Cecil Newton is scheduling his son, Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Cam Newton, to have a workout in front of the media in San Diego on Feb. 10, his quarterback coach George Whitfield told ESPN.

The Auburn quarterback arrived in San Diego over the weekend and finished his fourth day of working with Whitfield on Thursday. Much of the emphasis has been on getting Newton, who had played primarily out of the shotgun formation in a spread offense in college, acclimated to working from under center and throwing in rhythm while improving his footwork. The results have "blown away" Whitfield, as well as the elder Newton.

"Cam is ready arm-wise and footwork-wise," Whitfield said Thursday night. "We've had a heckuva of regimen, but he has really made some giant strides in getting this routine from under center down. His dad is seeing that, and saying let's go public before the [NFL] Combine."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6066772

Cam Newton has been working out with quarterback coach George Whitfield. Currently unaffiliated with any team, Whitfield tutored Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger during his four-game suspension.

Jason LaCanfora of NFL Network recently reported that some teams are concerned about Cecil Newton’s involvement in his son’s career. Apart from the allegations that Cecil Newton sought payment in exchange for Cam’s selection of a Division I school, NFL teams generally don’t look favorably on, for example, a player’s dad calling up the coach and complaining that his son’s not getting enough game reps.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/28/cecil-newton-setting-up-media-workout-for-cam/

gunns
01-28-2011, 12:17 PM
I would have the same concern if I had an NFL team looking at Cam. When drafted the coach and owner need to sit Cam and daddy down and let them know that they are now Cam's daddy.

oubronco
01-28-2011, 12:22 PM
It's a major red flag for his dad to be doing this he needs to hire an agent and tell daddy to stay the hell out of it

razorwire77
01-28-2011, 12:26 PM
I hope Cam absolutely crushes every workout he participates in. The best possible scenario for us is the Cam Newton hype train starts rolling, and as a result we are able to trade down from 2. This is especially true if Fairley is off the board at 1. Trade back to somewhere between 5-8, still nab an impact front seven player, and net some additional high picks.

Dedhed
01-28-2011, 12:26 PM
Daddy dumb.

broncocalijohn
01-28-2011, 12:27 PM
I think it is a great deal to have your Dad involved. If you want to cut ties with the son, you can always get the father to turn in the playbook.

Austin Bronco Fan
01-28-2011, 12:33 PM
Reminds me of Macauly Culkin's dad. Almost looks like Cecil is living vicariously through his son. I feel sorry for the NFL team who drafts Newton only to have his dad attached like a chihuahua in heat.

epicSocialism4tw
01-28-2011, 12:35 PM
Cam needs to grow a set and put a little distance between himself and his dad.

Its getting a little weird at this point.

broncocalijohn
01-28-2011, 12:40 PM
Cam needs to grow a set and put a little distance between himself and his dad.

Its getting a little weird at this point.

I dont think it is weird. While the pay to play thing is disturbing, I dont know if he will be hands on for his career. There are a ton of fathers not even in their kids' lives and some are but dont care about their extra curricular activities. At least this is one that got involved. Hopefully, he will realize he is an adult and needs professionals around him that have the experience.

epicSocialism4tw
01-28-2011, 12:44 PM
I dont think it is weird. While the pay to play thing is disturbing, I dont know if he will be hands on for his career. There are a ton of fathers not even in their kids' lives and some are but dont care about their extra curricular activities. At least this is one that got involved. Hopefully, he will realize he is an adult and needs professionals around him that have the experience.

He's more than just being involved, he's trying to drive the train.

I'm all for dads being involved. Taking over the thing is different though. He has to want his son to be his own man at some point.

That One Guy
01-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Hopefully the NCAA realizes what fools they look like by buying that crap about daddy Newton doing everything on his own and having no influence on his son in the pay for play matter.

The more daddy Newton stays around, the more it should be accepted that Cam knew what his dad was up to.

Quoydogs
01-28-2011, 02:14 PM
I'm not positive but I think I just watched this on Friday night lights. :thanku:

footstepsfrom#27
01-28-2011, 02:17 PM
Can Newton's dad says "let's go public before the NFL Combine."

Cecil Newton is scheduling his son, Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Cam Newton, to have a workout in front of the media in San Diego on Feb. 10, his quarterback coach George Whitfield told ESPN.

The Auburn quarterback arrived in San Diego over the weekend and finished his fourth day of working with Whitfield on Thursday. Much of the emphasis has been on getting Newton, who had played primarily out of the shotgun formation in a spread offense in college, acclimated to working from under center and throwing in rhythm while improving his footwork. The results have "blown away" Whitfield, as well as the elder Newton.

"Cam is ready arm-wise and footwork-wise," Whitfield said Thursday night. "We've had a heckuva of regimen, but he has really made some giant strides in getting this routine from under center down. His dad is seeing that, and saying let's go public before the [NFL] Combine."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6066772

Cam Newton has been working out with quarterback coach George Whitfield. Currently unaffiliated with any team, Whitfield tutored Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger during his four-game suspension.

Jason LaCanfora of NFL Network recently reported that some teams are concerned about Cecil Newton’s involvement in his son’s career. Apart from the allegations that Cecil Newton sought payment in exchange for Cam’s selection of a Division I school, NFL teams generally don’t look favorably on, for example, a player’s dad calling up the coach and complaining that his son’s not getting enough game reps.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/28/cecil-newton-setting-up-media-workout-for-cam/
Wow...it took this guy only four days to fix his mechanics? He must be some kind of Quarterback guru on a whole new level. McD was supposed to be good with Tebow, but it took him a whole season and he's still working on it. Four days...can we hire him too? :rofl:

Pony Boy
01-28-2011, 02:32 PM
I'm not positive but I think I just watched this on Friday night lights. :thanku:

Wow...I wonder how many other guys will come out of the closet and admit they watch Friday Night Lights ;D

HEAV
01-28-2011, 02:58 PM
I think it is a great deal to have your Dad involved. If you want to cut ties with the son, you can always get the father to turn in the playbook.


:rofl:

True very true.

Quoydogs
01-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Wow...I wonder how many other guys will come out of the closet and admit they watch Friday Night Lights ;D
It's man manopera don't take it away.

Killericon
01-28-2011, 04:29 PM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/donblog/lindrosDraft.jpg

FantomForce
01-28-2011, 04:55 PM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/donblog/lindrosDraft.jpg

+10

strafen
01-28-2011, 04:57 PM
It's a major red flag for his dad to be doing this he needs to hire an agent and tell daddy to stay the hell out of itHis dad just wants to cash in. I agree, he needs to step aside and not screw things up...
He already has a reputation for being dishonest. Remember the scandal earlier last season?

KevinJames
01-28-2011, 05:57 PM
I'm not positive but I think I just watched this on Friday night lights. :thanku:

http://image.com.com/tv/images/content_headers/person_new/11109.jpg
:thumbsup:

Jason in LA
01-28-2011, 06:05 PM
I think it's great that Cecil is involved, but it does appear that he is too involved.

Makes me think of how involved I am with my high school son's athletic career. I'm guiding him now, because high school coaches really don't get athletes to the next level. They don't have the time or resources. But I don't say anything to the coaches about playing time or what they should be doing. I help my son be the best individual player that he can be, which will get him the playing time he needs. If he does get a college scholarship, well then I'm pretty much done. He'll have top notch coaching for free, so I won't have to do anything but kick back. Hmmm, maybe I'll get a job as a lifeguard in Santa Monica and live right on the beach. lol

Cecil seems like he hasn't figured out that at some point he needs to let go... to a certain extent. He needs to always be an adviser to his son on a personal level. Like making sure he understands how to manage his money and fame. But as far as his son's athletic career, it's time to let go and let people who are paid to do those things do their job.

epicSocialism4tw
01-28-2011, 07:56 PM
I think it's great that Cecil is involved, but it does appear that he is too involved.

Makes me think of how involved I am with my high school son's athletic career. I'm guiding him now, because high school coaches really don't get athletes to the next level. They don't have the time or resources. But I don't say anything to the coaches about playing time or what they should be doing. I help my son be the best individual player that he can be, which will get him the playing time he needs. If he does get a college scholarship, well then I'm pretty much done. He'll have top notch coaching for free, so I won't have to do anything but kick back. Hmmm, maybe I'll get a job as a lifeguard in Santa Monica and live right on the beach. lol

Cecil seems like he hasn't figured out that at some point he needs to let go... to a certain extent. He needs to always be an adviser to his son on a personal level. Like making sure he understands how to manage his money and fame. But as far as his son's athletic career, it's time to let go and let people who are paid to do those things do their job.

Yep. If daddy keeps buzzing around the facilities and forcing his way into conversations he shouldnt be in, its going to reflect poorly on Cam. Its just not professional.

It just isnt Pop Warner anymore, and nobody elses daddy is buzzing around the facilities.

Is Cam's dad going to threaten to take his boy to another team if he doesnt get the playing time he needs to get his bonuses? ;D

oubronco
01-28-2011, 08:44 PM
Yep. If daddy keeps buzzing around the facilities and forcing his way into conversations he shouldnt be in, its going to reflect poorly on Cam. Its just not professional.

It just isnt Pop Warner anymore, and nobody elses daddy is buzzing around the facilities.

Is Cam's dad going to threaten to take his boy to another team if he doesnt get the playing time he needs to get his bonuses? ;D

As funny as it seems I could see him doing this

Dudeskey
01-28-2011, 09:23 PM
This sort of carries a Jack Cutler kind of stench...™

oubronco
01-31-2011, 07:22 AM
One NFL front office executive tells CBS Sports that he believes Auburn QB Cam Newton's February 10 individual workout is no more than a "publicity stunt."

It's pretty unprecedented for a draft prospect to hold a pre-Combine workout, and CBS' Rob Rang suggests it may be perceived as Cecil Newton's attempt to "upstage" the NFL and its Combine. Media only will be allowed to watch the workout. Scouts won't be there. Said one NFL scout, "The Newtons would be best to realize they aren't in college anymore. ... They could wind up turning more people against them than for them with this." Jan. 30 - 10:49 pm et
Source: CBS Sports (http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/27305246?source=rss_blogs_NFL%20Draft)

kappys
01-31-2011, 07:49 AM
Its a fine line - and Cecil seems to be pushing it. I remember back when I was that age - putting a multi-million dollar contract in front of me could have lead to all sorts of trouble. Hell I still consult with my dad on all sorts of things from contracts, to retirement planning, insurance coverages, etc. He's a valuable resource on those matters. Its good for such a young kid to have parental involvement.

Unfortunately I think that oubronco's quote from the scout is probably dead on - this type of stunt could certainly backfire.

Jason in LA
01-31-2011, 08:36 AM
Its a fine line - and Cecil seems to be pushing it. I remember back when I was that age - putting a multi-million dollar contract in front of me could have lead to all sorts of trouble. Hell I still consult with my dad on all sorts of things from contracts, to retirement planning, insurance coverages, etc. He's a valuable resource on those matters. Its good for such a young kid to have parental involvement.

Unfortunately I think that oubronco's quote from the scout is probably dead on - this type of stunt could certainly backfire.

I agree, and like I said in my last post on this thread, it's great that Cecil is involved with his son. Cam probably wouldn't have made it this far without Cecil. But Cecil needs to understand that the higher Cam gets, the more he's going to have to let go. There are systems in place, and Cam needs to work within those systems. Cecil needs to continue to be an adviser on a personal level, but when it comes to his son's athletic career, it's time to let go.

gyldenlove
01-31-2011, 08:52 AM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/donblog/lindrosDraft.jpg

That is exactly what I was thinking, an overzealous parent and a kid with no balls can be toxic.

gyldenlove
01-31-2011, 08:54 AM
One NFL front office executive tells CBS Sports that he believes Auburn QB Cam Newton's February 10 individual workout is no more than a "publicity stunt."

It's pretty unprecedented for a draft prospect to hold a pre-Combine workout, and CBS' Rob Rang suggests it may be perceived as Cecil Newton's attempt to "upstage" the NFL and its Combine. Media only will be allowed to watch the workout. Scouts won't be there. Said one NFL scout, "The Newtons would be best to realize they aren't in college anymore. ... They could wind up turning more people against them than for them with this." Jan. 30 - 10:49 pm et
Source: CBS Sports (http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/27305246?source=rss_blogs_NFL%20Draft)

Does anyone else feel this is a poor immitation of the Tim Tebow workout from last year?

Tebow spent well over a month retooling his throwing motion and footwork and held a private workout to show off how far he had come, this is purely a media stunt, if you are a QB and you can get a lot better from 4 days of practice you are not ready for the NFL.

lostknight
01-31-2011, 09:29 AM
Does anyone else feel this is a poor immitation of the Tim Tebow workout from last year?


Actually, NFL Network keeps talking over and over and over about Quarterbacks "pulling a Tebow" to prove that they are ready for the NFL. Kapernick in particular. Honestly, the quality of the QB's coming out is so poor right now, Kapernick could sneak in there. Locker looked aweful all week, and NFL teams are taking note of the Newton disaster. My guess is that Dallas or Oakland picks him up, and everyone else steers clear.


Tebow spent well over a month retooling his throwing motion and footwork and held a private workout to show off how far he had come, this is purely a media stunt, if you are a QB and you can get a lot better from 4 days of practice you are not ready for the NFL.

Yep, the key reason sports guys won't be there is because they don't want anyone there who might point out how poor the guy is at reading defenses (which, unlike Tebow, he has never done) or dropping back from center.

Riley
01-31-2011, 03:51 PM
I hope Cam absolutely crushes every workout he participates in. The best possible scenario for us is the Cam Newton hype train starts rolling, and as a result we are able to trade down from 2. This is especially true if Fairley is off the board at 1. Trade back to somewhere between 5-8, still nab an impact front seven player, and net some additional high picks.

I fully expect Carolina to take Fairley.

Don't you think that there are a few teams who would be interested to trade up to snag Peterson?
We don't need a CB if we sign Champ... we'd get an extra pick...

Lord knows we need more picks...

I think Dallas is very interested in Peterson....

StugotsIII
01-31-2011, 04:38 PM
If Newton has a HUGE combine, pro day and personal workout he COULD go #1.


Carolina is in need of a QB as every QB on their roster sucks. They may also try to trade out of that spot...

Boltjolt
01-31-2011, 05:23 PM
I think it is a great deal to have your Dad involved. If you want to cut ties with the son, you can always get the father to turn in the playbook.

Hey, it worked out well for Marinovich. Oh, wait!

oubronco
02-08-2011, 08:59 AM
Funny Billboard Photo regarding Cam Newton from Miss St
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oubronco
02-24-2011, 09:15 AM
:spit: Hilarious!





Gil Brandt would be “shocked” if Cam Newton isn’t taken first overall

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/22/gil-brandt-would-be-shocked-if-cam-newton-isnt-taken-first-overall/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/22/gil-brandt-would-be-shocked-if-cam-newton-isnt-taken-first-overall/)

Former Cowboys personnel man Gil Brandt was a draft guru even before other NFL teams had true draft gurus.

So we take his accrued experience seriously, and his experience says that talent always wins out in the draft. And Brandt thinks Auburn quarterback Cam Newton is the most talented player available.

“It would shock me . . . if he’s not the first player picked,” Brandt told the Forth Worth Star-Telegram on Monday. “If I was drafting and I had Carolina’s [No. 1] pick, I’d feel really good about who I was getting as far as ability. I just hope he realizes how hard he needs to work.”

Draftniks have gone from projecting Newton as a late first-round pick to a top-five selection. Nothing has really changed for Newton since the BCS title game, but this is the time of year that draft analysts usually start learning how the NFL actually views players. Then they adjust their own rankings to more closely match those views. (Gotta nail those Mock drafts!)

Brandt now writes for NFL.com as a draft analyst; his job is to get a feel for how NFL teams see prospects. We suspect he’s not the only one with this opinion on Newton.

epicSocialism4tw
02-24-2011, 09:26 AM
That would be great.

The truth is that the quick success of Tebow, it may convince some to be more open to taking a player like Newton.

BroncoMan4ever
02-24-2011, 09:36 AM
i have to wonder about the Newton situation. On the one hand there is an unbelievable amount of athletic talent, but on the other there is what may be a bad attitude and feeling of superiority without having reallyf accomplished anything. As well as the thoughts that teams may not only be dealing with him and his agent but also his dad.

i don't think he will go number 1 for that 1 reason. if his dad keeps butting in eventually teams are going to think he is too immature for the NFL.

Cito Pelon
02-24-2011, 10:20 AM
:spit: Hilarious!





Gil Brandt would be “shocked” if Cam Newton isn’t taken first overall

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/22/gil-brandt-would-be-shocked-if-cam-newton-isnt-taken-first-overall/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/22/gil-brandt-would-be-shocked-if-cam-newton-isnt-taken-first-overall/)

Former Cowboys personnel man Gil Brandt was a draft guru even before other NFL teams had true draft gurus.

So we take his accrued experience seriously, and his experience says that talent always wins out in the draft. And Brandt thinks Auburn quarterback Cam Newton is the most talented player available.

“It would shock me . . . if he’s not the first player picked,” Brandt told the Forth Worth Star-Telegram on Monday. “If I was drafting and I had Carolina’s [No. 1] pick, I’d feel really good about who I was getting as far as ability. I just hope he realizes how hard he needs to work.”

Draftniks have gone from projecting Newton as a late first-round pick to a top-five selection. Nothing has really changed for Newton since the BCS title game, but this is the time of year that draft analysts usually start learning how the NFL actually views players. Then they adjust their own rankings to more closely match those views. (Gotta nail those Mock drafts!)

Brandt now writes for NFL.com as a draft analyst; his job is to get a feel for how NFL teams see prospects. We suspect he’s not the only one with this opinion on Newton.

If Newton does not go #1 overall, I wonder if he'll get enough hype through the combine and a Pro Day (like Stugots says) that some QB hungry team will be willing to trade up to #2.

That could be a good scenario for Denver. There's some QB-hungry teams out there that could possibly want Newton, or Gabbert, and don't want to be scooped. The more hype on those two the better, IMO.

QB-hungry teams (other than Carolina):

3. Buffalo
4. Cincy
5. Zona
7. SF
8. Tenn
10. Wash (I see some mocks have Shanny taking Newton at #10)
12. Minny
15. Miami
16. JAX
25. SEA

It's gonna be interesting how the QB sweepstakes play out. And one has to consider also what trades could happen if a CBA comes to pass with Orton and maybe Leinart, Kolb, Vince Young up for trades.

Pony Boy
02-24-2011, 10:32 AM
When Gil Brandt speaks people listen and he has no reason to blow smoke. I hope he's right and if we can get Fairley, I will be shickled titless......

Cito Pelon
02-24-2011, 10:41 AM
CBS reports Cam Newton and Carolina owner Jerry Richardson will have private meeting prior to the draft.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/14734104

24champ
02-24-2011, 11:03 AM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/donblog/lindrosDraft.jpg

Bingo. This is the NFL Lindros saga...

BroncoBuff
02-24-2011, 12:44 PM
Reminds me of Macauly Culkin's dad. Almost looks like Cecil is living vicariously through his son. I feel sorry for the NFL team who drafts Newton only to have his dad attached like a chihuahua in heat.

Goooo Raiders!

Al will love this kid.

epicSocialism4tw
02-24-2011, 01:50 PM
Goooo Raiders!

Al will love this kid.

He's like a super Jamarcus Russell.