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Gutless Drunk
01-26-2011, 11:01 AM
he is on our team. I missed him Looking forward to having him back

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PRBronco
01-26-2011, 11:05 AM
No one watch this while sitting on the toilet!

epicSocialism4tw
01-26-2011, 11:09 AM
He absolutely torched that RT #78.

bowtown
01-26-2011, 11:13 AM
Trade him now while we still can. I'm so tired of this team always having people who can rush the passer.

bronclvr
01-26-2011, 11:14 AM
I wonder how is Rehab is coming along-

Gutless Drunk
01-26-2011, 11:14 AM
He was pretty damn good in 2007

oubronco
01-26-2011, 11:15 AM
He was pretty damn good in 2007

Thank you Shanny

footstepsfrom#27
01-26-2011, 11:17 AM
Dumervil presents a dilemna if we are switching to a 4-3 defense because at the rate he's being paid he's not a full time answer there, but I think he'd be amazing in some kind of hybrid defense, which if reports are true, that might be Fox's thinking. I'd like to see him used all over the field like they used to use Mecklenberg. Line this guy up everywhere and switch him from the DE spot to a standup pass rusher guy, drop him into zone coverage...use him like the wild card playmaker. I favor a defense with playmakers and a system that allows players to attack, and that sounds like the direction...if so it would be SUCH welcome news. I'm sick of the finess defenses.

BroncosMT
01-26-2011, 11:17 AM
I wonder how is Rehab is coming along-

I was wondering the same thing....hasn't been much about it

Dedhed
01-26-2011, 11:18 AM
Stud! Can't wait to have him back.

Dedhed
01-26-2011, 11:19 AM
Thank you Shanny

Must you be a total lackey in every thread?

PRBronco
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Trade him now while we still can. I'm so tired of this team always having people who can rush the passer.

Package him with Lloyd for moar shutdown corners, then draft shutdown corners, then WIN.

oubronco
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Dumervil presents a dilemna if we are switching to a 4-3 defense because at the rate he's being paid he's not a full time answer there, but I think he'd be amazing in some kind of hybrid defense, which if reports are true, that might be Fox's thinking. I'd like to see him used all over the field like they used to use Mecklenberg. Line this guy up everywhere and switch him from the DE spot to a standup pass rusher guy, drop him into zone coverage...use him like the wild card playmaker. I favor a defense with playmakers and a system that allows players to attack, and that sounds like the direction...if so it would be SUCH welcome news. I'm sick of the finess defenses.

If we could swing Dareus and Paea or Taylor and stay with the 3-4 Doom would be unstoppable

oubronco
01-26-2011, 11:21 AM
Must you be a total lackey in every thread?

What do you mean if it weren't for Shanny we wouldn't have Doom

PRBronco
01-26-2011, 11:21 AM
Thank you Shanny

For drafting two capable defensive linemen in 13 ****ing years.

oubronco
01-26-2011, 11:22 AM
For drafting two capable defensive lineman in 13 ****ing years.

At least he got this one right

bowtown
01-26-2011, 11:25 AM
Package him with Lloyd for moar shutdown corners, then draft shutdown corners, then WIN.

+infinattys

Gutless Drunk
01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
"Dennis Allen doesn't see the Broncos' depth chart as being half empty.

But I think we've got a good nucleus, we've just got to tie up a few loose ends and we'll be fine," Allen said. "I think there's a lot more there than meets the eye. I think we'll be able to get the defense better, that we'll be competitive."

Competitive would be a vast improvement over recent seasons. The Broncos are one of only three teams in the league St. Louis and Detroit are the others that have surrendered at least 400 points in three of the past four years. Denver is the only one of the three that did it during the 2010 season.

When all was said and done in 2010, the Broncos ranked last in the 32-team league in points allowed per game (29.4), last in sacks (23) and last in yards allowed per game (390.8). The Broncos also were tied for 30th in interceptions with 10. They didn't have a player with more than two interceptions.

Allen said Tuesday he believed the return of Elvis Dumervil, the 2009 NFL champion in sacks who missed the 2010 season because of a chest muscle injury, would immediately be a quality starting point as the Broncos begin to rebuild their roster for the likely shift from a 3-4 scheme to a 4-3.

"I know as a secondary coach, you want anybody who can rush the passer," Allen said.


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footstepsfrom#27
01-26-2011, 11:31 AM
If we could swing Dareus and Paea or Taylor and stay with the 3-4 Doom would be unstoppable
True. He would improve next to virtually any top talent next to him on the line. I think he'd also be easier to start if we had a big time linebacker on the weak side who presented his own problems for defenses off the edge. This guy would need to be big enough to shed blocks, fast enough to seal the edge of Doom gets engulfed at the POA by some 350 pound tackle. It would need to be a guy who can play outside in either defensive configuration. The one guy in the draft who seems to match all that for me is Akeem Ayers. He's 6'4", 255 and people think he can get even bigger by 10-15 pounds and still barely reduce his speed. This guy needs to be coached up a little on some technique and strengthen his mechanics when he tackles but he's big enough to stuff the run, fast enough to run with TE's and backs and would look very nice lined up next to Doom as a dual threat off the edge. He makes plays, which is what I like most about him. The only way this happens is if we trade up or down, and I want Peterson to much to get rid of that #2. We could probably get up there with the ammo we have in the 2nd though. If it came downto him or Paea, I'd take Paea because he's the big inside run stuffer who can get upfield and rush the passer too, and he might prove to be as good as Fairley at the next level. But Ayers would be a nice consolation prize. Then we take advantage of a deep draft to snag another DT like the UNC kid in the 2nd or 3rd round.

With all the talk about the D-line, we need playmakers just as much and we have almost none.

Dedhed
01-26-2011, 11:36 AM
What do you mean if it weren't for Shanny we wouldn't have Doom


I get it. I just wonder why you feel the need to be Shanny's fanboy in every thread.

Get over it.

Drek
01-26-2011, 11:41 AM
Dumervil presents a dilemna if we are switching to a 4-3 defense because at the rate he's being paid he's not a full time answer there, but I think he'd be amazing in some kind of hybrid defense, which if reports are true, that might be Fox's thinking. I'd like to see him used all over the field like they used to use Mecklenberg. Line this guy up everywhere and switch him from the DE spot to a standup pass rusher guy, drop him into zone coverage...use him like the wild card playmaker. I favor a defense with playmakers and a system that allows players to attack, and that sounds like the direction...if so it would be SUCH welcome news. I'm sick of the finess defenses.

I think this is very likely. Fox has talked about how the differences between 3-4 and 4-3 aren't what a defense is all about, he has familiarity in both fronts himself. He now is adding a DC who has been working with a team that likes to mix up its 4-3 and 3-4 fronts quite a bit, and retained a DL coach who has worked predominantly with 3-4 lines.

Using Doom and Ayers each as DE/OLB types who can move around and confuse defenses will work great if we put some real size and power at the DT/NT positions. Dareus and Paea would be fantastic choices to that end.

Missouribronc
01-26-2011, 12:08 PM
I hope he comes back as strong as he was at the beginning of the 2009 season. He was a beast.

Blart
01-26-2011, 12:11 PM
Each of those sacks would probably cost us 15 yards now.

Gort
01-26-2011, 12:12 PM
Package him with Lloyd for moar shutdown corners, then draft shutdown corners, then WIN.

stranger things have happened. 2 years ago in Dove Valley, the Denver Broncos' strategy was:

1) Hire Josh McDaniels
2) ?
3) Profit

PRBronco
01-26-2011, 12:20 PM
I think this is very likely. Fox has talked about how the differences between 3-4 and 4-3 aren't what a defense is all about, he has familiarity in both fronts himself. He now is adding a DC who has been working with a team that likes to mix up its 4-3 and 3-4 fronts quite a bit, and retained a DL coach who has worked predominantly with 3-4 lines.

Using Doom and Ayers each as DE/OLB types who can move around and confuse defenses will work great if we put some real size and power at the DT/NT positions. Dareus and Paea would be fantastic choices to that end.

Kind of like the Ravens defence?

broncocalijohn
01-26-2011, 12:29 PM
I get it. I just wonder why you feel the need to be Shanny's fanboy in every thread.

Get over it.

Well with JHNS on the Cutler nuts, someone needs to be teabagged with an ex coach.

Get two DT and with Elvis back, the 3-4 should be sooo much better. Our CB will enjoy some decent pressure on the QB.

oubronco
01-26-2011, 12:38 PM
I get it. I just wonder why you feel the need to be Shanny's fanboy in every thread.

Get over it.

I don't know what your talking about you definitely got me confused with someone else

Inkana7
01-26-2011, 01:11 PM
Haha Eric Mangini is the Cutler of NFL Coaches.

Dedhed
01-26-2011, 01:23 PM
I don't know what your talking about you definitely got me confused with someone else

The only reason to "Thank Shanny" in this thread is to engender a debate that is going on in 40 other threads.

oubronco
01-26-2011, 01:27 PM
The only reason to "Thank Shanny" in this thread is to engender a debate that is going on in 40 other threads.

Whatever, I guess you and the such neverendingly bagging on Cutler makes it a whole lot better right

carry on

jhns
01-26-2011, 01:34 PM
Well with JHNS on the Cutler nuts, someone needs to be teabagged with an ex coach.


I don't know, I have the Shanny fanboy thing pretty much taken care of as well. It is just harder to get debates going about him now that McDaniels is gone.

Now to act like I am not completely off topic:

Elvis will provide a nice spark in the defense when he gets back. It will be nice seeing at least one guy get to the QB next season. I hope we can get him a lot of help in the next two offseasons.

Dedhed
01-26-2011, 01:52 PM
Whatever, I guess you and the such neverendingly bagging on Cutler makes it a whole lot better right


Bagging on Cutler's most recent flop, which was 3 days ago, is a bit different than conjuring the ghost of Shanahan.

oubronco
01-26-2011, 02:06 PM
Bagging on Cutler's most recent flop, which was 3 days ago, is a bit different than conjuring the ghost of Shanahan.

keep humpin that chicken

Orange&BlueMohawk
01-27-2011, 01:04 PM
This why I call him " The Doom-bringer"

I hope it sticks.