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Slade
01-26-2011, 08:54 AM
Haven't heard any buzz about this guy, but sounds like he is doing well at the Senior Bowl

Baylor DT Phil Taylor continues to impress; hes an immovable object at almost 340 pounds. They even triple teamed him in scrimmage on passing plays, but he was still throwing people around including undersized Florida State OG Rodney Hudson. Taylor shows surprising agility for his size and certainly isnt this year's Mount Cody; Taylor looks like hell be a full time player for some 4-3 scheme. Meanwhile, Hudson generally continually compensated for his lack of height and bulk with tenacity and technique and may ultimately project to C at the next level.
http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlreport.htm

Slade
01-26-2011, 08:56 AM
Also Cedric Thornton is a guy I've never heard of...any one know anything about these guys?

Another surprise was Southern Arkansas DT Cedric Thornton who was almost unblockable. He ate up Auburn OT Lee Ziemba who had moved inside to OG. Thornton looked quick and agile with great balance and speed in drill work. And while Ziemba struggled inside at OG, Georgia G/T Clint Boling fared no better moving outside to OT for a while.

Missouribronc
01-26-2011, 08:57 AM
Denver definitely needs playmakers along the defensive line. I'm surprised they peg him as a 4-3 because of his size. Because so many teams have changed to a 3-4, he's likely to go higher, because of that. It is interesting that the notable player he was "throwing around" in the report was an undersized guard. I'm not knocking him, I just think that's funny.

Slade
01-26-2011, 08:57 AM
Stanford DT Sione Fua may have been the story of the day. He was close to dominant inside with great, functional strength and above average quickness. He also got great leverage by staying low as he either penetrates or stones the line-of-scrimmage versus opponents‘ run blocking. Fua came to Mobile looking to show NFL teams that he can play in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme and so far appears to be doing it.

Kaylore
01-26-2011, 09:00 AM
Taylor was getting praise for using his hands in the pass rush drills. The thing on those you have to remember is they don't have to think about run or pass so the D-linemen are teeing off.

Boss Man
01-26-2011, 09:02 AM
if some how we could land taylor and fairley, i would go ape**** with excitement.

Slade
01-26-2011, 09:03 AM
This kid from Stanford is killin it I guess

SIONE FUA/DT/#92 is the best inside DL on the NORTH roster. He is strong and tough, but he also shows nice athleticism and very good use of the leverage advantage he has at 6’2 against most of the OL he faces. I still think he is best suited or a 3-4 NT slot, but he has enough quicks to function in a 4-3. When not getting pocket pressure he absolutely stones the line-of-scrimmage so that the lB corps can get to the ball. He is helping his DRAFT stock greatly so far.

And he is a polite, bright young man. I spent a half-hour at dinner Monday night just chatting. He claims no resentment from the STANFORD team at the departure of HC HARBAUGH to the 49‘ers. he told me that HARBAUGH had told the team he would never leave them for another college job (sorry MICHIGAN) but his dream was to coach in the NFL.
http://www.pigskinpaul.com/Pigskin_Pauls_Place/Home/Entries/2011/1/24_ALL-STAR_ACTION_2011.html

Bigdawg26
01-26-2011, 09:06 AM
I would love to get a BIG kris jenkins/bj raji type linemen like phil taylor if we can get him in the second. It would be awesome if we could grab peterson with the second, and taylor,and kerrigan (if we trade orton for second rounder). That would instantly improve our d. Our d-line would be doom,talyor,bannan,ayers with thomas,vickerson rotating a dt and kerrigan rotating in at DE. Would be pretty awesome!

Slade
01-26-2011, 09:07 AM
Speaking of Kerrigan, he looksa great also:

RYAN KERRIGAN is a quick-twitch player who uses his quickness to get past blockers before they can get their hands solidly on them. he is also a relentless chaser of the ball and/or the QB. His overall size and game remind me a great deal of JARED ALLEN. But because he played in the Big Ten i think he’s more ready for the pro game than ALLEN was at first. He plays smart, but also like his hair is on fire under that helmet.

HAT
01-26-2011, 09:15 AM
Fua is a stud. I don't get why most draft sites have him going after Taylor & Powe @ NT. And if Fox/Allen really are going to run a hybrid 34/43 he's a better fit at 310. Taylor's weight is a big red flag.

Rohirrim
01-26-2011, 09:17 AM
I've watched a few Stanford games this year and you hear Fua's name called out a lot. He's a player.

schaaf
01-26-2011, 09:19 AM
I've watched a few Stanford games this year and you hear Fua's name called out a lot. He's a player.

haha man I can't take you seriously with your avatar, it really creeps me out

epicSocialism4tw
01-26-2011, 09:19 AM
This kid from Stanford is killin it I guess

SIONE FUA/DT/#92 is the best inside DL on the NORTH roster. He is strong and tough, but he also shows nice athleticism and very good use of the leverage advantage he has at 62 against most of the OL he faces. I still think he is best suited or a 3-4 NT slot, but he has enough quicks to function in a 4-3. When not getting pocket pressure he absolutely stones the line-of-scrimmage so that the lB corps can get to the ball. He is helping his DRAFT stock greatly so far.

And he is a polite, bright young man. I spent a half-hour at dinner Monday night just chatting. He claims no resentment from the STANFORD team at the departure of HC HARBAUGH to the 49ers. he told me that HARBAUGH had told the team he would never leave them for another college job (sorry MICHIGAN) but his dream was to coach in the NFL.
http://www.pigskinpaul.com/Pigskin_Pauls_Place/Home/Entries/2011/1/24_ALL-STAR_ACTION_2011.html

Draft every pacific islander we can get our hands on. :strong:

Bigdawg26
01-26-2011, 09:25 AM
Speaking of Kerrigan, he looksa great also:

RYAN KERRIGAN is a quick-twitch player who uses his quickness to get past blockers before they can get their hands solidly on them. he is also a relentless chaser of the ball and/or the QB. His overall size and game remind me a great deal of JARED ALLEN. But because he played in the Big Ten i think hes more ready for the pro game than ALLEN was at first. He plays smart, but also like his hair is on fire under that helmet.

Yeah that guys is going to be a good player. In all four years he has had at least 7 sacks and his numbers rose each year. He will be a 10 year starter with consistency at least 7 sacks a season. He would be a real steal in the second round.

PRBronco
01-26-2011, 09:30 AM
Yeah that guys is going to be a good player. In all four years he has had at least 7 sacks and his numbers rose each year. He will be a 10 year starter with consistency at least 7 sacks a season. He would be a real steal in the second round.

Has Bieber hair. Pass.

PRBronco
01-26-2011, 09:31 AM
Fua is a stud. I don't get why most draft sites have him going after Taylor & Powe @ NT. And if Fox/Allen really are going to run a hybrid 34/43 he's a better fit at 310. Taylor's weight is a big red flag.

Notes on Taylor from the weigh in: "Carries size REAL well. Big man! Not flabby at all."

(from draftcountdown)

TheReverend
01-26-2011, 01:03 PM
Long time fan of Taylor, Fua reminds me WAY too much of former "also looks great doing drills" Somoan lineman with nearly identical measurables and lack of production: Isaac Sopoaga.

Say yes to Taylor, let some other retards bust on Fua in the 4th round.

srphoenix
01-26-2011, 01:12 PM
I read somewhere that Paea was injured during practices here, torn miniscus or something like that, how long of a recovery does that present? Any chance he would drop into the second?

Baba Booey
01-26-2011, 01:15 PM
I would be ecstatic if we picked up Taylor in the 2nd.

footstepsfrom#27
01-26-2011, 01:16 PM
Taylor was being thought of as a 3rd round pick just a short time ago. He seems like a NT in the 3-4 and there aren't many of those. It will be interesting to see what where he ultimately goes.

Bigdawg26
01-26-2011, 01:18 PM
Phil talyor reminds me of Shaun Rogers. I tell ya honestly I would rather grab him instead of farley or dareus and trade back and grab some picks then pick peterson. Just imagine this defense
DE- Doom, Kerrigan
DT- Taylor, Bannan
Reserves- Thomas, Ayers, Vickerson, Hunter
OLB- Williams, FA
MLB-Matthews
Reserves- Mays, Haggins
CB-Peterson, Cox
FS-Champ(ball hawk ie Sharper with the saints)
SS-Dawkins(in the box ie Roman Harper with the saints)
Reserves- Mcbeth, Syd, FA cb, draft pick S

oubronco
01-26-2011, 01:18 PM
A huge NT like Taylor will not last till the 3rd round they are too hard to find and don't come around too often if he's there with our early 2nd I would be surprised

Jetmeck
01-26-2011, 01:21 PM
I'll take them all.....................lol

footstepsfrom#27
01-26-2011, 01:33 PM
I read somewhere that Paea was injured during practices here, torn miniscus or something like that, how long of a recovery does that present? Any chance he would drop into the second?
If he does, can we afford to risk it anyway? It's very unfortunate for that guy, as he was moving towards the up the board.

bendog
01-26-2011, 01:37 PM
I think the dreaded torn miniscus is pretty common. Now if a guy's been scoped to having Stinky type knees, it's another issue. I'm looking forward to Paea at the combine. He's a workout warrior, so does he have any upside left and is he strong-big/fast enough to be dominant at the next level.

Aftermath
01-26-2011, 04:34 PM
with one of our 2nd rounders or our third i would LOVE for Denver to select MLB Greg Jones from Michigan State. He is a beast!!!!!!!

http://www.seniorbowl.com/playerinfo.asp?ID=375

TheReverend
01-26-2011, 04:38 PM
with one of our 2nd rounders or our third i would LOVE for Denver to select MLB Greg Jones from Michigan State. He is a beast!!!!!!!

http://www.seniorbowl.com/playerinfo.asp?ID=375

Yup. I'm extremely down with taking this guy

SonOfLe-loLang
01-26-2011, 04:38 PM
with one of our 2nd rounders or our third i would LOVE for Denver to select MLB Greg Jones from Michigan State. He is a beast!!!!!!!

http://www.seniorbowl.com/playerinfo.asp?ID=375

apparently hes doing a poor job at the practices

schaaf
01-26-2011, 04:40 PM
apparently hes doing a poor job at the practices

How do you know?

I'm curious if there is a website that is grading each player's practice. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't have NFL Network and would like a little more info about it

PRBronco
01-26-2011, 04:47 PM
How do you know?

I'm curious if there is a website that is grading each player's practice. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't have NFL Network and would like a little more info about it

So many people are reporting on it this year, seems like a lot of reports are contradicting other ones.

You can check draftcountdown.com, profootballweekly, national football post, and a bunch of other indepent draft sites I can't recall.

footstepsfrom#27
01-26-2011, 05:12 PM
NFLN doing pretty well with their coverage of Senior Bowl practices.

mhgaffney
01-26-2011, 07:18 PM
haha man I can't take you seriously with your avatar, it really creeps me out

Speaking of avatars - didn't you know?

Ro's is a surrogate. haha

oubronco
01-27-2011, 12:51 PM
According to NFL Network's Mike Mayock, Oregon State DT Stephen Paea (knee scope) still has a chance to participate in February's Combine.

Mayock confirms that Paea's lateral meniscus surgery "was not major," and at the very least it appears he'll be 100 percent by the Beavers' Pro Day this spring. It's great news for the potential late first-round selection.

oubronco
01-27-2011, 12:57 PM
Baylor NT Phil Taylor intends to shed 5-10 more pounds before February's Scouting Combine.

He's shed 30 lbs since his junior year. A true nose tackle, Taylor measured 6'4/337 at Monday's weigh-in and has impressed in practices. He's shaping up as a poor man's Terrence Cody and possible second-day selection.
Source: Washington Post (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/nfl-draft/baylors-phil-taylor-is-biggest.html?wprss=redskinsinsider)

oubronco
01-27-2011, 12:58 PM
Behind quarterback, GM Marty Hurney called defensive tackle the Panthers' No. 2 need entering the offseason.

The Panthers have so many needs that they shouldn't struggle to draft the best player available. They're meeting Tuesday night with LSU CB Patrick Peterson. Hurney did call Auburn DT Nick Fairley "obviously ... an impact player inside." The Panthers are sticking with a 4-3, so Fairley would play the "three technique" position, where incumbent Derek Landri is a free agent.
Source: Charlotte Observer (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/01/25/2009472/hurney-qb-is-panthers-no-1-need.html#)

footstepsfrom#27
01-27-2011, 01:55 PM
Baylor NT Phil Taylor intends to shed 5-10 more pounds before February's Scouting Combine.

He's shed 30 lbs since his junior year. A true nose tackle, Taylor measured 6'4/337 at Monday's weigh-in and has impressed in practices. He's shaping up as a poor man's Terrence Cody and possible second-day selection.
Source: Washington Post (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/nfl-draft/baylors-phil-taylor-is-biggest.html?wprss=redskinsinsider)
Second day? NT's are at a premium, witness BJ Raji's selection last year. He'll go 3rd or even higher I'm betting. Do we want him? Maybe...I haven't seen enough of him yet to know but I'm hoping we somehow land Paea since his injury isn't considered serious.

CEH
01-27-2011, 01:57 PM
Second day? NT's are at a premium, witness BJ Raji's selection last year. He'll go 3rd or even higher I'm betting. Do we want him? Maybe...I haven't seen enough of him yet to know but I'm hoping we somehow land Paea since his injury isn't considered serious.

Second day is now 2nd round correct?

Drek
01-27-2011, 02:34 PM
with one of our 2nd rounders or our third i would LOVE for Denver to select MLB Greg Jones from Michigan State. He is a beast!!!!!!!

http://www.seniorbowl.com/playerinfo.asp?ID=375

Supposedly dropping like a rock because he's "short".

I'd be all for him in the 2nd as well, but if he doesn't blow up at the combine we might even be able to snag him in the early 3rd.

bendog
01-27-2011, 02:44 PM
That's impressive self-conditioning if Taylor can do it. He's second rd potential. He's a NT, but he could possibly fit in a 4-3 with a Monte Reagor type in the mix.

sgbfan
01-27-2011, 02:45 PM
Second day is now 2nd round correct?

Yep. 2nd and third

PRBronco
01-27-2011, 02:59 PM
Supposedly dropping like a rock because he's "short".

I'd be all for him in the 2nd as well, but if he doesn't blow up at the combine we might even be able to snag him in the early 3rd.

Man, I hate "short" inside linebackers.

http://www.1043thefan.com/Pics/alfredAndD-Mac/al_wilson.jpg

bronco0608
01-27-2011, 06:22 PM
Taylor is what he is: a big guy.

When a guy has two sacks in college, he is going to have one sack in the NFL.

He might be a good run stuffer, who knows. But he is far from dominant against college players. Everyone keeps saying he can play the one gap, but its not there.

Fine for a 3-4 nose tackle, other than that, if we play 4-3, I wouldn't even take him in the third round.

schaaf
01-27-2011, 06:28 PM
Is Jones a Middle Linebacker or is he an OLB I've seen reports of both???

footstepsfrom#27
01-27-2011, 06:30 PM
Second day is now 2nd round correct?
I guess so...I was thinking 3rd but yeah I think that's right.

Requiem
01-27-2011, 06:35 PM
Is Jones a Middle Linebacker or is he an OLB I've seen reports of both???

He played ILB. Some view him as a 3-4 ILB, but some are saying his best fit is at WLB in a 4-3.

Personally, I think he can play MIKE in a 4-3 easily. What he doesn't have in height he makes up with great instincts. He is a very cerebral player and one of my favorites in the draft. I'd take him at any of our second rounders.

razorwire77
01-27-2011, 06:38 PM
with one of our 2nd rounders or our third i would LOVE for Denver to select MLB Greg Jones from Michigan State. He is a beast!!!!!!!

http://www.seniorbowl.com/playerinfo.asp?ID=375

This kid would be an instant starter for us.

Ayers or DE Draft pick (Bowers)
Bannan/FA signing
Williams or DT Draft pick (Fairley)
Doom Back

D.J.
Jones
???

Suddenly our front 7 looks less full of suck.


Ch

Broncos_OTM
01-27-2011, 06:45 PM
Phil talyor reminds me of Shaun Rogers. I tell ya honestly I would rather grab him instead of farley or dareus and trade back and grab some picks then pick peterson. Just imagine this defense
DE- Doom, Kerrigan
DT- Taylor, Bannan
Reserves- Thomas, Ayers, Vickerson, Hunter
OLB- Williams, FA
MLB-Matthews
Reserves- Mays, Haggins
CB-Peterson, Cox
FS-Champ(ball hawk ie Sharper with the saints)
SS-Dawkins(in the box ie Roman Harper with the saints)
Reserves- Mcbeth, Syd, FA cb, draft pick S


so you are asking your DTs to play the run esclusivley? becuase none of those two guys are pentators.

schaaf
01-27-2011, 06:50 PM
He played ILB. Some view him as a 3-4 ILB, but some are saying his best fit is at WLB in a 4-3.

Personally, I think he can play MIKE in a 4-3 easily. What he doesn't have in height he makes up with great instincts. He is a very cerebral player and one of my favorites in the draft. I'd take him at any of our second rounders.

I agree, I want the Broncos to pick him up in the second more than any other player, I don't mind if we pick up Peterson or Bowers or Fairley but I really want Jones.

Requiem
01-27-2011, 06:54 PM
I agree, I want the Broncos to pick him up in the second more than any other player, I don't mind if we pick up Peterson or Bowers or Fairley but I really want Jones.

I'm very interested to see how he plays in the game with such talent in front of him on the DL. Most reports had him having an average week in Mobile. Hope he performs when it counts.

Dedhed
01-27-2011, 10:03 PM
It's great news for the potential late first-round selection.
I'm hoping he'll be a very early 2nd round selection.