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FantomForce
01-23-2011, 05:35 PM
Ah Cutler is the Lebron of Chicago and he didn't even leave.

http://www.dabears.com/showthread.php?35704-Report-Bears-fans-burning-Cutler-jerseys

Mogulseeker
01-23-2011, 05:37 PM
Don't know what the injury was, but he could have played through a little pain. Many good QBs play hurt.

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 05:38 PM
Ozzie Guillen's kids have 0 credibility, one of his sons got into a tweet fight with Bobby Jenks after he was traded.

I was at the 2006 game where duh bears clinched the division (on way to the SB) and saw a "fan" rip off his REXMAN jersey. They won that game.

Popps
01-23-2011, 05:39 PM
Why would Bears fans be upset? Jay pulling himself out of that game gave them their best chance of winning. He did what was best for the team.

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 05:39 PM
Don't know what the injury was, but he could have played through a little pain. Many good QBs play hurt.

You talking about Todd Collins or Cutler? Collins didn't look hurt either.

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 05:40 PM
Why would Bears fans be upset? Jay pulling himself out of that game gave them their best chance of winning. He did what was best for the team.

This is true.

Archer81
01-23-2011, 05:40 PM
Ozzie Guillen's kids have 0 credibility, one of his sons got into a tweet fight with Bobby Jenks after he was traded.

I was at the 2006 game where duh bears clinched the division (on way to the SB) and saw a "fan" rip off his REXMAN jersey. They won that game.


9's. Totally.


:Broncos:

maven
01-23-2011, 05:41 PM
Looks more like a Bear fan burning 1 Cutler jersey. Would like to see more pics. I have a Cutler orange 6 that I would toss in since it's buried deep in my closet somewhere and haven't worn it in years. Take it back, I'll just donate it when I donate my other clothes.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 05:43 PM
You talking about Todd Collins or Cutler? Collins didn't look hurt either.

Collins was benched.

TDmvp
01-23-2011, 05:45 PM
Proving some fans are stupid ... Beer + morons = pure comedy ...

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 05:45 PM
Collins was benched.

because he got hurt

Kaylore
01-23-2011, 05:45 PM
The good news is Cutler was the second worst QB on field today.

The bad news is Cutler was the second worst QB on the field today.

ghostofjosh
01-23-2011, 05:46 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cutler-s-NFL-contemporaries-go-after-him-on-Twit?urn=nfl-311321

other nfl players opinions...why the f can i never start new threads???is it a setting i need to change?

oubronco
01-23-2011, 05:46 PM
Why would Bears fans be upset? Jay pulling himself out of that game gave them their best chance of winning. He did what was best for the team.

After the game they said Lovie told him to sit down he was done don't know how much truth to it but there you go

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 05:48 PM
because he got hurt

No.

oubronco
01-23-2011, 05:48 PM
Looks more like a Bear fan burning 1 Cutler jersey. Would like to see more pics. I have a Cutler orange 6 that I would toss in since it's buried deep in my closet somewhere and haven't worn it in years. Take it back, I'll just donate it when I donate my other clothes.

Hell donate it right here i'll take it off your hands ;D

BroncoDoug
01-23-2011, 05:49 PM
You talking about Todd Collins or Cutler? Collins didn't look hurt either.

They said during the game that the put Haine in because he had more mobility. sounds to me like the coaching staff took out Collins

maven
01-23-2011, 05:49 PM
After the game they said Lovie told him to sit down he was done don't know how much truth to it but there you go

Elway smoking a cig, wearing his board shorts showing off his body, ready to bone some women. Like the avy pic.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 05:50 PM
They said during the game that the put Haine in because he had more mobility. sounds to me like the coaching staff took out CollinsThey did. Lovie said so in post game.

oubronco
01-23-2011, 05:52 PM
Elway smoking a cig, wearing his board shorts showing off his body, ready to bone some women. Like the avy pic.

Nothing wrong with that

That One Guy
01-23-2011, 05:52 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cutler-s-NFL-contemporaries-go-after-him-on-Twit?urn=nfl-311321

other nfl players opinions...why the f can i never start new threads???is it a setting i need to change?

Excellent article. Current players shaking off the PC talk and straight calling him out. I love it.

As for the threads, are you starting it with a one letter title and then editing it after you post it? It's been the way for a while now... since the board upgrade whenever that was.

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 05:53 PM
They said during the game that the put Haine in because he had more mobility. sounds to me like the coaching staff took out Collins

I didn't hear that, Collins was bad all year, why they put him in over Haine didn't make sense. Haine outplayed Collins in the PS.

maven
01-23-2011, 05:53 PM
Hell donate it right here i'll take it off your hands ;D

I was in Mexico City the other weekend and saw a Jake Plummer jersey. I was like, "holy **** wow!!!!" If you really want it you can have it. I do not buy jerseys anymore.

oubronco
01-23-2011, 05:55 PM
I was in Mexico City the other weekend and saw a Jake Plummer jersey. I was like, "holy **** wow!!!!" If you really want it you can have it. I do not buy jerseys anymore.

Hell to the Yea just pm me bro I'll take all Broncos jerseys

Broncos_OTM
01-23-2011, 05:56 PM
Seems like cutler has jersey burned in his name in every city he has stopped lol

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 05:58 PM
I was in Mexico City the other weekend and saw a Jake Plummer jersey. I was like, "holy **** wow!!!!" If you really want it you can have it. I do not buy jerseys anymore.

Was it one of those Super Bowl XL jerseys that the league sends to 3rd world countries rather than be destroyed?

tsiguy96
01-23-2011, 05:58 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cutler-s-NFL-contemporaries-go-after-him-on-Twit?urn=nfl-311321

That One Guy
01-23-2011, 06:00 PM
Someone tomorrow should have a paper article saying Cutler's a 6, Hanie is a 9.

I didn't have anything against Cutler really... but I'm enjoying the fallout from this just because the only NFL game I ever went to was a 10+ hour drive and Cutler went down right away and made me watch freakin' Patrick Ramsey waste my day.

Oh, and if he's infact trying to blame the coaches for pulling him and implying he could've played.. it'll only get better.

Mogulseeker
01-23-2011, 06:01 PM
You talking about Todd Collins or Cutler? Collins didn't look hurt either.

Well, both... but mostly Cutler.

That One Guy
01-23-2011, 06:01 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cutler-s-NFL-contemporaries-go-after-him-on-Twit?urn=nfl-311321

Haha, come on Tsiguy... it's not even "search past threads" but this time it's just "Look up there ^"

Ratboy
01-23-2011, 06:03 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cutler-s-NFL-contemporaries-go-after-him-on-Twit?urn=nfl-311321

other nfl players opinions...why the f can i never start new threads???is it a setting i need to change?

You can play hurt, but sometimes you cannot play injured.

maven
01-23-2011, 06:07 PM
Was it one of those Super Bowl XL jerseys that the league sends to 3rd world countries rather than be destroyed?

No, the dark blue home Jake Plummer jersey. I was impressed. Actually, I saw a lot of bronco gear down there. From my observations, I would say 49ers #1, Broncos #2, Cowboys #3 from the gear people were wearing.

That One Guy
01-23-2011, 06:07 PM
You can play hurt, but sometimes you cannot play injured.

But apparently he's telling everyone the coach just told him he was done. If they start playing the blame game and Cutler admits he was healthy in the midst of it... that'll get ugly.

_Oro_
01-23-2011, 06:09 PM
The good news is Cutler was the second worst QB on field today.

The bad news is Cutler was the second worst QB on the field today.

???

tsiguy96
01-23-2011, 06:10 PM
Haha, come on Tsiguy... it's not even "search past threads" but this time it's just "Look up there ^"

i actually put it in this thread then pressed submit a few minutes later haha

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 06:14 PM
I am guessing that some # 6 jerseys in NY are going to be burned tonight also.

Bad day to be wearing a 6 in a Championship game.

That One Guy
01-23-2011, 06:17 PM
i actually put it in this thread then pressed submit a few minutes later haha

ahhh... well at least that makes sense

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-23-2011, 06:17 PM
That's the 9s at work, right there.

There's hope for Chicago yet. Sorry your boy Cutler is such an unrepentant pussy, steven and socal.

Punisher
01-23-2011, 06:17 PM
lol i think they'll be more bonfires in Chicago

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 06:20 PM
lol i think they'll be more bonfires in Chicago

I dunno, NY is getting blown out.

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 06:24 PM
That's the 9s at work, right there.

There's hope for Chicago yet. Sorry your boy Cutler is such an unrepentant p***Y, steven and socal.

I don't like Cutler as much as you think, that said you would have posted the same thing if duh bears made it to the SB only to lose.

baja
01-23-2011, 06:27 PM
This Cuter story is far from over and I'm lovin every minute of it.

loborugger
01-23-2011, 06:40 PM
Was it one of those Super Bowl XL jerseys that the league sends to 3rd world countries rather than be destroyed?

I lived in Bolivia for a couple of years. I think there were more Browns shirts down there than in Cleveland.

db56
01-23-2011, 06:56 PM
I watched the entire game and It looked like a repeat of the Broncos vs. Lions game to me.

Cutler getting knocked around and mysteriously getting hurt and taking himself and his team out the game.

I guess there is a chance he was hurt because they did play better with Hanie in there.

the truth hurts doesnt it, Hapsburg?

CEH
01-23-2011, 07:06 PM
What's funny is you can burn #6 Kevin butler jersey so the title is 100% accurate

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 07:08 PM
What's funny is you can burn #6 Kevin butler jersey so the title is 100% accurate

The only difference is that if you tried to burn a butthead jersey he would hunt you down and kick your ass.

Cutler would just break down and tear up before running away.

baja
01-23-2011, 07:12 PM
Cutler may never recover from this;

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/36343/fair-or-not-a-defining-day-for-jay-cutler

Popps
01-23-2011, 07:24 PM
Cutler may never recover from this;

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/36343/fair-or-not-a-defining-day-for-jay-cutler

To me, his performance in the first half was just a damning. (6 for 14, 80 yards an an INT.)

But then again, it wasn't a surprise, either.

gtown
01-23-2011, 07:32 PM
Cutler may never recover from this;

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/36343/fair-or-not-a-defining-day-for-jay-cutler

The article says he couldn't plant and throw on the first series of the third quarter. When has that ever stopped Frown Cannon before?

BroncoDoug
01-23-2011, 07:34 PM
Cutler may never recover from this;

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/36343/fair-or-not-a-defining-day-for-jay-cutler

He has time to recover from this, its only his 5th year. I just don't think he has the will or want to attitude to do anything about it. He'll just shrug it off like he does everything else in his life and have that not care attitude.

It just amazes me with this guys attitude, he could own the city of Chicago and just acts as if everyone is bothering him and wants to be left alone. Well when you have that attitude you are going to turn a lot of people off.

ICON
01-23-2011, 07:37 PM
Hodge said Cutler should have played, he looked scared. Dilfer said QBs have all played with injuries, its the NFC Championship Cutler should have played

Wow, ESPN really does get it right sometimes.

gunns
01-23-2011, 07:40 PM
I thought this thread had to do with Kevin Butler.

FantomForce
01-23-2011, 08:44 PM
I thought this thread had to do with Kevin Butler.

and you were wrong

OABB
01-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Where is jhiz? Hello? You must be busy...

Kid A
01-23-2011, 08:50 PM
He has time to recover from this, its only his 5th year. I just don't think he has the will or want to attitude to do anything about it. He'll just shrug it off like he does everything else in his life and have that not care attitude.

It just amazes me with this guys attitude, he could own the city of Chicago and just acts as if everyone is bothering him and wants to be left alone. Well when you have that attitude you are going to turn a lot of people off.

Agreed. Personally, I would guess he was really hurt. He has gotten sacked as much as anyone these last couple years behind their ****ty o-line and has been pretty tough about it and missed very little time.

Thing is, when something like today happens (an injury in the championship that appears minor to viewers)...he has done nothing to buy himself leeway with the fans. If he hadn't had a reputation of looking disinterested and mopey going into the game, the controversy never takes off today.

Yeah, it may be kind of shallow that he has to shape his media persona/body language in order to win the city's trust, but there are very few other ways for fans to make judgments on players they will likely never know personally. Sure they'll cheer a winner no matter what, but if you haven't won them over on a personality level they will find it really easy to turn on you should your gameplay go south.

If Jay is uninterested going out of his way to hone a more marketable exterior, well good for him. That's kind of ballsy in its own way. But he (and his loyal supporters) shouldn't be shocked when he gets subjected to a higher level of scrutiny.

There's a reason the majority of this board thought drafting Tebow was a bad idea less than a year ago, but now most have raced to support him after a few promising starts. If he had those same solid (but hardly miraculous) stats paired with a cold persona toward fans/media, people might show some optimism, but he wouldn't have gripped the board's imagination on the same level. The NFL is entertainment, and fan's want to embrace "characters" they can love. Occasionally an anti-hero can be good enough to be respected by fans, but it's an uphill battle.

Steve Sewell
01-23-2011, 09:25 PM
The article says he couldn't plant and throw on the first series of the third quarter. When has that ever stopped Frown Cannon before?

No doubt. If the knee injury is on his left, non-back foot, he should have been good to do.

GoBroncos84
01-23-2011, 09:47 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/gay-jay-cutler-knee-injury-chicago-bears-nfc-championship-012311

Some interesting tweets:

Maurice Jones-Drew: “All I’m saying is that he can finish the game on a hurt knee … I played the whole season on one …”

Asante Samuel: “If he was my teammate I would be looking at him sideways. … I luv my QB @mikevick he has the heart of a lion. I guess others are scared of success.”

Mark Schlereth: “As a guy (who) had 20 knee surgeries you’d have to drag me out on a stretcher to Leave a championship game! #justsaying”

Darnell Dockett: “If I’m on Chicago team jay cutler has to wait till me and the team shower get dressed and leave before he comes in the locker room!”

Kirk Morrison: “If my knee was hurt or acl/mcl/pcl sprain, I would not be standing up on the sideline.”

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 09:56 PM
Gonna get ugly for j-cutty.

~Crash~
01-23-2011, 09:56 PM
haters going to hate enjoy ass hat

DivineBronco
01-23-2011, 09:56 PM
haters going to hate enjoy ass hat

ha

Shoemaker
01-23-2011, 09:58 PM
haters going to hate enjoy ass hat

Jay, I had no idea you posted here!

How's your knee? Must be pretty messed up, huh?

Archer81
01-23-2011, 09:59 PM
5th time in 4 different threads I've seen these quotes...

Come on now...

:Broncos:

broncofan2438
01-23-2011, 10:00 PM
Great stuff!
Cutler is quite hatted right now

GoBroncos84
01-23-2011, 10:04 PM
5th time in 4 different threads I've seen these quotes...

Come on now...

:Broncos:

a small segment from a much larger article, which I linked.

epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2011, 10:04 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/gay-jay-cutler-knee-injury-chicago-bears-nfc-championship-012311

the funniest thing about that article...look at the url. "gay-jay-cutler-knee-injury-..."

And then you click the link to see that its written by a lady with the last name "Gay". Ha!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-23-2011, 10:12 PM
Great stuff!
Cutler is quite hatted right now

Ass hatted.

doonwise
01-23-2011, 10:23 PM
I don't think he had a knee injury, I think he had a concussion. Did you see that nasty hit in the endzone when he plowed the back of his head into the turf? He was then pulled up and stood there wheezing and staring at the ground for a while. After that he was done (throwing toss up balls[more than usual], staring down receivers[more than usual])

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-23-2011, 10:25 PM
I don't think he had a knee injury, I think he had a concussion. Did you see that nasty hit in the endzone when he plowed the back of his head into the turf? He was then pulled up and stood there wheezing and staring at the ground for a while. After that he was done (throwing toss up balls[more than usual], staring down receivers[more than usual])

Staring down receivers more than usual? Impossible.

baja
01-23-2011, 10:30 PM
I don't think he had a knee injury, I think he had a concussion. Did you see that nasty hit in the endzone when he plowed the back of his head into the turf? He was then pulled up and stood there wheezing and staring at the ground for a while. After that he was done (throwing toss up balls[more than usual], staring down receivers[more than usual])

That may explain everything, Cutler's brain is in his leg.

PRBronco
01-23-2011, 10:31 PM
the funniest thing about that article...look at the url. "gay-jay-cutler-knee-injury-..."

And then you click the link to see that its written by a lady with the last name "Gay". Ha!

Hahaha seriously I thought someone was going to be in so much trouble for that URL.

broncocalijohn
01-23-2011, 11:59 PM
I was in Mexico City the other weekend and saw a Jake Plummer jersey. I was like, "holy **** wow!!!!" If you really want it you can have it. I do not buy jerseys anymore.

Should have jumped on it when we announced here the clearance sale of the practice orange jerseys. Normally around $50 to $60 each and they had Plummer and Wilson for $20. Got both.
BTW, Butler? It stated they burned Butler jerseys. I know of no one that would burn FOneco jerseys.

orange crusher
01-24-2011, 12:07 AM
BTW, Butler? It stated they burned Butler jerseys. I know of no one that would burn FOneco jerseys.

Yeah, if his name was going to be misspelled, it should have read "Butt-ler"

BroncoDoug
01-24-2011, 12:31 AM
Agreed. Personally, I would guess he was really hurt. He has gotten sacked as much as anyone these last couple years behind their ****ty o-line and has been pretty tough about it and missed very little time.

Thing is, when something like today happens (an injury in the championship that appears minor to viewers)...he has done nothing to buy himself leeway with the fans. If he hadn't had a reputation of looking disinterested and mopey going into the game, the controversy never takes off today.

Yeah, it may be kind of shallow that he has to shape his media persona/body language in order to win the city's trust, but there are very few other ways for fans to make judgments on players they will likely never know personally. Sure they'll cheer a winner no matter what, but if you haven't won them over on a personality level they will find it really easy to turn on you should your gameplay go south.

If Jay is uninterested going out of his way to hone a more marketable exterior, well good for him. That's kind of ballsy in its own way. But he (and his loyal supporters) shouldn't be shocked when he gets subjected to a higher level of scrutiny.

There's a reason the majority of this board thought drafting Tebow was a bad idea less than a year ago, but now most have raced to support him after a few promising starts. If he had those same solid (but hardly miraculous) stats paired with a cold persona toward fans/media, people might show some optimism, but he wouldn't have gripped the board's imagination on the same level. The NFL is entertainment, and fan's want to embrace "characters" they can love. Occasionally an anti-hero can be good enough to be respected by fans, but it's an uphill battle.

A+ post

boppool
01-24-2011, 01:03 AM
If Cutler thought Denver was like a "6",
Chicago's like a "0".

No class... These fans are same people who wanted to put up his statue in front of Soldier Field last week. Have fun in Chi-town, Jay!

The MVPlaya
01-24-2011, 02:21 AM
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2011/01/23/jay-cutler-branded-a-gutless-quitter-by-fellow-players-on-twitte/

Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler took a beating from NFL players past and present when he missed most of the second half of the NFC championship game with a knee injury. Cutler said he would have an MRI, but many wondered how serious the injury actually was. Here's a sampling of Twitter opinions, including one that crossed sports:

Maurice Jones-Drew, Jaguars RB -- @Jones_Drew32
"All I'm saying is that he can finish the game on a hurt knee... I played the whole season on one..."

"Hey I think the urban meyer rule is effect right now... When the going gets tough...QUIT."

Derrick Brooks, former Buccaneers LB -- @DBrooks55
"HEY there is no medicine for a guy with no guts and heart"

Darnell Dockett, Cardinals DL -- @DDockett
"If I'm on chicago team jay cutler has to wait till me and the team shower get dressed and leave before he comes in the locker room! #FACT."

Matt Barnes, Lakers forward -- @Matt_Barnes22
"I can't believe Jay Cutler hasn't even TRYED (sic) to come back.. This is to go to the Super Bowl.. That's crazy"

Roman Oben, former Giants and Bucs OT -- @R_Oben
"Jay Cutler must answer the critics about his toughness, or lack there of... #Bears"

Kerry Rhodes, Cardinals safety -- @kerryrhodes
"Cmon cutler u have to come back. This is the NFC championship if u didn't know! ... Kerry Rhodes speaks."

broncocalijohn
01-24-2011, 02:28 AM
i could be wrong as I am just a dumb Denver fan but i think if you look at some of the threads, we have the link for this. Look first before starting threads.

From Yahoo!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cutler-s-NFL-contemporaries-go-after-him-on-Twit?urn=nfl-311321

The MVPlaya
01-24-2011, 02:31 AM
Stephen A. Smith

# Cutler. No excuse for this nonsense. I'm so happy for Rodgers and GB, just to erase the memory of Brett Favre. But Cutler? A joke. PATHETIC! less than 10 seconds ago via HootSuite

# It's reasons like this why teams like the Jets speak so glowingly of Big Ben while, despite all his talents, no one has a positive word to 1 minute ago via HootSuite

# string QB was on the field doing a better job than you. The players will never respect him again. Neither will the city of Chicago. Awful! 2 minutes ago via HootSuite

# have the unmitigated gall to be on the sidelines, have the decency to be on crutches or something. This dude was on a bicycle while the 3rd 3 minutes ago via HootSuite

# SUCKS!!! He will never live this down. Don't give me some mess about his knee. Stay in the locker room. Be on your way to the Hospital. If u 4 minutes ago via HootSuite

# Congrats to the Green Bay Packers. Well deserved. But I've got a bunch of things to say about the Chicago Bears, so stay with me: Jay Cutler 4 minutes ago via HootSuite

The MVPlaya
01-24-2011, 02:40 AM
In all seriousness, the game was a defining moment for Jay Cutler and he did not step up. This thing will stick with him FOREVER until he gets back there.

Ratboy
01-24-2011, 03:06 AM
Why is this even an issue?

If this was any other position, no one would have said ****.

TheChamp24
01-24-2011, 04:24 AM
Why is this even an issue?

If this was any other position, no one would have said ****.

People ripped Tomlinson when he didn't go in a playoff game before.
Rivers played on a torn ACL.
Heck, Olandis Gary played a half on a torn ACL back in the 2000 season opener for us against the Rams.

ColoradoDarin
01-24-2011, 04:26 AM
Well, that lockerroom is destroyed...

Off the record, several teammates looked at Cutler amid the postgame wreckage and shook their heads. “I aint’ gonna say nothing,” one Bears player said privately, “but I don’t see a brace on that knee. Do you?”

tsiguy96
01-24-2011, 04:29 AM
good luck fixing that locker room. i always liked caleb hanie though, said preseason he might be the best QB on the roster. maybe not the most talented, but he brought the team back yesterday and gave them a chance to win despite his mistakes. well find out how badly this affected the locker room over the next few months :)

Drek
01-24-2011, 04:41 AM
Why is this even an issue?

If this was any other position, no one would have said ****.

Brian Urlacher is considered as tough as they come in the NFL. If he pulled himself out of the game only to walk around the sidelines and ride a bike in spurts while the D crashed and burned you can bet your ass people would be questioning him.

The only way you don't get called out for that is if you're a nobody.

Ratboy
01-24-2011, 05:00 AM
and for those who think Cutler took himself out of the game..

Coach Lovie Smith echoed that sentiment.

“There was no decision at all,” Smith said. “He was injured. He was hurt and he couldn’t go. The trainers and doctors . . . made that decision.”

montrose
01-24-2011, 05:11 AM
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6656/quitler.jpg

Drek
01-24-2011, 05:19 AM
and for those who think Cutler took himself out of the game..

Coach Lovie Smith echoed that sentiment.

“There was no decision at all,” Smith said. “He was injured. He was hurt and he couldn’t go. The trainers and doctors . . . made that decision.”

Sure sure. Its a fantastic little story the Bears are coming up with now. I'm sure he'll have "major ligament damage" too when they run an MRI.

Yet throughout the game Cutler initially couldn't name when he hurt his knee, the training staff didn't feel it significant enough to immobilize, brace, or put him on crutches. Instead they had him riding a bike and after that let him just wander about.

When asked if it lacked stability and motion he said "both". You don't get any clearer "do you want to keep playing?" questions than that.

He checked out and did nothing to get back in. Hell, he didn't even throw on a backup QB headset to try and help his replacements. Nope, just a beanie and the ol' iPod.

Rock Chalk
01-24-2011, 05:37 AM
and for those who think Cutler took himself out of the game..

Coach Lovie Smith echoed that sentiment.

“There was no decision at all,” Smith said. “He was injured. He was hurt and he couldn’t go. The trainers and doctors . . . made that decision.”

I bet if you pull Cutler's cock out of your mouth and open your eyes you might be able to see clearly.

baja
01-24-2011, 05:47 AM
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/nfc-championship-game-notes/1147297

Elway 4 Life
01-24-2011, 06:09 AM
I'm not sure it was his knee, a close source to the team stated that he's been suffering from a case of pussitus for the last few days.

Elway 4 Life
01-24-2011, 06:13 AM
Derrick Brooks, former Buccaneers LB -- @DBrooks55
"HEY there is no medicine for a guy with no guts and heart"

This is the best tweet yet. DB hit the nail on the head.

baja
01-24-2011, 06:19 AM
Derrick Brooks, former Buccaneers LB -- @DBrooks55
"HEY there is no medicine for a guy with no guts and heart"

This is the best tweet yet. DB hit the nail on the head.

True or not once you get labeled a quitter the rest of the league is going come after him with some extra nasty every play and some of his players might not try as hard as the would if it were a guy like Tebow back there to protect him. Add it all up and Cutler is going to have a rough go of it for a long time and given his personality he may wilt under the pressure. Jay took a step closer to Jeff George land yesterday.

Kaylore
01-24-2011, 06:24 AM
Regardless of what the haters and fanboys think, this didn't help Cutler's reputation around the league. I was more disappointed with his crappy third down conversion percentage. I think most telling was when the bears got that lucky interception late in the second quarter and Cutler had plenty of time to get some points on the board, he threw and interception second play in.

Like I said before, this game was more of a litmus test for how "elite" Cutler is. He clearly isn't and my original argument that the Bears were in it because of their defense and special teams were validated. Every single player on the Bears raised their game that day except for their first and second string QB's. At home, in the NFC Championship game, against a very bitter rival, with super bowl hopes on the line, Cutler let his team down. And I think he'd be the first to tell you that.

Kaylore
01-24-2011, 06:27 AM
I don't think they'll come after him harder. But he did add to his stigma as a player. Cutler is an incredibly uninspiring person.

baja
01-24-2011, 06:27 AM
Regardless of what the haters and fanboys think, this didn't help Cutler's reputation around the league. I was more disappointed with his crappy third down conversion percentage. I think most telling was when the bears got that lucky interception late in the second quarter and Cutler had plenty of time to get some points on the board, he threw and interception second play in.

Like I said before, this game was more of a litmus test for how "elite" Cutler is. He clearly isn't and my original argument that the Bears were in it because of their defense and special teams were validated. Every single player on the Bears raised their game that day except for their first and second string QB's. At home, in the NFC Championship game, against a very bitter rival, with super bowl hopes on the line, <B>Cutler let his team down. And I think he'd be the first to tell you that.

Not his style.

Kaylore
01-24-2011, 06:29 AM
Not his style.

That's true, he wouldn't say "I let my team down." But he will roll his eyes, refuse to make eye contact with his interviewer and say "It is disappointing."

DivineBronco
01-24-2011, 06:37 AM
and for those who think Cutler took himself out of the game..

Coach Lovie Smith echoed that sentiment.

“There was no decision at all,” Smith said. “He was injured. He was hurt and he couldn’t go. The trainers and doctors . . . made that decision.”

good luck with your crusade

vanbrugh
01-24-2011, 06:53 AM
I can't believe some of the comments on here questioning JC's toughness. Have any of you tried playing pro sports while sufferering a Dislocated Vagina?

hades
01-24-2011, 06:59 AM
That's true, he wouldn't say "I let my team down." But he will roll his eyes, refuse to make eye contact with his interviewer and say "It is disappointing."

Well, as long as he learned from it and can make corrections so it doesn't happen again, it all good.

TonyR
01-24-2011, 07:17 AM
Regardless of what the haters and fanboys think, this didn't help Cutler's reputation around the league.

And clearly his reputation around the league already wasn't very good as evidenced by all the current and former players calling him out during and after the game. Almost unprecedented for players to call out an "injured" player like that but they showed him little mercy. Very telling.

The MVPlaya
01-24-2011, 07:29 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/jay-cutler-had-tears-in-his-eyes-when-told-other-players-ripped-him/

Jay Cutler had tears in his eyes when told other players ripped him

Although Trotter’s portrayal of Cutler is sympathetic — the headline is “Don’t question Cutler’s toughness” — Trotter offers a detail that is sure to add fuel to the fire for those who believe Cutler just isn’t tough enough to be a great NFL player.

“It cut him so deeply that tears welled in his eyes at his locker room stall,” Trotter writes of Cutler’s response to being told other players had criticized him.

Trotter continues: “Cutler appeared genuinely hurt when asked about the comments, saying: ‘No comment on that.’ He then turned his back to reporters, fiddled with some things on a shelf and bit his lip as tears welled.”

Whether you’re a kid getting picked on in school or an NFL player, if people think you’re a wimp, there’s no better way to confirm that perception than to cry about it. Those players who ripped Cutler on Sunday aren’t going to change their minds today when they hear that he had tears in his eyes.

tsiguy96
01-24-2011, 07:30 AM
curious that cutler did nothing to try and help hanie get into position to win the game. he just sat there...

TonyR
01-24-2011, 07:31 AM
Yet throughout the game Cutler initially couldn't name when he hurt his knee, the training staff didn't feel it significant enough to immobilize, brace, or put him on crutches. Instead they had him riding a bike and after that let him just wander about.

Not only that but the fact that they let him go back in the game after half time tells you that he could have played if he was able to gut it out. Clearly the medical team cleared him to play coming out of the locker room.

The MVPlaya
01-24-2011, 07:32 AM
Somewhere, Josh McDaniels is laughing with his ego going up +1000000000000000

oubronco
01-24-2011, 07:32 AM
Uhoh it's getting worse

That One Guy
01-24-2011, 07:33 AM
Even if he were seriously hurt, it could've been disappointment for not having been able to do it. Anger and frustration that he was pulled, maybe.

There's plenty of reasons to rag on the guy. Tears aren't that reason.

TonyR
01-24-2011, 07:35 AM
Does anyone ever recall a player being called out by so many other players during and after a game? Ever? I guess a large part of it is that with Twitter it's easier for people to get their opinions out there in real time but players bashing another player like this has to be almost unprecedented. Which just goes to show what Cutler's rep was around the league even before this debacle.

oubronco
01-24-2011, 07:35 AM
Brian Urlacher is considered as tough as they come in the NFL. If he pulled himself out of the game only to walk around the sidelines and ride a bike in spurts while the D crashed and burned you can bet your ass people would be questioning him.

The only way you don't get called out for that is if you're a nobody.

And he is one of the people coming out and backing Cutler

BroncosMT
01-24-2011, 07:37 AM
And clearly his reputation around the league already wasn't very good as evidenced by all the current and former players calling him out during and after the game. Almost unprecedented for players to call out an "injured" player like that but they showed him little mercy. Very telling.

Even TJ on Primetime was going there a bit in questioning and then would backtrack saying we didn't know.....I agree with Stink though....its one of the biggest games....you don't get many....you have to play through pain!

CEH
01-24-2011, 07:38 AM
And he is one of the people coming out and backing Cutler

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6051718

I can see it now.
Instead of taking Urlacher's word ppl will say Brian hates Jay and is just being a team player.

Archer81
01-24-2011, 07:40 AM
and for those who think Cutler took himself out of the game..

Coach Lovie Smith echoed that sentiment.

“There was no decision at all,” Smith said. “He was injured. He was hurt and he couldn’t go. The trainers and doctors . . . made that decision.”


Good luck storming the castle!


:Broncos:

Drek
01-24-2011, 07:40 AM
And he is one of the people coming out and backing Cutler

Of course he is. He's his teammate.

If Urlacher or Kreutz stepped up there and gave a "no comment" response it'd be hard for Cutler to step foot in the city of Chicago ever again.

Saying that Urlacher and Kreutz had his back is the equivalent of saying "but my mommy says I'm handsome!"

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-24-2011, 07:45 AM
The guy doesn't even know when he hurt the ****er, and we're supposed to believe that it was so bad he couldn't go back out there?

I mean, seriously?

I've hurt my knees, my back, my ankle, wrist, and rotator cuff. I knew the moment each one happened, even if it was just a tweak.

oubronco
01-24-2011, 07:46 AM
Of course he is. He's his teammate.

If Urlacher or Kreutz stepped up there and gave a "no comment" response it'd be hard for Cutler to step foot in the city of Chicago ever again.

Saying that Urlacher and Kreutz had his back is the equivalent of saying "but my mommy says I'm handsome!"

I was kinda surprised none of his teammates were over telling him to sack up and get his ass out there. i just couldn't fathom working so hard all year to get the chance to go to the Bowl and seeing your QB just stand there moping around. I would've been his mug but that's just me

The Joker
01-24-2011, 07:47 AM
http://www.radioplanet.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/VanDerCry.gif

Drek
01-24-2011, 07:49 AM
I was kinda surprised none of his teammates were over telling him to sack up and get his ass out there. i just couldn't fathom working so hard all year to get the chance to go to the Bowl and seeing your QB just stand there moping around. I would've been his mug but that's just me

I think they were kinda preoccupied with trying to win a football game.

You'd think the least Cutler could have done was throwing on the #2 QB headset and giving Hanie some pointers at every opportunity possible based on what he was seeing the first half and his far greater familiarity with the first team offense.

Instead he was listening to his iPod.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-24-2011, 07:50 AM
Does anyone ever recall a player being called out by so many other players during and after a game? Ever? I guess a large part of it is that with Twitter it's easier for people to get their opinions out there in real time but players bashing another player like this has to be almost unprecedented. Which just goes to show what Cutler's rep was around the league even before this debacle.

No. Because it's never happened. Ever.

Twitter is only part of the reason. And let's be honest here, Twitter the phenomenon has been around for a while. At least a couple years with a bunch of players, commentators and whatever the hell Josina is using the **** out of it. And there's never been anything like this.

Not even close.

You spend your career having disdain for every other player in the league, talking **** on the field, and disrespecting all-time greats, don't expect to get leeway when you pull yourself from the biggest game of your life with a phantom injury.

mikey555
01-24-2011, 07:51 AM
Of course he is. He's his teammate.

If Urlacher or Kreutz stepped up there and gave a "no comment" response it'd be hard for Cutler to step foot in the city of Chicago ever again.

Saying that Urlacher and Kreutz had his back is the equivalent of saying "but my mommy says I'm handsome!"

Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-24-2011, 07:52 AM
I think they were kinda preoccupied with trying to win a football game.

You'd think the least Cutler could have done was throwing on the #2 QB headset and giving Hanie some pointers at every opportunity possible based on what he was seeing the first half and his far greater familiarity with the first team offense.

Instead he was listening to his iPod.

To be fair, I think that earpiece was listening to the coaches' calls going in to Hanie, but still. When Hanie was going over the overhead photos of the defense and what they were running, Cutler was sitting next to him, staring into space.

You'd think a veteran leader like Cutler would want to help his backup win the game so he could earn more accolades and start in a Super Bowl a couple weeks later, but that's just not the kind of guy Cutler is.

oubronco
01-24-2011, 07:57 AM
I think they were kinda preoccupied with trying to win a football game.

You'd think the least Cutler could have done was throwing on the #2 QB headset and giving Hanie some pointers at every opportunity possible based on what he was seeing the first half and his far greater familiarity with the first team offense.

Instead he was listening to his iPod.

total classless bs

Boogerboots
01-24-2011, 07:58 AM
I didn't get the see the whole game but managed to see where they showed his bloodied elbow and I couldn't help but be reminded of Curt Shilling's ketchup ankle from a few years back.

Did Cutler have a few blood bags taped on and set to explode when the game started to circle the drain?

Karma is indeed a b*tch

55CrushEm
01-24-2011, 08:00 AM
Regardless of what the haters and fanboys think, this didn't help Cutler's reputation around the league. I was more disappointed with his crappy third down conversion percentage. I think most telling was when the bears got that lucky interception late in the second quarter and Cutler had plenty of time to get some points on the board, he threw and interception second play in.

Like I said before, this game was more of a litmus test for how "elite" Cutler is. He clearly isn't and my original argument that the Bears were in it because of their defense and special teams were validated. Every single player on the Bears raised their game that day except for their first and second string QB's. At home, in the NFC Championship game, against a very bitter rival, with super bowl hopes on the line, Cutler let his team down. And I think he'd be the first to tell you that.

Careful. Jhns will call you a McD lover because of this statement.

Kaylore
01-24-2011, 08:00 AM
I read the SI column Trotter wrote and it makes valid points. Like I said before It wasn't the knee thing that was telling to me. It was his terrible play leading up to it.

ghostofjosh
01-24-2011, 08:01 AM
meow

supermanhr9
01-24-2011, 08:05 AM
wow,,,, Normally I'd feel bad for a player, but not Cutler. He is not liked around the league for a reason. He is not liked on this board for a reason.

He has the tools, but not the mindset for the NFL.

Dedhed
01-24-2011, 08:07 AM
I rarely feel bad when people have to sleep in the bed they've made for themselves.

mikey555
01-24-2011, 08:07 AM
curious that cutler did nothing to try and help hanie get into position to win the game. he just sat there...

That would be "Kyle Orton syndrome."

TonyR
01-24-2011, 08:08 AM
What will really be great is if/when the stories start to hit the entertainment and gossip rags about Kristin Cavallari dumping him...

mkporter
01-24-2011, 08:08 AM
In all honesty, I feel kinda bad for Jay (not that bad). Say what you want about every other aspect of his game, but he's always seemed to be a pretty tough (physically) player. If Lovie pulled him because his knee blew up, and he couldn't throw worth a damn, then there isn't much for him to do. It isn't really his choice whether he's playing or not. If McD/Studesville had done the same thing to Orton, we might have beat KC and Arizona this year.

But, then again, he could just be a giant douche, and this is what he deserves.

55CrushEm
01-24-2011, 08:12 AM
curious that cutler did nothing to try and help hanie get into position to win the game. he just sat there...

Are you surprised? HE'S NOT A LEADER!!! Don't we all know this by now?

Oh, wait.......Queuing obligatory jhns "You're a McD lover" comment in 3.......2........1........

srphoenix
01-24-2011, 08:16 AM
even worse, it looked like he had headphones on.. and not the ones that are used to communicate defensive and offensive strategy to your 3rd string QB trying to win a game, the headphones he had on were the music listening vareity.... pathetic

Cito Pelon
01-24-2011, 08:16 AM
Even if he were seriously hurt, it could've been disappointment for not having been able to do it. Anger and frustration that he was pulled, maybe.

There's plenty of reasons to rag on the guy. Tears aren't that reason.

I'm through bagging on the guy, I was hard enough on him yesterday. From what everybody is saying on the Bears team it was kind of a situation where they all felt he wasn't going to be effective if he played. Here's something that illustrates that:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/3455542-419/cutler-sunday-bears-game-packers.html

“I knew it was probably better that I didn’t [go back in],’’ he said.“I knew my knee. I know my body.’’

Gort
01-24-2011, 08:18 AM
In all honesty, I feel kinda bad for Jay (not that bad). Say what you want about every other aspect of his game, but he's always seemed to be a pretty tough (physically) player. If Lovie pulled him because his knee blew up, and he couldn't throw worth a damn, then there isn't much for him to do. It isn't really his choice whether he's playing or not. If McD/Studesville had done the same thing to Orton, we might have beat KC and Arizona this year.

But, then again, he could just be a giant douche, and this is what he deserves.

Cutler: ow. owwww. owwww. my tummy hurts.
Lovie: what?
Cutler: i hurt my tummy.
Lovie: wtf?
Cutler: ...and my knee. i hurt my left knee when i tripped. i twisted it. it really, really hurts. i don't think i can put any weight on my right knee?
Lovie: well, which is it?
Cutler: ummm. both. i hurt them both. and my tummy.
Lovie: can you play?
Cutler: ummm. do i get paid whether i play or not?
Lovie: yes.
Cutler: no, no i definitely can't play.
Lovie: (screaming) Collins! get your ass in there!
Cutler: (looking around for assistants) anyone seen my ipod?

Boogerboots
01-24-2011, 08:19 AM
Those jerseys must be pretty flame retardant. One video is 8 minutes long.

meangene
01-24-2011, 08:19 AM
They said on Sportscenter this morning that, when he was asked about what the medical staff said to him, Cutler responded that he knew his body and his knee. Sounds like it was strictly Cutlers decision to pull himself out.

bfoflcommish
01-24-2011, 08:20 AM
I'm through bagging on the guy, I was hard enough on him yesterday. From what everybody is saying on the Bears team it was kind of a situation where they all felt he wasn't going to be effective if he played. Here's something that illustrates that:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/3455542-419/cutler-sunday-bears-game-packers.html

“I knew it was probably better that I didn’t [go back in],’’ he said.“I knew my knee. I know my body.’’

but he was perfectly fine to play all 2nd qtr and showed no signs of bothersome injury, until after a stupid int?

baja
01-24-2011, 08:20 AM
total classless bs

What's classless is Mr. Jay Cutler. Even if he was hurt and couldn't play his reaction to the situation is what is pissing people off. He had an attitude like it was a pre season game when it the NFCC on the line. When is the last time you saw this much turmoil surrounding an injury that kept a star player out of the game. There is only one that I can think off is LT and it got him run out of SD.

When people have a bad attitude eventually it catches up to them no matter how talented they are. Like it or not Cutler just took another step toward Doucheville.

baja
01-24-2011, 08:25 AM
I would love to know what Lovie shared with his wife last night.

(about jay jay you dirty minded biatches ;D)

I should start a poll as to how long Jay will play in Chicago

NUB
01-24-2011, 08:26 AM
This dude played a season with undiagnosed type-1 diabetes, dropped over thirty pounds over the course of the games, and didn't say a word. He has been the most hit and sacked QB in the entire league in Chicago behind a porous offensive-line throwing to total trash receivers every single game and hasn't said a single thing about it. In college he was one of the most hit and sacked playing in Vanderbilt against brutal SEC competition.

I question Cutler's leadership because, quite frankly, he doesn't appear to have any. However, the last thing I'd question is this dude's ****ing toughness.

Garcia Bronco
01-24-2011, 08:31 AM
at best he was injured and didn't want to play. At worst he got benched.

oubronco
01-24-2011, 08:32 AM
What's classless is Mr. Jay Cutler. Even if he was hurt and couldn't play his reaction to the situation is what is pissing people off. He had an attitude like it was a pre season game when it the NFCC on the line. When is the last time you saw this much turmoil surrounding an injury that kept a star player out of the game. There is only one that I can think off is LT and it got him run out of SD.

When people have a bad attitude eventually it catches up to them no matter how talented they are. Like it or not Cutler just took another step toward Doucheville.

From King Neckbeard:

I don't know why everyone is giving Cutler so much ****... Trying to play after breaking your vagina can't be easy!

Cito Pelon
01-24-2011, 08:35 AM
but he was perfectly fine to play all 2nd qtr and showed no signs of bothersome injury, until after a stupid int?

Well, there's still room for criticism of the decision I guess. But if everybody on the team was in agreement that he would be more of a liability . . .

footstepsfrom#27
01-24-2011, 08:36 AM
What kind of fool is Maurice Jones Drew? Here's his quote from twitter: "Hey I think the urban meyer rule is effect right now... When the going gets tough........QUIT.."

Eh...dumb****; not exactly the same thing when you make a career decision based on a doctor's advice and you've pretty much got no really good reason to continue working vs. supposedly quitting on your team in the middle of a championship game. I gotta go find this guy's wonderlic score...

bfoflcommish
01-24-2011, 08:36 AM
Well, there's still room for criticism of the decision I guess. But if everybody on the team was in agreement that he would be more of a liability . . .

well yeah, just being Jay Cutler starting QB is a liability

Ratboy
01-24-2011, 08:38 AM
This is the first thing that I thought of when I read what he said about the lonely feeling.

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Drek
01-24-2011, 08:40 AM
To be fair, I think that earpiece was listening to the coaches' calls going in to Hanie, but still. When Hanie was going over the overhead photos of the defense and what they were running, Cutler was sitting next to him, staring into space.

You'd think a veteran leader like Cutler would want to help his backup win the game so he could earn more accolades and start in a Super Bowl a couple weeks later, but that's just not the kind of guy Cutler is.

The NFL headsets are these big, bulky Motorola branded wrap arounds. Why would Cutler be the only one using an ear bud to listen in?

Regardless, as you said, when Hanie was trying his damnedest to pick them up Cutler was offering no assistance.

Hell, he didn't even show any real excitement when Hanie got them within a touchdown two different times.

total classless bs

I'd agree. His backup's backup had him within reach of making it to the Super Bowl. But Cutler was just walking the sidelines pout facing, not trying to help a 3rd year QB who's never seen anything but pre-season action and likely has heard Devin Hester's voice on ESPN more than in real life.

Hanie was fighting to get them to the Super Bowl, Cutler was chilling on the bench. Very classless.

TonyR
01-24-2011, 08:41 AM
...Cutler responded that he knew his body and his knee.

He knows his body so well that it was reported during the game that he didn't know which knee or when it happened.

baja
01-24-2011, 08:41 AM
Even if he were seriously hurt, it could've been disappointment for not having been able to do it. Anger and frustration that he was pulled, maybe.

There's plenty of reasons to rag on the guy. Tears aren't that reason.

This

Jay's tears are not an indictment about his toughness.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-24-2011, 08:43 AM
He knows his body so well that it was reported during the game that he didn't know which knee or when it happened.

He knows his body so well that he didn't find it odd when he lost 30 pounds over the course of a season and was constantly exhausted.

TonyR
01-24-2011, 08:43 AM
...throwing to total trash receivers every single game...

I notice the Cutler apologists saying this a lot lately, but what doesn't make sense is that when evaluating the trade many of the same people say what a great pick Knox was with the choice they got from Denver. So which is it, was Knox a good pick or is he "trash"?

Hogan11
01-24-2011, 08:47 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/jay-cutler-had-tears-in-his-eyes-when-told-other-players-ripped-him/

Jay Cutler had tears in his eyes when told other players ripped him

Although Trotter’s portrayal of Cutler is sympathetic — the headline is “Don’t question Cutler’s toughness” — Trotter offers a detail that is sure to add fuel to the fire for those who believe Cutler just isn’t tough enough to be a great NFL player.

“It cut him so deeply that tears welled in his eyes at his locker room stall,” Trotter writes of Cutler’s response to being told other players had criticized him.

Trotter continues: “Cutler appeared genuinely hurt when asked about the comments, saying: ‘No comment on that.’ He then turned his back to reporters, fiddled with some things on a shelf and bit his lip as tears welled.”

Whether you’re a kid getting picked on in school or an NFL player, if people think you’re a wimp, there’s no better way to confirm that perception than to cry about it. Those players who ripped Cutler on Sunday aren’t going to change their minds today when they hear that he had tears in his eyes.

If this is true and Cutler is that mentally soft, then this incident could snowball and potentially kill off his career.

He needs to be locked into a room with Henry Rollins or R Lee Ermey for a couple of hours...

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baja
01-24-2011, 08:49 AM
at best he was injured and didn't want to play. At worst he got benched.

Didn't consider it might be a combination of injury and poor play that caused Lovie to bench him. That has to be considered as one possibility as to why he was out of the game. None the less it doesn't change his poor reaction to the situation he should have been way more upset no matter the reason he was on the bench. He acted like it was no big deal he was out of the game.

oubronco
01-24-2011, 08:49 AM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l243/yardbarker/MBcutler.jpg

Rohirrim
01-24-2011, 08:49 AM
John Boehner called Cutler up and said, "I'm with ya, bro."

Gcver2ver3
01-24-2011, 08:49 AM
And clearly his reputation around the league already wasn't very good as evidenced by all the current and former players calling him out during and after the game. Almost unprecedented for players to call out an "injured" player like that but they showed him little mercy. Very telling.

very telling indeed...

oubronco
01-24-2011, 08:50 AM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l243/yardbarker/MBcutler.jpg

Rohirrim
01-24-2011, 08:51 AM
If the Bears had Kyle Orton, instead of Cutler, they win that game. Just sayin'. ;D

Gcver2ver3
01-24-2011, 08:52 AM
I read the SI column Trotter wrote and it makes valid points. Like I said before It wasn't the knee thing that was telling to me. It was his terrible play leading up to it.

agreed...i brought this up yesterday as well...

i think his poor play had a lot more to do with Cutler's benching then some want to let on...

Kaylore
01-24-2011, 08:53 AM
If the Bears had Kyle Orton, instead of Cutler, they win that game. Just sayin'. ;D

Only because Orton would have knocked out of the game earlier and Hanie would have played longer.

Dedhed
01-24-2011, 08:55 AM
Didn't consider it might be a combination of injury and poor play that caused Lovie to bench him. That has to be considered as one possibility as to why he was out of the game. None the less it doesn't change his poor reaction to the situation he should have been way more upset no matter the reason he was on the bench. He acted like it was no big deal he was out of the game.

I think it was probably a combination of everything if Lovie actually sat him down. Poor play, being hurt, and showing absolutely no resolve to get out there and fight to turn things around.

If I were coaching that team, and my QB was hemming, hawing, mumbling about it hurting, and showing the classic Emo style that will ultimately define Cutler's career I would sit his ass down too.

I would want my leader to show some guts, tell me he's fine, and to be trying to implore his teammates to get something going. Cutler wanted to quit, Lovie saw it in him, and went in another direction.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-24-2011, 08:56 AM
The NFL headsets are these big, bulky Motorola branded wrap arounds. Why would Cutler be the only one using an ear bud to listen in?

Regardless, as you said, when Hanie was trying his damnedest to pick them up Cutler was offering no assistance.

Hell, he didn't even show any real excitement when Hanie got them within a touchdown two different times.

I've seen backups using the black, over-the-ear earbud like Jay was wearing yesterday. A lot of teams give them to guys who they don't want having input into the gameplan, hence no microphone.

He checked out of the game, and then he checked out.

"Jay, do you want to go back in?"
"Whatever, I don't care."

Awesome leadership, Jaybee.

BroncosMT
01-24-2011, 08:57 AM
Only because Orton would have knocked out of the game earlier and Hanie would have played longer.

Actually Orton would have fallen without being touched and therefore wouldn't have been hurt.....

Rohirrim
01-24-2011, 08:58 AM
Any objective football fan would have to admit, Hanie showed a hell of a lot more fire in his gut than Cutler did.

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01-24-2011, 09:00 AM
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baja
01-24-2011, 09:00 AM
And clearly his reputation around the league already wasn't very good as evidenced by all the current and former players calling him out during and after the game. Almost unprecedented for players to call out an "injured" player like that but they showed him little mercy. Very telling.

I am curious if those players that called him out are "6's" or '9's"?

baja
01-24-2011, 09:03 AM
Careful. Jhns will call you a McD lover because of this statement.

It's now clear why jhns likes Cutler so, they are both no-shows.

Cito Pelon
01-24-2011, 09:04 AM
I don't think he had a knee injury, I think he had a concussion. Did you see that nasty hit in the endzone when he plowed the back of his head into the turf? He was then pulled up and stood there wheezing and staring at the ground for a while. After that he was done (throwing toss up balls[more than usual], staring down receivers[more than usual])

That's an interesting perspective. I suppose that is certainly a possibility. It goes hand in hand with the team's feeling that Jay was gonna be a liability if he kept playing.

Tombstone RJ
01-24-2011, 09:05 AM
Looks like the honeymoon is over in Chicagoland... Cutler is a stange bird, the dude gets sacked harder than any other QB in the game, he gets up and goes right back to the huddle and continues to play. Then, in the biggest game of his career he takes himself out because of a sprained, perhaps torn MCL, which if he wanted to, he could play on.

I just don't get the guy. He toughed it out through the early onset of type 1 diabetes and he continued to play while losing weight and being physically drained. Yet he gets an injury which he can play through and he decides to sit on the bench... I just don't get it...

enjolras
01-24-2011, 09:06 AM
The guy doesn't even know when he hurt the ****er, and we're supposed to believe that it was so bad he couldn't go back out there?

I mean, seriously?

I've hurt my knees, my back, my ankle, wrist, and rotator cuff. I knew the moment each one happened, even if it was just a tweak.

So funny coincidence... I ended up straining my MCL playing indoor soccer last night. Not tearing, just a strain (had an MRI this morning). I can tell you the very INSTANT that it happened.

footstepsfrom#27
01-24-2011, 09:06 AM
Cutler's biggest problem is that he carries a blunted affect around all the time. I use that term in the psychiatric sense. The "affect" is your facial expression, described as "blunted" or expressionless. That's how it would be charted in a psychiaric medical report written by or for shrinks. Cutler looks to me like a guy who is severely depressed about something, and I wonder if his sugar issues have anything to do with it, especially since he seems to ignore medical advice on alcohol, lifestyle and I'm only guessing here...maybe diet? Does anyone monitor this? Who knows...but I've seen a few thousand people who look just lilke him in psychiatric hospitals, the blunted affect, the lethargic demeanor, the apparent distance from people...all this **** is stuff that shrinks consider signs of some kind of mental disorder. I'm not saying he's a nutcase, just that much like they do with a lot of other human behavior oddities, psychiatry has probably found a way to chronicle and classify Cutler-like behavior somehwere in the DSM-IV. Then again, the shrinks who rely on this **** are the most screwed up of all... ;D

Dedhed
01-24-2011, 09:07 AM
That's an interesting perspective. I suppose that is certainly a possibility. It goes hand in hand with the team's feeling that Jay was gonna be a liability if he kept playing.

Interesting and bogus. If any QB was playing with a concussion in the 2nd half, it was Rodgers who took a helmet to the chin.

Royalfan19
01-24-2011, 09:15 AM
Regardless of what the haters and fanboys think, this didn't help Cutler's reputation around the league. I was more disappointed with his crappy third down conversion percentage. I think most telling was when the bears got that lucky interception late in the second quarter and Cutler had plenty of time to get some points on the board, he threw and interception second play in.

Like I said before, this game was more of a litmus test for how "elite" Cutler is. He clearly isn't and my original argument that the Bears were in it because of their defense and special teams were validated. Every single player on the Bears raised their game that day except for their first and second string QB's. At home, in the NFC Championship game, against a very bitter rival, with super bowl hopes on the line, Cutler let his team down. And I think he'd be the first to tell you that.

A deep throw to your number receiver who had a step on the other teams #3 corner, only to have the corner display much better ball skills is hardly Cutler's fault.

He's going to take an insane amount of heat for not displaying in effort to get back in the game though.

Popps
01-24-2011, 09:15 AM
I wish Cutler no ill-will in his personal life. In fact, I hope he gets his disease under control and lives a healthy, happy life.

But, from a football standpoint... I can't understand for the life of me why any Broncos fan would like this guy. He was marginal at best while he was here... never showed the work ethic to improve his game and then trashed the fans on the way out. If 1/3rd of the rumors are true, he's a complete head case. He went to Chicago and has done nothing but alienate the fans there as well.

Why in the world would anyone still be holding a flame for this guy?

Plummer, I can understand. Griese I can even understand to a point. But Jay Cutler? Really?

BroncosMT
01-24-2011, 09:15 AM
Any objective football fan would have to admit, Hanie showed a hell of a lot more fire in his gut than Cutler did.

agreed!

baja
01-24-2011, 09:15 AM
I think it was probably a combination of everything if Lovie actually sat him down. Poor play, being hurt, and showing absolutely no resolve to get out there and fight to turn things around.

If I were coaching that team, and my QB was hemming, hawing, mumbling about it hurting, and showing the classic Emo style that will ultimately define Cutler's career I would sit his ass down too.

I would want my leader to show some guts, tell me he's fine, and to be trying to implore his teammates to get something going.<b> Cutler wanted to quit,</b> Lovie saw it in him, and went in another direction.

In the final analysis that is what it comes down to. Pure & simple!

Popps
01-24-2011, 09:17 AM
I actually don't mind a player crying one bit. Tebow cried after games. It's irrelevant.

What matters is his play on the field, and that was sorely lacking in the first half yesterday... as it seems to be any time he faces a big game.

vanbrugh
01-24-2011, 09:17 AM
Two Things.

1. You can bet that the bears PR team will now make damn sure that there is a tear in his knee. Without a serious injury here the bears and Cutler can not co-exist!

2. WTF? I swear i saw Cutler listening to his ear-phones while frowning on the bench. Anyone else see this?

Royalfan19
01-24-2011, 09:18 AM
I think it stems more from not being able to go out there. I'm sure there's some guys who've played football or any sport in the past and got a serious injury in a critical game. The level of frustration is overwhelming.

Cutler's antisocial and very emotional, but I don't think he's crying because he's a wimp.

enjolras
01-24-2011, 09:19 AM
Looks like the honeymoon is over in Chicagoland... Cutler is a stange bird, the dude gets sacked harder than any other QB in the game, he gets up and goes right back to the huddle and continues to play. Then, in the biggest game of his career he takes himself out because of a sprained, perhaps torn MCL, which if he wanted to, he could play on.

I just don't get the guy. He toughed it out through the early onset of type 1 diabetes and he continued to play while losing weight and being physically drained. Yet he gets an injury which he can play through and he decides to sit on the bench... I just don't get it...

It's easy to be tough when the pressure is off. All season long no one thought much of this Bears team. Expectations were incredibly low. Cutler does really well when there is no pressure on him to actually perform. We saw him yesterday, with everything on the line, wilt as he is prone to do.

All of the frowning, moping, and general disinterest that he shows are just symptoms of a larger problem. He's just not mentally very strong. Playing QB in the NFL is only partially about the physical tools. It's about having the toughness to stand strong when the entire world is staring at you...expecting YOU to make a play.

I promise you that if the Bears had gotten off to a strong start (maybe an interception for a TD or Cutler hits that early pass to Hester) that he would have finished that game out. He's the type of guy that's great under limited adversity.

That's the problem tho. To win a superbowl you're GOING to experience those moments. Whether the ball is on your two yard line with 5:32 left in the game or you show up to the AFC championship game with the wind blowing 40 miles an hour.... that's football.

Cutler is another in a long line of immensely talented, but mentally weak QB's to play in this league. Ryan Leaf is the poster child, but one look no further than players like Jeff George and David Klingler. He'll tease you, but you just can't count on him when it really matters. He's simply more Donovan McNabb than he is John Elway.

I'm not ruling out the possibility that Cutler will win a superbowl one day. If that happened, it will happen not *because* of him, but in spite of him. That's just who he is.

baja
01-24-2011, 09:20 AM
I actually don't mind a player crying one bit. Tebow cried after games. It's irrelevant.

What matters is his play on the field, and that was sorely lacking in the first half yesterday... as it seems to be any time he faces a big game.

It appears to me that Jay saw things were not going his way and he realized they were probably going to lose the game and when he saw a chance to disassociate himself with the outcome he took it.

Traveler
01-24-2011, 09:20 AM
Fair or not, Cutler will have to deal with this type of stuff. He has yet to excel in pressure situations.

Whether he's throwing picks in the red zone or succoming to trash talk and getting frustrated, he has yet to show the toughness required when faced with pressure situations.

Hopefully he can get better at this in the future. Having said that, only he can shut everyone up by succeeding now that he has this quitter/choking reputation.

Bronco Vixen
01-24-2011, 09:21 AM
curious that cutler did nothing to try and help hanie get into position to win the game. he just sat there...

I think this is exactly why he's getting the reaction he's getting. It's not the injury per se, it was that hideous attitude of his shining through yet again.

Not helping Hanie, not cheering on or firing up his team, just sitting there with his hands in his pockets, listening to Bieber on his ipod, pouting.

In my opinion, this is what has made everyone react so heatedly. Particularly the fans. If you just got the sense that he cared even a little bit it would be so much easier to pull for him and give him the benefit of the doubt.

Dedhed
01-24-2011, 09:24 AM
I think it stems more from not being able to go out there. I'm sure there's some guys who've played football or any sport in the past and got a serious injury in a critical game. The level of frustration is overwhelming.

Cutler's antisocial and very emotional, but I don't think he's crying because he's a wimp.
If Cutler had a "serious" injury, he would have been on crutches or seated and wrapped in ice.

I'm sure his tears were emotional, but I think it's just as likely he's emotional about being found guilty.

Kind of like a criminal crying when they hear the guilty verdict. The tears come when the reality of the situation lands, and they realize they're going to be held accountable.

colonelbeef
01-24-2011, 09:27 AM
Somewhere, Josh McDaniels is laughing with his ego going up +1000000000000000

Lol, the loser who got fired just 1.5 seasons into the worst meltdown in Broncos history is laughing about nothing, he is too busy being embarrassed about being such a failure

Cito Pelon
01-24-2011, 09:28 AM
Interesting and bogus. If any QB was playing with a concussion in the 2nd half, it was Rodgers who took a helmet to the chin.

I don't know what to think, like Tombstone said above. It's just flabbergasting to me that a starting QB in an NFCCG that isn't even limping, looked like he was moving around OK for the first series of the 3rd quarter, rides the stationary bike, and it's his LEFT knee, the non-plant knee . . .

I'm trying real hard to not bag on the guy, it is confirmed apparently it's a torn MCL.

Garcia Bronco
01-24-2011, 09:29 AM
Cutlers career is over.

BroncosMT
01-24-2011, 09:36 AM
I don't know what to think, like Tombstone said above. It's just flabbergasting to me that a starting QB in an NFCCG that isn't even limping, looked like he was moving around OK for the first series of the 3rd quarter, rides the stationary bike, and it's his LEFT knee, the non-plant knee . . .

I'm trying real hard to not bag on the guy, it is confirmed apparently it's a torn MCL.

do you have a link?

Missouribronc
01-24-2011, 09:37 AM
I don't know what to think, like Tombstone said above. It's just flabbergasting to me that a starting QB in an NFCCG that isn't even limping, looked like he was moving around OK for the first series of the 3rd quarter, rides the stationary bike, and it's his LEFT knee, the non-plant knee . . .

I'm trying real hard to not bag on the guy, it is confirmed apparently it's a torn MCL.

Considering that Cutler always throws off his back leg, that IS his plant leg...

BroncoDoug
01-24-2011, 09:37 AM
curious that cutler did nothing to try and help hanie get into position to win the game. he just sat there...

I noticed this as well, Hanie was sitting next to cutler looking around all nervous just wanting him to say ANYTHING to him to calm him down or reassure himself... nope nothing, Cutler just sat there staring at the clouds and spitting a couple of times...

TonyR
01-24-2011, 09:38 AM
Cutlers career is over.

I despise Jay Cutler but this is a bit much. He'll be the Bears starting QB next year.

Dedhed
01-24-2011, 09:38 AM
Two Things.

1. You can bet that the bears PR team will now make damn sure that there is a tear in his knee. Without a serious injury here the bears and Cutler can not co-exist!Doesn't really matter at this point. The perception on Cutler before this was questionable. At this point whether there's a tear or not, his teammates will always wonder when he's going to quit again.

2. WTF? I swear i saw Cutler listening to his ear-phones while frowning on the bench. Anyone else see this?
Would that surprise you?

Traveler
01-24-2011, 09:39 AM
It's easy to be tough when the pressure is off. All season long no one thought much of this Bears team. Expectations were incredibly low. Cutler does really well when there is no pressure on him to actually perform. We saw him yesterday, with everything on the line, wilt as he is prone to do.

All of the frowning, moping, and general disinterest that he shows are just symptoms of a larger problem. He's just not mentally very strong. Playing QB in the NFL is only partially about the physical tools. It's about having the toughness to stand strong when the entire world is staring at you...expecting YOU to make a play.

I promise you that if the Bears had gotten off to a strong start (maybe an interception for a TD or Cutler hits that early pass to Hester) that he would have finished that game out. He's the type of guy that's great under limited adversity.

That's the problem tho. To win a superbowl you're GOING to experience those moments. Whether the ball is on your two yard line with 5:32 left in the game or you show up to the AFC championship game with the wind blowing 40 miles an hour.... that's football.

Cutler is another in a long line of immensely talented, but mentally weak QB's to play in this league. Ryan Leaf is the poster child, but one look no further than players like Jeff George and David Klingler. He'll tease you, but you just can't count on him when it really matters. He's simply more Donovan McNabb than he is John Elway.

I'm not ruling out the possibility that Cutler will win a superbowl one day. If that happened, it will happen not *because* of him, but in spite of him. That's just who he is.

THIS! Well said enjolras.

Beantown Bronco
01-24-2011, 09:40 AM
This whole thing is even better than Brandon Marshall's reaction to Ty Law's comments to him in the lockerroom last year.

TonyR
01-24-2011, 09:40 AM
Lol, the loser who got fired just 1.5 seasons into the worst meltdown in Broncos history is laughing about nothing, he is too busy being embarrassed about being such a failure

You mean the guy who just got hired to be the Rams OC? That guy? Cutler very well may have cemented his legacy yesterday. McD's stint as the Broncos HC will be largely forgotten outside of Denver.

Dedhed
01-24-2011, 09:41 AM
He'll be the Bears starting QB next year.

True, but you can be sure that the door is wide open now for a QB controversy in Chicago. Hanie was better than Cutler yesterday, and clearly there are serious questions about Cutler at this point.

The first time Cutler has a disappointing outing, there will be a clamoring for Hanie.

Shoemaker
01-24-2011, 09:41 AM
2. WTF? I swear i saw Cutler listening to his ear-phones while frowning on the bench. Anyone else see this?

I absolutely saw it. I remember because I was so nonplussed. He was just sitting there, listening to his iPod and staring off into space, during the NFC Championship Game.

I just couldn't believe that he wasn't choosing to be engaged at all. I remember looking at that captain's C on his chest and wondering what it was doing there.

Beantown Bronco
01-24-2011, 09:43 AM
A deep throw to your number receiver who had a step on the other teams #3 corner, only to have the corner display much better ball skills is hardly Cutler's fault.


Ummmm, what?!?

Did you see how many times he missed wide open guys deep and couldn't hit them in stride? How many times his receivers had to play DB for one of his "throw it up and pray" balls? Same old, same old. He may have a strong arm, but he's terribly inaccurate over 20 yards or so. All he does is throw it up for grabs and hope that something good happens. It's not always going to work out.

Cito Pelon
01-24-2011, 09:45 AM
do you have a link?

Hearing it on the radio

colonelbeef
01-24-2011, 09:45 AM
I wish Cutler no ill-will in his personal life. In fact, I hope he gets his disease under control and lives a healthy, happy life.

But, from a football standpoint... I can't understand for the life of me why any Broncos fan would like this guy. He was marginal at best while he was here... never showed the work ethic to improve his game and then trashed the fans on the way out. If 1/3rd of the rumors are true, he's a complete head case. He went to Chicago and has done nothing but alienate the fans there as well.

Why in the world would anyone still be holding a flame for this guy?

Plummer, I can understand. Griese I can even understand to a point. But Jay Cutler? Really?

Haha, Poops suddenly appears from under a rock once Cutler and the Bears finally lose in the playoffs, spewing hyperbole as per usual

jhns
01-24-2011, 09:46 AM
You mean the guy who just got hired to be the Rams OC? That guy? Cutler very well may have cemented his legacy yesterday. McD's stint as the Broncos HC will be largely forgotten outside of Denver.

Still defending the guy that ran this franchise into the ground? Funny stuff.


I cried when I heard people were picking on Cutler too.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-24-2011, 09:48 AM
Still defending the guy that ran this franchise into the ground? Funny stuff.


I cried when I heard people were picking on Cutler too.

We know you did. Your heart seems to break every time your best friend Jay starts digging his own hole again.

BroncoDoug
01-24-2011, 09:51 AM
This whole thing is even better than Brandon Marshall's reaction to Ty Law's comments to him in the lockerroom last year.

Que? I haven't heard this story

Shoemaker
01-24-2011, 09:51 AM
Still defending the guy that ran this franchise into the ground? Funny stuff.


I cried when I heard people were picking on Cutler too.

Still defending the QB who started bitching his way out of town the day a new head coach was hired and who promptly insulted this fanbase (which, theoretically, includes you) upon arriving in Chicago?

jhns
01-24-2011, 09:54 AM
Still defending the QB who started b****ing his way out of town the day a new head coach was hired and who promptly insulted this fanbase (which, theoretically, includes you) upon arriving in Chicago?

Actually, I work with facts. None of what you said really means much to me.

Bronco Vixen
01-24-2011, 09:54 AM
Considering that Cutler always throws off his back leg, that IS his plant leg...

Very funny!

ScottXray
01-24-2011, 10:00 AM
I'm sorry Cutler got hurt. I'm sorry, because it leaves doubt as to the reason for his poor play yesterday.

More than anything the reason I disliked Cutler (while he was here) is that he is not able to LEAD. He has all the skills needed to succeed in the NFL, EXCEPT one. He does not know how to take contol of a game and will himself to a win. He showed the same lack of that yesterday.

In the biggest game of his career (so far) he did not inspire his teammates to raise their level of play and take control.

Lovie did pull him, and I have no doubt that he would have stayed in the game if told to. I do not question his physical toughness. But he also failed to pull out any and all stops to get back in. A lack of Mental toughness and desire...the "mopey Jay" look that so many of us saw so many times.

So now the jury is still out on Cutler in the minds of most of the country. The media ragging on him is no less than expected....
1. They don't like him.
2. their jobs require them to have a reason or subject to talk about.
3. The more controversial the subject the more play they get.

They LOVE this scenario.

Shoemaker
01-24-2011, 10:01 AM
Actually, I work with facts. None of what you said really means much to me.

Fact: You mocked TonyR for speaking positively about McDaniels, a coach who, in your view, "destroyed" the Broncos franchise.

Fact: You have continuously posted in defense of Jay Cutler, a quarterback who, according to league sources, tried to force his way out of town the day a new head coach was hired and was quoted as insulting the Denver Broncos fanbase by saying they were a "6," while Bears fans were a "9."

Opinion: Making fun of somebody who speaks positively about a coach no longer associated with the Broncos who made some bad moves while he coached the Broncos while defending a quarterback no longer associated with the Broncos when he insulted the Broncos fanbase and quit on the team the day a new coach was hired seems a bit hypocritical.

So I guess you'll be able to "work with" 2/3 of this post.

Kaylore
01-24-2011, 10:01 AM
Actually Colonelbeef I am curious. Why do you like Cutler so much?

NFLBRONCO
01-24-2011, 10:01 AM
Cutler isn't very likeable around the NFL so that alone will put gas on this fire and any other issues he has in the future.

Chris
01-24-2011, 10:04 AM
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OABB
01-24-2011, 10:04 AM
Still defending the guy that ran this franchise into the ground? Funny stuff.


I cried when I heard people were picking on Cutler too.

Yay! Jhins is here everyone! I missed you so much, especially during your heroes EPIC FAIL in front of millions of people.

good times. Wish you were here.

Beantown Bronco
01-24-2011, 10:05 AM
Que? I haven't heard this story

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=88237

TonyR
01-24-2011, 10:05 AM
Still defending the guy that ran this franchise into the ground? Funny stuff.

I'm not defending him at all. His short stint as the Broncos HC was a failure. Now let's see you admit that yesterday Jay Cutler was a failure, in the biggest game of his career, and we'll call it a day.

OABB
01-24-2011, 10:10 AM
Jhiz, did you watch your hero yesterday?

did you see him outplayed by caleb hanie?

did you see him blow a huge game when he didn't face a 7-9 team in the playoffs?

it was good times for all of us who were right about him all along.

now since you were wrongy wrong wrong, I would love to hear what you think.

jhns
01-24-2011, 10:10 AM
Fact: You mocked TonyR for speaking positively about McDaniels, a coach who, in your view, "destroyed" the Broncos franchise.

Fact: You have continuously posted in defense of Jay Cutler, a quarterback who, according to league sources, tried to force his way out of town the day a new head coach was hired and was quoted as insulting the Denver Broncos fanbase by saying they were a "6," while Bears fans were a "9."

Opinion: Making fun of somebody who speaks positively about a coach no longer associated with the Broncos who made some bad moves while he coached the Broncos while defending a quarterback no longer associated with the Broncos when he insulted the Broncos fanbase and quit on the team the day a new coach was hired seems a bit hypocritical.

So I guess you'll be able to "work with" 2/3 of this post.

Cutler didn't ask for a trade until McDaniels tried to trade him. Fact. A fact that is supported by statements from everyone involved in the situation.

Cutler did not just randomly call this fan base a 6. It was a response to a question about the training camp attendence. Chicago had twice as many people at that camp as Denver has ever had at a camp. Cutler simply stated a fact that is backed by numbers. Even if he did just randomly state it, why would I care? I don't get my feelings hurt by what a football player says like you girls. These are the facts...

McDaniels hurt this franchise with what he did. Fact.

Cutler didn't hurt this franchise with what he did because he can't force his way out no matter how much he tries. Fact.

misturanderson
01-24-2011, 10:12 AM
Actually Colonelbeef I am curious. Why do you like Cutler so much?

Because his team went to the NFC championship game and the Broncos have the #2 overall pick, refusing to take into account the actual contribution (or lack thereof) that Cutler made to his team's success or how much of a difference he would have made here.

Either that or it has to do with some foolish notion that McDaniels was entirely at fault for trading him and that we would be in the SuperBowl this year if only McDaniels hadn't "torn this team apart."

TonyR
01-24-2011, 10:12 AM
Cutler didn't ask for a trade until McDaniels tried to trade him. Fact.

Um, okay........


In defense of Josh McDaniels, he never had a chance with Jay Cutler.

On Jan. 12, 2009, the day that McDaniels was officially announced as the Broncos' head coach, Cutler called the front office and demanded a trade, according to three NFL sources.



Read more: Klis: Jay Cutler's departure led to Josh McDaniels' - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/klis/ci_17170363#ixzz1ByRAKK8w
Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

Beantown Bronco
01-24-2011, 10:16 AM
Cutler did not just randomly call this fan base a 6. It was a response to a question about the training camp attendence. Chicago had twice as many people at that camp as Denver has ever had at a camp. Cutler simply stated a fact that is backed by numbers.

So now you're saying that 6x2=9 ? Interesting.

Rohirrim
01-24-2011, 10:17 AM
Cutler didn't ask for a trade until McDaniels tried to trade him. Fact. A fact that is supported by statements from everyone involved in the situation.

Cutler did not just randomly call this fan base a 6. It was a response to a question about the training camp attendence. Chicago had twice as many people at that camp as Denver has ever had at a camp. Cutler simply stated a fact that is backed by numbers. Even if he did just randomly state it, why would I care? I don't get my feelings hurt by what a football player says like you girls. These are the facts...

McDaniels hurt this franchise with what he did. Fact.

Cutler didn't hurt this franchise with what he did because he can't force his way out no matter how much he tries. Fact.

Your Cutler love is inspiring. You should put your replies in sonnet form.

TheChamp24
01-24-2011, 10:19 AM
What kind of fool is Maurice Jones Drew? Here's his quote from twitter: "Hey I think the urban meyer rule is effect right now... When the going gets tough........QUIT.."

Eh...dumb****; not exactly the same thing when you make a career decision based on a doctor's advice and you've pretty much got no really good reason to continue working vs. supposedly quitting on your team in the middle of a championship game. I gotta go find this guy's wonderlic score...

Urban "quit" after Tebow's last game, then decided to still come back. Then Florida has a very down year and looked lost, going through a possible tough phase of a year or two, and Urban retires.
To some, its fishy.
Me, I can understand retiring from all the stress causing health reasons though.

The MVPlaya
01-24-2011, 10:22 AM
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w233/Broncobiv/CutlerMcFarlane.jpg

cutthemdown
01-24-2011, 10:23 AM
What a pussy!! So glad we have THE TEBOW!!!!

Archer81
01-24-2011, 10:26 AM
Driving home, the tears cascading down his face, Jay sadly watches the chicago skyline fade in the distance...he pulls into his palatial home, parking the car. Heading in, he sees a roaring fire, a bear(har har) skin rug, a bottle of bubbly and his soul mate, Greg Olsen.

Everything will be ok, he says, and Jay finally smiles.

:Broncos:

SportinOne
01-24-2011, 10:27 AM
Cutler was not good while he played... (Rodgers didn't have a good day either.. btw.. don't say "but his team won" or "he took care of business" because that would contradict everything you have been saying about Cutler leading up to this game. there, i've saved you embarrassment.)

Cutler has horrible body language. Always has. It's him.

These are pretty undeniable facts.

But are you people REALLY trying to say that Cutler faked an injury or blew his injury out of proportion so that he didn't have to come back into the game? In the NFC Championship game? That's simply illogical.

The guy is an asshole as a person, but look at his face on the field. He's intense. He gives a **** whether he is winning or losing, and maybe too much at times given the number of picks he throws. To say that he just had no interest in coming back in the game is short-sighted and self serving.

Admit this: The guy rubs you the wrong way, he's wronged the team you love, and you just can't stand him. Also realize: your hatred for him has nothing to do with whether he could have gotten back on the field or not, plus you love your juicy man-operas. It gives you something to talk about at the water cooler.

/PSA

footstepsfrom#27
01-24-2011, 10:27 AM
Urban "quit" after Tebow's last game, then decided to still come back. Then Florida has a very down year and looked lost, going through a possible tough phase of a year or two, and Urban retires.
To some, its fishy.
Me, I can understand retiring from all the stress causing health reasons though.
He's entitled to make any decision he wants to as to when he retires, and obviously he was encouraged to do so the first time for the same reason he did so this time, his health. His health related issues are well documented...it's hard to believe anybody would equate a coaching decision like that to pulling yourself out of the middle of the championship game when you have the ability to keep playing...if in fact that's what Cutler did.

Zero comparison between these two situations.

loborugger
01-24-2011, 10:29 AM
This needed its own thread?

Rohirrim
01-24-2011, 10:30 AM
Use existing threads, dimwit.

Cleo McDowell
01-24-2011, 10:31 AM
http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/jay-cutler1.jpg

RaiderH8r
01-24-2011, 10:32 AM
It sounds like Cutler has a torn MCL. But whatever.

MoJo Drew can suck a dick though. That mini me bag of ****'s commitment to mediocrity and inconsistancy cornholed my fantasy club for 2 straight years.

Prime Rib sat out constantly for a bum toe.

The list goes on.

Cleo McDowell
01-24-2011, 10:33 AM
i love this turn of events. that is all.

Mr.Meanie
01-24-2011, 10:33 AM
No one is saying he was faking an injury. People are saying he doesn't have the heart to gut out a painful injury and to will himself to greatness.

Jason in LA
01-24-2011, 10:35 AM
Not another Cutler thread. Yikes!

I don't see why everybody with an opinion needs to start a new thread on the same topic. At this point there is only a need for one more Cutler thread. That's the one that says what the injury is. After that one there is no need for any other thread on the guy. Hopefully the mods can control this.

SportinOne
01-24-2011, 10:36 AM
No one is saying he was faking an injury. People are saying he doesn't have the heart to gut out a painful injury and to will himself to greatness.

which is a pretty ridiculous expectation to have of someone..

Dedhed
01-24-2011, 10:37 AM
i love this turn of events. that is all.

What turn of events?

serious hops
01-24-2011, 10:37 AM
This needed its own thread?

Clearly. His opinion is that good.

Beantown Bronco
01-24-2011, 10:38 AM
Cutler was not good while he played... (Rodgers didn't have a good day either.. btw.. don't say "but his team won" or "he took care of business" because that would contradict everything you have been saying about Cutler leading up to this game. there, i've saved you embarrassment.)

Ummm, what? Rodgers had a pretty damn good game and performance against one of the top defenses in the league. You strike me as someone who is looking only at numbers and not the game itself. He made a ton of plays with his feet, extending plays and getting first downs, was getting hit hard, had only one "at fault" pick, etc.

Mile High Shack
01-24-2011, 10:38 AM
How many effin' Cutler threads do we need

c'mon Mods

Mr.Meanie
01-24-2011, 10:39 AM
which is a pretty ridiculous expectation to have of someone..

When you see guys like MJD, Rivers, Brady, Tebow and others play with fire on broken legs, fractured feet, torn ACL's... I don't think that's a pretty ridiculous expectation.

Dedhed
01-24-2011, 10:40 AM
But are you people REALLY trying to say that Cutler faked an injury or blew his injury out of proportion so that he didn't have to come back into the game?

No. I'm saying he wanted to quit after being utterly awful, and getting a moderate injury gave him the excuse he needed to lay down.

Dedhed
01-24-2011, 10:41 AM
How many effin' Cutler threads do we need

c'mon Mods
Mods=Cutler fanboys=Not present

Peoples Champ
01-24-2011, 10:42 AM
i love seeing this stuff. I know many bears fans, and when they got cutler, i said be carefull what you wish for. They said it was the worst mistake ever that the broncos did. Now they are burning jerseys. I love saying I told you so.

baja
01-24-2011, 10:42 AM
Cutler was not good while he played... (Rodgers didn't have a good day either.. btw.. don't say "but his team won" or "he took care of business" because that would contradict everything you have been saying about Cutler leading up to this game. there, i've saved you embarrassment.)

Cutler has horrible body language. Always has. It's him.

These are pretty undeniable facts.

But are you people REALLY trying to say that Cutler faked an injury or blew his injury out of proportion so that he didn't have to come back into the game? In the NFC Championship game? That's simply illogical.

The guy is an a-hole as a person, but look at his face on the field. He's intense. He gives a **** whether he is winning or losing, and maybe too much at times given the number of picks he throws. To say that he just had no interest in coming back in the game is short-sighted and self serving.

Admit this: The guy rubs you the wrong way, he's wronged the team you love, and you just can't stand him. Also realize: your hatred for him has nothing to do with whether he could have gotten back on the field or not, plus you love your juicy man-operas. It gives you something to talk about at the water cooler.

/PSA

Well that explains our issues with him now explain the other players (active and retired) that are calling him out and after you explain that away tell us why the fans of the Bears that are calling him out.

baja
01-24-2011, 10:44 AM
Clearly. His opinion is that good.

LOL Guess he told us.

razorwire77
01-24-2011, 10:46 AM
Personally, I think Jay could have played through the injury, but that's entirely subjective. In the interest of objectivity, I've never tried to play professional football with a knee injury. What's not subjective, however, is the PR nightmare that is Jay Cutler sitting on the sideline moping while the 3rd stringer with no game experience is rallying the same offense that he did absolutely nothing with. What's not subjective is the cluster**** which was his first half performance. Even if Jay is vindicated in regard to the injury, he's never going to live this down. Two years he'll be a backup, guaranteed.

baja
01-24-2011, 10:46 AM
How many effin' Cutler threads do we need

c'mon Mods

This is special it's his opinion and we need to be sure and not miss it

Cito Pelon
01-24-2011, 10:46 AM
which is a pretty ridiculous expectation to have of someone..

Please.

SportinOne
01-24-2011, 10:48 AM
Clearly. His opinion is that good.

at least someone gets it.

Cleo McDowell
01-24-2011, 10:49 AM
What turn of events?

being overseas with no nfl news access (outside of the net)and in deadline mode i spent my day with my head in my work. A few hours ago finish my work and head directly to the mane to catch up on the days news and how cutler performed (or non-performed). This is all hitting me over the past 2 hours and im not usually one to take pleasure in another man's failures but in this case..

SportinOne
01-24-2011, 10:49 AM
Well that explains our issues with him now explain the other players (active and retired) that are calling him out and after you explain that away tell us why the fans of the Bears that are calling him out.

a. body language

b. heartbreak

SportinOne
01-24-2011, 10:50 AM
Please.

so you expect every player with a major injury to overcome it and lead his team to victory?

you watch too much espn and too many disney movies.

boppool
01-24-2011, 10:53 AM
Admit this: The guy rubs you the wrong way, he's wronged the team you love, and you just can't stand him. Also realize: your hatred for him has nothing to do with whether he could have gotten back on the field or not, plus you love your juicy man-operas. It gives you something to talk about at the water cooler.

I don't love or hate the guy. But it's freaking NFC Championship game, for god's sake... You have to leave everything on the field. He's not only getting heat from the Broncos fanbase, but from everybody.

Having said that, he probably did the right thing by not playing in 4th quarter. Hanie at least gave them a chance while Cutler was ineffective the entire game. He just didn't show up!