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bronco0608
01-23-2011, 06:12 PM
Green Bay:

Clay Matthews 1st round pick
AJ Hawk 1st Round Pick
Nick Burnet 1st Round Pick
BJ Raji 1st Round Pick
Ryan Pickett 1st Round Pick
Justin Harrell 1st Round Pick
DE Mike Neal 2nd Round Pick


Pittsburgh:

Casey Hampton 1st round pick
Ziggy Hood 1st round pick
Lawerence Timmons 1st round pick
James Farrior 1st round pick
Lamar Woodley 2nd round pick
DE Jason Worilds 2nd round pick

epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2011, 06:15 PM
Theyre doing it the right way.

Control the line of scrimmage, control the field.

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 06:15 PM
And both teams, oddily enough, feature only two 1st round picks among their DBs in Charles Woodson and Polomalu. Their back four are filled with tons of mid round picks and undrafted free agents.

In essense, they don't invest heavily on their back four with high picks as they do with their front seven.

Draft theory to be followed?

footstepsfrom#27
01-23-2011, 06:24 PM
And both teams, oddily enough, feature only two 1st round picks among their DBs in Charles Woodson and Polomalu. Their back four are filled with tons of mid round picks and undrafted free agents.

In essense, they don't invest heavily on their back four with high picks as they do with their front seven.

Draft theory to be followed?
I see where you're heading. Statistics are fun; check out the Steelers won-lost record with Troy Polomalu in the lineup vs. their record without him. It's stunning how much better that superb playmaker makes that team go. Even with all that high round talent in there it's TP that makes that defense really special.

Popps
01-23-2011, 06:26 PM
I see where you're heading. Statistics are fun; check out the Steelers won-lost record with Troy Polomalu in the lineup vs. their record without him. It's stunning how much better that superb playmaker makes that team go. Even with all that high round talent in there it's TP that makes that defense really special.

Maybe, but he'd be nothing without that front seven.

Imagine sticking him in our secondary. He'd be useless.... covering guys for 10 seconds at a time, making tackles 30 yards down field, etc.

oubronco
01-23-2011, 06:28 PM
It starts upfront

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 06:31 PM
I see where you're heading. Statistics are fun; check out the Steelers won-lost record with Troy Polomalu in the lineup vs. their record without him. It's stunning how much better that superb playmaker makes that team go. Even with all that high round talent in there it's TP that makes that defense really special.

Fact of the matter is both front offices have made their front seven priorities in the draft, and not so much their back four. Why?

chadta
01-23-2011, 06:36 PM
Fact of the matter is both front offices have made their front seven priorities in the draft, and not so much their back four. Why?

ill take cuz they wanna go to superbowls for $100 alex

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 06:36 PM
When a defense takes over a game, every blue moon you will hear about a back four taking over a game, but overall you almost always hear about a front seven taking over a game.

For all of Champ's unbelievable greatness, he doesn't take over games. Neither does Asmounghua, Revis or tons of other DBs.

I'm not saying it doesnt happen, but not very often.

When front sevens stop the run and get pressure on the QB, they completely change the complexity of the game. They make less than average, hell undrafted DBs like Tramon Williams and Sam Shields look like All-Pros.

epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2011, 06:39 PM
When a defense takes over a game, every blue moon you will hear about a back four taking over a game, but overall you almost always hear about a front seven taking over a game.

For all of Champ's unbelievable greatness, he doesn't take over games. Neither does Asmounghua, Revis or tons of other DBs.

I'm not saying it doesnt happen, but not very often.

When front sevens stop the run and get pressure on the QB, they completely change the complexity of the game.

The last time the Broncos were in this AFC title game against the Steelers, Bailey had his side of the field locked down.

But that left the Steelers to pick on Domonique Foxworth over and over again until they walked out of Mile High with an easy victory.

driver
01-23-2011, 06:39 PM
Fact of the matter is both front offices have made their front seven priorities in the draft, and not so much their back four. Why?

See post #2. :thanku:

footstepsfrom#27
01-23-2011, 06:42 PM
Fact of the matter is both front offices have made their front seven priorities in the draft, and not so much their back four. Why?
Because it's the front 7 where you build from, nobody is disputing that. Your point seems headed toward saying we should take Fairley over Peterson, but I submit the argument isnn't Fairley or no front 7 help at all. It's the deepest draft in recent memory for defensive linemen. We can rebuild it even without Fairley or whomever in the top 5. For me it comes down to which one has the best chance to achieve greatness.

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 06:44 PM
The last time the Broncos were in this AFC title game against the Steelers, Bailey had his side of the field locked down.

But that left the Steelers to pick on Domonique Foxworth over and over again until they walked out of Mile High with an easy victory.

Not really, Big Ben threw for like 300 yards and damn near gave up 40 pts that game and all their receivers contributed to that victory. I don't recall one guy have like 150 yards receiving for the steelers.

But if that is what you remember from that game, you are sadly mistaken. Remember Big Ben having 10 seconds a time to throw the ball? We couldn't even touch him. No pressure.

That was really irritating.

gunns
01-23-2011, 06:45 PM
Pittsburgh, possibly 3rd SB appearance in 5 years. They change up their defense earlier than the rest of the league and snag up the players most suited for that defense before everyone else starts switching. They have an all around good defense. That DL is great.

misturanderson
01-23-2011, 06:45 PM
When a defense takes over a game, every blue moon you will hear about a back four taking over a game, but overall you almost always hear about a front seven taking over a game.

For all of Champ's unbelievable greatness, he doesn't take over games. Neither does Asmounghua, Revis or tons of other DBs.

I'm not saying it doesnt happen, but not very often.

When front sevens stop the run and get pressure on the QB, they completely change the complexity of the game. They make less than average, hell undrafted DBs like Tramon Williams and Sam Shields look like All-Pros.
So having multiple talented players at multiple positions is better than having one talented player at a different position? Brilliant! I can't believe that more than one good player is better than just one good player! It's insanity!

epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2011, 06:46 PM
Not really, Big Ben threw for like 300 yards that game and all their receivers contributed to that victory. I don't recall one guy have like 150 yards receiving for the steelers.

But if that is what you remember from that game, you are sadly mistaken. Remember Big Ben having 10 seconds a time to throw the ball? We couldn't even touch him. No pressure.

That was really irritating.

My point was that we werent able to get pressure, so they just picked on Foxworth at will. They rarely even through to Bailey's side of the field.

By the way, corners dont cover the same guy on every posession.

NFLBRONCO
01-23-2011, 06:50 PM
It starts by picking the RIGHT players in front 7.

broncosteven
01-23-2011, 06:53 PM
The last time the Broncos were in this AFC title game against the Steelers, Bailey had his side of the field locked down.

But that left the Steelers to pick on Domonique Foxworth over and over again until they walked out of Mile High with an easy victory.

Didn't Bailey have a near pick that went through his hands in the 1st drive that gave Pitt a long gainer?

I thought everyone got picked on that game.

cabronco
01-23-2011, 06:55 PM
ill take cuz they wanna go to superbowls for $100 alex

lol...someone please forward this thread to Mr. Elway...Dear John FYI.....

epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2011, 06:57 PM
Didn't Bailey have a near pick that went through his hands in the 1st drive that gave Pitt a long gainer?

I thought everyone got picked on that game.

Bailey probably gave up a couple of plays, but the Steelers consistently went away from him to Foxworth's side of the field, and Foxworth never made a play to cause them to stop. They went with what worked.

Vegas_Bronco
01-23-2011, 06:58 PM
We have invested a lot into our front seven also...we just don't have any leadership in the bunch at all. No one to account to.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 07:00 PM
Maybe, but he'd be nothing without that front seven.
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and vice versa. I don't get why people think they can get away with one without the other.

HILife
01-23-2011, 07:00 PM
I'm looking forward to this game. Two good teams with offense and Defense.

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 07:01 PM
I really believe you can almost throw any nfl quality DBs behind a great front and they can become great defenses.

Didn't Baltimore lose all their starting corners before the season started and they still had a great defense?

in fact, there are more starting safeties in the nfl that went undrafted as there are that went in the 1st round.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 07:06 PM
I really believe you can almost throw any nfl quality DBs behind a great front and they can become great defenses.


This sounds an awful lot like your take that any die hard fan could be a the general manager of an NFL team.

NASurfer
01-23-2011, 07:06 PM
So having multiple talented players at multiple positions is better than having one talented player at a different position? Brilliant! I can't believe that more than one good player is better than just one good player! It's insanity!
LOL, can't let this get no sold.

It is important to invest in your front 7, but drafting at a position merely for the hell of it without regards to talent available and fit is damn stupid too.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 07:06 PM
I'm looking forward to this game. Two good teams with offense and Defense.

I hope the Packers win by 60.

Requiem
01-23-2011, 07:09 PM
Everybody here realizes that a tremendous front seven is going to give you the best opportunity to win on Sunday's. Nobody questions that. What people do question is who is the best defensive player on the board at our #2 selection. It may (or may not be) a DL. It all depends.

My guess is that Denver will take either Fairley or Bowers, whichever is left if one is taken by Carolina. Fox will probably see Bowers and relate him to Julius Peppers, at least simple thinking would consider that.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 07:12 PM
When front sevens stop the run and get pressure on the QB, they completely change the complexity of the game.

So when the defense shuts down the offense, the offense has trouble? Brilliant!

Ooo, I've got one. When the secondary doesn't let anyone get open, the front 7 has more time to get to the quarterback.

Hey, if you score more points than the other team, do you win?

PS- I'm pretty sure it changes the "complexion" of the game, not the complexity.

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 07:13 PM
This sounds an awful lot like your take that any die hard fan could be a the general manager of an NFL team.

Yea, picking players is tough. Even you have a very strong opinion on who should be selected. Why have a strong opinion when you know you have no idea what you are talking about? You wouldn't know a zone defense if it slapped you in the face.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 07:14 PM
Everybody here realizes that a tremendous front seven is going to give you the best opportunity to win on Sunday's. Nobody questions that. What people do question is who is the best defensive player on the board at our #2 selection. It may (or may not be) a DL. It all depends.


Exactly.

Everyone demands that the Broncos take a DL at #2. Look at the Steelers history, and you'll see they very rarely go DL in the 1st round.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 07:19 PM
Yea, picking players is tough. Even you have a very strong opinion on who should be selected. Why have a strong opinion when you know you have no idea what you are talking about?

You've proven my GM stance for me. Very few people have any idea what they're talking about when it comes to prospects.

No on on this forum is in that group, and it's exactly why a quality GM is so valuable. There are maybe 5-6 GMs in the league who evaluate talent consistently well for their teams, yet you're naive enough to think that anyone can do it.

Good thought:thumbsup:

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 07:19 PM
PS- I'm pretty sure it changes the "complexion" of the game, not the complexity.

Thanks for the grammar tips, shirley.

With the caviat that it would probably be 3 years before he reached his potential.

Was that the word you were looking for? I think it means whale in french.

That One Guy
01-23-2011, 07:21 PM
We have invested a lot into our front seven also...we just don't have any leadership in the bunch at all. No one to account to.

That comes from the other secret these teams have - they don't wait for a hole to come up before they address it. Pitt picked Woodley while they still had a very solid LB corps. He was backup in the 2nd or 3rd round and they expected their current players to groom him into a star. GB has had OL and RB issues for a few years but they kept taking DLs and LBs despite there not necessarily being a hole for one. Same with Pitt, really. Their OL has sucked tail but they keep going D. Have either team put anyone significant into the OL?

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 07:23 PM
Everybody here realizes that a tremendous front seven is going to give you the best opportunity to win on Sunday's. Nobody questions that. What people do question is who is the best defensive player on the board at our #2 selection. It may (or may not be) a DL. It all depends.

My guess is that Denver will take either Fairley or Bowers, whichever is left if one is taken by Carolina. Fox will probably see Bowers and relate him to Julius Peppers, at least simple thinking would consider that.

Its the only commonsensical thing to do.

There is reason why only one or two DBs have been taken with the top two picks in the NFL draft.

And if you really think about it, they are rarely selected within the top five picks.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 07:28 PM
Thanks for the grammar tips, shirley.



Was that the word you were looking for? I think it means whale in french.
Did you really go searching through posts from days ago to find a spelling error?

loborugger
01-23-2011, 07:28 PM
It starts by picking the RIGHT players in front 7.

This.

The Packers and Steelers (along with NE, Balt and for a while SD) always find gems in the draft. These teams have been consistent winners for the last 15 years and its because they consistently reload in the draft.

I know the OP was trying to make a point. And while I am far too lazy to look it up, I imagine if you look on the 'O' side of the ball, you will find a lot of high draft picks for Pitt and GB that are playing well. Its more about identifying great talent at all positions than chasing one specific position.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 07:34 PM
This.

The Packers and Steelers (along with NE, Balt and for a while SD) always find gems in the draft. These teams have been consistent winners for the last 15 years and its because they consistently reload in the draft.

I know the OP was trying to make a point. And while I am far too lazy to look it up, I imagine if you look on the 'O' side of the ball, you will find a lot of high draft picks for Pitt and GB that are playing well. Its more about identifying great talent at all positions than chasing one specific position.

Their continuity allows them to find players who will fit what they do. When you constantly scapegoat the DC, and are terrible at grading talent, you end up with a double whammy of suck.

That's where we are with the defense. Our scouts and personnel folks have no idea what we're looking for in a defensive player because they have no idea what type of players fit a non-existent or ever-changing scheme.

loborugger
01-23-2011, 07:42 PM
Their continuity allows them to find players who will fit what they do. When you constantly scapegoat the DC, and are terrible at grading talent, you end up with a double whammy of suck.

That's where we are with the defense. Our scouts and personnel folks have no idea what we're looking for in a defensive player because they have no idea what type of players fit a non-existent or ever-changing scheme.

True. However, we have a new regime. God willing, they will address this issue. If we are gonna emulate NE, lets do it be constantly bringing in good talent thru the draft, not by bringing in one of their control freak, cheating, hard-to-get-along-with Belichick clones.

Requiem
01-23-2011, 07:45 PM
Their continuity allows them to find players who will fit what they do. When you constantly scapegoat the DC, and are terrible at grading talent, you end up with a double whammy of suck.

That's where we are with the defense. Our scouts and personnel folks have no idea what we're looking for in a defensive player because they have no idea what type of players fit a non-existent or ever-changing scheme.

I brought this up at my blog (www.broncosdraft.wordpress.com) the other day.

I can't believe a DC hasn't been hired yet. We don't have a scheme in place and have no continuity there.

Sure, having the rest of the staff and personnel there for the Senior Bowl will be big, but getting a DC (and a LB and Secondary coach) would be important, especially considering that the future DC might be interested in seeing these kids perform or have a hand in evaluating them.

Just ****ing shameful.

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 07:49 PM
I brought this up at my blog (www.broncosdraft.wordpress.com) the other day.

I can't believe a DC hasn't been hired yet. We don't have a scheme in place and have no continuity there.

Sure, having the rest of the staff and personnel there for the Senior Bowl will be big, but getting a DC (and a LB and Secondary coach) would be important, especially considering that the future DC might be interested in seeing these kids perform or have a hand in evaluating them.

Just ****ing shameful.

Maybe we are waiting on the right guy, like Mike Trogac?

I believe Fox already knows what he is going to run on defense and is acting accordingly.

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 07:50 PM
Did you really go searching through posts from days ago to find a spelling error?

Days? That was minutes ago, son.

I believe the weed is getting to you.

Archer81
01-23-2011, 07:50 PM
So...what I am hearing is that we build the front seven and then use late round/ ufa's in the secondary. As long as we have one great defensive back (which we do) the rest should solve itself?

Its so simple its devious...

:Broncos:

Requiem
01-23-2011, 07:51 PM
Maybe we are waiting on the right guy, like Mike Trogac?

I believe Fox already knows what he is going to run on defense and is acting accordingly.

Fox might have a defensive philosophy in mind, and he should being a defensive coach, but he is now responsible for getting in a guy who can go in there and run it. Perhaps we are waiting for Trogac, but still.

The Denver Brass has emphasized a multi-level revamp of the defense, and are about to go to Mobile without a DC, linebackers and secondary coach.

If they were ****ing smart, they would already have hired someone and had **** in place.

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 07:54 PM
Fox might have a defensive philosophy in mind, and he should being a defensive coach, but he is now responsible for getting in a guy who can go in there and run it. Perhaps we are waiting for Trogac, but still.

The Denver Brass has emphasized a multi-level revamp of the defense, and are about to go to Mobile without a DC, linebackers and secondary coach.

If they were ****ing smart, they would already have hired someone and had **** in place.

I got you. But at this point, if they believe Trogac is the guy (we know the history), then they have to wait.

They did try to address the situation with Mora, but he turned us down.

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 07:58 PM
So...what I am hearing is that we build the front seven and then use late round/ ufa's in the secondary. As long as we have one great defensive back (which we do) the rest should solve itself?

Its so simple its devious...

:Broncos:

Gee, I don't know.

Baltimore was without 3/4s of their starting preseason secondary for their first six games of the season and still had one of the best defenses in the league.

I'm not saying that DBs aren't important. Thats ludicrious. What am saying is that a majority of the best defenses in the league invest a lot of high draft picks on their front seven.

They know something you don't.

Archer81
01-23-2011, 08:14 PM
Gee, I don't know.

Baltimore was without 3/4s of their starting preseason secondary for their first six games of the season and still had one of the best defenses in the league.

I'm not saying that DBs aren't important. Thats ludicrious. What am saying is that a majority of the best defenses in the league invest a lot of high draft picks on their front seven.

They know something you don't.


Yeah...

I was not disagreeing with you sweetie. It just seems overly simple. Its hard to build a front seven that can get a pass rush and stop the run. I want Denver to do this, so hopefully the team gets lucky and picks up talent in FA and adds to it with a good draft.

:Broncos:

cutthemdown
01-23-2011, 08:15 PM
I could list front seven guys we drafted also its just they all suck.

OABB
01-23-2011, 08:15 PM
Whose trogac?

primetime714
01-23-2011, 08:15 PM
This thread is funny Pitt isn't there cause of the positions they draft they're there cause of the talent they drafted. Look at their drafts. They haven't missed on a 1st round pick in forever. Their front office is absolutely amazing.

The Packers have been solid in the draft as well particularly with that slam dunk of a draft in 2009 (Raji and Matthews in the 1st round).

The lesson here is simply to draft well.

The Browns drafted Courtney Brown and Gerard Warren. That didn't help them one bit. There are plenty of other high draft picks from the front 7 that did nothing to help their teams.

I think front 7 guys have the potential to provide greater impact, but bust potential can be quite high.

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 08:28 PM
Days? That was minutes ago, son.


You are quickly being exposed as one of the more dim witted posters around here.

The post you quoted was from another thread, and is at least 3 days old.

And you've made it clear you have no idea that caveat is even a word, let alone what it's meaning is.

bronco0608
01-23-2011, 08:36 PM
You are quickly being exposed as one of the more dim witted posters around here.

The post you quoted was from another thread, and is at least 3 days old.

And you've made it clear you have no idea that caveat is even a word, let alone what it's meaning is.

Did you really go searching through your posts from days ago to find a spelling error?

And kudos for spelling caveat correctly. You should be proud of yourself.

Here's a hug:

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/scavenger/2009/11/10/deadhead_r4_c11.jpg

Dedhed
01-23-2011, 08:43 PM
Did you really go searching through your posts from days ago to find a spelling error?

And kudos for spelling caveat correctly. You should be proud of yourself.


Nice try, but you didn't pull off a cover up. I didn't go searching through anything. I find it pretty easy to remember what I wrote about, and know exactly what that quote was in reference to. You'd have to think someone was as dumb as you to think you could pull that off.

FYI-Next time you try something like that put a capital D on "Dedhed" in the quote tab, that way no one will know you forged it.

You're a bright one aren't you?

That One Guy
01-23-2011, 09:18 PM
Whose trogac?

One of the D assistants in GB. He was Fox's DC for a few years in Carolina before leaving the team. He's the one many have had a hard-on for lately but since the Pack keep winning, we keep going without a DC for even longer.

Agamemnon
01-23-2011, 09:49 PM
We have invested a lot into our front seven also...we just don't have any leadership in the bunch at all. No one to account to.

We have?

DJ Williams and Robert Ayers are the only 1st rounders on our front seven.

orange crusher
01-23-2011, 09:57 PM
Whose trogac?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Trgovac

strafen
01-23-2011, 10:01 PM
Green Bay:

Clay Matthews 1st round pick
AJ Hawk 1st Round Pick
Nick Burnet 1st Round Pick
BJ Raji 1st Round Pick
Ryan Pickett 1st Round Pick
Justin Harrell 1st Round Pick
DE Mike Neal 2nd Round Pick


Pittsburgh:

Casey Hampton 1st round pick
Ziggy Hood 1st round pick
Lawerence Timmons 1st round pick
James Farrior 1st round pick
Lamar Woodley 2nd round pick
DE Jason Worilds 2nd round pickI'm most impressed with the Green Bay picks.

If somebody would want to know what drafting an IMPACT player means, or is, just look at Clay Matthews and BJ Raji.
Those guys transformed their defense.
What's scary about GB is that they have a strong defense and a strong offense.
Well-balanced team. Shoul be no problem for them to win the SB this year.
I know Pittsburgh is great, but I give GB a slightly edge.

It's going to be a great SB.
Truly and clearly, the best two teams competing for the championship...

That One Guy
01-23-2011, 10:09 PM
I'm most impressed with the Green Bay picks.

If somebody would want to know what drafting an IMPACT player means, or is, just look at Clay Matthews and BJ Raji.
Those guys transformed their defense.
What's scary about GB is that they have a strong defense and a strong offense.
Well-balanced team. Shoul be no problem for them to win the SB this year.
I know Pittsburgh is great, but I give GB a slightly edge.

It's going to be a great SB.
Truly and clearly, the best two teams competing for the championship...

The problem with GB is you never know what team is showing up. That 9-0 highlight reel against the Jets earlier in the season, for example. One week they can put up 40 like they did against ATL and then the next week they can put up 12 against a much less talented team. Pitt is more consistent, in my opinion, but GB has the potential to blow up at any given time.

Agamemnon
01-23-2011, 10:12 PM
I'm most impressed with the Green Bay picks.

If somebody would want to know what drafting an IMPACT player means, or is, just look at Clay Matthews and BJ Raji.
Those guys transformed their defense.
What's scary about GB is that they have a strong defense and a strong offense.
Well-balanced team. Shoul be no problem for them to win the SB this year.
I know Pittsburgh is great, but I give GB a slightly edge.

It's going to be a great SB.
Truly and clearly, the best two teams competing for the championship...

Should be no problem? Hilarious!

I'm hoping they win, and I think they can. But it isn't going to be easy. Aaron Rodgers is going to have to carry them with his arm, because they're probably not going to even come close to 50 yards rushing in that game.

strafen
01-23-2011, 10:15 PM
The problem with GB is you never know what team is showing up. That 9-0 highlight reel against the Jets earlier in the season, for example. One week they can put up 40 like they did against ATL and then the next week they can put up 12 against a much less talented team. Pitt is more consistent, in my opinion, but GB has the potential to blow up at any given time.

They bend but don't break is what we saw today.
They found a way to win. The defense scored bailing out a stagnant offense

They'e not going to dominate in every game, but they're good enough to pull a win.
It was cold in Chicago today!

TheChamp24
01-24-2011, 03:43 AM
Steelers 1st round picks since 2000:
2000 - Plaxico Burress, WR
2001 - Casey Hampton, DT/NT
2002 - Kendall Simmons, OL
2003 - Troy Polamalu, S
2004 - Ben Roethlisberger, QB
2005 - Heath Miller, TE
2006 - Santonio Holmes, WR
2007 - Lawrence Timmons, LB
2008 - Rashard Mendenhall, RB
2009 - Ziggy Hood, DL
2010 - Maurkice Pouncey, C

4 Defensive players in that list, and they took Polamalu before they got most of their playmakers in the front 7 like Harrison, Woodley, Timmons, Hood.

I'm not saying we shouldn't take a DL high, but the notion its either take a DL at pick 2 or we made a mistake is poor thinking. You take the best available player to help your team.
I highly think both options are good out of these two and wouldn't mind either:
Option 1:
Take Fairley/Bowers round 1, then look at secondary help round 2
Option 2:
Take Peterson round 1, then look at DL help round 2

The MVPlaya
01-24-2011, 05:10 AM
One team in the bottom half of the league in rushing and the other team in the top half in rushing.

Everyone knows you need a great defense to make it to the SB, or a defense that can make impact plays and cause turnovers.

The bigger debate is a passing vs rushing offense...