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Drek
01-22-2011, 05:55 AM
3rd one up for discussion.


Sel # Player Position School Team
1 David Carr QB Fresno State Houston Texans
2 Julius Peppers DE North Carolina Carolina Panthers
3 Joey Harrington QB Oregon Detroit Lions
4 Mike Williams T Texas Buffalo Bills
5 Quentin Jammer DB Texas San Diego Chargers
6 Ryan Sims DT North Carolina Kansas City Chiefs
7 Bryant McKinnie T Miami (Fla.) Minnesota Vikings
8 Roy Williams FS Oklahoma Dallas Cowboys
9 John Henderson DT Tennessee Jacksonville Jaguars
10 Levi Jones T Arizona State Cincinnati Bengals
11 Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse Indianapolis Colts
12 Wendell Bryant DT Wisconsin Arizona Cardinals
13 Donte' Stallworth WR Tennessee New Orleans Saints
14 Jeremy Shockey TE Miami (Fla.) New York Giants
15 Albert Haynesworth DT Tennessee Tennessee Titans
16 William Green RB Boston College Cleveland Browns
17 Phillip Buchanon CB Miami (Fla.) Oakland Raiders
18 T.J. Duckett RB Michigan State Atlanta Falcons
19 Ashley Lelie WR Hawaii Denver Broncos
20 Javon Walker WR Florida State Green Bay Packers
21 Daniel Graham TE Colorado New England Patriots
22 Bryan Thomas DE Alabama-Birmingham New York Jets
23 Napoleon Harris MLB Northwestern Oakland Raiders
24 Ed Reed SS Miami (Fla.) Baltimore Ravens
25 Charles Grant DE Georgia New Orleans Saints
26 Lito Sheppard CB Florida Philadelphia Eagles
27 Mike Rumph DB Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers
28 Jerramy Stevens TE Washington Seattle Seahawks
29 Marc Colombo T Boston College Chicago Bears
30 Kendall Simmons G Auburn Pittsburgh Steelers
31 Robert Thomas OLB UCLA St. Louis Rams
32 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane Washington Redskins

Drek
01-22-2011, 06:00 AM
While Henderson and Freeney are good players the big question here to me at least is Peppers v. Ed Reed.

I'd personally have to go with Reed, but Peppers might beat him out if Reed has to hang 'em up soon and Peppers plays like he did this year for Chicago. Up to this season though Peppers has been a very good DE that took plays off. Reed meanwhile was arguably the best defensive back period in the entire league for a good chunk of time and is a game changer when he gets the ball in his hands.

srphoenix
01-22-2011, 07:12 AM
Peppers i think is the clear winner here, ashley lelie a clear loser... sucks to be us for all those years

BowlenBall
01-22-2011, 09:47 AM
No question, the best pick has to be Ed Reed. Julius Peppers has been a very good player, but Ed Reed is a first-ballot hall of famer.

Rohirrim
01-22-2011, 10:13 AM
Ashley Lelie. :vermeil:

goldengopher1976
01-22-2011, 10:31 AM
No question, the best pick has to be Ed Reed. Julius Peppers has been a very good player, but Ed Reed is a first-ballot hall of famer.

Agreed.

Reed.
Peppers.
Freeney.

Perry1977
01-22-2011, 10:41 AM
Man, The Vols had a nasty D line that year.

Arkie
01-22-2011, 06:18 PM
The Vols had Henderson/Haynesworth, and Georgia had Seymour/Stroud the previous year. Then the Jags had Henderson/Stroud in the following years. It's like a monopoly on these four.

Broncoman13
01-22-2011, 06:34 PM
1 David Carr - DUD
2 Julius Peppers STUD
3 Joey Harrington DUD
4 Mike Williams DUD
5 Quentin Jammer STUD
6 Ryan Sims DT DUD
7 Bryant McKinnie STUD
8 Roy Williams STUD
9 John Henderson STUD
10 Levi Jones T DUD
11 Dwight Freeney STUD
12 Wendell Bryant DUD
13 Donte' Stallworth DUD/STUD
14 Jeremy Shockey TE STUD
15 Albert Haynesworth STUD
16 William Green RB DUD
17 Phillip Buchanon CB DUD
18 T.J. Duckett RB DUD
19 Ashley Lelie WR DUD
20 Javon Walker WR STUD
21 Daniel Graham TE STUD
22 Bryan Thomas DE DUD
23 Napoleon Harris MLB STUD
24 Ed Reed SS STUD
25 Charles Grant DE STUD
26 Lito Sheppard CB STUD
27 Mike Rumph DB STUD
28 Jerramy Stevens TE STUD
29 Marc Colombo T STUD
30 Kendall Simmons G DUD
31 Robert Thomas OLB DUD
32 Patrick Ramsey QB DUD


DUD- Didn't make even a little bit of a difference
STUD- Have at least a couple years of being a starter/contributor for their team. But I hate Lelie so...


All in all that was a very deep draft with a ton of good players in the first round.

mhgaffney
01-23-2011, 01:27 AM
14 duds in round one.

That's 43% of the class = dud

It that typical of most years?

eddie mac
01-23-2011, 06:11 AM
Did we have picks 19, 20, 21 and 32 on the same team at the same time???,

Drek
01-23-2011, 06:52 AM
Did we have picks 19, 20, 21 and 32 on the same team at the same time???,

Lelie was shipped out in the off-season prior to '06, we signed Graham and Ramsey in the spring prior to '07.

bap454
01-24-2011, 06:10 PM
Did not realize that Javon was picked right behind Ashley. A lot of fail in this draft. One of my favorite past times is to look back at the drafts and redraft the broncos picks to create the best possible outcome. Sad but true.

listopencil
01-28-2011, 09:39 AM
Good Lord. Deltha O'Neal, Willie Middlebrooks, Ashlie Lelie. I feel like crying.

schaaf
01-28-2011, 09:43 AM
Good Lord. Deltha O'Neal, Willie Middlebrooks, Ashlie Lelie. I feel like crying.

Group of winners

Missouribronc
01-28-2011, 09:58 AM
Did we have picks 19, 20, 21 and 32 on the same team at the same time???,

Lelie was shipped out in the off-season prior to '06, we signed Graham and Ramsey in the spring prior to '07.

And Gaffney was pick No. 33...

NhocCuteGirlz
01-28-2011, 10:00 AM
While Henderson and Freeney are good players the big question here to me at least is Peppers v. Ed Reed.



I'd personally have to go with Reed, but Peppers might beat him out if Reed has to hang 'em up soon and Peppers plays like he did this year for Chicago. Up to this season though Peppers has been a very good DE that took plays off. Reed meanwhile was arguably the best defensive back period in the entire league for a good chunk of time and is a game changer when he gets the ball in his hands.
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PRBronco
01-28-2011, 10:23 AM
While Henderson and Freeney are good players the big question here to me at least is Peppers v. Ed Reed.



I'd personally have to go with Reed, but Peppers might beat him out if Reed has to hang 'em up soon and Peppers plays like he did this year for Chicago. Up to this season though Peppers has been a very good DE that took plays off. Reed meanwhile was arguably the best defensive back period in the entire league for a good chunk of time and is a game changer when he gets the ball in his hands.
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Missouribronc
01-28-2011, 11:36 AM
Just a quick re-ordering, based only on the players taken in the first round...so not taking into account that Brian Westbrook would have been taken in the first round and not the third, if there was an actual do-over...

Sel # Player Pos. School Team
1 Ed Reed SS Miami (Fla.) Houston Texans
2 Julius Peppers DE North Carolina Carolina Panthers
3 Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse Detroit Lions
4 Bryant McKinnie T Miami (Fla.) Buffalo Bills
5 A. Haynesworth DT Tennessee San Diego Chargers
6 Charles Grant DE Georgia Kansas City Chiefs
7 John Henderson DT Tennessee Minnesota Vikings
8 Roy Williams FS Oklahoma Dallas Cowboys
9 Levi Jones T Arizona State Jacksonville Jaguars
10 Quentin Jammer DB Texas Cincinnati Bengals
11 Jeremy Shockey TE Miami (Fla.) Indianapolis Colts
12 P. Buchanon CB Miami (Fla.) Arizona Cardinals
13 Bryan Thomas DE Ala.-Birmingham New Orleans Saints
14 Daniel Graham TE Colorado New York Giants
15 Javon Walker WR Florida State Tennessee Titans
16 D. Stallworth WR Tennessee Cleveland Browns
17 Ashley Lelie WR Hawaii Oakland Raiders
18 Jerramy Stevens TE Washington Atlanta Falcons
19 Lito Sheppard CB Florida Denver Broncos
20 Kendall Simmons G Auburn Green Bay Packers
21 Robert Thomas OLB UCLA New England Patriots
22 Napoleon Harris MLB Northwestern New York Jets
23 Mike Williams T Texas Oakland Raiders
24 T.J. Duckett RB Michigan State Baltimore Ravens
25 Marc Colombo T Boston College New Orleans Saints
26 Mike Rumph DB Miami (Fla.) Philadelphia Eagles
27 Ryan Sims DT North Carolina San Francisco 49ers
28 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane Seattle Seahawks
29 David Carr QB Fresno State Chicago Bears
30 Joey Harrington QB Oregon Pittsburgh Steelers
31 Wendell Bryant DT Wisconsin St. Louis Rams
32 William Green RB Boston College Washington Redskins

Missouribronc
01-28-2011, 12:07 PM
What a crappy quarterback class. The best of the bunch is David Garrard.

Because I'm a geek, and was curious. Combined 60,561 yards, 319 TDs, 304 INTs, 795 sacks for 5,003 yards lost, 227 fumbles, 90 lost...for 15 players combined. A combined QB rating of 74.8.

Without Garrard's numbers...44,558 yards, 230 TDs, 250 INTs, 71.4 rating, 69 lost fumbles.