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tsiguy96
01-20-2011, 04:28 PM
some previous reports had him staying, others had him interviewing in dallas for WR spot. hes officially staying, promoted to QB coach. per broncos on twitter.

BigPlayShay
01-20-2011, 04:31 PM
Jeff Rogers also added as Special Teams Coordinator:

http://twitter.com/#!/Denver_Broncos/status/28231995993628672

@Denver_Broncos
Denver Broncos: The Broncos have announced two additions to the 2011 coaching staff: Special Teams Coordinator Jeff Rodgers and QB Coach Adam Gase.

tsiguy96
01-20-2011, 04:33 PM
Jeff Rogers also added as Special Teams Coordinator:

http://twitter.com/#!/Denver_Broncos/status/28231995993628672

@Denver_Broncos
Denver Broncos: The Broncos have announced two additions to the 2011 coaching staff: Special Teams Coordinator Jeff Rodgers and QB Coach Adam Gase.

that was unofficial for quite awhile like some other coaching changes, the gase thing was up in the air. time to bump the staff thread i spose.

Chris
01-20-2011, 04:35 PM
http://prod.static.panthers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/team/2010-coaches/rodgers_jeff.jpg

Coaching

Jeff Rodgers was promoted to special teams coordinator on Jan. 30, 2010 after spending the 2009 season as the Panthers' special teams and strength and conditioning assistant. He brings six years of NFL apprenticeship to the position following five years assisting with San Francisco's special teams and one with Carolina's units.

In between the 49ers and Panthers, Rodgers served as the special teams coordinator in 2008 at Kansas State, where he elevated the special teams units to among the nation's best. The Wildcats led the country in blocked kicks with a school-record nine, blocked punts with four and kickoff coverage with an opponents’ average drive start of the 21.9-yard line. Kansas State also scored six special teams touchdowns, including five on punt returns. Additionally, Rodgers coached two players who earned All-Big 12 honorable mention: kick/punt returner Brandon Banks and kicker Brooks Rossman.

Rodgers previously gained NFL experience with San Francisco from 2003-07, working as the special teams quality control coach for two seasons before being elevated to assistant special teams coach in 2005. In 2007, he helped Pro Bowl punter Andy Lee finish first in the NFC and second in the NFL in net punting with an average of 41.0 yards and set a league record with 42 punts inside the 20. The 49ers also ranked first in the NFL in kickoff coverage with an opponents’ average drive start of the 24.9-yard line.

During the 2005 season, kicker Joe Nedney established a team record with a 92.9 percent field-goal percentage, converting 26-of-28 field-goal attempts, while San Francisco’s kickoff coverage unit stood third in the league. Long snapper Brian Jennings was named to the Pro Bowl in 2004, and in Rodgers’ first year with the 49ers, they led the NFL with five special teams take-aways.

He broke into coaching at the University of Arizona as a graduate assistant on defense, assisting with the secondary in 2001 and flex linebackers in 2002.

Playing and Personal

Rodgers played linebacker at North Texas, where he earned his degree in business, specializing in entrepreneurship and strategic management. He attended Westlake HS in Austin, Texas but was born in St. Paul, Minn.

History

Linebacker North Texas 1996-99. College coach: Arizona 2001-02, Kansas State 2008. Pro coach: San Francisco 49ers 2003-07, joined Panthers in 2009.

tsiguy96
01-20-2011, 04:39 PM
how does a guy go from coaching into strength and conditioning, then back again?

ColoradoDarin
01-20-2011, 04:39 PM
Love that we're keeping Gase, and Rodgers looks like a quality hire as well.

baja
01-20-2011, 04:49 PM
Love that we're keeping Gase, and Rodgers looks like a quality hire as well.

Ever read a resume that didn't look like a quality hire?

HooptyHoops
01-20-2011, 04:55 PM
Gase proved he is a good coach....hopefully he can coach up Tebow to be a franchise QB!! Happy to have him on the staff!

dbfan21
01-20-2011, 04:58 PM
http://prod.static.panthers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/team/2010-coaches/rodgers_jeff.jpg

Coaching

Jeff Rodgers was promoted to special teams coordinator on Jan. 30, 2010 after spending the 2009 season as the Panthers' special teams and strength and conditioning assistant. He brings six years of NFL apprenticeship to the position following five years assisting with San Francisco's special teams and one with Carolina's units.

In between the 49ers and Panthers, Rodgers served as the special teams coordinator in 2008 at Kansas State, where he elevated the special teams units to among the nation's best. The Wildcats led the country in blocked kicks with a school-record nine, blocked punts with four and kickoff coverage with an opponents’ average drive start of the 21.9-yard line. Kansas State also scored six special teams touchdowns, including five on punt returns. Additionally, Rodgers coached two players who earned All-Big 12 honorable mention: kick/punt returner Brandon Banks and kicker Brooks Rossman.

Rodgers previously gained NFL experience with San Francisco from 2003-07, working as the special teams quality control coach for two seasons before being elevated to assistant special teams coach in 2005. In 2007, he helped Pro Bowl punter Andy Lee finish first in the NFC and second in the NFL in net punting with an average of 41.0 yards and set a league record with 42 punts inside the 20. The 49ers also ranked first in the NFL in kickoff coverage with an opponents’ average drive start of the 24.9-yard line.

During the 2005 season, kicker Joe Nedney established a team record with a 92.9 percent field-goal percentage, converting 26-of-28 field-goal attempts, while San Francisco’s kickoff coverage unit stood third in the league. Long snapper Brian Jennings was named to the Pro Bowl in 2004, and in Rodgers’ first year with the 49ers, they led the NFL with five special teams take-aways.

He broke into coaching at the University of Arizona as a graduate assistant on defense, assisting with the secondary in 2001 and flex linebackers in 2002.

Playing and Personal

Rodgers played linebacker at North Texas, where he earned his degree in business, specializing in entrepreneurship and strategic management. He attended Westlake HS in Austin, Texas but was born in St. Paul, Minn.

History

Linebacker North Texas 1996-99. College coach: Arizona 2001-02, Kansas State 2008. Pro coach: San Francisco 49ers 2003-07, joined Panthers in 2009.

I hope this means the Rich Tuten experiment is officially over. IMHO, he was horrible at teaching players how to avoid injuries. Good riddance!!

BroncoSojia
01-20-2011, 05:15 PM
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tsiguy96
01-20-2011, 05:17 PM
I hope this means the Rich Tuten experiment is officially over. IMHO, he was horrible at teaching players how to avoid injuries. Good riddance!!

strength coaches dont teach players how to avoid injuries, the main idea is to put them in position so they are strong enough (or not weak in areas) that injuries arent as bad or in a situation where a weaker, less mobile player would get injured, your player wont.

oubronco
01-20-2011, 05:18 PM
And Rob Ryan is the new DC in Dallas

dbfan21
01-20-2011, 05:31 PM
strength coaches dont teach players how to avoid injuries, the main idea is to put them in position so they are strong enough (or not weak in areas) that injuries arent as bad or in a situation where a weaker, less mobile player would get injured, your player wont.

I disagree. They are on the field during workouts and they have a hand in instructing the players on stretching the muscles. This goes hand in hand with building muscles - it's keeping the muscles in top condition to handle the rigors of the job. It's why they call it strength and conditioning.

tsiguy96
01-20-2011, 05:36 PM
I disagree. They are on the field during workouts and they have a hand in instructing the players on stretching the muscles. This goes hand in hand with building muscles - it's keeping the muscles in top condition to handle the rigors of the job. It's why they call it strength and conditioning.

conditioning has nothing to do with the coaches being on the field during warmups. warmups again can only do much, as peyton hillis found out in 08, you push a muscle past its flexibility point it tears or strains. thats why every level of football has injuries, even the absolute best S+C programs which are typically in college, S+C can only put players in position to avoid injury, it wont prevent it.

baja
01-20-2011, 05:37 PM
I would say flexibility is more crucial than strength when it comes to injury prevention and the reason why I wish the Broncos would institute a regular yoga practice.

tsiguy96
01-20-2011, 05:40 PM
I would say flexibility is more crucial than strength when it comes to injury prevention and the reason why I wish the Broncos would institute a regular yoga practice.

not exactly true. flexibility is important, and crucial in some cases, but often times it comes down to pure muscular strength to avoid injury or be able to accept the load that would otherwise hurt a player. asymmetrical athletes or people with limiting balances will get injured more than those who are strong, symmetrical and without a considerable weakness in a particular area. not to mention strength training increases strength of surrounding tendons and ligaments which are injured as much or more in football players than muscles.

dbfan21
01-20-2011, 05:46 PM
conditioning has nothing to do with the coaches being on the field during warmups. warmups again can only do much, as peyton hillis found out in 08, you push a muscle past its flexibility point it tears or strains. thats why every level of football has injuries, even the absolute best S+C programs which are typically in college, S+C can only put players in position to avoid injury, it wont prevent it.

I did not say warmups, I said workouts. OTAs, training camps, etc. That example of Hillis is not what I am referring to. I am referring to Knowshon significantly injuring his hammy on THE FIRST PLAY OF TRAINING CAMP. If he would have stretched out better, that injury doesn't happen. That's what a good S&C coach can do for you...help prevent those silly injuries from happening.

baja
01-20-2011, 05:46 PM
not exactly true. flexibility is important, and crucial in some cases, but often times it comes down to pure muscular strength to avoid injury or be able to accept the load that would otherwise hurt a player. asymmetrical athletes or people with limiting balances will get injured more than those who are strong,<b> symmetrical and without a considerable weakness in a particular area. </b>not to mention strength training increases strength of surrounding tendons and ligaments which are injured as much or more in football players than muscles.

Logical.

What's your take on Yoga?

tsiguy96
01-20-2011, 05:53 PM
Logical.

What's your take on Yoga?

****ing hard. ever done it? id recommend it for most athletes, but not in offseason training and definitely not as a replacement for traditional strength and power training.

bowtown
01-20-2011, 05:57 PM
I'd like to see more sprints.

bowtown
01-20-2011, 06:02 PM
I hope this means the Rich Tuten experiment is officially over. IMHO, he was horrible at teaching players how to avoid injuries. Good riddance!!

I wonder if my wife will understand on our 16th anniversary when I refer to it as an "experiment."

baja
01-20-2011, 06:05 PM
****ing hard. ever done it? id recommend it for most athletes, but not in offseason training and definitely not as a replacement for traditional strength and power training.

Yes I have /do

Muscled up people think it is easy (for girls) until they try it and it kicks their asses. It works on core muscles very different than strength training.

tsiguy96
01-20-2011, 06:09 PM
Yes I have /do

Muscled up people think it is easy (for girls) until they try it and it kicks their asses. It works on core muscles very different than strength training.

most modern strength training actually uses pretty progressive core training to not just train abs, but deep abdominal and pelvic muscles which are 100% overlooked in most training programs.

they also borrow some from specific yoga movements, especially in warmups because yoga is so movement and mobility oriented. mobility is key in athletes, because mobility assessment will very easily show weaknesses in an athlete that can be corrected with time.

Chris
01-20-2011, 06:16 PM
I would say flexibility is more crucial than strength when it comes to injury prevention and the reason why I wish the Broncos would institute a regular yoga practice.

Someone has lived in California too long...



just kidding. I did ashtanga yoga for a while but while I found that it did wonders for my flexibility (and obviously was good for circulation) I couldn't pick up any chicks because of how sweaty i got... at the end of the thing I was basically forced to meditate in a pool of my own armpit juice. Also... it wore me out to the point where it detracted from lifting weights.

tsiguy96
01-20-2011, 06:20 PM
Someone has lived in California too long...



just kidding. I did ashtanga yoga for a while but while I found that it did wonders for my flexibility (and obviously was good for circulation) I couldn't pick up any chicks because of how sweaty i got... at the end of the thing I was basically forced to meditate in a pool of my own armpit juice. Also... it wore me out to the point where it detracted from lifting weights.

exactly why id never recommend someone do this in offseason training. a time and place for everything, and offseason is for getting bigger, faster and stronger (more powerful)!

baja
01-20-2011, 06:21 PM
Someone has lived in California too long...



just kidding. I did ashtanga yoga for a while but while I found that it did wonders for my flexibility (and obviously was good for circulation) I couldn't pick up any chicks because of how sweaty i got... at the end of the thing I was basically forced to meditate in a pool of my own armpit juice. Also... it wore me out to the point where it detracted from lifting weights.

In order to become proficient at yoga it is a huge benefit to be a vegetarian because with the more alkaline diet you are much more flexible and you body oder is reduced to almost nothing plus you are not near as sore because your body has far less lactic acid.

schaaf
01-20-2011, 10:36 PM
The broncos don't have a yoga practice???

My NAIA school has us do 2 hours of Yoga the day after every game.

Kaylore
01-21-2011, 06:26 AM
Very happy about Gase staying. I hope he's as good with quarterbacks as he is wide receivers. He's obviously a smart coach. Mixed feelings on Jeff Rogers. In the season he took over the Panthers ST finished 19th in the league. Not awesome, but better than us and the year before they were 29th, which when you consider the team's injuries, which always affect the quality of your backups/ST players, means some credit goes to Rogers. I guess we'll see!

baja
01-21-2011, 07:02 AM
So does he pronounce his name Gas 'E'

ColoradoDarin
01-21-2011, 07:31 AM
Ever read a resume that didn't look like a quality hire?

Under Rodgers in 2010, Carolina's special teams posted improvements in nearly every statistical category from the previous season, including punt return average (9.6), kickoff return average (21.9) and opponent starting field position after kickoffs (25.0)



And I figure that Gase's name rhymes with case.

bowtown
01-21-2011, 07:33 AM
Mixed feelings on Jeff Rogers. In the season he took over the Panthers ST finished 19th in the league. Not awesome, but better than us and the year before they were 29th, which when you consider the team's injuries, which always affect the quality of your backups/ST players, means some credit goes to Rogers. I guess we'll see!

I was hoping for Dennison.

tsiguy96
01-21-2011, 08:13 AM
Very happy about Gase staying. I hope he's as good with quarterbacks as he is wide receivers. He's obviously a smart coach. Mixed feelings on Jeff Rogers. In the season he took over the Panthers ST finished 19th in the league. Not awesome, but better than us and the year before they were 29th, which when you consider the team's injuries, which always affect the quality of your backups/ST players, means some credit goes to Rogers. I guess we'll see!

i would take an average ST any day of the week, instead of having to hold my breath on every kickoff and punt.

Chris
01-21-2011, 08:42 AM
In order to become proficient at yoga it is a huge benefit to be a vegetarian because with the more alkaline diet you are much more flexible and you body oder is reduced to almost nothing plus you are not near as sore because your body has far less lactic acid.

Not going to happen until I'm your age. At that point I will be living the Pescetarian Okinawan lifestyle.

baja
01-21-2011, 08:45 AM
Not going to happen until I'm your age. At that point I will be living the Pescetarian Okinawan lifestyle.

What you do now will affect the quality of life you have later. Remember that!

Kaylore
01-21-2011, 08:51 AM
In order to become proficient at yoga it is a huge benefit to be a vegetarian because with the more alkaline diet you are much more flexible and you body oder is reduced to almost nothing

:rofl: Is that what you hippies think? That you really don't stink? I work with a woman who is very healthy. Doesn't eat any meat, dairy or soy products and does yoga, eats organic vegetables. She has an amazing body. The other day she is telling me how she doesn't have to wear deodorant because her body is so clean. The funny thing is no one can stand next to her for too long because she literally stinks to high heaven of BO. It's one of those things everyone in the department knows.

I think you probably smell but get used to it the way smokers think they smell normal.

Drek
01-21-2011, 08:59 AM
Very happy about Gase staying. I hope he's as good with quarterbacks as he is wide receivers. He's obviously a smart coach. Mixed feelings on Jeff Rogers. In the season he took over the Panthers ST finished 19th in the league. Not awesome, but better than us and the year before they were 29th, which when you consider the team's injuries, which always affect the quality of your backups/ST players, means some credit goes to Rogers. I guess we'll see!

Priefer did his job here. Prater and Colquitt are now good specialists that we can retain for the next decade or so. No Rodgers just needs to improve our coverage and return game.

PRBronco
01-21-2011, 09:22 AM
i would take an average ST any day of the week, instead of having to hold my breath on every kickoff and punt.

Yeah really. Also was it just me or did every remotely positive (non Cassius Vaughn related) special teams play end up coming back with a block in the back or a hold?

Tombstone RJ
01-21-2011, 09:48 AM
:rofl: Is that what you hippies think? That you really don't stink? I work with a woman who is very healthy. Doesn't eat any meat, dairy or soy products and does yoga, eats organic vegetables. She has an amazing body. The other day she is telling me how she doesn't have to wear deodorant because her body is so clean. The funny thing is no one can stand next to her for too long because she literally stinks to high heaven of BO. It's one of those things everyone in the department knows.

I think you probably smell but get used to it the way smokers think they smell normal.

:rofl:

Tombstone RJ
01-21-2011, 09:51 AM
Fact is, some people just have stronger BO than others and it has almost nothing to do with what they eat (notice I said "almost" nothing). Also, I really think it has a lot to do with the climate a person lives in too. If you sweat more you're just gonna stink more...

PRBronco
01-21-2011, 09:53 AM
This thread has gone hilariously off topic.

baja
01-21-2011, 10:00 AM
Fact is, some people just have stronger BO than others and it has almost nothing to do with what they eat (notice I said "almost" nothing). Also, I really think it has a lot to do with the climate a person lives in too. If you sweat more you're just gonna stink more...

Wrong!

Go on a prolonged fast sometime and you will see what BO really is but after several days you will lose the smell and not have any body oder to speak of. This is not even debatable.

Tombstone RJ
01-21-2011, 10:02 AM
Wrong!

just rub some patuli on it... !Booya!

Tombstone RJ
01-21-2011, 10:08 AM
Wrong!

Go on a prolonged fast sometime and you will see what BO really is but after several days you will get used to your own funk and not have any body oder to speak of, unless you're around other peeps who will have a funny look when your around. This is not even debatable.

Fixed it for you captain stank...

Kaylore
01-21-2011, 07:52 PM
Well at least we solved smelly hippie group mystery.

More on topic, I'm glad Gase is staying.

Requiem
01-21-2011, 08:30 PM
What up Baja?

Archer81
01-21-2011, 08:40 PM
More body hair you have, the more you sweat and it produces odors. So the solution is to nair, wax or shave every hair off of your body and eat nothing but lettuce.

Ramen.

:Broncos:

cutthemdown
01-21-2011, 09:48 PM
I never even heard of Gase before this yr and refuse to micromanage the asst spots like I know who the good coaches are. Basically people run and see how his unit did last yr and make a decision. Yeah that is scientific.

baja
01-21-2011, 10:26 PM
Well at least we solved smelly hippie group mystery.

More on topic, I'm glad Gase is staying.

Think again boys.

This article touches on a subject that's quite sensitive to many people: body odor. Here, we explore the link between the foods you choose to consume and the odor produced by your body (there is a direct correlation). With all the hundreds of millions of dollars spent each year on personal care products and deodorants, I'm amazed there's almost no discussion about reducing body odor by changing your diet. In fact, when I've mentioned this subject to some people, they look at me in bewilderment. They ask questions like "What do you mean, your foods control your body odor? Body odor is genetic!" -- or some other nonsense. What they need is a crash course in the underlying causes of body odor. We'll call it The Fundamentals of Offensive Personal Odors, or just Body Odor 101, for short.
Lesson number one in Body Odor 101 is that what comes out of your body reflects what you put in. Body odor is something that's strongly affected by what's being emitted by your sweat glands. And remember, armpits are designed to sweat. I know that may sound insanely simple, because everybody knows that armpits sweat, but I'm saying that armpits are supposed to perspire. Yet people go to great lengths to prevent their armpits from sweating using deodorant products containing toxic chemicals and derivatives of heavy metals like aluminum.



Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/004417.html

tsiguy96
01-21-2011, 10:28 PM
Think again boys.

This article touches on a subject that's quite sensitive to many people: body odor. Here, we explore the link between the foods you choose to consume and the odor produced by your body (there is a direct correlation). With all the hundreds of millions of dollars spent each year on personal care products and deodorants, I'm amazed there's almost no discussion about reducing body odor by changing your diet. In fact, when I've mentioned this subject to some people, they look at me in bewilderment. They ask questions like "What do you mean, your foods control your body odor? Body odor is genetic!" -- or some other nonsense. What they need is a crash course in the underlying causes of body odor. We'll call it The Fundamentals of Offensive Personal Odors, or just Body Odor 101, for short.
Lesson number one in Body Odor 101 is that what comes out of your body reflects what you put in. Body odor is something that's strongly affected by what's being emitted by your sweat glands. And remember, armpits are designed to sweat. I know that may sound insanely simple, because everybody knows that armpits sweat, but I'm saying that armpits are supposed to perspire. Yet people go to great lengths to prevent their armpits from sweating using deodorant products containing toxic chemicals and derivatives of heavy metals like aluminum.



Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/004417.html

id rather eat like my great, great descendants did, be healthy and maybe stink a little bit (and cover it up with deodorant) than worry about alkaline diets.

baja
01-21-2011, 10:35 PM
If only you guys were half as informed as you think you are.

Boomhauer
01-22-2011, 04:29 PM
In order to become proficient at yoga it is a huge benefit to be a vegetarian because with the more alkaline diet you are much more flexible and you body oder is reduced to almost nothing plus you are not near as sore because your body has far less lactic acid.

Um, no. But interesting dietary sales pitch. :pimp: :blueflame

Boomhauer
01-22-2011, 04:31 PM
Wrong!

Go on a prolonged fast sometime and you will see what BO really is but after several days you will lose the smell and not have any body oder to speak of. This is not even debatable.

Um, no. Could you explain how fasting effects surface bateria and hormones?

Tombstone RJ
01-22-2011, 08:21 PM
If only you guys were half as informed as you think you are.

well, this is why you are here, to inform us idiots... btw, you stink....!Booya!

baja
01-22-2011, 08:44 PM
Um, no. Could you explain how fasting effects surface bateria and hormones?

Actually people over wash their bodies and remove the natural acidic condition of their skin. Skin brushing is a much better way to cleanse and exfoliate the skin.

http://healingtools.tripod.com/skinbrush.html

Hormonal balance is huge and impossible to cover here.

I would recommend starting here;

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