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UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
01-18-2011, 11:02 PM
Here's a list name I haven't heard yet.

Joe Vitt

Asst. Head Coach/Linebackers, born August 23, 1954, Syracuse, N.Y. Linebacker Towson State 1974-78. No pro playing experience. Pro coach: Baltimore Colts 1979-1981, Seattle Seahawks 1982-1991, Los Angeles Rams 1992-94, Philadelphia Eagles 1995-98, Green Bay Packers 1999, Kansas City Chiefs 2000-03, St. Louis Rams 2004-05 (head coach, final 11 games of 2005), joined Saints in 2006.

Robert Nunn

Defensive line; born June 10, 1965, Apache, Okla. Linebacker Oklahoma State 1984-87. No pro playing experience. College coach: Northeastern Oklahoma 1988, Tennessee 1989-1990, Georgia Military 1991-99. Pro coach: Miami Dolphins 2000-02, 2004, Washington Redskins 2003, Green Bay Packers 2005-08, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2009, joined Giants in 2010.

Dean Pees

Linebackers; born September 4, 1949, Dunkirk, Ohio. Attended Bowling Green. No college or pro playing experience. College coach: Findlay 1979-1982, Miami (Ohio) 1983-86, Navy 1987-89, Toledo 1990-93, Notre Dame 1994, Michigan State 1995-97, Kent State 1998-2003. Pro coach: New England Patriots 2004-09. Joined Ravens in 2010.

John Marshall

Defensive Coordinator; born October 2, 1945, Arroyo Grande, Calif. Linebacker Washington State 1964. No pro playing experience. College coach: Oregon 1970-76, Southern California 1977-79. Pro coach: Green Bay Packers 1980-82, Indianapolis Colts 1986-88, San Francisco 49ers 1989-1998, Carolina Panthers 1999-2001, Detroit Lions 2002, Seattle Seahawks 2003-08, joined Raiders in 2009.

Don Johnson
Defensive Line; born November 3, Newark, N.J. Defensive lineman Jersey City State 1973-76. Pro defensive lineman New Jersey Generals (USFL) 1977. College coach: Jersey City State 1984-85, Riverside (Calif.) C.C. 1987-1990, 1993-94, Cal State-Fullerton 1991-92, Nevada-Reno 1995-99, UCLA 2000-04. Pro coach: Chicago Bears in 2005-08. Joined Chargers in 2009.

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UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
01-18-2011, 11:07 PM
Everybody on this list is a position coach or DC of a top 10 defense. Another condition was they seem to make the top 10 without A-list person at ther position or defense. And last they aren't in the playoffs.

SoCalBronco
01-18-2011, 11:11 PM
In terms of actual football knowledge and teaching ability, Ron Vanderlinden is as qualified as anyone to run a defense, although he's primarily been a college guy.

bronco0608
01-18-2011, 11:47 PM
In terms of actual football knowledge and teaching ability, Ron Vanderlinden is as qualified as anyone to run a defense, although he's primarily been a college guy.

Unless he is your uncle, how in the world can you say this? I just looked up the guys profile and the last time he was a DC was 14 years ago.

Right now, he is the linebackers coach for Penn State.

If he is so qualified, why has it been a decade since he has had any responsiblity running a defense? He is a position coach.

You can't be serious. Can you? Jesus, he has been a linebackers coach in college for the past decade. He might can coach some linebackers, but thats it.

The MVPlaya
01-18-2011, 11:50 PM
Which of those coaches have failed and sucked miserably lately?

List those at the top.

~Crash~
01-18-2011, 11:57 PM
Dick Jauron

~Crash~
01-18-2011, 11:59 PM
Dave Wannstedt

Premier-Ace55
01-19-2011, 04:48 AM
Man this is starting to make me nervous any other candidates maybe darkhorse ones.

meangene
01-19-2011, 05:57 AM
Dave Wannstedt

I'm on board with this. He is interviewing in Cleveland - hope we talk to him.

broncswin
01-19-2011, 06:34 AM
I'm on board with this. He is interviewing in Cleveland - hope we talk to him.

ya been saying this for a couple of weeks now...I think this guy and fox would be a great team^5

Kaylore
01-19-2011, 06:39 AM
I would like to see us give a position coach a chance. Before you all freak out and say "OMG liek wINKKKKK!!?!?!?" hear me out.

Wink failed because there was no veteran presence to guide him and help him week to week. We had coordinators all who had never coordinated before learning as they go. Fox has been doing this for years, as has most of the staff he's brought in. That would provide a solid background that whomever we bring in can be groomed from. Also it would be cheaper and the person would be more likely to stay rather than get hired away. We need to create some continuity on defense for the next several years.

meangene
01-19-2011, 06:57 AM
ya been saying this for a couple of weeks now...I think this guy and fox would be a great team^5

Think so too. Plus, he is a 4-3 guy and a lot of the potential candidates are not. Wannstedt is a great DC, just not HC material.

White Horses Inc.
01-19-2011, 07:14 AM
Kevin Greene..?.he has got intensity and he could teach our guys how to wrestle too.

Man-Goblin
01-19-2011, 07:40 AM
Don Johnson just so we can have a coach named Don Johnson.

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BroncosMT
01-19-2011, 07:47 AM
Didn't we look at Pees before?

ColoradoBuff
01-19-2011, 08:29 AM
Mike Trgovac current DL coach at Green Bay and was Carolina's DC from 2003-2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Trgovac

Smiling Assassin27
01-19-2011, 08:35 AM
Dave Wannstedt

Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner.

Smiling Assassin27
01-19-2011, 08:36 AM
Kevin Greene..?.he has got intensity and he could teach our guys how to wrestle too.

This one is intriguing but I'll be honest. Dude seems to be 4 parts Hulk Hogan, 1 part Pee Wee Herman. I'm not sure he's ready from a scheme perspective or leadership perspective at this point.

orinjkrush
01-19-2011, 08:43 AM
Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner.

+1

no more coaching projects please. somebody with a modicum of success already.

2KBack
01-19-2011, 08:49 AM
This one is intriguing but I'll be honest. Dude seems to be 4 parts Hulk Hogan, 1 part Pee Wee Herman. I'm not sure he's ready from a scheme perspective or leadership perspective at this point.

He's totally not ready, but man...he would at the very least be intense. That guy was a maniac, and an often forgotten player when discussing badass linebackers.

Drek
01-19-2011, 08:52 AM
I'd be a big fan of Dean Pees. His time in New England and Baltimore shows a great background in fluid front seven alignments, which would help this team mask the holes and accentuate the talents we do have while we strengthen the defense through the draft.

montrose
01-19-2011, 08:56 AM
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Ray Finkle
01-19-2011, 09:21 AM
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that almost got you negative rep....

Smiling Assassin27
01-19-2011, 09:36 AM
He's totally not ready, but man...he would at the very least be intense. That guy was a maniac, and an often forgotten player when discussing badass linebackers.

Agreed. Dude was one of my favorite players--intensity, speed, and was only concerned with winning. The Hulk Hogan dialect made him even more appealing. Ha!

BroncoDoug
01-19-2011, 11:44 AM
what about giving wink one more year? They haven't acutally fired him yet and he is under contract for one last year still.

bronco0608
01-19-2011, 01:07 PM
I would like to see us give a position coach a chance. Before you all freak out and say "OMG liek wINKKKKK!!?!?!?" hear me out.

Wink failed because there was no veteran presence to guide him and help him week to week. We had coordinators all who had never coordinated before learning as they go. Fox has been doing this for years, as has most of the staff he's brought in. That would provide a solid background that whomever we bring in can be groomed from. Also it would be cheaper and the person would be more likely to stay rather than get hired away. We need to create some continuity on defense for the next several years.

He had Ed Donnatell on his staff who was a DC in the league for two different teams.

I don't think you can bring a guy in who has never coordinated before at this level when you are dealing with the worst defense in the league. You need experience.

Hamrob
01-19-2011, 03:30 PM
I'd like an older/experienced guy...who can groom someone underneath him for a few years. Then when he retires or takes a head coaching gig...we have someone on deck.

Any word on Mora Jr.?

Boomhauer
01-20-2011, 11:00 AM
what about giving wink one more year? They haven't acutally fired him yet and he is under contract for one last year still.

No objection to Wink. I thought he did a good job this year. Could you clarify his standing with the club? No longer listed as a staff member, but you say not fired and still on contract - so is he just a DC on full-pay leave until they recall him?

BroncoDoug
01-20-2011, 11:09 AM
No objection to Wink. I thought he did a good job this year. Could you clarify his standing with the club? No longer listed as a staff member, but you say not fired and still on contract - so is he just a DC on full-pay leave until they recall him?

I read it from this article: http://broncotalk.net/2011/01/20538/broncos-blog/might-the-broncos-retain-martindale/

he entire staff would include an defensive coordinator, so is Elway saying that the team will have signed a new one by then, or is the team perhaps considering keep current DC Don Martindale?

If the team was serious about signing Mora, Trgovac or someone else, wouldn’t they have already fired Martindale? He is still under contract and it has only been speculated that he’ll be fired; the Broncos have said nothing of it.

mkporter
01-20-2011, 11:44 AM
I would like to see us give a position coach a chance. Before you all freak out and say "OMG liek wINKKKKK!!?!?!?" hear me out.

Wink failed because there was no veteran presence to guide him and help him week to week. We had coordinators all who had never coordinated before learning as they go. Fox has been doing this for years, as has most of the staff he's brought in. That would provide a solid background that whomever we bring in can be groomed from. Also it would be cheaper and the person would be more likely to stay rather than get hired away. We need to create some continuity on defense for the next several years.

This. I'd also love to see Trgovschkich..ckh.

strafen
01-20-2011, 11:54 AM
No objection to Wink. I thought he did a good job this year. Could you clarify his standing with the club? No longer listed as a staff member, but you say not fired and still on contract - so is he just a DC on full-pay leave until they recall him?

Wink did a good job in his first 4 games. After that, all hell broke loose.
Our defense finished at the bottom or near the bottom of most important stats

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
01-20-2011, 07:30 PM
Joe Baker
Linebackers; born June 29, 1969, Glen Ridge, N.J. Wide receiver Princeton 1987-1990. No pro playing experience. College coach: East Stroudsburg 1991, Samford 1993, Wisconsin 1999. Pro coach: Birmingham Fire (WFL) 1992, Jacksonville Jaguars 1995-98, New Orleans Saints 2000-04, Green Bay Packers 2005, St. Louis Rams 2006, Denver Broncos 2007-08, joined Buccaneers in 2009.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
01-20-2011, 07:36 PM
Oh and how about Mangini(sp) former cleveland brown coach?

mkporter
01-20-2011, 10:22 PM
Tennessee's DC, Chuck Cecil is available. He might be worth a interview.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
01-20-2011, 10:34 PM
Tennessee's DC, Chuck Cecil is available. He might be worth a interview.

Good/ok defense, with (I think) only one or two pro-bowler. I like that. See what he does with 4-5 pro-bowler on his squad.

gunns
01-20-2011, 10:42 PM
Keith Butler

Linebackers, Pittsburgh; born May 16, 1956, Anniston, Ala. Linebacker Memphis 1974-77. Pro linebacker Seattle Seahawks 1978-1987. College coach: Memphis 1990-97, Arkansas State 1998. Pro coach: Cleveland Browns 1999-2002, joined Steelers in 2003.

Hasn't Jauron already gone to a team?

DarkHorse
01-21-2011, 01:20 AM
Man this is starting to make me nervous any other candidates maybe darkhorse ones.

I'm not really good at coaching but if you give me some more talent i'll do what I can.

Jetmeck
01-21-2011, 03:14 AM
+1

no more coaching projects please. somebody with a modicum of success already.

exactly

Broncos_OTM
01-21-2011, 06:28 AM
Without talent the d is dooned ...you can only polish a turd so long