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OBF1
01-18-2011, 12:47 AM
The Denver Post is reporting that the Broncos are close to hiring former Atlanta and Seattle coach Jim L. Mora as defensive coordinator.

If Mora gets the job, he’ll be Denver’s sixth defensive coordinator in six seasons. Denver should improve defensively under the guidance of Mora and new head coach John Fox, a defensive specialist. Denver was last in the NFL in total defense and points allowed in 2010. PER ESPN

This is the news SoCal has been waiting for ROFL!

✡✡ JOSHUA ✡✡
01-18-2011, 12:49 AM
Here Mora, Jr. takes on my Jewish friend.

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footstepsfrom#27
01-18-2011, 12:55 AM
The questions were stupid, but he ought to know he's gonne get stupid questions from the media. He sounds like a real prick.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-18-2011, 01:12 AM
Holmes scores 4 TDs, sprains ankle

http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=241024012


Holmes' four TDs rushing in a half tied the NFL record and also broke the record for most in a game against the Falcons.

"I am honored to be a part of history," Atlanta coach Jim Mora said sarcastically. "We have done a tremendous job of stopping the run. So it just emphasized how well they played. Their O-line was doing such an excellent, tremendous job, it might not have mattered who was in there."

The Chiefs' historic day began, oddly enough, with Holmes losing a fumble on their first play from scrimmage.

"In a game like that, you just want to keep running the ball," said Waters. "For an offensive lineman, that's a lovely day. That's a dream."

The collapse of the defense, which had been given great credit for Atlanta's 5-1 start, was nearly complete. They came in with 20 sacks but hardly even got a hand on Trent Green, who had 269 yards passing on 20 completions.
"The red light started going off," said Atlanta tackle Ed Jasper. "They were literally the best running team we've played against. They took it to us."
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Killericon
01-18-2011, 01:24 AM
Holmes scores 4 TDs, sprains ankle

http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=241024012


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Falcons beat Rams in the Playoffs, advance to NFC championship game. (http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=240919001)

Not as recent as, say, the Broncos' last playoff win, but Mora Jr.'s last playoff win was certainly more recent than the Chiefs'.

ghostofjosh
01-18-2011, 04:42 AM
Holmes scores 4 TDs, sprains ankle

http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=241024012


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wow..thats awsome...can you post something thats happened in the last 5 years

Odysseus
01-18-2011, 04:48 AM
Mora might work well with Fox. I am glad they are going for fundamentals and returning to solid basics. My concern is will management listen to younger coaches that they will need to have on staff. A young Rex Ryan on staff might be seen as brash but we need that contrast.

The MVPlaya
01-18-2011, 05:57 AM
Does anyone find it suspect that Denver cannot hire a key coach with any potential?

I mean I think it's a good thing Denver is hiring experienced personel for stability... but I really don't see any long term continuity with this staff, because lets be real for a second... Broncos aren't going to SB with McCoy and Mora as OC and DC.

However, Mora has always allowed no more than 21.x PPG and no less than 20.5 PPG with his defenses outside of his recent stint with the Seahawks... which is pretty much the NFL average.

Ratboy
01-18-2011, 06:04 AM
Does anyone find it suspect that Denver cannot hire a key coach with any potential?

I mean I think it's a good thing Denver is hiring experienced personel for stability... but I really don't see any long term continuity with this staff, because lets be real for a second... Broncos aren't going to SB with McCoy and Mora as OC and DC.

Why do you think hiring guys like McCoy and Mora do not bring long term continuity?

Ratboy
01-18-2011, 06:05 AM
Does anyone find it suspect that Denver cannot hire a key coach with any potential?

I mean I think it's a good thing Denver is hiring experienced personel for stability... but I really don't see any long term continuity with this staff, because lets be real for a second... Broncos aren't going to SB with McCoy and Mora as OC and DC.

However, Mora has always allowed no more than 21.x PPG and no less than 20.5 PPG with his defenses outside of his recent stint with the Seahawks... which is pretty much the NFL average.

FFS,

This is not Mora's defense.

It is John Fox's defense.

The MVPlaya
01-18-2011, 06:41 AM
Why do you think hiring guys like McCoy and Mora do not bring long term continuity?

Because we probably won't get to the super bowl either as OC/DC.

When I say continuity, it doesn't mean I don't think they can be here for more than 2-3 seasons.

I'm talking about the long run for 5+ years.

I mean McCoy might have potential but he didn't exactly do the greatest job with Orton or Tebow when he got the chance at the end of the season... however I think it's fair to give him more than those games.

McCoy has never been part of any great offense in his coaching career, as matter of fact he's been part of some of the worst.

The best were with the Broncos and once in 2008. Hopefully he learned something from McDaniels but I highly doubt less than 2 years is enough to call him a disciple.

I mean he has an opportunity here... but I dont' think many people are high on him.

The MVPlaya
01-18-2011, 06:42 AM
FFS,

This is not Mora's defense.

It is John Fox's defense.

Fox doesn't call plays. He's a managing HC who oversees everything... he and Mora will probably work together in terms of philosophy and all that, but anytime you hire an ex-HC as your coord. you better bet he'll want to do as many things as he can possibly can HIS way...

Broncoman13
01-18-2011, 06:49 AM
Does anyone find it suspect that Denver cannot hire a key coach with any potential?

I mean I think it's a good thing Denver is hiring experienced personel for stability... but I really don't see any long term continuity with this staff, because lets be real for a second... Broncos aren't going to SB with McCoy and Mora as OC and DC.

However, Mora has always allowed no more than 21.x PPG and no less than 20.5 PPG with his defenses outside of his recent stint with the Seahawks... which is pretty much the NFL average.

Link?

The MVPlaya
01-18-2011, 07:13 AM
Link?

If you're talking about the stats then ESPN.com NFL section ---> Stats ---> Total Offense

Ray Finkle
01-18-2011, 07:18 AM
Because we probably won't get to the super bowl either as OC/DC.

When I say continuity, it doesn't mean I don't think they can be here for more than 2-3 seasons.

I'm talking about the long run for 5+ years.

I mean McCoy might have potential but he didn't exactly do the greatest job with Orton or Tebow when he got the chance at the end of the season... however I think it's fair to give him more than those games.

McCoy has never been part of any great offense in his coaching career, as matter of fact he's been part of some of the worst.

The best were with the Broncos and once in 2008. Hopefully he learned something from McDaniels but I highly doubt less than 2 years is enough to call him a disciple.

I mean he has an opportunity here... but I dont' think many people are high on him.


if people weren't high on McCoy, there wouldn't have been 4 teams after him as the OC....

Jesterhole
01-18-2011, 07:32 AM
The questions were stupid, but he ought to know he's gonne get stupid questions from the media. He sounds like a real prick.

Good. He coaches defense, and I want that guy to be a prick. Defense should have attitute...I'm tired of the soft, pudgy, old guys we've had here. Nolan was the only one the break the mold and the only one to do really well before McFail ran him off.

edog24
01-18-2011, 07:45 AM
Fox, McCoy, Mora, it's a dream team!

OrangeSe7en
01-18-2011, 07:50 AM
Here Mora, Jr. takes on my Jewish friend.

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That makes me like him more. "How should they feel???!!!...is this your first interview?"...that was great.

Rulon Velvet Jones
01-18-2011, 07:51 AM
Fox doesn't call plays. He's a managing HC who oversees everything... he and Mora will probably work together in terms of philosophy and all that, but anytime you hire an ex-HC as your coord. you better bet he'll want to do as many things as he can possibly can HIS way...

Yeah, you see that a lot around the league now. Former HCs trying their hardest to upset things by trying to get their way.

Or not.

Rascal
01-18-2011, 08:05 AM
That interview makes him look like a bigger asshole than I thought he was.

Garcia Bronco
01-18-2011, 08:06 AM
we'll see.

OrangeSe7en
01-18-2011, 08:07 AM
That interview makes him look like a bigger a-hole than I thought he was.

Really? I thought he was totally justified given that one of the questions was, "how should they feel?"

Bigdawg26
01-18-2011, 08:07 AM
Here Mora, Jr. takes on my Jewish friend.

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Man what an @sshole!! I think Doug got the best of him though!Hilarious!

peacepipe
01-18-2011, 08:14 AM
FFS,

This is not Mora's defense.

It is John Fox's defense.

You think mora is going to come in just to be a show pony?

Hamrob
01-18-2011, 08:35 AM
I like the hire. The players need coaches with experience. Jim Mora was hired by 2 NFL Franchises to be their Head Football Coach. He was offered a 3rd job by the Redskins and turned it down to stay in Seattle. He's been highly recruited as a DC in this league. Sure, his defenses have only been average...but, have they had better than average talent. Because, with the scrubs we have...I'd gladly be average...instead of the worst in the league.

As for McCoy, I thought he did a really good job the last 4 games of the season. I consider the Cardinals game a scratch...it came right after their head coach was fired and both players and coaches alike were wondering about their immediate futures. There was bound to be a let down.

McCoy gave Tebow what he thought he could handle without hanging him out to dry. Each week he fed him a little bit more. The result...most fans are high on Tebow's potential. I'd say that's a big accomplishment for McCoy who did so on the fly!

Broncoman13
01-18-2011, 08:58 AM
That makes me like him more. "How should they feel???!!!...is this your first interview?"...that was great.

Same here. I thought the interview was full of some lame ass questions. I'm not pro-Mora but there has to be something making a lot of execs liking him to lead their teams.

Kaylore
01-18-2011, 09:04 AM
Same here. I thought the interview was full of some lame ass questions. I'm not pro-Mora but there has to be something making a lot of execs liking him to lead their teams.

Yeah I don't understand why people don't see how stupid that question is. Why should Mora tell another team's fan base how to react? How does him being a coach qualify him to do so? It's a stupid, baiting question.

Even so, I'm still "meh" about Mora as our DC, but we could do way worse.

Broncoman13
01-18-2011, 09:12 AM
Yeah I don't understand why people don't see how stupid that question is. Why should Mora tell another team's fan base how to react? How does him being a coach qualify him to do so? It's a stupid, baiting question.

Even so, I'm still "meh" about Mora as our DC, but we could do way worse.

This is where I'm at. Wouldn't mind having Fox's old buddy from GB... Mora would be fine though.

errand
01-18-2011, 09:25 AM
if people weren't high on McCoy, there wouldn't have been 4 teams after him as the OC....

...not to mention his playcalling when Tebow was the starter was probably more a product of Tim being a rookie, and limited grasp of the whole playbook.

I'm thinking that perhaps the two rookies starting on the OL, moreno not being at 100%, and playing against two defenses nearly every game had more to do with our offensive woes than playcalling.

Royalfan19
01-18-2011, 09:37 AM
John Fox and now Jim Mora? this organization is finally moving in the right direction.

Actually glad McDonalds failed so miserably, able to get him and his horrible approach to organizational management out of this franchise quickly.

UberBroncoMan
01-18-2011, 10:42 AM
Mora unlike Nolan has never had a consistent streak of excellent defense. I don't want this dude here...why the **** can't we get a Pitt/Balt kind of guy. All they do is shine year in and out. I don't ****ing get why anyone could be excited about Jim Mora. I don't believe he's ever even had a top 5 defense before.

broncocalijohn
01-18-2011, 12:12 PM
Mora unlike Nolan has never had a consistent streak of excellent defense. I don't want this dude here...why the **** can't we get a Pitt/Balt kind of guy. All they do is shine year in and out. I don't ****ing get why anyone could be excited about Jim Mora. I don't believe he's ever even had a top 5 defense before.

How things have been going lately, I would take a top 12 defense.

Royalfan19
01-18-2011, 12:45 PM
Mora unlike Nolan has never had a consistent streak of excellent defense. I don't want this dude here...why the **** can't we get a Pitt/Balt kind of guy. All they do is shine year in and out. I don't ****ing get why anyone could be excited about Jim Mora. I don't believe he's ever even had a top 5 defense before.

Don't think he's the best thing since sliced bread, just think he's a solid coach. All the good coaches around here have been fired and driven out, some great coaches and GMs as well. We are 4-12, I'm happy with incremental improvements for now.

OBF1
01-18-2011, 12:48 PM
Mora unlike Nolan has never had a consistent streak of excellent defense. I don't want this dude here...why the **** can't we get a Pitt/Balt kind of guy. All they do is shine year in and out. I don't ****ing get why anyone could be excited about Jim Mora. I don't believe he's ever even had a top 5 defense before.

In all honesty, I do not think anyone could make the current roster a top 20 defense. Who ever comes in is going to need alot of personel help to make this D plain good.

Odysseus
01-18-2011, 01:11 PM
I like the hire. The players need coaches with experience. Jim Mora was hired by 2 NFL Franchises to be their Head Football Coach. He was offered a 3rd job by the Redskins and turned it down to stay in Seattle. He's been highly recruited as a DC in this league. Sure, his defenses have only been average...but, have they had better than average talent. Because, with the scrubs we have...I'd gladly be average...instead of the worst in the league.

As for McCoy, I thought he did a really good job the last 4 games of the season. I consider the Cardinals game a scratch...it came right after their head coach was fired and both players and coaches alike were wondering about their immediate futures. There was bound to be a let down.

McCoy gave Tebow what he thought he could handle without hanging him out to dry. Each week he fed him a little bit more. The result...most fans are high on Tebow's potential. I'd say that's a big accomplishment for McCoy who did so on the fly!

I stopped following Mora when he was with the Saints. His interview with the Colts about the playoffs has become classic interview sarcasm for years. I have never followed John Fox. I don't know a thing about McCoy.

I think that most fans, with these particular coaches, are pretty much in the same position. We have to wait to see what these coaches do.

I think it speaks volumes that Bowlen went for experience and predictability with who he is selecting. He is picking guys who have been around the league and who can bring experience as well as savvy. Pete Carroll is a nice guy who I did not expect to do as well as he has done but his team is in the playoffs. Mora has been in the playoffs. Fox has been in the playoffs.

Here is the trick. If you can get players on the same page and build some leadership through playoff experience anything can happen.

Greatspirits
01-18-2011, 01:12 PM
I'd like to see Trgovac as our new DC, not particulary enamored with Mora.

Tombstone RJ
01-18-2011, 01:14 PM
I stopped following Mora when he was with the Saints. His interview with the Colts about the playoffs has become classic interview sarcasm for years. I have never followed John Fox. I don't know a thing about McCoy.

I think that most fans, with these particular coaches, are pretty much in the same position. We have to wait to see what these coaches do.

I think it speaks volumes that Bowlen went for experience and predictability with who he is selecting. He is picking guys who have been around the league and who can bring experience as well as savvy. Pete Carroll is a nice guy who I did not expect to do as well as he has done but his team is in the playoffs. Mora has been in the playoffs. Fox has been in the playoffs.

Here is the trick. If you can get players on the same page and build some leadership through playoff experience anything can happen.

You are thinking of Jim Mora Sr. It is Jim Mora Jr. who is being interviewed for the Broncos DC position.

CEH
01-18-2011, 01:16 PM
In all honesty, I do not think anyone could make the current roster a top 20 defense. Who ever comes in is going to need alot of personel help to make this D plain good.

Someone asked Elway what are your expectations for next year and finally someone associated with the Broncos said that next year maybe 8-8.

He knows the defense needs a couple years to rebuild.

This is why I like the Fox hire. For the next 2-3 years build our core through the draft

Homer Simpson
01-18-2011, 01:49 PM
It's all gone awfully quiet today on Broncos news front.

NFLBRONCO
01-18-2011, 01:50 PM
Someone asked Elway what are your expectations for next year and finally someone associated with the Broncos said that next year maybe 8-8.

He knows the defense needs a couple years to rebuild.

This is why I like the Fox hire. For the next 2-3 years build our core through the draft

I hope alot of fans realize this fact too.

OrangenBlueOhio
01-18-2011, 02:05 PM
Not too sure about Mora. If his defenses have never been ranked all that high, is he just getting attention because of his last name. Maybe Fox should bring in someone who he could teach his style of defense to while Tebow matures. And no, I have no clue who that would be.

Kaylore
01-18-2011, 02:14 PM
It's all gone awfully quiet today on Broncos news front.

I bet Mora likes the analyst side of things. You can earn a lot of money to say your crappy opinion and there is zero accountability when you're wrong. This is why I think Gruden will never coach again.

PRBronco
01-18-2011, 02:18 PM
If Ted is ok with Jim Mora, I guess I'm ok: http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/you-got-served-1-18-2011

"While I am certain that this will underwhelm a lot of fans, I’m personally fine with it. I think that Mora is a solid coach, who has historically liked to blitz a bit more than Fox’s defenses have. That could lend a bit of unpredictability to the scheme, which can be good or bad.
More than anything, though, I think Mora is unlikely to ever be a Head Coach in the NFL again, and that he may be in Denver for awhile, assuming he’s hired. That would promote the kind of continuity that has been missing for quite awhile, and that I think is sorely needed. There’s a risk he may elect to leave for a college Head Coaching job, but that risk isn’t any greater than it is with anybody else. His alma mater, the University of Washington, could have already hired him once if they'd wanted to, and they didn’t, so it’s hard to see them choosing to do so the next time, either, if they can Steve Sarkisian."

BroncosMT
01-18-2011, 02:49 PM
I bet Mora likes the analyst side of things. You can earn a lot of money to say your crappy opinion and there is zero accountability when you're wrong. This is why I think Gruden will never coach again.

I guess one would think that if it was supposed to be done it would have by now....

Hamrob
01-18-2011, 02:56 PM
Mora probably wants the assistant headcoach title....like Singletary just received. Fox may not want to go there.

Steve Sewell
01-18-2011, 03:07 PM
John Fox and now Jim Mora? this organization is finally moving in the right direction.

Actually glad McDonalds failed so miserably, able to get him and his horrible approach to organizational management out of this franchise quickly.

Did you seriously just call him McDonalds? ROFL!

NYBronc
01-18-2011, 03:17 PM
Francessa on The Fan just said Mora Jr. is going to the Eagles.

BroncosMT
01-18-2011, 03:24 PM
Francessa on The Fan just said Mora Jr. is going to the Eagles.

I figured this is probably where he would end up....

PRBronco
01-18-2011, 03:26 PM
Francessa on The Fan just said Mora Jr. is going to the Eagles.

Commence "omg we suck so much we couldn't get Mora!1!" meltdown threads. I'm looking at you MVPlaya.

BroncosMT
01-18-2011, 03:28 PM
commence "omg we suck so much we couldn't get mora!1!" meltdown threads. I'm looking at you mvplaya.

^5

mkporter
01-18-2011, 03:28 PM
In all honesty, I do not think anyone could make the current roster a top 20 defense. Who ever comes in is going to need alot of personel help to make this D plain good.

Nolan did it last year with pretty much the same roster (And Dumerville, which is a gigantic difference).

OBF1
01-18-2011, 03:28 PM
No No No... Us fans suck according to mvp

UberBroncoMan
01-18-2011, 03:29 PM
Commence "omg we suck so much we couldn't get Mora!1!" meltdown threads. I'm looking at you MVPlaya.

I hope we suck that much.

ton80
01-18-2011, 03:34 PM
Does anyone find it suspect that Denver cannot hire a key coach with any potential?

I mean I think it's a good thing Denver is hiring experienced personel for stability... but I really don't see any long term continuity with this staff, because lets be real for a second... Broncos aren't going to SB with McCoy and Mora as OC and DC.

However, Mora has always allowed no more than 21.x PPG and no less than 20.5 PPG with his defenses outside of his recent stint with the Seahawks... which is pretty much the NFL average.

You have the ability to cover all basis in one post better than anyone i've ever read.

Rulon Velvet Jones
01-18-2011, 03:34 PM
I'm not seeing the Mora-Eagles thing anywhere.

misturanderson
01-18-2011, 03:37 PM
Nolan did it last year with pretty much the same roster (And Dumerville, which is a gigantic difference).

And Dawkins playing at a pro-bowl level, Hill playing way better than this year (neither injured as much as this year), an uninjured Goodman. He did have a worse DL (somehow) to work with though.

Poor safety play and no QB pressure are the biggest differences between this year and last year. Goes to show how important those two aspects of a defense are.

Homer Simpson
01-18-2011, 03:45 PM
I'm not seeing the Mora-Eagles thing anywhere.

And 3 Denver area reporters just tweeted Mora has been with our staff all day.

footstepsfrom#27
01-18-2011, 04:00 PM
Good. He coaches defense, and I want that guy to be a prick. Defense should have attitute...I'm tired of the soft, pudgy, old guys we've had here. Nolan was the only one the break the mold and the only one to do really well before McFail ran him off.
I'm inclined to agree. Get an ass kicker not an ass kisser, a Ditka type, some hotheaded, screaming jerk who begs for you to hate his guts.

Tombstone RJ
01-18-2011, 04:18 PM
I'm inclined to agree. Get an ass kicker not an ass kisser, a Ditka type, some hotheaded, screaming jerk who begs for you to hate his guts.

they already tried the McD approach... didn't work...

OrangenBlueOhio
01-18-2011, 05:09 PM
Mora probably wants the assistant headcoach title....like Singletary just received. Fox may not want to go there.

I saw something on ESPN about Singletary, thought it said he is in charge of DB's or something. Not even defensive coordinator.

mkporter
01-18-2011, 06:52 PM
@PostBroncos:

No deal in place yet for Mora as DC. He spent the day at Dove Valley meeting with Fox + staff, but flew out this evening.


http://twitter.com/PostBroncos/status/27542564525580288

Broncos_OTM
01-18-2011, 07:08 PM
Well hopefully we do our due dilegance if he didnt wnt the job keep stepping there are others out there

Bigdawg26
01-18-2011, 07:10 PM
The arrogant prick prolly left because he couldn't hire his own defensive staff.

ghostofjosh
01-18-2011, 07:36 PM
everything out here in ct has mora to philly..rumors of course

OrangeSe7en
01-18-2011, 07:36 PM
@PostBroncos:

No deal in place yet for Mora as DC. He spent the day at Dove Valley meeting with Fox + staff, but flew out this evening.


http://twitter.com/PostBroncos/status/27542564525580288

He's going to Philly and will probably sign with them.

Hamrob
01-18-2011, 08:17 PM
I saw something on ESPN about Singletary, thought it said he is in charge of DB's or something. Not even defensive coordinator.Singletary was hired as "Assistant HC/LB's".



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/18/singletary-gets-assistant-head-coach-title-in-minnesota/

Hamrob
01-18-2011, 08:24 PM
He's going to Philly and will probably sign with them.Cleveland is the other team in need of a DC. I wonder who is next on Fox's list.



Mike Trgovac???

Rohirrim
01-18-2011, 08:28 PM
Are we still "close" to hiring Mora? What, are we sneaking up on him?

Play2win
01-18-2011, 08:34 PM
Geeze should this be one of the times I feel lucky for NOT having the NFL Network? He must be a real prick on the air to get this type of reaction.

TD30
01-18-2011, 09:33 PM
Not sure he didn't sign elway tweeted that he is excited to have the entire staff for the senior bowl next week

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
01-18-2011, 10:11 PM
This is the first time I think I've ever said this about anyone. But lets just "Say no" to Mora. Please.

BroncoInferno
01-19-2011, 06:57 AM
Cleveland is the other team in need of a DC. I wonder who is next on Fox's list.



Mike Trgovac???

Does anyone know why Trgovac left Carolina after the 2008 season to take a lesser position (DL coach) with Green Bay? All I can find is that he informed Fox and the Panthers GM that he was leaving, but no reason was given. So, he wasn't fired, but left to take a lesser job? Strange.

NhocCuteGirlz
01-19-2011, 07:00 AM
Here Mora, Jr. takes on my Jewish friend.




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fontaine
01-19-2011, 07:47 AM
I'm inclined to agree. Get an ass kicker not an ass kisser, a Ditka type, some hotheaded, screaming jerk who begs for you to hate his guts.

McDaniels?
Hilarious!