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GoBroncos84
01-16-2011, 08:15 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/16/nick-fairley-will-play-anywhere-except-in-the-cold/

In the pre-draft poking and prodding, the things an incoming rookie says can have as much impact on his eventual placement — and payday — as the things he does.

In declaring his intention to forgo his final year of eligibility at Auburn and head to the NFL, Fairley made an observation about his first NFL destination that some teams could view as a red flag.

Asked where he wants to play at the next level, Fairley said (via Chris Brown of BuffaloBills.com), “It doesn’t matter as long as it’s not cold.”

Um. Yeah.

Maybe he really didn’t mean it. Then again, maybe he did. Either way, the remark will surely be used by any interested team in assessing whether Fairley “gets it” and/or whether he’ll bring a sense of entitlement to the NFL.

HooptyHoops
01-16-2011, 08:17 PM
Funny....why would you even say that?

ØrangeÇrush
01-16-2011, 08:20 PM
let nit picking begin..

Hamrob
01-16-2011, 08:31 PM
Sounds like a kid that wants to make it perfectly clear...I want to go to Carolina (#1)!

Because, Denver, Buffalo and Cinncinatti all get cold. The Cards pick at #5....and he would be giving up alot of doe rey me waiting until then.

You know...what we don't need is a "Head-case" on our hands.

OABB
01-16-2011, 08:32 PM
It's because the cold hurts his fists more when punching a defensless player. Makes sense.

EzBronco715
01-16-2011, 08:33 PM
Everyone here is so level headed, surely no one will over react to this.....

OrangeSe7en
01-16-2011, 08:33 PM
too bad

Pony Boy
01-16-2011, 08:36 PM
Right....Carolina only plays home games

randomtask
01-16-2011, 08:36 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/chiefmartinez/GIFs/spock.gif


Intriguing.

Cmac821
01-16-2011, 08:49 PM
Everyone here is so level headed, surely no one will over react to this.....

Are we not allowed to over react or do you just want to be right?

It is hard to watch a person with such talent act like he has some entitlement despite his negative rep and no nfl expierance. It is hard for me and probably others to see such a Talent be wasted.

SoCalBronco
01-16-2011, 08:52 PM
He needs a PR guy.

OABB
01-16-2011, 08:52 PM
Are we not allowed to over react or do you just want to be right?

It is hard to watch a person with such talent act like he has some entitlement despite his negative rep and no nfl expierance. It is hard for me and probably others to see such a Talent be wasted.

Especially when he gets traded to a good team and makes it to the nfccg.

Cmac821
01-16-2011, 08:57 PM
Especially when he gets traded to a good team and makes it to the nfccg.

Is that a cuter reference? If so that was not what I was getting at. I was thinking more on the line of players who only try on contract years, Haynesworth. Or players that can't handle they are no longer the best players on the field, have no example without talking out my ass but they are out there lol.

strafen
01-16-2011, 09:09 PM
Sounds like a kid that wants to make it perfectly clear...I want to go to Carolina (#1)!

Because, Denver, Buffalo and Cinncinatti all get cold. The Cards pick at #5....and he would be giving up alot of doe rey me waiting until then.

You know...what we don't need is a "Head-case" on our hands.It gets cold in Carolina, trust me.
I was in Charlotte around mid-December and they had daytime
temperatures of 21*
It really doesn't matter what he says. He'll be playing in cold weather one way or another... ;)

Man-Goblin
01-16-2011, 09:09 PM
Sounds like a kid that wants to make it perfectly clear...I want to go to Carolina (#1)!

Because, Denver, Buffalo and Cinncinatti all get cold. The Cards pick at #5....and he would be giving up alot of doe rey me waiting until then.

You know...what we don't need is a "Head-case" on our hands.

Hmmmmm. It was 26 degrees when I was driving to the office this morning. And I've still got ice in my driveway.

He better hope Arizona trades up.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-16-2011, 09:11 PM
Methinks he was making a joke.

doof
01-16-2011, 09:13 PM
How long before we get a Hey, Nick Fairley GO **** YOURSELF thread?

Man-Goblin
01-16-2011, 09:20 PM
How long before we get a Hey, Nick Fairley GO **** YOURSELF thread?

I'm about to make one. He's either a diva or really stupid for making that comment. Neither one is a good thing at #2 overall.

I wish Suh had just taken kindergarten twice, or something.

extralife
01-16-2011, 09:20 PM
he'll get over it when he sees the zeroes in the contract

lostknight
01-16-2011, 09:23 PM
This guy is a head case. We don't want to be anywhere near him.

Broncos4Life
01-16-2011, 09:34 PM
What a pussy! That said, I still want him wrecking havoc on defense. They can just give him his own personal heater for the sidelines....

Hulamau
01-16-2011, 09:38 PM
Is that a cuter reference? If so that was not what I was getting at. I was thinking more on the line of players who only try on contract years, Haynesworth. Or players that can't handle they are no longer the best players on the field, have no example without talking out my ass but they are out there lol.

That is my biggest worry with Fairly.

DivineBronco
01-16-2011, 09:52 PM
he is the 2nd coming of Albert Heynsworth.....so that becomes the question are you ready to deal with the head stomping and not caring for most plays in balance with his contract year in tenesse which was one of the most dominate years I have seen by a DL in my lifetime......
and I urge you don't look at the numbers go get some tape he was double and triple teamed every damn play he was a force of nature

KevinJames
01-16-2011, 10:03 PM
Hope he was joking if not I would like us to stay far away from this kid as possible.

Patrick Peterson or trade down if the kid wasn't joking.

Dedhed
01-16-2011, 10:14 PM
Funny....why would you even say that?

Because he's a tool. I've been on a crusade against this kid since talk of the Broncos drafting him started.

He's destined to blow up, imo. Just exhibits all the traits of a douche bag DT who's going to be a lazy unproductive head case in anything that isn't a contract year.

footstepsfrom#27
01-16-2011, 10:18 PM
I mentioned this once before but I don't think anyone noticed. Go back to the national championship game if you recorded it, and watch the trophy presentation to Auburn. The MC is speaking and his coach is on the platform to accept the trophy. In the background of this huge gathering, you can clearly hear somebody making a ton of noise in spite of the fact literally everyone else is listening to the speaker. It's Fairley...he's whoopin' it up and doing his own thing in his own little world, pretty much completely oblivious I guess to the fact that he's disturbing everyone around him. You can see this uncomfortable look on his coaches face as he's trying to speak over Fairley without letting on he's aware of it. I'm not talkling about the guy talking quietly in the background. He's full bore completelyl ignoring the fact that something is going on right in front of him that people are trying to listen to. It was an interesting spectacle...not one that tells us he's a bad guy or something, but just that he's not the brightest or most aware person. I think you can see that very quickly when he's talking as well. He's a guy who is not as mature as he needs to be to be ready for the bright lights and the big stage of the NFL and the money that comes to these guys out of nowhere. Fairley is a risk pick, not for his talent but his intangibles, maturity being one of them.

EzBronco715
01-16-2011, 10:29 PM
Are we not allowed to over react or do you just want to be right?

It is hard to watch a person with such talent act like he has some entitlement despite his negative rep and no nfl expierance. It is hard for me and probably others to see such a Talent be wasted.

I'm not trying to be right about anything, and your allowed to do whatever you want, just trying to state that I don't think this is that big of a deal IMO. Didn't mean any offense.

gunns
01-16-2011, 10:31 PM
I'm about to make one. He's either a diva or really stupid for making that comment. Neither one is a good thing at #2 overall.

I wish Suh had just taken kindergarten twice, or something.

Me too.

Dedhed
01-16-2011, 10:33 PM
I mentioned this once before but I don't think anyone noticed. Go back to the national championship game if you recorded it, and watch the trophy presentation to Auburn. The MC is speaking and his coach is on the platform to accept the trophy. In the background of this huge gathering, you can clearly hear somebody making a ton of noise in spite of the fact literally everyone else is listening to the speaker. It's Fairley...he's whoopin' it up and doing his own thing in his own little world, pretty much completely oblivious I guess to the fact that he's disturbing everyone around him. You can see this uncomfortable look on his coaches face as he's trying to speak over Fairley without letting on he's aware of it. I'm not talkling about the guy talking quietly in the background. He's full bore completelyl ignoring the fact that something is going on right in front of him that people are trying to listen to. It was an interesting spectacle...not one that tells us he's a bad guy or something, but just that he's not the brightest or most aware person. I think you can see that very quickly when he's talking as well. He's a guy who is not as mature as he needs to be to be ready for the bright lights and the big stage of the NFL and the money that comes to these guys out of nowhere. Fairley is a risk pick, not for his talent but his intangibles, maturity being one of them.That's just the type of thing that people do when they believe that literally everything is about them. No respect for anything outside of their own mind.

Like when you're talking to some douche and you can tell he's not listening. He's just looking at himself in windows and waiting until he gets to talk again so he can hear his voice.

DarkHorse
01-16-2011, 10:40 PM
Seems to fit a huge need for the team right now but I don't know, just got a very bad vibe about this guy. He acts like a thug punk, i'm hoping we pass as I forsee suspensions and shenanigans with this guy. Immense talent but, dunno, just something about him rubs me the wrong way.

Dedhed
01-16-2011, 10:43 PM
Seems to fit a huge need for the team right now but I don't know, just got a very bad vibe about this guy. He acts like a thug punk, i'm hoping we pass as I forsee suspensions and shenanigans with this guy. Immense talent but, dunno, just something about him rubs me the wrong way.

There are plenty of other needs we can address with that high pick where we don't need to turn a blind eye to numerous red flags.

footstepsfrom#27
01-16-2011, 10:54 PM
Seems to fit a huge need for the team right now but I don't know, just got a very bad vibe about this guy. He acts like a thug punk, i'm hoping we pass as I forsee suspensions and shenanigans with this guy. Immense talent but, dunno, just something about him rubs me the wrong way.
Right. It's not something you can necessarily put your finger on. He's not a loud mouth jerk or something it's just an immediate sense you get that maybe he really won't get it. He doesn't seem like a guy whose to quick between the ears. I hate the wonderlic test, because it's proven to not matter so much of the time, but I'll be interested to see how he does on it. I wonder if he might be a guy who has to be in a system where he's allowed to freelance a whole lot. I'm not sure he's a guy who can be happy unless the spotight is on him.

All this is speculation, but sometimes when more than one person sees something it's worth looking at. It would suck if we spent the #2 pick onn him and it goes south. If the guy checks out with the team and the cold weather comment is not an issue...fine I'm happy to have him if he's available and they take him. But I think it will be apparent over time that Peterson is the better player. Dareus is an option too but we'd probably trade down a few spots for him.

epicSocialism4tw
01-16-2011, 11:10 PM
Because he's a tool. I've been on a crusade against this kid since talk of the Broncos drafting him started.

He's destined to blow up, imo. Just exhibits all the traits of a douche bag DT who's going to be a lazy unproductive head case in anything that isn't a contract year.

I dont disagree.

I would love to have a player with that talent and have been one of the biggest advocates in this forum over the past few years for drafting D-line, but if Fairley says this kind of stuff and means it...those are red flags you cant ignore.

ghwk
01-16-2011, 11:37 PM
Sounds like if he weren't a stud he'd be riding the "little yellow bus" to school...

OBF1
01-16-2011, 11:40 PM
Fairley will tear this team apart.... Pass on him even if he is around in the second round.

enjolras
01-16-2011, 11:46 PM
You could have said much the same stuff about Shaun Ellis coming out of College, and he's been pretty good for the Jets. Same thing with James Harrison. It's a position that you can afford a certain level of crazy in (as long as you've built a solid leadership structure that can keep it mostly in line).

Now you do have to balance that against lazy. I personally haven't seen Fairley taking plays off, he seems to have a great motor from the games I've seen (admittedly I've only seem him play 3 times).

tldr; I can handle head-case, just not lazy.

SoCalBronco
01-16-2011, 11:52 PM
I mentioned this once before but I don't think anyone noticed. Go back to the national championship game if you recorded it, and watch the trophy presentation to Auburn. The MC is speaking and his coach is on the platform to accept the trophy. In the background of this huge gathering, you can clearly hear somebody making a ton of noise in spite of the fact literally everyone else is listening to the speaker. It's Fairley...he's whoopin' it up and doing his own thing in his own little world, pretty much completely oblivious I guess to the fact that he's disturbing everyone around him. You can see this uncomfortable look on his coaches face as he's trying to speak over Fairley without letting on he's aware of it. I'm not talkling about the guy talking quietly in the background. He's full bore completelyl ignoring the fact that something is going on right in front of him that people are trying to listen to. It was an interesting spectacle...not one that tells us he's a bad guy or something, but just that he's not the brightest or most aware person. I think you can see that very quickly when he's talking as well. He's a guy who is not as mature as he needs to be to be ready for the bright lights and the big stage of the NFL and the money that comes to these guys out of nowhere. Fairley is a risk pick, not for his talent but his intangibles, maturity being one of them.

Very good post as usual. I must admit, since it appears on the surface that we're going back to the 4-3 (primarily), I am salivating at the thought of Fairley creating alot of havoc at DT, opening it up for Doom as a pass rusher and DJ against the run, but this is a legitimate issue. He could be another Albert Haynesworth who is a great talent but the other stuff just basically clouds it and he turns into a cancer. I'm not saying that he is one, but between the being a dirty player and kind of acting like a jerk in other ways, it could be something that develops. I wonder how they will grapple with that decision at No. 2 if he's there.

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 12:24 AM
I think it's also going to be very interesting to see how Stephen Paea grades out. He had 7 sacks from the DT spot and this guy has shown he can gain weight. He came in at 280 and 311 now. He's also very new to the sport, having only taken it up in his senior year of HS. He's a rugby player as well, and you know that makes him tough. He's reportedly rising already so by the time the draft gets here, he could be a top 10 pick. If Fairley goes #1 it's assumed Dareus is the next DT off the board but I think this guy could sneak up there. I don't think he drops past the middle of the round and he might sneak into the top 10. We could get back up there with the 2nd round ammo plus Orton as trade bait.

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 12:39 AM
Very good post as usual. I must admit, since it appears on the surface that we're going back to the 4-3 (primarily), I am salivating at the thought of Fairley creating alot of havoc at DT, opening it up for Doom as a pass rusher and DJ against the run, but this is a legitimate issue. He could be another Albert Haynesworth who is a great talent but the other stuff just basically clouds it and he turns into a cancer. I'm not saying that he is one, but between the being a dirty player and kind of acting like a jerk in other ways, it could be something that develops. I wonder how they will grapple with that decision at No. 2 if he's there.
Here's a question for you...I know you like more picks but what if our draft looked like this:

#2- Patrick Peterson
#12- Stephen Paea
#22- Akeem Ayers

We could get there using Orton and the extra 2nd rounder to move up, plus we'd probably need to aquire a couple of mid-round picks, a 4th, perhaps a 3rd as well.

We'd have the smallest draft class but imagine the playmaking talent in those three guys. Peterson and Ayers are both playmakers and Paea is too. That would be three sure-fire starters on defense all with great ability. We still have a couple late picks for adding depth.

extralife
01-17-2011, 12:47 AM
this place is hilarious

Fairley has a good game and it's IS HE GONNA BE THE BEST I THINK HE IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME PLAYER!!! everywhere. then it comes out that he CELEBRATED A CHAMPIONSHIP and DOESN'T LIKE SNOW and now it's MAN I DUNNO I ALWAYS HAD A FEELING PRETTY SURE THIS GUY IS THE ANTICHRIST

SoCalBronco
01-17-2011, 12:50 AM
Here's a question for you...I know you like more picks but what if our draft looked like this:

#2- Patrick Peterson
#12- Stephen Paea
#22- Akeem Ayers

We could get there using Orton and the extra 2nd rounder to move up, plus we'd probably need to aquire a couple of mid-round picks, a 4th, perhaps a 3rd as well.

We'd have the smallest draft class but imagine the playmaking talent in those three guys. Peterson and Ayers are both playmakers and Paea is too. That would be three sure-fire starters on defense all with great ability. We still have a couple late picks for adding depth.

I can't give an objective comment on Peterson because of the games he played with the Miami coaching staff in recruiting. I hate that drama queen biatch. Yes, he is a great corner, but I have my own issues with him. The other two guys can play, although I really would first like to hear from the staff more of what their philosophy of the front is going to be like. Primarily 4-3 and if so what kind of 4-3. From there, we'll be able to see and who fits. BTW, I dont believe they will trade Orton. I dont think Fox totally trusts Tebow and is totally comfortable having his wagon forcibly hitched to Tebow by the team. I simply dont believe he will sign off on trading Orton if he has any say in it.

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 12:57 AM
I can't give an objective comment on Peterson because of the games he played with the Miami coaching staff in recruiting. I hate that drama queen biatch. Yes, he is a great corner, but I have my own issues with him. The other two guys can play, although I really would first like to hear from the staff more of what their philosophy of the front is going to be like. Primarily 4-3 and if so what kind of 4-3. From there, we'll be able to see and who fits. BTW, I dont believe they will trade Orton. I dont think Fox totally trusts Tebow and is totally comfortable having his wagon forcibly hitched to Tebow by the team. I simply dont believe he will sign off on trading Orton if he has any say in it.
The problem is, does Orton want to be here now? I suspect the answer is no. IF we do trade Orton, we still need another veteran backup for Tim. But Orton's trade value won't get any higher than it is now. I don't see him as a distraction, but he seems unhappy with how things developed with Tebow and that's a potential problem. With a new staff coming in that's the last thing we need is more problems.

BTW...when I was a little kid I always like getting one really big present at Christmas instead of a bunch of little ones just so I could unwrap more. I'm guessing you were a "more presents" kind of kid...am I right? ;D

What did Peterson do?

SoCalBronco
01-17-2011, 01:02 AM
The problem is, does Orton want to be here now? I suspect the answer is no. IF we do trade Orton, we still need another veteran backup for Tim. But Orton's trade value won't get any higher than it is now. I don't see him as a distraction, but he seems unhappy with how things developed with Tebow and that's a potential problem. With a new staff coming in that's the last thing we need is more problems.

That's true...yes, he is going to be disgruntled and it will be kind of an issue, even if its not a full fledged distraction. He's the ideal backup though esp since its still an early stage with Tebow. I'm not sure how Fox will handle this because I get the feeling Fox would much rather have Orton in there because he's a conservative offensive football coach. So it might be awkward for him.

BTW...when I was a little kid I always like getting one really big present at Christmas instead of a bunch of little ones just so I could unwrap more. I'm guessing you were a "more presents" kind of kid...am I right? ;D

Indeed.

What did Peterson do?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=3063242&highlight=Miami#post3063242

Yes, it is slightly petty for me to be still angry with him for that, but I remember stuff like that and I don't think it reflects well on PJ to be doing stuff like that.
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cutthemdown
01-17-2011, 01:12 AM
Alabama gets pretty cold during the winter. Denver not really a super cold place is it. I don't live there so I don't really know but its not like he is used to Calif weather.

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 01:29 AM
Alabama gets pretty cold during the winter. Denver not really a super cold place is it. I don't live there so I don't really know but its not like he is used to Calif weather.
The division you play in has the most to do with the weather you see most. Carolina in the NFC South with Tampa, New Orleans and Atlanta...three warm weather cites...he might get his wish.

Wonder what he thinks about playing in altitude?

cutthemdown
01-17-2011, 01:42 AM
The division you play in has the most to do with the weather you see most. Carolina in the NFC South with Tampa, New Orleans and Atlanta...three warm weather cites...he might get his wish.

Wonder what he thinks about playing in altitude?

Well SD and Oak both pretty warm. Only KC would be a cold weather one. I would think he will end up saying he doesn't see denver as too cold. I don't see this as an issue Broncos will worry about come draft day. His agent will talk some sense into him.

OBF1
01-17-2011, 02:47 AM
Blacks are tropical people. No surprise that Fairley prefers the climates that are similar to the jungles.

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anon
01-17-2011, 02:50 AM
Fairley should have also stipulated that he doesn't play in road games either, because you will end up somewhere cold eventually.

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 03:58 AM
Blacks are tropical people. No surprise that Fairley prefers the climates that are similar to the jungles.
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Ramathorn
01-17-2011, 05:47 AM
It's because the cold hurts his fists more when punching a defensless player. Makes sense.

couldnt of put it better myself! :strong:

RhymesayersDU
01-17-2011, 06:05 AM
Everyone here is so level headed, surely no one will over react to this.....

I think people should overreact to this. I have been big on the Nick Fairly bandwagon, but it's ridiculous to make a statement like that in what is essentially a job interview. Everything he says publicly or privately will be looked at by prospective employers from now until draft day.

I don't know. Maybe it was just a stupid thing to say and he just needs a PR guy like somebody said. Or maybe he's just dumb and nothing will fix that. Not sure why you'd say a thing like that. I mean, OK, nobody wants to go to Buffalo. But for the millions he's about to receive, I think you keep quiet about it.

OrangeSe7en
01-17-2011, 06:22 AM
Here's a question for you...I know you like more picks but what if our draft looked like this:

#2- Patrick Peterson
#12- Stephen Paea
#22- Akeem Ayers

We could get there using Orton and the extra 2nd rounder to move up, plus we'd probably need to aquire a couple of mid-round picks, a 4th, perhaps a 3rd as well.

We'd have the smallest draft class but imagine the playmaking talent in those three guys. Peterson and Ayers are both playmakers and Paea is too. That would be three sure-fire starters on defense all with great ability. We still have a couple late picks for adding depth.

It would be great to get Ayers and Paea but I dont think Ayers would be there at 22. Im not sure if you have 22 because you estimate thats where we can trade up to. But it seems unlikely we can get him at 22. It would be better to just trade down and get Ayers and Paea.

rbackfactory80
01-17-2011, 06:29 AM
I am scared as hell of this guy. Too many red flags, I would not draft him.

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 06:30 AM
this place is hilarious

Fairley has a good game and it's IS HE GONNA BE THE BEST I THINK HE IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME PLAYER!!! everywhere. then it comes out that he CELEBRATED A CHAMPIONSHIP and DOESN'T LIKE SNOW and now it's MAN I DUNNO I ALWAYS HAD A FEELING PRETTY SURE THIS GUY IS THE ANTICHRIST
Calm down skippy. For starters, he's not a "once in a lifetime" player. There are Nick Fairley type linemen at the top of most drafts, and he might not even prove to be the best interior d-lineman in this draft. If you're looking for the really elite talent in this draft, it's Patrick Peterson, not Fairley. Fairley will probably be a very good player, but it's wise to look closely at some of this stuff. When you're drafting this high you'd better be right.

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 06:34 AM
It would be great to get Ayers and Paea but I dont think Ayers would be there at 22. Im not sure if you have 22 because you estimate thats where we can trade up to. But it seems unlikely we can get him at 22. It would be better to just trade down and get Ayers and Paea.
I picked #22 at random. Ayers may be gone by 10 for all we know. I don't want to trade down and lose a shot at a higher ranked player. I'd rather trade up, not down. In any case, the key is picking up some extra mid-round picks in the 3rd probably. We'll have to parlay a couple trades into having more draft ammo though. Of course we can always sit tight and still get two nice players in the 2nd round and this is a deep draft for defensive linemen.

OrangeSe7en
01-17-2011, 06:38 AM
I picked #22 at random. Ayers may be gone by 10 for all we know. I don't want to trade down and lose a shot at a higher ranked player. I'd rather trade up, not down. In any case, the key is picking up some extra mid-round picks in the 3rd probably. We'll have to parlay a couple trades into having more draft ammo though. Of course we can always sit tight and still get two nice players in the 2nd round and this is a deep draft for defensive linemen.

Well we would be better off trading down and taking a front 7 player than a DB. There's no argument to be made for taking a DB at #2.

Chris
01-17-2011, 06:46 AM
It snows in Charlotte.

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 06:54 AM
Well we would be better off trading down and taking a front 7 player than a DB. There's no argument to be made for taking a DB at #2.
I can make several, all of them sound.

OrangeSe7en
01-17-2011, 06:59 AM
I can make several, all of them sound.

No, it's just too high to take someone at that position considering the NFL is all about stopping the run and pressuring the QB. There's really no argument that offsets that reality.

Mile High Shack
01-17-2011, 06:59 AM
I think character is his biggest detriment to him, he's just a kid, so maybe he doesn't realize how bad this makes him sound

if we stick with a 3-4 I don't want him anyway

Agamemnon
01-17-2011, 07:00 AM
Well SD and Oak both pretty warm. Only KC would be a cold weather one. I would think he will end up saying he doesn't see denver as too cold. I don't see this as an issue Broncos will worry about come draft day. His agent will talk some sense into him.

Denver is highly variable, but it most definitely gets cold. It was below zero for a couple days a few weeks ago. Generally speaking, game day temps at home are going to be 25-45 in December. Night games likely 20 or lower. There's a reason they don't want a Super Bowl here.

HILife
01-17-2011, 07:05 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/16/nick-fairley-will-play-anywhere-except-in-the-cold/

In the pre-draft poking and prodding, the things an incoming rookie says can have as much impact on his eventual placement — and payday — as the things he does.

In declaring his intention to forgo his final year of eligibility at Auburn and head to the NFL, Fairley made an observation about his first NFL destination that some teams could view as a red flag.

Asked where he wants to play at the next level, Fairley said (via Chris Brown of BuffaloBills.com), “It doesn’t matter as long as it’s not cold.”

Um. Yeah.

Maybe he really didn’t mean it. Then again, maybe he did. Either way, the remark will surely be used by any interested team in assessing whether Fairley “gets it” and/or whether he’ll bring a sense of entitlement to the NFL.

Ok, that's like every NFL team. Unless you are going to play in Florida, SoCo, or Texas it's going to get cold a some point. Even if you play in a Dome for a warm weather team, more then likely half of the road games are going to be cold.

Bigdawg26
01-17-2011, 07:05 AM
Not to make an overreaction but he's starting to sound a little bit like haynesworth with cheap shots, taking plays off, and just stupid remarks. I know its early but I might just hoop on the trade down to number 5 and grab dareus band wagon.

HILife
01-17-2011, 07:07 AM
Sounds like a kid that wants to make it perfectly clear...I want to go to Carolina (#1)!

Because, Denver, Buffalo and Cinncinatti all get cold. The Cards pick at #5....and he would be giving up alot of doe rey me waiting until then.

You know...what we don't need is a "Head-case" on our hands.

It gets cold in Carolina too. Hear they've been getting alot of snow. Living in VA which boarders NC I can safely say it gets cold here.

chadta
01-17-2011, 07:13 AM
It gets cold in Carolina too. Hear they've been getting alot of snow. Living in VA which boarders NC I can safely say it gets cold here.

when i drove down to myrtle beach at christmas time, we were in snow until we hit the south carolina state line, heck we had snow until 10 miles from the coast

Dedhed
01-17-2011, 07:14 AM
You could have said much the same stuff about Shaun Ellis coming out of College, and he's been pretty good for the Jets. Same thing with James Harrison. It's a position that you can afford a certain level of crazy in (as long as you've built a solid leadership structure that can keep it mostly in line).

Now you do have to balance that against lazy. I personally haven't seen Fairley taking plays off, he seems to have a great motor from the games I've seen (admittedly I've only seem him play 3 times).

tldr; I can handle head-case, just not lazy.

Comparing taking a Fairley and his concerns at #2 overall to signing Harrison as an UDFA is a little absurd don't you think?

If Fairley goes undrafted I would absolutely sign him and give him a chance, but I'm not going to bet the #2 draft pick on him.

Dedhed
01-17-2011, 07:17 AM
I can make several, all of them sound.

I would start with a film of yesterday's Jets/Pats game.

Dedhed
01-17-2011, 07:19 AM
Here's a question for you...I know you like more picks but what if our draft looked like this:

#2- Patrick Peterson
#12- Stephen Paea
#22- Akeem Ayers

We could get there using Orton and the extra 2nd rounder to move up, plus we'd probably need to aquire a couple of mid-round picks, a 4th, perhaps a 3rd as well.

We'd have the smallest draft class but imagine the playmaking talent in those three guys. Peterson and Ayers are both playmakers and Paea is too. That would be three sure-fire starters on defense all with great ability. We still have a couple late picks for adding depth.
If we somehow managed to get Peterson and Paea I would be giddy. They're my two favorite targets for this draft.

Rohirrim
01-17-2011, 07:49 AM
Not a good start for Fairley.

Gcver2ver3
01-17-2011, 07:52 AM
its not about overreacting, its about evaluating what he's demonstrated thus far...and its certainly fair to say that he may bring some head case issue with him...and yes, his comment about not wanting to play in the cold should be a red flag...EVEN TO CAROLINA...

i still think this is moot (Khan i know you're there:wave:)...because i think he goes #1 overall...

get me Bowers...

Cito Pelon
01-17-2011, 07:58 AM
Funny....why would you even say that?

Because he's immature? Because he has that "sense of entitlement" as mentioned in the OP?

Some guys say, "I don't care where I go, I'll just be happy to be in the NFL, will do whatever I'm asked to do." And if they don't, yeah, I think that would raise a red flag. If you've ever hired anybody for any occupation, you know you do NOT want to hear them have reservations about the job.

Broncojef
01-17-2011, 08:03 AM
Ok, that's like every NFL team. Unless you are going to play in Florida, SoCo, or Texas it's going to get cold a some point. Even if you play in a Dome for a warm weather team, more then likely half of the road games are going to be cold.

It's not like he's some 115 pound weakling. Dude has some serious padding on his body..shouldn't even be affected by the cold. Comeon fat boy you can handle cold weather just fine.

Mediator12
01-17-2011, 08:15 AM
I would start with a film of yesterday's Jets/Pats game.

Why, because the DL was able to pressure Brady rushing three and covering with eight? That is a great case! Also, they were able to play the run with nickel personnel and stop it with 3 DL? Excellent case ROFL!

mikey555
01-17-2011, 08:19 AM
Blacks are tropical people. No surprise that Fairley prefers the climates that are similar to the jungles.

Wow you sir are a loser!!!!! gbye!!

razorwire77
01-17-2011, 08:23 AM
I think it's a moot point, because Carolina will take him, but joking or not, immature or not, kid is a walking red flag as far as I'm concerned. If we were a team like Baltimore with strong veteran leadership and were drafting him at 27 or something, I'd say yeah pull the trigger. But you're talking about one of the most important picks in the history of the franchise. A bust with a top 3 pick would be hugely detrimental to the rebuilding process. I say try to trade down to 5 or 6, acquire an additional 2nd rounder and take Patrick Peterson. Then use 2nd round A, B and C all on front seven players (guys like Cameron Heyward, Bailey, Pea, Houston from Georgia etc.) should be available in the top half of the 2nd round.

Wes Mantooth
01-17-2011, 08:29 AM
Didn't anyone tell him he's going to get paid more in the NFL than at Auburn no matter where he plays?

Steve Sewell
01-17-2011, 08:37 AM
Didn't anyone tell him he's going to get paid more in the NFL than at Auburn no matter where he plays?

Yeah no doubt. He's still on his rookie SEC contract. Granted he's getting paid more than he would at Ohio State or Michigan, but he needs to know he can be paid a lot more in the NFL!

Maybe he's looking for Cam Newton money?

Bigdawg26
01-17-2011, 08:37 AM
I'm becoming more in love with the idea of trading down 3 or 4 slots to acquire another 2nd round pick and also with trading Orton for a first or second round pick. And waiting to see who falls out of dareus or peterson. That would give us a chance to still pick up an elite talent and some other well needed pieces. It would be awesome to have 5 picks in the first two rounds!

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 08:38 AM
I think it's a moot point, because Carolina will take him, but joking or not, immature or not, kid is a walking red flag as far as I'm concerned. If we were a team like Baltimore with strong veteran leadership and were drafting him at 27 or something, I'd say yeah pull the trigger. But you're talking about one of the most important picks in the history of the franchise. A bust with a top 3 pick would be hugely detrimental to the rebuilding process. I say try to trade down to 5 or 6, acquire an additional 2nd rounder and take Patrick Peterson. Then use 2nd round A, B and C all on front seven players (guys like Cameron Heyward, Bailey, Pea, Houston from Georgia etc.) should be available in the top half of the 2nd round.
It's probable that none of those guys are there in the 2nd...maybe Bailey or Houston, but Paea and Heyward won't be there, or at least Paea won't be. If we trade down to 5 and can still take Peterson I'd be ecstatic but it would only work if we can trade back up to at least 15 or better I think. Paea is the guy I'd like most since he can anchor the middle.

Pony Boy
01-17-2011, 08:45 AM
Blacks are tropical people. No surprise that Fairley prefers the climates that are similar to the jungles.

I wish I could do more than neg rep.........

razorwire77
01-17-2011, 08:51 AM
It's probable that none of those guys are there in the 2nd...maybe Bailey or Houston, but Paea and Heyward won't be there, or at least Paea won't be. If we trade down to 5 and can still take Peterson I'd be ecstatic but it would only work if we can trade back up to at least 15 or better I think. Paea is the guy I'd like most since he can anchor the middle.

You're probably right on Heyward, but it really depends on how many playoff teams reach for skill position players (particularly RB's and WR's) in the bottom half of the first round. There are always 1st round projected DT's that drop to the top have of the 2nd. Draft Tek, which probably runs one of the better mocks I've seen has Bailey, Pea, Houston and Greg Jones all slipping into the top half of the 2nd round. I guess my point being that there is a lot of front seven 3-4 talent to be found in this draft.

Hulamau
01-17-2011, 08:59 AM
I mentioned this once before but I don't think anyone noticed. Go back to the national championship game if you recorded it, and watch the trophy presentation to Auburn. The MC is speaking and his coach is on the platform to accept the trophy. In the background of this huge gathering, you can clearly hear somebody making a ton of noise in spite of the fact literally everyone else is listening to the speaker. It's Fairley...he's whoopin' it up and doing his own thing in his own little world, pretty much completely oblivious I guess to the fact that he's disturbing everyone around him. You can see this uncomfortable look on his coaches face as he's trying to speak over Fairley without letting on he's aware of it. I'm not talkling about the guy talking quietly in the background. He's full bore completelyl ignoring the fact that something is going on right in front of him that people are trying to listen to. It was an interesting spectacle...not one that tells us he's a bad guy or something, but just that he's not the brightest or most aware person. I think you can see that very quickly when he's talking as well. He's a guy who is not as mature as he needs to be to be ready for the bright lights and the big stage of the NFL and the money that comes to these guys out of nowhere. Fairley is a risk pick, not for his talent but his intangibles, maturity being one of them.

Remember that scene well. Sure he is a kid whopping it up aftre winnignteh national championship, and no dobut was rightly excited, but he does come acorss as a 'me firster' and his reknowned dirty play likely wont translate well to the NFL as far as staying out of trouble goes.

Need to see and hear a lot more maturity out of this kid before dropping a 2nd pick on him.

Hulamau
01-17-2011, 09:04 AM
Blacks are tropical people. No surprise that Fairley prefers the climates that are similar to the jungles.

Sounds like the real 'David Duke' behind your moniker! :-\

Broncoman13
01-17-2011, 09:10 AM
This puts up some red flags for me. Meat head could have caused himself to slide down 5 or 10 spots. But I suspect we will see more and more of this with a rookie cap. Prospects will be able to say things like that, lose 10 slots in the draft and only miss out on a couple million dollars over 4 or 5 years. In the past Fairley would have been dropping lines like, I love the Mountains and Trout Fishing almost as much as I like NASCAR and Pro Wrestling!

Mediator12
01-17-2011, 09:24 AM
This puts up some red flags for me. Meat head could have caused himself to slide down 5 or 10 spots. But I suspect we will see more and more of this with a rookie cap. Prospects will be able to say things like that, lose 10 slots in the draft and only miss out on a couple million dollars over 4 or 5 years. In the past Fairley would have been dropping lines like, I love the Mountains and Trout Fishing almost as much as I like NASCAR and Pro Wrestling!

Fairley is a not PC yet. So what? Most of these kids do not mean what they say, they say it because they have been coached to say it. This is much ado about nothing unless he decides this is really true and not a joke. If it is, they will find out from the psych eval. Believe me, they will find out if its true or not before picking him.

I am sure the guys who scouted him are saying one of 2 things right now:

1. Yep, that's the idiot I scouted.

2. That is not the Kid I scouted, but thanks for making my case a lot harder to sell!

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 09:35 AM
It would be great to get Ayers and Paea but I dont think Ayers would be there at 22. Im not sure if you have 22 because you estimate thats where we can trade up to. But it seems unlikely we can get him at 22. It would be better to just trade down and get Ayers and Paea.
The problem with that is, we don't know who will be there once our pick comes up, and then you can wind up grabbing somebody else you're not that sold on. If you trade up on the other hand, you have a good chance of knowing who is there because you set up the trade ahead of time and make the trade if the guy you want is still there. We've wasted a lot of picks trading up and down lately. I'd be happy to trade up for the right players, but I want one of the guys at the very top as well.

Crushaholic
01-17-2011, 09:41 AM
I wish I could do more than neg rep.........

I'm pretty sure that was a joke, based on the screen name. If he was serious, he would be using harsher language...Ha!

Mediator12
01-17-2011, 09:46 AM
Go watch the video of his cold comment on the other thread. Much Ado about nothing.

Steve Sewell
01-17-2011, 10:32 AM
I agree that this whole thing is much ado about nothing.

I think Carolina will pick this kid anyway, and I think (if we stay at #2) we'll take Peterson and move Champ over to FS. I say this because Fox's roots are in secondary coaching, and he has to be drooling over a kid like Peterson, and secondly because like it or not, this is an area of need.

However, if I had to put money on it, I think if Fairley isn't available, we're trading back and stockpiling draft picks.

footstepsfrom#27
01-17-2011, 11:02 AM
I agree that this whole thing is much ado about nothing.

I think Carolina will pick this kid anyway, and I think (if we stay at #2) we'll take Peterson and move Champ over to FS. I say this because Fox's roots are in secondary coaching, and he has to be drooling over a kid like Peterson, and secondly because like it or not, this is an area of need.

However, if I had to put money on it, I think if Fairley isn't available, we're trading back and stockpiling draft picks.
I remember being caught off guard or surprised in most of the drafts of recent memory because guys either went higher or lower near the top of the draft than we thought. The combine isn't even here yet, so the speculation about him going first is very premature, though fun to talk about. Once they get all these guys in there and start over analyzing everything he might drop to #6 or later for all we know and the Missouri QB could jump up there. Maybe Newton does too...three months from now we could be talking about Stephen Paea going top five and Fairley sliding...there's just no telling.