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Smiling Assassin27
01-14-2011, 01:36 PM
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=7CF95448-00FA-8F08-0F68DBEA68EAF7C4

As the specter of a year without pro football looms, the National Football League Players Association is taking its case to the halls of Congress — mounting an aggressive lobbying and public relations campaign urging lawmakers to push the owners to strike a deal before the March 3 deadline...

Baltimore Ravens cornerback Domonique Foxworth said it’s important for lawmakers to meet the “people who get their hands dirty.” Foxworth, who is on injured reserve, said if there’s a lockout, he, his wife and newborn baby would lose their health insurance.

“The most important thing that can happen for us on Capitol Hill is just to level the playing field because, as we found out recently, the NFL has been lobbying on Capitol Hill for a number of years now,” he said. “It’s important that they see our faces too and they recognize that there’s another team playing in this game.”




Dude just signed a 4 year deal in 09 for $27million, with 16.5mil guaranteed and he wants us to cry for his health insurance?? Dude.

Gcver2ver3
01-14-2011, 01:38 PM
regardless of his method or intentions...

if this will help us have a CBA before draft time, i'm all for it...

Archer81
01-14-2011, 01:39 PM
Good God...


:Broncos:

schaaf
01-14-2011, 01:39 PM
i agree a lockout would hurt the NFL and this country in so many ways

OBF1
01-14-2011, 01:41 PM
"We make alot of money, because we spend alot of money" Only in America

Smiling Assassin27
01-14-2011, 01:42 PM
regardless of his method or intentions...

if this will help us have a CBA before draft time, i'm all for it...

C'mon man. Is Congress really there to referee a battle between millionaires and billionaires? I love NFL football as much as the next guy but after all the union's posturing and playing hardball, they decide to hide under Congress' skirt?

I guess Congress doesn't have more important things to do. :rofl:

Mile High Shack
01-14-2011, 01:46 PM
sorry NFL players and owners, people are still hurting, some haven't worked in awhile, you are going to have a hard time finding sympathy with millionaires fighting billionaires

if you miss an entire season, I won't cry, I can still watch college football

Hercules Rockefeller
01-14-2011, 01:47 PM
regardless of his method or intentions...

if this will help us have a CBA before draft time, i'm all for it...

No, Congress has better things to do.

OBF1
01-14-2011, 01:48 PM
College football and Lakers basketball :thumbs:

Hercules Rockefeller
01-14-2011, 01:48 PM
"We make alot of money, because we spend alot of money" Only in America

Do you know how much insurance is on a Ferrari?

SonOfLe-loLang
01-14-2011, 01:49 PM
C'mon man. Is Congress really there to referee a battle between millionaires and billionaires? I love NFL football as much as the next guy but after all the union's posturing and playing hardball, they decide to hide under Congress' skirt?

I guess Congress doesn't have more important things to do. :rofl:

Some could argue thats all congress does

Gcver2ver3
01-14-2011, 01:49 PM
C'mon man. Is Congress really there to referee a battle between millionaires and billionaires? I love NFL football as much as the next guy but after all the union's posturing and playing hardball, they decide to hide under Congress' skirt?

I guess Congress doesn't have more important things to do. :rofl:

you're absolutely right...

but selfishly, if it'll get a deal done before draft time, i'm for it...

i'm not saying i'm right for feeling that way...in fact i'll openly admit i'm wrong...

your point is more towards the greater good...you're completely justified in your point...

Gcver2ver3
01-14-2011, 01:50 PM
No, Congress has better things to do.

no argument here...

bronco militia
01-14-2011, 01:51 PM
what the heck......the party of "NO" should have plenty of free time

HILife
01-14-2011, 01:55 PM
Vote no on Proposition Lockout.

Killericon
01-14-2011, 01:55 PM
Good god baseball set a bad precedent.

bronclvr
01-14-2011, 02:00 PM
Riiiiiight.....let's spend some more Taxpayer money on an issue that Policticians have no understanding or knowledge of-let's tie this up in Congressional Hearings while people are out there looking for work, or trying to figure out where they are going to move now that they've lost their House, or worse yet, where their next Meal is coming from.

I can't believe these guys are for real. Players-get ready for a pay cut, take it like a Man and suck it up. Owners-give us more Beer, Women and great times at the Stadium and we will be happy............................................. ....................for a while.


These guys have forgotten who the Customer is-

Agamemnon
01-14-2011, 02:02 PM
C'mon man. Is Congress really there to referee a battle between millionaires and billionaires? I love NFL football as much as the next guy but after all the union's posturing and playing hardball, they decide to hide under Congress' skirt?

I guess Congress doesn't have more important things to do. :rofl:

This is getting into the whole politics thing that never goes anywhere good, but Congress very rarely does things that are "more important" than this. Unless "more important" means the constant passing of more and more laws that are unnecessary and waste the taxpayers' money. Or the constant failure to regulate or hold accountable the corporate entities that they waste the taxpayers' money bailing out.

I suppose if by "more important" you mean "more wasteful", then yes.

ColoradoDarin
01-14-2011, 02:05 PM
So Foxworth is mad that he's actually going to have to spend some of his money out of pocket to buy health insurance? How will he ever accomplish something like that with the tens of millions of dollars?? Poor guy....

And no congress doesn't need to get involved, the players and owners need to just sit and hammer something out until they have an agreement.

OBF1
01-14-2011, 02:10 PM
Do you know how much insurance is on a Ferrari?

If you have to ask, you can not afford one.

I know that a "Service" on a Lamborghini is over $20,000

Rohirrim
01-14-2011, 02:12 PM
Yeah, Dominique. Get Congress involved. That'll work. :oyvey:

Old Dude
01-14-2011, 02:13 PM
Oh, God. Here we go again.

epicSocialism4tw
01-14-2011, 02:15 PM
This is the last thing we need Congress to address.

That time is paid for by the taxpayer. The taxpayer already pays enough for their overpriced tickets and merchandise. Keep your butts out of The Peoples' House, NFLPA.

bendog
01-14-2011, 02:16 PM
Congress is not going near this. I mean Pelosi might, and burn down the capital while she was at it, but sane people now a no win albatros when they see it.

Now if owners make noise about consolidating teams or moving franchises .... that's another story.

peacepipe
01-14-2011, 02:17 PM
This is the last thing we need Congress to address.

That time is paid for by the taxpayer. The taxpayer already pays enough for their overpriced tickets and merchandise. Keep your butts out of The Peoples' House, NFLPA.

last I checked NFL players pay taxes as well.

gyldenlove
01-14-2011, 02:21 PM
C'mon man. Is Congress really there to referee a battle between millionaires and billionaires? I love NFL football as much as the next guy but after all the union's posturing and playing hardball, they decide to hide under Congress' skirt?

I guess Congress doesn't have more important things to do. :rofl:

I don't get all this NFLPA whining, I can see you want to push the issue if you feel there is antitrust violations taking place, but since that is not the case, stop bitching and get on with negotiations and playing.

I can't feel bad for people who on average make 7 digits a year for 6 months of work.

hades
01-14-2011, 02:22 PM
I love the NFL and Bronco's as much as the next guy here, but this is really getting absurd. I know it won't mean jack squat, but I am not giving the NFL any more of my money (other than watching games on TV, which helps the ratings... = more $$$), but no more merchandise. No shirts, jackets, etc.

Did ANY player take a pay cut because of the bad economy? Did ANY team fold because of the bad economy? I'm going on year 3 of no pay raises, we took a pay cut, our insurance costs went up. Luckily I did not loose my job, but the economy aint what it used to be!

BroncoLifer
01-14-2011, 02:32 PM
I recall that a backlash against the "poor us" attitude (as perceived by the fans) of some of the players hurt the union's PR during the 1987 strike. I thought Foxworth was smart enough to have learned from history, but maybe not......

Dr. Broncenstein
01-14-2011, 02:34 PM
Sunday ticket holders: don't forget to cancel your subscription now, before DTV starts billing in the summer.

Gcver2ver3
01-14-2011, 02:37 PM
Sunday ticket holders: don't forget to cancel your subscription now, before DTV starts billing in the summer.

if there's no football, we don't get a refund?...

hades
01-14-2011, 02:41 PM
if there's no football, we don't get a refund?...

Maybe, but I'm sure DirecTv will have "billing issues" when issuing refunds.

Dr. Broncenstein
01-14-2011, 02:47 PM
if there's no football, we don't get a refund?...

You already have to call customer service to deactivate the subscription. I can guarantee you they will make this as difficult as possible.

oubronco
01-14-2011, 02:50 PM
**** em let them go out in the real world and try to find jobs for a year

mustangtoby
01-14-2011, 02:52 PM
Almost makes you want to puke. I love football as much as the next guy, but jeez...
And I really don't want to believe there will be a lockout, the NFL stand to lose (read: not make) a WHOLE BUNCH of money if there's no football next season. I can't believe they won't push it through, although I did hear Peter King say on NFL radio that he thought there would be a lockout (of course we saw how smart he really is on the Tebow trade rumor last week!).

Gcver2ver3
01-14-2011, 02:52 PM
You already have to call customer service to deactivate the subscription. I can guarantee you they will make this as difficult as possible.

sounds good...thanks for the heads up...

peacepipe
01-14-2011, 02:53 PM
I don't get all this NFLPA whining, I can see you want to push the issue if you feel there is antitrust violations taking place, but since that is not the case, stop b****ing and get on with negotiations and playing.

I can't feel bad for people who on average make 7 digits a year for 6 months of work.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5214509

Had the NFL won this case, it may have been able to -- as one business entity -- implement salaries for its players and its coaches instead of having the current system of individual players bargaining for deals. The biggest thing that came from this ruling on Monday is it could kick-start labor extension talks and prevent a lockout in 2011.

gunns
01-14-2011, 02:54 PM
but sane people now a no win albatros when they see it.



Then that means Congress will probably get involved.

peacepipe
01-14-2011, 03:00 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81a70089/article/nflpa-seeking-signatures-for-possible-decertification


The NFL Players Asscoiation began collecting signatures for possible decertification in March, league sources said Saturday.

Decertification is one tact the players' union could take this spring to negate a potential lockout and begin a process through the court system toward a possible resolution of the labor impasse with NFL owners.

The collective bargaining agreement is scheduled to expire in March, and decertification could allow the NFLPA to sue the league in an attempt to prevent owners from locking players out of offseason activities.

If the NFLPA decertifies, it would, in effect, cease to become a union. If the league then attempted to lockout the players, they could sue the NFL under U.S. antitrust laws. However, the NFL also could challenge that decertification.

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The process will continue as union head DeMaurice Smith meets with each team during the season.

"This is a procedural thing only," is how one NFLPA official put it. "It's easier to collect 1,900 signatures now than in March."

If the NFLPA is successful in an effort to decertify, then the collective bargaining process would end, and individual players could seek antitrust lawsuits. This is similar to action the union took in past labor negotiations that resulted in the Reggie White lawsuit and a system of free agency beginning in 1993. As that case unfolded from 1989 to 1993, the games continued.

By decertifying, the union also could challenge the NFL should it try to implement a new labor system.

Garcia Bronco
01-14-2011, 03:02 PM
There is nothing the players can say that won't make them look like assholes

Garcia Bronco
01-14-2011, 03:04 PM
i agree a lockout would hurt the NFL and this country in so many ways

No it wouldn't

Agamemnon
01-14-2011, 03:07 PM
There is nothing the players can say that won't make them look like a-holes

The same can be said for the owners. They're all looking like douchebags to me...

Dr. Broncenstein
01-14-2011, 03:08 PM
sounds good...thanks for the heads up...

You can always change programming online. For some reason my online account says "you must call customer service" when trying to cancel my automatically renewing sunday ticket subscription. When they are already doing these shenanigans, you can bet DTV is digging in for a lockout.... and hoping to make some money out of this season when the auto-billing process that starts in July.

FireFly
01-14-2011, 04:07 PM
**** em let them go out in the real world and try to find jobs for a year

Will the players that have contracts atm still get paid next year even if there are no games?

SimonFletcher73
01-14-2011, 05:12 PM
What about the people who will really suffer here? The people that make crap wages working in the stadium or for the actual team. They don't have cash and they probably don't have health insurance to begin with.

Garcia Bronco
01-14-2011, 05:44 PM
What about the people who will really suffer here? The people that make crap wages working in the stadium or for the actual team. They don't have cash and they probably don't have health insurance to begin with.

that's their problem. Get a different job or get a skill set.

Broncos_OTM
01-14-2011, 07:18 PM
If the players get locked out and run out of money they can only blame themselves especially since they have been told for well over a year now to save their money. **** they could have kept it in the bank got god interest out of it and paid for their insurance with the money from the interest. Americans as a whole have had to set aside their toys in this economic turmoil. I have no sympathy towards the players.

Jetmeck
01-14-2011, 07:58 PM
The players need a pay cut and ticket prices need to drop. But Congress is the perfect place for this to be worked out. Another way our worthless representatives can put important common sense issues on the back burner again and deal with football instead................perfect for the politicians.

We are trying to take away the health care for Americans but hey I saved football for ya....lol Vote for me again you freakin idiots...............

Jetmeck
01-14-2011, 08:00 PM
that's their problem. Get a different job or get a skill set.

You have officially became the biggest a-hole on this site !

Archer81
01-14-2011, 08:02 PM
What about the people who will really suffer here? The people that make crap wages working in the stadium or for the actual team. They don't have cash and they probably don't have health insurance to begin with.


I'm sure they rely on part time work only to get by...


:Broncos:

ghwk
01-14-2011, 08:05 PM
If you have to ask, you can not afford one.

I know that a "Service" on a Lamborghini is over $20,000

Which is EXACTLY why mine is rusting away in the driveway.

Garcia Bronco
01-14-2011, 08:07 PM
You have officially became the biggest a-hole on this site !

Get a job with subsidized healthcare if it means that much to you, but don't cry that you can't get it.

Garcia Bronco
01-14-2011, 08:08 PM
I'm sure they rely on part time work only to get by...


:Broncos:

Well that's the other thing; It's an extra money job.

Archer81
01-14-2011, 08:12 PM
Well that's the other thing; It's an extra money job.


Usually. Like the refs. They are not full time referees. Most of them are lawyers or another profession that steals souls.


:Broncos:

peacepipe
01-15-2011, 09:02 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/15/assistant-coaches-will-discuss-unionizing/

The NFL Players’ Association isn’t the only union owners could soon find themselves dealing with.

On The NFL Today, Charley Casserly reported that all of the coaches from around the league will meet at the scouting combine in Indianapolis to take a straw poll to gauge interest in forming a coaches’ union.

The idea for coaches to unionize has been discussed before. A source told PFT in 2009 that the NFL was running the risk of motivating the coaches to form a union by allowing teams to pull out of the league-run pension plan. Casserly said that the unionizing discussion at the combine would focus only on assistant coaches. Head coaches wouldn’t be part of the proposed union and coordinators might not be either.