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strafen
01-13-2011, 09:10 PM
I wonder how this may affect the draft...

MONTGOMERY, Ala. -- Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton will skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft after leading Auburn to a national championship and drawing nearly as much attention for a pay-for-play scandal as for his dynamic performances.

Auburn released a statement Thursday night announcing the quarterback's decision following his lone year as a major college starter. Newton led the Tigers to their first national title since 1957 and a 14-0 season with a 22-19 victory over Oregon on Monday night.



"This decision was difficult for me and my family," Newton said, adding that he made it after talking to coach Gene Chizik and offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn.

"It's been a blessing for me to be a part of something so great," he said. "Any time you win games it's a big deal, but for this school to win a BCS national championship, what a way to make people happy. Auburn is a special place that I can call home."

The former backup to Tim Tebow at Florida arrived after leading Blinn College in Texas to a junior college national championship and won on a much bigger stage with the Tigers.

The national champions are waiting on Lombardi Award-winning defensive tackle Nick Fairley to announce his NFL decision on Friday in his hometown of Mobile. Fairley might be the No. 1 overall pick, but the 6-foot-6, 250-pound Newton is the guy that Chizik called "probably the best football player I've ever seen" after the Southeastern Conference championship game.

"We appreciate Cameron's many contributions to Auburn and the outstanding leader that he was for our football team," Chizik said. "He had one of the greatest individual seasons ever by an Auburn player and was a key part of our championship run. Cam will always be a member of the Auburn family and we wish him the best in his future endeavors."

The College Park, Ga., native was chosen the Walter Camp and Associated Press National Player of the Year. Newton also won the Maxwell Award as the nation's top player and the Davey O'Brien Award as the best quarterback.

The dual-threat quarterback brought joy to Auburn, but some troubles also came along with him. He played under a cloud the last two months of the season after reports surfaced that his father, Cecil, shopped his services during Mississippi State's recruitment of his son.

All that came of it so far is that Auburn declared Newton ineligible the week of the SEC championship game against South Carolina and the NCAA reinstated him a day later. The NCAA said it hasn't closed the case but that it had no evidence at the time that Cam Newton knew about his father's solicitation.

The case may prompt a new addition -- call it "Newton's Law" -- in the NCAA rule book.

It was prominent and polarizing enough that NCAA president Mark Emmert, speaking at the governing body's annual convention Thursday, called for new rules ensuring that parents can't "sell the athletic services" of their children.

"If you look at the Newton case, a lot of people came away from that, because it's a complicated case, saying, 'Gosh, it's OK for a father to solicit money for the services for his son or daughter?' " Emmert told reporters afterward. "The answer to that is no, it isn't. But we don't have a rule that makes that clear."

On the field, Newton rushed for 1,473 yards and 20 touchdowns while passing for 2,854 yards and 30 TDs. He set Auburn season records for both rushing and passing TDs and total offense and an SEC mark for yards on the ground by a quarterback.

Newton injured his back during the national title game but still passed for 265 yards and two touchdowns and ran for another 64.

He was good enough to prompt South Carolina coach and 1966 Heisman winner Steve Spurrier to marvel: "You can't tackle him. He's almost a one-man show."


Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6019964

Taco John
01-13-2011, 09:11 PM
With the number two pick, the Denver Broncos select Nick Fairley

strafen
01-13-2011, 09:12 PM
With the number two pick, the Denver Broncos select Nick Fairley

The best defensive player may land right on our laps... ;D

frerottenextelway
01-13-2011, 09:13 PM
With the number two pick, the Denver Broncos ***trade***

Maybe?....

strafen
01-13-2011, 09:14 PM
Maybe?....Nah, McDaniels is gone! :rofl:

KevinJames
01-13-2011, 09:14 PM
doesn't matter hes the 4th best QB in the draft anyway :thumbs: won't be a top 10 pick

Inkana7
01-13-2011, 09:17 PM
doesn't matter hes the 4th best QB in the draft anyway :thumbs: won't be a top 10 pick

People said the same thing about Vince Young.

~Crash~
01-13-2011, 09:18 PM
doesn't matter hes the 4th best QB in the draft anyway :thumbs: won't be a top 10 pick

Tebow was slated for what round ?:P

strafen
01-13-2011, 09:19 PM
doesn't matter hes the 4th best QB in the draft anyway :thumbs: won't be a top 10 pickI'm pretty sure he disagrees...
I think he wants to cash in when his stock is at its highest.
Not sure would would pick him high in the draft, though...

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 09:23 PM
I'm pretty sure he disagrees...
I think he wants to cash in when his stock is at its highest.
Not sure would would pick him high in the draft, though...

Only need a couple teams to get enamored with his athleticism and size, and then who knows where he might go? Newton's a wildcard in this draft.

Hogan11
01-13-2011, 09:26 PM
With the number two pick, the Denver Broncos select Cam Newton

Fixed......for effect ;D

strafen
01-13-2011, 09:27 PM
Only need a couple teams to get enamored with his athleticism and size, and then who knows where he might go? Newton's a wildcard in this draft.Yeah, let the hype begin... ;D

Taco John
01-13-2011, 09:28 PM
The best defensive player may land right on our laps... ;D

Nah, but I'll try to find any angle I can to get Fairley in our laps and away from Carolina. Cam didn't have a great game on the national stage. That's going to hurt his stock.

Hogan11
01-13-2011, 09:29 PM
Only need a couple teams to get enamored with his athleticism and size, and then who knows where he might go? Newton's a wildcard in this draft.

Buffalo will take him

Gcver2ver3
01-13-2011, 09:30 PM
Difficult decision for him and his family?....lol...yeah sure...

Missouribronc
01-13-2011, 09:30 PM
I'm pretty sure he disagrees...
I think he wants to cash in when his stock is at its highest.
Not sure would would pick him high in the draft, though...

Newton know if he hangs around, they will declare him ineligible.

Kaylore
01-13-2011, 09:32 PM
People said the same thing about Vince Young.

And they were right. ;D

Hamrob
01-13-2011, 09:35 PM
Everyone and their Grandma knew that Newton was coming out. Every Mock Draft has him going somwhere between 10-15 of the 1st round right now.

I do think...that once this kid puts on the shorts and start rifling that ball all over the field in individual workouts and the combine...teams are going to go...wow!

He'll most likely be a top 10 pick. I'm not sure that he'll go before Gabbert...but, he just might.

Gabbert
Mallett
Newton
Locker

Both Newton and Locker could leap-frog Mallett and Gabbert after they show off their atheletism.

strafen
01-13-2011, 09:37 PM
Difficult decision for him and his family?....lol...yeah sure...No kiddin'
Feel sorry for the kid. Ha!

Taco John
01-13-2011, 09:38 PM
Fixed......for effect ;D


Broncos fans on Elway's lawn after that announcement:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05/31/article-1023318-017076B500000578-578_468x286.jpg

jerad_geiger10
01-13-2011, 09:39 PM
he is by absolutely no means the best quarterback in the draft. it's pretty much accepted that the heisman winner won't go number 1, and usually that's the smart move.

Bigdawg26
01-13-2011, 09:40 PM
I'll pass on the black Tim Tebow. I want Farley!

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 09:48 PM
he is by absolutely no means the best quarterback in the draft. it's pretty much accepted that the heisman winner won't go number 1, and usually that's the smart move.

Carson Palmer disagrees...

strafen
01-13-2011, 09:49 PM
Broncos fans on Elway's lawn after that announcement:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05/31/article-1023318-017076B500000578-578_468x286.jpgCam Newton can rest assured he won't be coming to Denver! :thumbsup:

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 09:52 PM
Cam Newton can rest assured he won't be coming to Denver! :thumbsup:

If he does, he'd better hope Tebow gets traded. Otherwise it's going to be like being at Florida all over again. He'll be sad... ;D

epicSocialism4tw
01-13-2011, 09:55 PM
Straight cash, homie.

schaaf
01-13-2011, 09:56 PM
Lets just cross our fingers that Newton or Gabbert shoot up the draft boards to number one overall and then leave Fairley sitting in our laps.

schaaf
01-13-2011, 09:58 PM
you guys better put away your laptops if its like florida all over again

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 10:09 PM
Lets just cross our fingers that Newton or Gabbert shoot up the draft boards to number one overall and then leave Fairley sitting in our laps.

The team with the 32nd rated offense and decent interior line depth isn't going to draft a DT at #1. That'd be like us drafting AJ Green. It just doesn't make any sense.

lostknight
01-13-2011, 10:16 PM
So basically, we have a Tebow without the intangible leadership skills, without the consistent performance over multiple years, and with enough ethical questions to give Mike Shanahan pause. Might as well call him Maurice Clarett.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 10:18 PM
So basically, we have a Tebow without the intangible leadership skills, without the consistent performance over multiple years, and with enough ethical questions to give Mike Shanahan pause. Might as well call him Maurice Clarett.

And the dude is likely going to go much higher than Tebow. It's a strange world we live in...

lostknight
01-13-2011, 10:21 PM
And the dude is likely going to go much higher than Tebow. It's a strange world we live in...

I doubt it. Everyone in the NFL can watch him go out, and start a down. Get in position, then have to look over to the left or right to their bench, while the defense is read by the coaches.

Every single imaginary drawback to Tebow is real with this kid. The bust potential is off the scales.

razorwire77
01-13-2011, 10:23 PM
Lets just cross our fingers that Newton or Gabbert shoot up the draft boards to number one overall and then leave Fairley sitting in our laps.

This.

The best possible thing for us that could happen is that Cam runs a 4.5 40, interviews well, elects to throw at the combine and absolutely crushes it like Cutler did in 06. He shoots up the draft boards of several of the QB need teams Buffalo, Arizona, San Francisco, Minnesota and Tennessee, and one of them gets nervous, and trades with us to take him at 2.

schaaf
01-13-2011, 10:24 PM
I would not be surprised at all if Carolina selected another quarterback in the draft.

Vegas_Bronco
01-13-2011, 10:40 PM
I bet Jeff Fisher passes on this guy.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 10:49 PM
I bet Jeff Fisher passes on this guy.

It'd be funny if ownership forced Cam Newton on him anyway. He might go postal...

MacGruder
01-13-2011, 10:53 PM
Every single imaginary drawback to Tebow is real with this kid. The bust potential is off the scales.

This was exactly my take too.. all the negative things people said about Tebow all through college are actually true about Cam and they weren't true about Tebow.. it's unbelievable.

theAPAOps5
01-13-2011, 10:54 PM
Difficult decision for him and his family?....lol...yeah sure...

HA that is the first thing I thought.

Pick Six
01-13-2011, 10:58 PM
We need to be thankful that Gruden wasn't hired. He likes quarterbacks...

NUB
01-13-2011, 11:25 PM
The team with the 32nd rated offense and decent interior line depth isn't going to draft a DT at #1. That'd be like us drafting AJ Green. It just doesn't make any sense.

Fairley and Peterson make the most sense for the Panthers since Luck isn't coming out. The only other player worth taking at #1 is A.J. Green, and the only way that happens is if they deal Steve Smith on draft day. Of course it's always possible for a QB to catch way too much momentum heading into the draft if the Panthers really think Clausen sucks that bad.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 11:35 PM
Fairley and Peterson make the most sense for the Panthers since Luck isn't coming out. The only other player worth taking at #1 is A.J. Green, and the only way that happens is if they deal Steve Smith on draft day. Of course it's always possible for a QB to catch way too much momentum heading into the draft if the Panthers really think Clausen sucks that bad.

Steve Smith doesn't appear to be an elite receiver anymore honestly. He's also approaching the end of his career. And besides, even if he regains his old form that team needs more than one receiving threat. They seriously have one of the worst receiving corps in all football right now. Their DBs and DTs are much, much better overall.

Again, 32nd ranked offense vs 18th ranked defense (tied for 6th in YPP). To go defense with an elite receiver available makes absolutely no sense.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 11:37 PM
We need to be thankful that Gruden wasn't hired. He likes quarterbacks...

He likes Tebow...

StugotsIII
01-13-2011, 11:43 PM
Newton is another physical freak, however he is short on what Tebow has and that is character.

Newton has NONE.

Denver may very well trade out of the spot because there really isn't a massive deference maker on defense, like a Suh...

Fairly is damn good, but he is also a bad character guy. Please see all of his late/dirty hits.

Lestat
01-13-2011, 11:58 PM
this is awesome news for our pick. hopefully some team falls in love with him and trades up to the #2 and we can trade down in Fairley or Bowers are gone.

Agamemnon
01-14-2011, 12:05 AM
Newton is another physical freak, however he is short on what Tebow has and that is character.

Newton has NONE.

Denver may very well trade out of the spot because there really isn't a massive deference maker on defense, like a Suh...

Fairly is damn good, but he is also a bad character guy. Please see all of his late/dirty hits.

Once again, late/dirty hits do not necessarily equal bad character.

misturanderson
01-14-2011, 12:12 AM
Every single imaginary drawback to Tebow is real with this kid.

That isn't even remotely true. All of the real drawbacks to Newton are things that people knew weren't true of Tebow outside of reading defenses. I.E., being an unethical moron who is motivated by money more than passion for the game.

All of the "imaginary" drawbacks to Tebow have to do with his throwing motion and delivery (nobody really believes that coming from a spread offense hurts a QB's potential now that half of college football runs some version of it), things that aren't questionable with Newton.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

StugotsIII
01-14-2011, 12:16 AM
Once again, late/dirty hits do not necessarily equal bad character.

When you are deliberately trying to injury people and getting flagged for it over and over there is a problem.

He has repeatedly tried and succeeded in knocking out and injuring opposing key players over and over.

This is not a guess.

Either way, he is not better than Bowers.

Agamemnon
01-14-2011, 12:44 AM
That isn't even remotely true. All of the real drawbacks to Newton are things that people knew weren't true of Tebow outside of reading defenses. I.E., being an unethical moron who is motivated by money more than passion for the game.

All of the "imaginary" drawbacks to Tebow have to do with his throwing motion and delivery (nobody really believes that coming from a spread offense hurts a QB's potential now that half of college football runs some version of it), things that aren't questionable with Newton.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

Newton's throwing motion is better (if you buy into this throwing motion crap). His footwork isn't. He has terrible footwork. He also relied on his coaches to read defenses while Tebow made prereads himself. Newton has just as many marks against him as a QB, before you even consider character concerns and the lack of comparable intangibles. He's also a one year wonder.

Hogan11
01-14-2011, 12:54 AM
When you are deliberately trying to injury people and getting flagged for it over and over there is a problem.

He has repeatedly tried and succeeded in knocking out and injuring opposing key players over and over.

This is not a guess.

How right you are....just ask the Man in my avatar about that.

Fairley is nothing but a cheap shotting slimeball.

footstepsfrom#27
01-14-2011, 12:56 AM
So basically, we have a Tebow without the intangible leadership skills, without the consistent performance over multiple years, and with enough ethical questions to give Mike Shanahan pause. Might as well call him Maurice Clarett.
You're kidding right? You're comparing a kid who the NCAA cleared of any wrong doing related to something his father was alleged to have done, possibly by jealous coaches within the SEC, with a guy who went to prison for armed robbery and had a long and extensive history of horrible decisions?

Wow.

ton80
01-14-2011, 02:09 AM
Newton sucks. If he stays in school, he might, perhaps, maybe, will be a solid backup in a gimmick offense.

His performance in the Nat'l Championship game was pathetic for a top draft pick.

I will say though that I hope Carolina is stupid enough to draft him.

Drek
01-14-2011, 05:55 AM
I doubt it. Everyone in the NFL can watch him go out, and start a down. Get in position, then have to look over to the left or right to their bench, while the defense is read by the coaches.

Every single imaginary drawback to Tebow is real with this kid. The bust potential is off the scales.

Except that while guys like Todd McShay and Mel Kiper ranted about how Tebow could never play NFL QB they're now saying that Newton has "rare athletic talent" and "could be a great QB in the NFL given a few years".

Just wait. The draft media will hype Newton up non-stop and he'll end up going in the top 15 to some QB needy team where he'll be an epic bust.

HILife
01-14-2011, 06:04 AM
Broncos fans on Elway's lawn after that announcement:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05/31/article-1023318-017076B500000578-578_468x286.jpg

Elway lives at the Airport?

misturanderson
01-14-2011, 09:22 AM
Newton's throwing motion is better (if you buy into this throwing motion crap). His footwork isn't. He has terrible footwork. He also relied on his coaches to read defenses while Tebow made prereads himself. Newton has just as many marks against him as a QB, before you even consider character concerns and the lack of comparable intangibles. He's also a one year wonder.

I didn't disagree that Newton has as many question marks, just disagree with the idiotic notion that his "real" question marks are the same as Tebow's "imaginary" ones.

That being said, I don't understand why he is considered a better prospect than Tebow. The only way I could see it is if people think he could be what Vince Young could have been had he not been off his rocker. I think Newton will bust out when he doesn't feel the need to try very hard to improve since he'll get paid right away, when he isn't as able to outrun everyone in the NFL as he did in college and when he can't figure out timing patterns or how to throw to a receiver that isn't wide open.

doonwise
01-14-2011, 11:36 AM
Though he seems to be a good character individual, this guy has bust written all over him (if taken in the mid to high first round).

misturanderson
01-14-2011, 11:45 AM
Though he seems to be a good character individual, this guy has bust written all over him (if taken in the mid to high first round).

In what sense is he a good character individual? The part where he "left" Florida after stealing a classmate's paper and turning it in with his name on it, then when he got caught, buying a paper off of the internet to turn in? Or is it the part about "his dad" demanding money from universities for the rights to sign him? Maybe when he "bought" a brand new laptop for $5?

His character questions are probably his biggest concerns coming out, which is saying a lot of a guy with a ton of fundamental deficiencies.