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Inkana7
01-13-2011, 12:46 PM
Per Elway tweet

Requiem
01-13-2011, 12:47 PM
http://twitter.com/johnelway

IB4TMERGE.

FOX YOU INKNANA!!!

Kaylore
01-13-2011, 12:47 PM
I can dig.

Inkana7
01-13-2011, 12:48 PM
http://twitter.com/johnelway

IB4TMERGE.

FOX YOU INKNANA!!!

You've been out-foxed

Requiem
01-13-2011, 12:48 PM
Go fox yourself!

2KBack
01-13-2011, 12:49 PM
I'm okay with Fox...I'd still like to get Koetter on the staff somehow, I think he would be great with Tebow.

Inkana7
01-13-2011, 12:49 PM
I'd like to take this opportunity to say, **** you, Rick Dennison

Man-Goblin
01-13-2011, 12:49 PM
Awesome. While I would have prefered Harbaugh, Fox is the guy I wanted after he wasn't available.

Color me excited. He has had success in the past and I can tell you from living in Charlotte that he will be well liked and noticable in the Denver community.

bendog
01-13-2011, 12:49 PM
I'm good. No newbies unless it was Dennison. I'm not sure he's that good a coach, but he's a real NFL coach.

Zoobie
01-13-2011, 12:50 PM
I don't know how I feel about this.

TD30
01-13-2011, 12:50 PM
nice now we can be 2-14 in 10 years

Kaylore
01-13-2011, 12:50 PM
I'd like to take this opportunity to say, **** you, Rick Dennison

Sorry, Shanahanites. You'll have to re-live 1998 through friends re-runs and your copy of Madden '99.

bendog
01-13-2011, 12:50 PM
I'd like to take this opportunity to say, **** you, Rick Dennison

why? Guy represented Den well. He shoulda gotten the job in 08. I'm happy with the hire. I'd say **** you tiny, but he earned it.

razorwire77
01-13-2011, 12:50 PM
Nice. Definitely the best of the remaining choices. Hopefully, he can fix up our pitiful defense. It'll be interesting to see if McCoy is retained.

Dr. Broncenstein
01-13-2011, 12:50 PM
Cool with me.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 12:51 PM
That's a relief. I was terrified it would be Dennison.

Now, the big question: 3-4 or 4-3?

srphoenix
01-13-2011, 12:52 PM
Glad they went with Fox, great move by the front office, excited to see what hes going to be able to do with our defense, our run game, and Tebow's development. I think we got the right guy!

Killericon
01-13-2011, 12:53 PM
I am pleased. Now, what to do with Dumervil?

RaiderH8r
01-13-2011, 12:53 PM
Now we need to find an OC that has a play action bootleg in his playbook...for starters.

BroncosMT
01-13-2011, 12:53 PM
So does that mean McCoy stays?

Popcorn Sutton
01-13-2011, 12:54 PM
My choice out of the "Fab 5"

Dr. Broncenstein
01-13-2011, 12:54 PM
I am pleased. Now, what to do with Dumervil?

Tell him to sack the quarterback.

Rohirrim
01-13-2011, 12:55 PM
I'm not excited, but I feel like this is a smart choice. Right now we need that experienced hand.

titan
01-13-2011, 12:56 PM
Whew!!! Dodged the "Rico" bullet once again. Fox was my favorite candidate and really a decent hire considering his background. Now let's see who he picks for his coordinators.

~Crash~
01-13-2011, 12:56 PM
I am glad its over I am tired of silly Assed people acting like they were in meeting's and knew what each of these guys said, and what they had to offered . to the people that set in here and act like they know ever last detail each coach had to offer are talking out there ass

Pony Boy
01-13-2011, 12:56 PM
How do they do this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fox_(American_football)

RaiderH8r
01-13-2011, 12:56 PM
So does that mean McCoy stays?

God I hope not.

maven
01-13-2011, 12:56 PM
I don't know how I feel about this.

I'm in the same boat.

Gcver2ver3
01-13-2011, 12:56 PM
i'm half happy about Fox...

and half happy that this ordeal is over and we can move forward now...

half + half = 100% happiness...

yay me...

titan
01-13-2011, 12:56 PM
AdamSchefter 1:48pm via Web
John Fox has been trying to round up his assistant coaches all morning. Deal with Denver had been in works all day.

Rohirrim
01-13-2011, 12:57 PM
Wiki impresses me:

John Fox (born February 8, 1955) is a American football head coach, currently with the Denver Broncos.

bendog
01-13-2011, 12:57 PM
I'm not excited, but I feel like this is a smart choice. Right now we need that experienced hand.

me too. I'm not in favor of moving back to the 4-3 with Ayers. It was tough enough to stop the run with Doom and a not very good Will behind him. But he's a decent, if not spectacularly innovative, HC

He'll help on draft day with Elway and Xanadu's inexperience

ghostofjosh
01-13-2011, 12:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv8K3j-rP_c

OBF1
01-13-2011, 12:57 PM
I am onboard

Pony Boy
01-13-2011, 12:58 PM
I hope he treats us "Fairley"

EzBronco715
01-13-2011, 12:58 PM
Wow seems a bit sudden but out of the interviewed candidates he was my favorite. Not sure if im in 100 percent agreement with the higher but I will definitley be supporting him.

crowebomber
01-13-2011, 12:58 PM
I'm cool with this. I think choosing the coordinators will be just as important right now.

DrFate
01-13-2011, 12:58 PM
Good luck to Coach Fox and the Broncos

bfoflcommish
01-13-2011, 12:58 PM
ugh...........

srphoenix
01-13-2011, 12:58 PM
They definitely picked the right guy out of the ones available. Anyone find it funny and is this the first time in nfl history where the coach from the worst team in the league has gone on to coach the 2nd worst team in the league in one offseason?

Quoydogs
01-13-2011, 12:59 PM
In 2002 Fox was signed as the third head coach of the Panthers, whose previous coach George Seifert had led the team to a disastrous 1-15 record in 2001. Fox's first regular season game was a 10-7 victory over the Baltimore Ravens which ended the Panthers' 15-game losing streak dating to the previous season. Fox and the Panthers posted a 7-9 record for the 2002 season (his first with the team), demonstrating a drastic improvement over the previous season.

In the 2003 season Fox led the Panthers to Super Bowl XXXVIII, losing 32-29 to the New England Patriots on a last-minute field goal by Adam Vinatieri. In taking the Panthers to the Super Bowl, Fox joined Vince Lombardi as the only coaches to inherit a team that had won only one game in the season immediately prior to their hiring, and then took that team to the NFL Championship game. Fox also took the Carolina Panthers to the NFC Championship game in the 2005 season, but they were defeated by the Seattle Seahawks.

The 2006 season was disappointing for Fox and the Panthers, as a team that had Super Bowl aspirations finished 8-8 and out of the playoffs.

The 2007 season saw the team finish with a record of 7-9, before finishing with a 12-4 record in the 2008 season, again heading to the playoffs in which they were routed by the Arizona Cardinals.

The 2009 season was disappointing to Fox and the Panthers much like 2006. The Panthers finished the season 8-8 and in third place in the NFC South division, missing the playoffs again.

The 2010 season saw the Panthers finish last in the league, at 2-14.

On December 31st, 2010 Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson announced he will not be renewing Fox's contract at the conclusion of the 2010 season.

On January 13, 2011, Broncos executive John Elway announced via Twitter that John Fox has been selected as the new coach of the Denver Broncos.




So I like the fact that he is a defensive minded coach but his track record does not look all that great. I guess we will see but I have to admit hiring a coach with 2 wins last year concerns me a bit.

Gcver2ver3
01-13-2011, 12:59 PM
so does this mean we're going to back to 4-3 for sure?...

OABB
01-13-2011, 12:59 PM
Does this mean we will actually draft defense?

OBF1
01-13-2011, 12:59 PM
PS: He is my new adpot a bronco

DrFate
01-13-2011, 12:59 PM
Anyone find it funny and is this the first time in nfl history where the coach from the worst team in the league has gone on to coach the 2nd worst team in the league in one offseason?

Looks like a step up for Fox!

:)

Dedhed
01-13-2011, 01:00 PM
I can dig it. Certainly a safe bet that will bring stability after a tumultuous few years.

How about Koetter and Fewell as assistant HCs in charge of offense and defense respectively?

Gcver2ver3
01-13-2011, 01:00 PM
In 2002 Fox was signed as the third head coach of the Panthers, whose previous coach George Seifert had led the team to a disastrous 1-15 record in 2001. Fox's first regular season game was a 10-7 victory over the Baltimore Ravens which ended the Panthers' 15-game losing streak dating to the previous season. Fox and the Panthers posted a 7-9 record for the 2002 season (his first with the team), demonstrating a drastic improvement over the previous season.

In the 2003 season Fox led the Panthers to Super Bowl XXXVIII, losing 32-29 to the New England Patriots on a last-minute field goal by Adam Vinatieri. In taking the Panthers to the Super Bowl, Fox joined Vince Lombardi as the only coaches to inherit a team that had won only one game in the season immediately prior to their hiring, and then took that team to the NFL Championship game. Fox also took the Carolina Panthers to the NFC Championship game in the 2005 season, but they were defeated by the Seattle Seahawks.

The 2006 season was disappointing for Fox and the Panthers, as a team that had Super Bowl aspirations finished 8-8 and out of the playoffs.

The 2007 season saw the team finish with a record of 7-9, before finishing with a 12-4 record in the 2008 season, again heading to the playoffs in which they were routed by the Arizona Cardinals.

The 2009 season was disappointing to Fox and the Panthers much like 2006. The Panthers finished the season 8-8 and in third place in the NFC South division, missing the playoffs again.

The 2010 season saw the Panthers finish last in the league, at 2-14.

On December 31st, 2010 Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson announced he will not be renewing Fox's contract at the conclusion of the 2010 season.

On January 13, 2011, Broncos executive John Elway announced via Twitter that John Fox has been selected as the new coach of the Denver Broncos.




So I like the fact that he is a defensive minded coach but his track record does not look all that great. I guess we will see but I have to admit hiring a coach with 2 wins last year concerns me a bit.

why is 04 skipped?...

Requiem
01-13-2011, 01:00 PM
John Fox quote:

"I am pleased to be working side-by-side with (GM) Brian Xanders through the draft process. He takes orders as good as anybody I know. The pizza and cola always is good with Brian around."

John Fox on working with Elway:

"We are both named John, so I mean, you take it from there."

On his efforts to impress The Broncos Brass:

"I brought the finest bottles of alcohol in town. This is a "who and what you know situation" and I know these guys love to get their drink on."

Zoobie
01-13-2011, 01:01 PM
I'm not upset about it, i'm just indifferent. I want to see him succeed, and i'll be rooting for him, hopefully he cans mccoy.

yerner
01-13-2011, 01:01 PM
Good, safe hire. I'm a little worried what this means for Doom. Still, Fox having the support of an owner like Bowlen should lead to some wins.

Ramathorn
01-13-2011, 01:02 PM
I don't know how I feel about this.

you should feel UBER EXCITED!! finally, a real coach in denver...thank god/tebow

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:02 PM
me too. I'm not in favor of moving back to the 4-3 with Ayers. It was tough enough to stop the run with Doom and a not very good Will behind him. But he's a decent, if not spectacularly innovative, HC

He'll help on draft day with Elway and Xanadu's inexperience

Ayers in a 4-3 is a marked improvement. The guy was built to play strongside DE.

~Crash~
01-13-2011, 01:03 PM
Sorry, Shanahanites. You'll have to re-live 1998 through friends re-runs and your copy of Madden '99.

yep you are so smart every person does just what you say right ?

FISH
01-13-2011, 01:03 PM
It was the orange tie that set him apart

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:03 PM
Bottom line:

Fox >>>>>>>>> McDaniels

Bigdawg26
01-13-2011, 01:03 PM
Big on big farley!!

Ramathorn
01-13-2011, 01:03 PM
nice now we can be 2-14 in 10 years

ur a ****in idiot...look at what he had...they lost everyone good except steve smith...get a grip on reality, homeslice

worm
01-13-2011, 01:03 PM
Like it out of the candidates discussed.

The pendulum has swung the other way......again. If this doesn't work we can go back to the young hotshot.

Give him the support and personnel homeruns he needs from the front office and I am excited to see what he can do.

Kaylore
01-13-2011, 01:03 PM
AdamSchefter 1:48pm via Web
John Fox has been trying to round up his assistant coaches all morning. Deal with Denver had been in works all day.

Great news. At least he's on his game.

Quoydogs
01-13-2011, 01:04 PM
So if we go 4-3 then is Doom our new LB ?? I kinda like that.

phibacka31
01-13-2011, 01:05 PM
I am very interested/excited to see who he adds to his staff. I'm hoping a LOT of new faces!

Bronco Boy
01-13-2011, 01:05 PM
nice now we can be 2-14 in 10 years

I'd be fine with that if we won a few super bowls in between.

Bigdawg26
01-13-2011, 01:05 PM
We would have a good front 4 if we do goto 4-3 with Bannan and Farley (hopefully) at DTand ayers and doom at DE

lostknight
01-13-2011, 01:06 PM
This is a safe hire, and we need to get back to crawling before we can run. I would like to know what the staff around him is going to look like. I am comfortable with keeping McCoy around - I like the E-P offense. But we need a major QB coach and a major DC candidate.

He's the anti-McDaniels. If he's 7-9 next year, I am a happy camper.

Chris
01-13-2011, 01:07 PM
I'm relieved.

Quoydogs
01-13-2011, 01:07 PM
We would have a good front 4 if we do goto 4-3 with Bannan and Farley (hopefully) at DTand ayers and doom at DE

Doom was OK in a 4-3 set but he shinned in the 3-4. I think Doom will be out newest LB. A damn good one at that.

Pony Boy
01-13-2011, 01:07 PM
God, I hope he doesn't try to trade Tebow for Clausen behind our backs...

titan
01-13-2011, 01:08 PM
Read the other day that Fox and Herm Edwards were teammates at San Diego State in the defensive backfield. Hmmmm.

Kaylore
01-13-2011, 01:08 PM
yep you are so smart every person does just what you say right ?

Oh, poor Crash had a hard time! WAAAHHHHHH

Hogan11
01-13-2011, 01:09 PM
Sorry, Shanahanites. You'll have to re-live 1998 through friends re-runs and your copy of Madden '99.

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Popps
01-13-2011, 01:09 PM
Great news, imo. He was the best option out there.

edog24
01-13-2011, 01:09 PM
This is a safe hire, and we need to get back to crawling before we can run. I would like to know what the staff around him is going to look like. I am comfortable with keeping McCoy around - I like the E-P offense. But we need a major QB coach and a major DC candidate.

Ug, no to Mccoy please.

bendog
01-13-2011, 01:09 PM
Like it out of the candidates discussed.

The pendulum has swung the other way......again. If this doesn't work we can go back to the young hotshot.

Give him the support and personnel homeruns he needs from the front office and I am excited to see what he can do.

I suspect Elway wanted his experience on board with him and Xanders. I'm not terribly excited, because this guy's offense is somewhere between Red Miller's view of NEVER taking a chance on your side of the 50yd line unless it's deep throw on first or second down that worst case will be about like a punt, and R66v6s' where the one unbreakable rule was a run on either first or second, or both, because you never want to be 3rd and 10 or worse. It may fit Tebow's abilities, but Den has just committed to being a defensive team, and we havn't been one since R66v6s got hired. They obviously could have done worse, because they did just that two years ago.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:09 PM
Doom was OK in a 4-3 set but he shinned in the 3-4. I think Doom will be out newest LB. A damn good one at that.

Doom as a LB in a 4-3? Do you know how a 4-3 defense works at all?

Gcver2ver3
01-13-2011, 01:09 PM
So if we go 4-3 then is Doom our new LB ?? I kinda like that.

no...

Quoydogs
01-13-2011, 01:10 PM
Doom as a LB in a 4-3? Do you know how a 4-3 defense works at all?

Ok then what do you do with him? Trade

Kaylore
01-13-2011, 01:10 PM
So if we go 4-3 then is Doom our new LB ?? I kinda like that.

Doom would probably go back to DE. We're not necessarily going to be 4-3 team, though.

55CrushEm
01-13-2011, 01:10 PM
Our team ROCKS with Fox and Cox !!!

:strong:

lostknight
01-13-2011, 01:11 PM
Ug, no to Mccoy please.

McCoy had solid improvements when he was able to be a OC. I thought McCoy was linked to Carolina anyways.

Part of the McDaniels mistake was firing Jeremy Bates.

BroncosMT
01-13-2011, 01:11 PM
any thoughts on Mangini for DC??? I don't know much about his D's.....just curious

bendog
01-13-2011, 01:11 PM
God, I hope he doesn't try to trade Tebow for Clausen behind our backs...

I suspect he has nightmares about PickleII

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:11 PM
I suspect Elway wanted his experience on board with him and Xanders. I'm not terribly excited, because this guy's offense is somewhere between Red Miller's view of NEVER taking a chance on your side of the 50yd line unless it's deep throw on first or second down that worst case will be about like a punt, and R66v6s' where the one unbreakable rule was a run on either first or second, or both, because you never want to be 3rd and 10 or worse. It may fit Tebow's abilities, but Den has just committed to being a defensive team, and we havn't been one since R66v6s got hired. They obviously could have done worse, because they did just that two years ago.

I don't presume to know what his offense will look like with us. You're describing an offense ran with talented backs and Jake Delhomme at QB. Who wouldn't conservative with that?

CEH
01-13-2011, 01:11 PM
So if we go 4-3 then is Doom our new LB ?? I kinda like that.

Fox is a smart guy. He knows pass rushers are a premium so I'm exicited to see who he uses Doom

Quoydogs
01-13-2011, 01:11 PM
Doom would probably go back to DE. We're not necessarily going to be 4-3 team, though.

Doom was only average in a 4-3. Too small. Gets paid way too much for what he can do there.

RocBronc
01-13-2011, 01:12 PM
If we're going to the 4-3 I'd try to trade Dumervil to a 3-4 team... It would have to be a sizable return but I'd try.

HILife
01-13-2011, 01:12 PM
.......... I guess.

epicSocialism4tw
01-13-2011, 01:12 PM
Very good.

-Experience leading an organization for a long time (will help with Elway/Xanders relative inexperience)
-Defensive coach (alas!)
-Leadership personality

Now come the questions:
-What does he decide to do with Tebow?
-What defense and offense will he use?
-Which coaches will he bring in?
-What personnel does he need to run his offense and defense?
-What will be his focus in free agency?

Hogan11
01-13-2011, 01:12 PM
Not sure if I'm more happy that it's Fox or more relieved that it's not Dennison.....either way, I'll take it.

Durango
01-13-2011, 01:12 PM
Good hire. Best of the bunch, I think. I honestly believe Fox will effectively re-build this team fairly quickly.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:12 PM
Ok then what do you do with him? Trade

No, you use him at DE. He was fine at the position and got pretty much all of his sacks in the 3-4 from a three point stance anyway.

Tombstone RJ
01-13-2011, 01:13 PM
Fantastic News! Fox is the same guy who made Jake Delhomme into a pro-bowl QB. He knows what it's gonna take to turn this team around and obviously, he's OK with Tebow too!!

Very Exciting!!

Steve Sewell
01-13-2011, 01:14 PM
sorry, shanahanites. You'll have to re-live 1998 through friends re-runs and your copy of madden '99.

rofl

BoulderBum
01-13-2011, 01:14 PM
http://blog.feefifoto.com/images/2008/02/13/lombardi_trophy.jpg

Rohirrim
01-13-2011, 01:14 PM
We would have a good front 4 if we do goto 4-3 with Bannan and Farley (hopefully) at DTand ayers and doom at DE

Farley?
http://www.artscenecal.com/Listings/WestHwd/TMossFile/TMossJPGs/AShafferJPGs/AShaffer7D.jpg

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:14 PM
-What personnel does he need to run his offense and defense?


Look for us to pursue DeAngelo Williams heavily.

UberBroncoMan
01-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Unfortunately McCoy was his QB coach in Carolina...he may be retained as the OC.

HILife
01-13-2011, 01:15 PM
John Fox (born February 8, 1955) is an American Football coach who is currenty the head coach of the Denver Broncos.

Denver BroncosOn January 13, 2011, Fox was selected to be the 14th head coach of the Denver Broncos.[1]


So as it is in wiki, so it is true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fox_(American_football)

theAPAOps5
01-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Oh, poor Crash had a hard time! WAAAHHHHHH

He is an angry little man today it seems.

Cmac821
01-13-2011, 01:16 PM
most triumphant!

BroncoInferno
01-13-2011, 01:16 PM
Look for us to pursue DeAngelo Williams heavily.

Williams is injury prone. We don't need another guy who can't stay healthy (three if you count Buckhalter). I'd expect us to bring in another back, but someone more along the lines of Michael Bush.

bendog
01-13-2011, 01:17 PM
I don't presume to know what his offense will look like with us. You're describing an offense ran with talented backs and Jake Delhomme at QB. Who wouldn't conservative with that?

Leopard's don't change spots. He'd ride his running backs till they wore out and then get another. Like I said, I'm on board. He's competent and has a tried and often successful philosophy of how to manage a game and build a team. Den needs that with Elway and Xanadu.

Had McD not let his ego get in his way, we might have seen an offense better than martz's in it's hayday. Anyone who watched the broncos from 1995-08 got used to 3rd and 8 or 9 being very managable downs. It's going to be much more conservative .. which means less exciting. But with an outstanding defense and a healthy team, Fox can win games.

FantomForce
01-13-2011, 01:17 PM
Is it ok to call him Foxy, cuz with Foxworth it was forbidden???

~Crash~
01-13-2011, 01:18 PM
Oh, poor Crash had a hard time! WAAAHHHHHH

Nope I hate people that judge people that do not know them and you are rather good at it back stabber !

next you will tell me point for point and give me links of what Dennison said about his thoughts on football and how it is all about only the Shanahan era . if so I got some crow to eat if not you are who you are a piece of ****.

theAPAOps5
01-13-2011, 01:18 PM
I don't presume to know what his offense will look like with us. You're describing an offense ran with talented backs and Jake Delhomme at QB. Who wouldn't conservative with that?

How do you have over 600 posts and your Join Date is Jan '11 :rofl:

24champ
01-13-2011, 01:19 PM
I like the hire. Broncos need some stability and credibility to the organization.

bendog
01-13-2011, 01:19 PM
No, you use him at DE. He was fine at the position and got pretty much all of his sacks in the 3-4 from a three point stance anyway.

He's really a run defense liability. It could work because he can wrap up an offensive tackle, but you're gonna need a really good Will and a safety who can hit in run support.

loborugger
01-13-2011, 01:19 PM
Put me down in the "I am pretty damn stoked about this choice" category. Was hoping they would get him ever since it became apparent that both McD and Fox wouldnt survive their current jobs.

theAPAOps5
01-13-2011, 01:20 PM
Nope I hate people that judge people that do not know them and you are rather good at it back stabber !

next you will tell me point for point and give me links of what Dennison said about his thoughts on football and how it is all about only the Shanahan era . if so I got some crow to eat if not you are who you are a piece of ****.

Hmm I guess I have to trust you as you clearly are an expert....

bendog
01-13-2011, 01:21 PM
Is it ok to call him Foxy, cuz with Foxworth it was forbidden???

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Hogan11
01-13-2011, 01:22 PM
<img src="http://image.lyricspond.com/image/c/artist-charlie-rich/album-charlie-rich-greatest-hits/cd-cover.jpg">

Awesome

Requiem
01-13-2011, 01:22 PM
Dumervil would go to end in a 4-3, duh.

Look at Charles Johnson and Everette Brown. Two DE's Fox drafted, who are undersized but have exceptional quickness (or at least did in college) coming off the ball.

Mr
01-13-2011, 01:23 PM
me too. I'm not in favor of moving back to the 4-3 with Ayers. It was tough enough to stop the run with Doom and a not very good Will behind him. But he's a decent, if not spectacularly innovative, HC

He'll help on draft day with Elway and Xanadu's inexperience

Im with you, hopefully theres balance in the force.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:23 PM
Williams is injury prone. We don't need another guy who can't stay healthy (three if you count Buckhalter). I'd expect us to bring in another back, but someone more along the lines of Michael Bush.

Prior to last season he had never missed significant playing time. Seeing as he'd be splitting the load with Moreno, I don't see a problem. Injuries are to be expected at running back.

Anyway he's the best free agent back available and he has connections with Fox, so I think it's very likely we pursue him.

schaaf
01-13-2011, 01:23 PM
yes!

I wonder if he'll try and get deangelo williams to come with him to complement knowshon

bowtown
01-13-2011, 01:23 PM
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Gcver2ver3
01-13-2011, 01:24 PM
yes!

I wonder if he'll try and get deangelo williams to come with him to complement knowshon

you beat me to it...

TD30
01-13-2011, 01:24 PM
god I hated watching his teams play offense

schaaf
01-13-2011, 01:25 PM
I agree but I think whenever you have Tebow playing quarterback that becomes instantly worth watching

Tombstone RJ
01-13-2011, 01:25 PM
On to the draft!!!

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:26 PM
He's really a run defense liability. It could work because he can wrap up an offensive tackle, but you're gonna need a really good Will and a safety who can hit in run support.

There are ways to scheme around Dumervil's (slightly overblown) weakness against the run. And besides, he wasn't an all-around 3-4 OLB anyway. His job wasn't that different from what it had been in a 4-3.

BroncoInferno
01-13-2011, 01:27 PM
Prior to last season he had never missed significant playing time. Seeing as he'd be splitting the load with Moreno, I don't see a problem. Injuries are to be expected at running back.

Anyway he's the best free agent back available and he has connections with Fox, so I think it's very likely we pursue him.

He may not have missed significant time, but he was always getting dinged up. He was splitting the load with James Stewart and that didn't stop him from getting hurt. We need someone more reliable to pair with Moreno.

yerner
01-13-2011, 01:27 PM
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! Wwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohoooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

I knew you would be happy.

boppool
01-13-2011, 01:28 PM
I approve.

I'm just glad we got this over with. We now can focus on rebuilding the team.

yerner
01-13-2011, 01:29 PM
I suppose when your near the bottom of the league in defense playing the 3-4 it doesn't make it to much of a problem to switch to 4-3. Can't be much worse.

ColoradoBuff
01-13-2011, 01:29 PM
Now go get Manusky or Ryan for DC!!

footstepsfrom#27
01-13-2011, 01:29 PM
He has Bill Walsh hair.

http://coacheshotseat.com/coacheshotseatblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/BillWalsh.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02kjfd56uF3v2/340x.jpg

bronco_diesel
01-13-2011, 01:30 PM
god I hated watching his teams play offense

his teams did not have tebow...this offense will be interesting.

bronco_diesel
01-13-2011, 01:30 PM
good hire! i am happy about this. most qualified and safest hire!

Steve Sewell
01-13-2011, 01:31 PM
Leopard's don't change spots. He'd ride his running backs till they wore out and then get another. Like I said, I'm on board. He's competent and has a tried and often successful philosophy of how to manage a game and build a team. Den needs that with Elway and Xanadu.

Had McD not let his ego get in his way, we might have seen an offense better than martz's in it's hayday. Anyone who watched the broncos from 1995-08 got used to 3rd and 8 or 9 being very managable downs. It's going to be much more conservative .. which means less exciting. But with an outstanding defense and a healthy team, Fox can win games.

I have a feeling that Tebow will provide plenty of excitement when he needs to.

vancejohnson82
01-13-2011, 01:31 PM
so we go 4-12 and hire the guy who went 2-14 to fix us?

nice

Steve Sewell
01-13-2011, 01:32 PM
Nope I hate people that judge people that do not know them and you are rather good at it back stabber !

next you will tell me point for point and give me links of what Dennison said about his thoughts on football and how it is all about only the Shanahan era . if so I got some crow to eat if not you are who you are a piece of ****.

You are nearly illiterate. Nearly.

extralife
01-13-2011, 01:32 PM
I think he's a pretty mediocre coach with no imagination.

but at least we know he'll try to make the defense not suck, which is a start.

bendog
01-13-2011, 01:32 PM
god I hated watching his teams play offense

As you get older, you'll appreciate it. When your prostate swells up to the size of a softball, you need extra time to piss the beer, and now missing an entire offensive series will not really matter.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:32 PM
Leopard's don't change spots. He'd ride his running backs till they wore out and then get another. Like I said, I'm on board. He's competent and has a tried and often successful philosophy of how to manage a game and build a team. Den needs that with Elway and Xanadu.

Had McD not let his ego get in his way, we might have seen an offense better than martz's in it's hayday. Anyone who watched the broncos from 1995-08 got used to 3rd and 8 or 9 being very managable downs. It's going to be much more conservative .. which means less exciting. But with an outstanding defense and a healthy team, Fox can win games.

You're making some pretty big assumptions there. His personnel dictated a conservative, run-first and run often approach. No one is going to adopt a pass-heavy approach, or even a balanced approach with Jake Delhomme as their QB.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:33 PM
so we go 4-12 and hire the guy who went 2-14 to fix us?

nice

These posts are seriously cracking me up. So much football knowledge...

yerner
01-13-2011, 01:34 PM
As you get older, you'll appreciate it. When your prostate swells up to the size of a softball, you need extra time to piss the beer, and now missing an entire offensive series will not really matter.

The roast a blunt offense? I can dig it.

Mile High Shack
01-13-2011, 01:34 PM
I'm ok with this....we could do a lot worse *cough* Dennison *cough

24champ
01-13-2011, 01:35 PM
his teams did not have tebow...this offense will be interesting.

Expect Davidson to be the OC, a former Bronco and his schemes should provide a smoother transition for Tebow since it has some variation of the Patriots offense.

footstepsfrom#27
01-13-2011, 01:35 PM
http://lostwolverhampton.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/p031-fox-pub-sign-illustration.jpg

meangene
01-13-2011, 01:36 PM
An experienced, quality NFL coach. Just what we need to bring back credibility to the franchise. He will be a nice compliment to the inexperienced front office.

vancejohnson82
01-13-2011, 01:36 PM
These posts are seriously cracking me up. So much football knowledge...

you're a ****in newbie clown...

this board was in total meltdown mode with McDaniels because he was "an idiot"

now we have a robot

ol#7
01-13-2011, 01:36 PM
Back whn Delhomme was still capable of masquereding as an NFL caliber QB, Carolina had some pretty dynamic offenses. They werent all boring.

I like the hire. Hope he builds a solid staff and rights the ship. What more can you hope for at this point?

Still a little shocked they made the right hire. Man the last two seasons have jaded me!

Requiem
01-13-2011, 01:37 PM
you're a ****in newbie clown...

this board was in total meltdown mode with McDaniels because he was "an idiot"

now we have a robot

Amegadoucheface is a clown.

Steve Sewell
01-13-2011, 01:37 PM
These posts are seriously cracking me up. So much football knowledge...

I was thinking the same thing. Some of the people on this board don't even scratch the surface when it comes to being informed yet they feel they have the right to make an informed opinion and waste everyone's time.

BroncoBen
01-13-2011, 01:37 PM
An experienced, quality NFL coach. Just what we need to bring back credibility to the franchise. He will be a nice compliment to the inexperienced front office.

I agree.. Fox will fix the Defense.. get the running game going... and see what Tebow can do.. what more can you ask for.

yerner
01-13-2011, 01:38 PM
Expect Davidson to be the OC, a former Bronco and his schemes should provide a smoother transition for Tebow since it has some variation of the Patriots offense.

Who is Davidson?

bronclvr
01-13-2011, 01:39 PM
I must be slow..........................I don't understand why you guys are so excited-his record at Carolina was 73-71, and while having a good Defense WILL be a breath of fresh air, I can't see why he is our "saviour"-I've read a bunch of Threads on him, and no one has given a definitive answer why he's so good, other than, "he's the best choice of the three"-someone, please, educate me-it looks to me we've gone backwards with this hire-

Kaylore
01-13-2011, 01:39 PM
Nope I hate people that judge people that do not know them and you are rather good at it back stabber !
<img src="http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=15709&stc=1&d=1147936819">

Backstabber? Do you even know what that means? Who did I double-cross?

next you will tell me point for point and give me links of what Dennison said about his thoughts on football and how it is all about only the Shanahan era . if so I got some crow to eat if not you are who you are a piece of ****.

Is that what this is about? You wanted Dennison and are pissed he wasn't hired and I poo-pooed him? Or are you mad the guy I didn't want wasn't hired and are annoyed I'm pleased by it? both?

I'll say this, you've had a problem with me for quite awhile and been too chicken **** to own up to it. You, Steeldude, and whoever else has this hate complex for a poster on an internet site needs to get over themselves.

schaaf
01-13-2011, 01:39 PM
I was beginning to think the mane was full of retarded fans until I read peoples comments on Eddie Royals Facebook Status of who should be the next coach... that left me feeling like there was no hope in life and that I should buy the shack the unabomber once owned hahaha

vancejohnson82
01-13-2011, 01:40 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Some of the people on this board don't even scratch the surface when it comes to being informed yet they feel they have the right to make an informed opinion and waste everyone's time.

for a board that was so consumed with W-L and playoff appearances

1 winning season out of the last 5

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:41 PM
Bottom line:

We just hired a coach that can pilot us to a Super Bowl if we make good defensive picks and Tebow can fulfill his potential. Make no mistake, it's all about how good Tebow becomes at this point...

yerner
01-13-2011, 01:41 PM
I must be slow..........................I don't understand why you guys are so excited-his record at Carolina was 73-71, and while having a good Defense WILL be a breath of fresh air, I can't see why he is our "saviour"-I've read a bunch of Threads on him, and no one has given a definitive answer why he's so good, other than, "he's the best choice of the three"-someone, please, educate me-it looks to me we've gone backwards with this hire-

He has proven that if he gets the talent he can coach a team to the Super Bowl.

HILife
01-13-2011, 01:42 PM
How do they do this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fox_(American_football)

Damn you beat me too it. By a lot.

Mile High Shack
01-13-2011, 01:42 PM
I must be slow..........................I don't understand why you guys are so excited-his record at Carolina was 73-71, and while having a good Defense WILL be a breath of fresh air, I can't see why he is our "saviour"-I've read a bunch of Threads on him, and no one has given a definitive answer why he's so good, other than, "he's the best choice of the three"-someone, please, educate me-it looks to me we've gone backwards with this hire-

eh, he was shackled with a cheap owner...let's see what he does with an owner that isn't "that" cheap

go_broncos
01-13-2011, 01:42 PM
Good News..Happy that we are bringing an experienced coach...

Houshyamama
01-13-2011, 01:43 PM
I wanted Fox to get the job.

There's one thing about him though that scares me: Why did he stick with Delhomme for so long?

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:43 PM
I must be slow..........................I don't understand why you guys are so excited-his record at Carolina was 73-71, and while having a good Defense WILL be a breath of fresh air, I can't see why he is our "saviour"-I've read a bunch of Threads on him, and no one has given a definitive answer why he's so good, other than, "he's the best choice of the three"-someone, please, educate me-it looks to me we've gone backwards with this hire-

He went to two NFCCGs and a Super Bowl with Jake Delhomme at QB. If you understand the game of football these days, you should know how hard it is to be that successful with a mediocre QB.

bronclvr
01-13-2011, 01:44 PM
He has proven that if he gets the talent he can coach a team to the Super Bowl.

Not calling you out, but where has he proven that? NFL, USFL or College?

bendog
01-13-2011, 01:44 PM
Back whn Delhomme was still capable of masquereding as an NFL caliber QB, Carolina had some pretty dynamic offenses. They werent all boring.

I like the hire. Hope he builds a solid staff and rights the ship. What more can you hope for at this point?

Still a little shocked they made the right hire. Man the last two seasons have jaded me!

Oh yeah. I think Tebow fits well into that. But there's always been a heavy weighting to running plays v. passing plays. Much like the old Red Miller teams, where even on Den's side of the fifty yard line Morton would take a shot downfield on second and ten, and if it didn't work, they'd play field position. I'm ok with it, but Car's offense wasn't something really exciting. Hopefully Tebow will continue to develop and be able to make plays. Pitt was pretty conservative in Rapesburgers early years too.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:44 PM
I wanted Fox to get the job.

There's one thing about him though that scares me: Why did he stick with Delhomme for so long?

He had no choice. The Panthers FO gave him nothing else to work with.

24champ
01-13-2011, 01:44 PM
Who is Davidson?

http://www.panthers.com/team/coaches/jeff-davidson/6e7cfaff-c328-4e64-b08c-d3248bea5e13


He is probably going to be our OC, and not McCoy.

Then again, maybe both will be on the staff. who knows how that will work out.

bronclvr
01-13-2011, 01:44 PM
eh, he was shackled with a cheap owner...let's see what he does with an owner that isn't "that" cheap

Hope that was the reason-

schaaf
01-13-2011, 01:45 PM
Not calling you out, but where has he proven that? NFL, USFL or College?

umm the NFL?

Mile High Shack
01-13-2011, 01:45 PM
Not calling you out, but where has he proven that? NFL, USFL or College?

he took Carolina to the superbowl against the Patriots one year

BroncoBen
01-13-2011, 01:46 PM
Bottom line:

We just hired a coach that can pilot us to a Super Bowl if we make good defensive picks and Tebow can fulfill his potential. Make no mistake, it's all about how good Tebow becomes at this point...

That is right.. give Tebow a year, see what he can do. If Tebow looks bad.. I bet Elway makes a big push to draft Luck next year when he comes out.

Gcver2ver3
01-13-2011, 01:46 PM
for a board that was so consumed with W-L and playoff appearances

1 winning season out of the last 5

in a pretty tough division and depleting talent every year...

with a strong FO, he has a chance to be succesful...

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:46 PM
Not calling you out, but where has he proven that? NFL, USFL or College?

Seriously?

Hogan11
01-13-2011, 01:46 PM
I wanted Fox to get the job.

There's one thing about him though that scares me: Why did he stick with Delhomme for so long?

This should be celebrated by the Tebowites

bronclvr
01-13-2011, 01:46 PM
He went to two NFCCGs and a Super Bowl with Jake Delhomme at QB. If you understand the game of football these days, you should know how hard it is to be that successful with a mediocre QB.


Thank you, I was aware of Delhomme and at times wondered why they didn't change QB's-must be a good reason-

bendog
01-13-2011, 01:47 PM
He went to two NFCCGs and a Super Bowl with Jake Delhomme at QB. If you understand the game of football these days, you should know how hard it is to be that successful with a mediocre QB.

He went superbowl as the DC of the Giants too. No one should question his competence. But, we had the best quarterback ever and then the coach who reinvented Walsh's WC offense to be the best rushing attack in football.

But hey, it's a hell of a step up from the last two years. "Josh" might be a genius, but his personality is toxic.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:47 PM
That is right.. give Tebow a year, see what he can do. If Tebow looks bad.. I bet Elway makes a big push to draft Luck next year when he comes out.

I highly doubt we will be in position to draft Luck next year.

outdoor_miner
01-13-2011, 01:47 PM
Jim Mora? Not-so-sure.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81da89ea/article/elway-announces-expanther-fox-will-be-broncos-new-coach?module=HP_headlines

Fox now will fill out his Broncos coaching staff, and former Seattle Seahawks (http://www.nfl.com/teams/seattleseahawks/profile?team=SEA) and Atlanta Falcons (http://www.nfl.com/teams/atlantafalcons/profile?team=ATL) coach Jim Mora is candidate to be defensive coordinator, a league source told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora. Before becoming a head coach, Mora was the defensive coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/profile?team=SF) from 1999 to 2003. He's now an NFL Network analyst.
La Canfora reports, via a league source, that Washington Redskins (http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS) special teams coach Danny Smith is a candidate to be the Broncos' special team coach.
Fox asked the Redskins for permission to interview Smith last year, when Fox was seeking a new special teams coordinator in Carolina at the time. The Redskins blocked the request, according to sources, but Smith declined to sign an extension with Washington and will be in essence a coaching free agent.
Fox also has strong ties to Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy, as McCoy worked for Fox in Carolina.
McCoy already has a year working with Tim Tebow (http://www.nfl.com/players/timtebow/profile?id=TEB603856), which is vital at this point, and it would be logical for Fox to keep some of the offensive staff in place after a productive offensive season and with Tebow's development so vital to the organization.

yerner
01-13-2011, 01:48 PM
http://www.panthers.com/team/coaches/jeff-davidson/6e7cfaff-c328-4e64-b08c-d3248bea5e13


He is probably going to be our OC, and not McCoy.

Then again, maybe both will be on the staff. who knows how that will work out.

Thanks. Dude has a aggressive goat-tee. What's he hiding?

Rohirrim
01-13-2011, 01:49 PM
http://www.panthers.com/team/coaches/jeff-davidson/6e7cfaff-c328-4e64-b08c-d3248bea5e13


He is probably going to be our OC, and not McCoy.

Then again, maybe both will be on the staff. who knows how that will work out.

Sounds damn good to me. I love a smash mouth rushing offense.

Agamemnon
01-13-2011, 01:49 PM
Thank you, I was aware of Delhomme and at times wondered why they didn't change QB's-must be a good reason-

Their GM thought a mediocre QB that could manage games was good enough to go the distance and so saw no reason to upgrade.

Dr. Broncenstein
01-13-2011, 01:50 PM
Sounds damn good to me. I love a smash mouth rushing offense.

Next task: find a smash mouth rusher.

mkporter
01-13-2011, 01:51 PM
@TimTebow: Welcome to Denver Coach Fox! Can't wait to get to work with you!!!


Kissing ass already... :rofl:

Rohirrim
01-13-2011, 01:52 PM
Next task: find a smash mouth rusher.

Isn't Michael Bush a FA? ;D

Mile High Shack
01-13-2011, 01:52 PM
Next task: find a smash mouth rusher.

oooo you mean Knowshown can't be a smash mouth RB??? :wiggle:

Tombstone RJ
01-13-2011, 01:53 PM
I must be slow..........................I don't understand why you guys are so excited-his record at Carolina was 73-71, and while having a good Defense WILL be a breath of fresh air, I can't see why he is our "saviour"-I've read a bunch of Threads on him, and no one has given a definitive answer why he's so good, other than, "he's the best choice of the three"-someone, please, educate me-it looks to me we've gone backwards with this hire-

Fox has an extremely good reputation in the NFL as a great HC. If you take this last season out (2-14) where he was a lame duck coach on a franchise in year one of rebuild mode, his overall body of work is respectable. Really, all things being considered, it's a great hire for the Broncos. He's the right coach at the right time IMHO.

bronclvr
01-13-2011, 01:55 PM
Well,

over at the Panther's Board they seem to like it-

"Welcome to years of mediocrity Denver. Club Fox, the Mile High version, is opening it's doors."


http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/54513-john-fox-is-denvers-new-head-coach-2.html


Although there does seem to be some love for him too-

HooptyHoops
01-13-2011, 01:55 PM
I'm excited, as I think Fox has the best chance to get a staff that is competent! Go get 'em Fox!

edog24
01-13-2011, 01:58 PM
As a side topic, I find it interesting none of the glamorous retread names got hired by any of the teams looking for a coach this season.

schaaf
01-13-2011, 02:00 PM
Well,

over at the Panther's Board they seem to like it-

"Welcome to years of mediocrity Denver. Club Fox, the Mile High version, is opening it's doors."


http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/54513-john-fox-is-denvers-new-head-coach-2.html


Although there does seem to be some love for him too-

I would love to be in the Super Bowl in two years. I would take that mediocrity

24champ
01-13-2011, 02:00 PM
Sounds damn good to me. I love a smash mouth rushing offense.

Running game will improve, since he does pretty well with the O-line. He did well with the Patriots O-line, Browns, and the Panthers as well. So he has a good track record with O-lines. However I wouldn't expect the Broncos to be a conservative running attack offense under Davidson. Davidson has some background and experience in the Patriots offense so he knows the terminology. It also doesn't hurt that he once blocked for John Elway in the early 90s.

Overall I would think he would be a good fit for the Broncos, and would provide a smooth transition for the offense.

edog24
01-13-2011, 02:03 PM
This is good, it's going to be the fastest way back to a winning program for this team. I have my concerns about Fox being able to get us to an elite level and maintain it, but I think we win more games and become a better team with this move.

bendog
01-13-2011, 02:03 PM
As a side topic, I find it interesting none of the glamorous retread names got hired by any of the teams looking for a coach this season.

Money and a lockout. Free agents aren't getting contracts either.

I know Car fans are down on this guy, and like I said his teams are as exciting as Monday leftovers and tap water, but I also think Richardson is using him as a red herring for his decision to just cut payroll and give up on even trying to win.

Old Dude
01-13-2011, 02:04 PM
"Welcome to years of mediocrity Denver. Club Fox, the Mile High version, is opening it's doors."

Compared to last year, mediocrity is a step up.

MacGruder
01-13-2011, 02:04 PM
Is John Fox a passionate coach? I thought what made the biggest difference between Tebow and Orton was Tebow's fire and passion which raised the intensity of the whole team. I am not familiar with fox but in what little I have seen from him he seemed pretty sedate.. is that an issue at all?

bendog
01-13-2011, 02:05 PM
"Welcome to years of mediocrity Denver. Club Fox, the Mile High version, is opening it's doors."

Compared to last year, mediocrity is a step up.

exactly. And Fox had a healthy qb in only 4 of his 9 years, and when he had one, he won.

http://www.footballdb.com/players/jake-delhomme-delhoja01

yerner
01-13-2011, 02:06 PM
yeah, don't read the panthers boards. it'll bum you out.

bronclvr
01-13-2011, 02:07 PM
"Welcome to years of mediocrity Denver. Club Fox, the Mile High version, is opening it's doors."

Compared to last year, mediocrity is a step up.



Yes, but Carolina had a worse record than we do this Year-where's the step up? Just the fact that he's better than Josh?

Bronco Boy
01-13-2011, 02:08 PM
Now the real question is when they inevitably film a movie about this whole saga, will John Fox be played by Albert Brooks?

schaaf
01-13-2011, 02:11 PM
Now the real question is when they inevitably film a movie about this whole saga, will John Fox be played by Albert Brooks?

I believe he will be played by either Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman.

Mr
01-13-2011, 02:12 PM
Are Fox and Tebow gonna getta long?

Steve Sewell
01-13-2011, 02:12 PM
for a board that was so consumed with W-L and playoff appearances

1 winning season out of the last 5

With a terrible franchise with a cheap owner and a mediocre QB.

Hell, knowing what I know now, if you told me that over the last 9 years my team had been 3 points away from a Super Bowl victory, with two trips to the AFC Championship Game to go with 3 division titles, I would have taken that any day of the week over the crap we've had to endure since SB 33.

Also consider that prior to this year, which was obviously a huge aberration considering the circumstances, Fox's record was 71-57. This is after taking over a team that was 1-15.

Steve Sewell
01-13-2011, 02:16 PM
not calling you out, but where has he proven that? Nfl, usfl or college?

lol

come on, man!

yerner
01-13-2011, 02:17 PM
I believe he will be played by either Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman.

that's just plain absurd. freeman is way too old.

bendog
01-13-2011, 02:20 PM
Kevin Costner as Fox, cause it'll be an epic

Kevin Spacey will be McD

William Shatner will be Bowlen

Alan Rickman = Ellis

Ashton Kutchner - Tebow

Richard Gere = Elway

Rowan Atkinson = Orton

Joaquin Phoenix - Lambchop

schaaf
01-13-2011, 02:21 PM
that's just plain absurd. freeman is way too old.

never never doubt the person who was in shawshank redemption... never

vancejohnson82
01-13-2011, 02:22 PM
With a terrible franchise with a cheap owner and a mediocre QB.

Hell, knowing what I know now, if you told me that over the last 9 years my team had been 3 points away from a Super Bowl victory, with two trips to the AFC Championship Game to go with 3 division titles, I would have taken that any day of the week over the crap we've had to endure since SB 33.

Also consider that prior to this year, which was obviously a huge aberration considering the circumstances, Fox's record was 71-57. This is after taking over a team that was 1-15.

Listen, I'm not going to be one of these people that bitches and moans for the next 3 years about whatever this guy does...but we go from a guy who couldnt get us over the 9-7 hump becuase apparently he had "gone stale." Then we get an exciting, passionate coach who maybe wasnt ready for the position, and we cut the cord. So now we go into the direction of a guy who couldnt get over 9-7 who runs a very plain and stale offensive game plan and will be trying to pull it off with an unknown QB

in my opinion I could have gone into a coma after Shanahan was fired, woke up on Day 1 of the 2011 season (if there is one) and I'll see the same team I went to sleep with. A perennial 8-8 team who can only win games when playing from ahead

I'll bitch for maybe another 2 days about it, hope that we get a nice OC and then I'm on board and doing the Fox Trot

zdoor
01-13-2011, 02:24 PM
Good choice. His experience will be really beneficial to our FO. He's a Tebow guy and he knows defense...

LRtagger
01-13-2011, 02:30 PM
Well,

over at the Panther's Board they seem to like it-

"Welcome to years of mediocrity Denver. Club Fox, the Mile High version, is opening it's doors."


http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/54513-john-fox-is-denvers-new-head-coach-2.html


Although there does seem to be some love for him too-

We have already been stuck in mediocrity for years.

Anyways, many Broncos fans said the same thing when Washington hired Shanny. The fact is the Panthers were MUCH better off with Fox than they were before he was hired. They have been to more Super Bowls and more championship games than Denver has since Fox was hired there.

bendog
01-13-2011, 02:32 PM
I think the panther fans had to buy PSL's too. the CBA has screwed Richardson, but he has no problem putting it to his fan base.

bendog
01-13-2011, 02:34 PM
We have already been stuck in mediocrity for years.

Anyways, many Broncos fans said the same thing when Washington hired Shanny. The fact is the Panthers were MUCH better off with Fox than they were before he was hired. They have been to more Super Bowls and more championship games than Denver has since Fox was hired there.

ps, of course RIchadson literally doesn't have a heart .. at least his original one.

SoDak Bronco
01-13-2011, 02:34 PM
Welcome to Denver Coach Fox!!! Elway, Fox and Xanders bring us back to the promise land!!

55CrushEm
01-13-2011, 02:35 PM
Is John Fox a passionate coach? I thought what made the biggest difference between Tebow and Orton was Tebow's fire and passion which raised the intensity of the whole team. I am not familiar with fox but in what little I have seen from him he seemed pretty sedate.. is that an issue at all?

Who cares? Shanny and Belichick are pretty mellow on the sidelines too. They have 5 Superbowls wins between them.

mwill07
01-13-2011, 02:39 PM
Listen, I'm not going to be one of these people that b****es and moans for the next 3 years about whatever this guy does...but we go from a guy who couldnt get us over the 9-7 hump becuase apparently he had "gone stale." Then we get an exciting, passionate coach who maybe wasnt ready for the position, and we cut the cord. So now we go into the direction of a guy who couldnt get over 9-7 who runs a very plain and stale offensive game plan and will be trying to pull it off with an unknown QB

in my opinion I could have gone into a coma after Shanahan was fired, woke up on Day 1 of the 2011 season (if there is one) and I'll see the same team I went to sleep with. A perennial 8-8 team who can only win games when playing from ahead

I'll b**** for maybe another 2 days about it, hope that we get a nice OC and then I'm on board and doing the Fox Trot

reality though, is that right now we are not a perennial .500 team - we're a 6-10 type of team, give or take a couple (8-8 when lucky, 4-12 when unlucky). We can't worry about where we were 3-5 years ago because those teams problems are very different than this team's problems.

2 years ago, we needed a coach who could take us form good to great. Right now, we need to get back to good first, and Fox can do that.

vancejohnson82
01-13-2011, 02:43 PM
reality though, is that right now we are not a perennial .500 team - we're a 6-10 type of team, give or take a couple (8-8 when lucky, 4-12 when unlucky). We can't worry about where we were 3-5 years ago because those teams problems are very different than this team's problems.

2 years ago, we needed a coach who could take us form good to great. Right now, we need to get back to good first, and Fox can do that.

I think personnel wise we are an 8-8 team....we were absolutely destroyed by injuries...take away any teams best defensive player and the team changes...look at the Steelers with Polomalu

anyway, were a young team that can be explosive on offense with the right coaching...i just hope we don't become this boring, predictable run of the mill 7-9 team

oubronco
01-13-2011, 02:43 PM
Welcome to Denver Coach Fox!!! Elway, Fox and Xanders bring us back to the promise land!!

Amen Brotha

Bronco Yoda
01-13-2011, 02:44 PM
Wooohooo... Tebow gett'n some Fox action! But I don't recall John releasing this interview.

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elsid13
01-13-2011, 02:45 PM
I understand the hire, I would have preferred Dennison, but I can live with this. The one thing I don't like about Fox is that his team has failed to develop young wide receivers and they don't play a lot of spread formations. The Offense does play a lot ZB so that is a good thing.

mwill07
01-13-2011, 02:49 PM
I understand the hire, I would have preferred Dennison, but I can live with this. The one thing I don't like about Fox is that his team has failed to develop young wide receivers and they don't play a lot of spread formations. The Offense does play a lot ZB so that is a good thing.

Well, Steve Smith came in under his watch, and Musin Muhammed had his best year W/ Fox. The rest though were a bag full of fail.

Los Broncos
01-13-2011, 02:51 PM
Crazy like a fox, let's make it happen.

baja
01-13-2011, 02:51 PM
Oh, poor Crash had a hard time! WAAAHHHHHH

So much for the kumbaya new coach new day thingy..

TD30
01-13-2011, 02:52 PM
I canít figure out why anyone likes this hire is it because he is the best of the worst? He took a team to the super bowl years ago? Or people are just so scared of a coordinator that he seems like the safest choice.

INbronco
01-13-2011, 02:56 PM
Since Fox likes vets we probably won't be trading Orton anytime soon and Dawks and Champ are probably safe for another 3 years. Hope we get a good quarterback coach.:rofl:

bfoflcommish
01-13-2011, 02:56 PM
I canít figure out why anyone likes this hire is it because he is the best of the worst? He took a team to the super bowl years ago? Or people are just so scared of a coordinator that he seems like the safest choice.

thats what I dont understand, everyone says well he too kteam to super bowl, you can also say he took a 12-4 team in 08 to 2-14 in just 3 seasons

frerottenextelway
01-13-2011, 03:04 PM
It feels surreal that we have a new Head Coach.

HooptyHoops
01-13-2011, 03:08 PM
It feels surreal that we have a new Head Coach.

Totally agree!

Mr
01-13-2011, 03:09 PM
Since Fox likes vets we probably won't be trading Orton anytime soon and Dawks and Champ are probably safe for another 3 years. Hope we get a good quarterback coach.:rofl:

Buddy at work told me Orton for Dehlomme & a pick???
Is this true???

TD30
01-13-2011, 03:09 PM
It feels surreal that we have a new Head Coach.


I have to say that is probably exactly what the Panthers fans are saying. 2-14 and you are the choice to resurrect a struggling franchise that performed better than you.

schaaf
01-13-2011, 03:10 PM
I can only hope :)

LRtagger
01-13-2011, 03:11 PM
thats what I dont understand, everyone says well he too kteam to super bowl, you can also say he took a 12-4 team in 08 to 2-14 in just 3 seasons

The 12-4 team was his team.

He also took a 1-15 team that wasn't his and took them to the Super Bowl in 2 years. He took the worst defense in the league and turned them into the #2 defense in the league in 1 year. He is exactly the type of guy we need. Maybe not for the next 20 years, but I have no doubt he is the best guy available to right the ship.

His owner pulled the rug out from under him this past year. On top of that he had problems from his best two offensive players. Steve Smith has imploded mentally and physically over the past couple seasons and D Williams went on IR early this past year. I believe they also lost a couple starters along the Oline. Not to mention he has the worst stable of QBs in the league. He still managed to put a good defense on the field which he has done since he came into the league as an asst.

When you are a defensive guy who likes to run the ball on offense, and you lose your starting RB, a couple of guys on the offensive line, and have Jimmy Clausen as your QB, your team is going to struggle.

We need stability on the defensive side of the ball and I have no doubt he will bring that - even if he is not the long term answer.

elsid13
01-13-2011, 03:13 PM
Buddy at work told me Orton for Dehlomme & a pick???
Is this true???

Yes and Denver unicorn's sperm with make Dehlomme the #1 QB in the league.

Requiem
01-13-2011, 03:13 PM
John Fox is like the Bill Clinton of the NFL. You interpret that how you want. It has multiple ones.

Mr
01-13-2011, 03:14 PM
Yes and Denver unicorn's sperm with make Dehlomme the #1 QB in the league.

Like it did for Bubby & Brian?

rbackfactory80
01-13-2011, 03:14 PM
I wanted Fox to get the job.

There's one thing about him though that scares me: Why did he stick with Delhomme for so long?

The made it to the big show together. That created an unbreakable bond.

Tombstone RJ
01-13-2011, 03:16 PM
The 12-4 team was his team.

He also took a 1-15 team that wasn't his and took them to the Super Bowl in 2 years. He took the worst defense in the league and turned them into the #2 defense in the league in 1 year. He is exactly the type of guy we need. Maybe not for the next 20 years, but I have no doubt he is the best guy available to right the ship.

His owner pulled the rug out from under him this past year. On top of that he had problems from his best two offensive players. Steve Smith has imploded mentally and physically over the past couple seasons and D Williams went on IR early this past year. I believe they also lost a couple starters along the Oline. Not to mention he has the worst stable of QBs in the league. He still managed to put a good defense on the field which he has done since he came into the league as an asst.

When you are a defensive guy who likes to run the ball on offense, and you lose your starting RB, a couple of guys on the offensive line, and have Jimmy Clausen as your QB, your team is going to struggle.

We need stability on the defensive side of the ball and I have no doubt he will bring that - even if he is not the long term answer.

Yep, and add in the fact that he was a lame duck coach the last 2 years and it's very difficult to win with this combination of factors.

If peeps just look at the last two years of Fox's coaching career they of course will have questions, but you have to understand the situation Fox was in. Fox has a great reputation and he would have gotten another HC opportunity with another NFL team if the Broncos had not swept him up.

frerottenextelway
01-13-2011, 03:17 PM
John Fox is like the Bill Clinton of the NFL. You interpret that how you want. It has multiple ones.

After 8 years, he's going to be followed by a horrible coach?

TD30
01-13-2011, 03:18 PM
Now all thats left is retaining Wink and McCoy and the cluster f!#@$ will be complete

Bronco Yoda
01-13-2011, 03:18 PM
If Foxy can't 'resurrect . . . nothing will
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/netizen/th_i110photobucket.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v30/netizen/?action=view&current=i110photobucket.jpg)

I'm going to have so much fun now.

Just say 'fox' and get your booby shot :)

elsid13
01-13-2011, 03:18 PM
Like it did for Bubby & Brian?

Unfortunately they both kept drinking it vs rubbing on their arm.

baja
01-13-2011, 03:26 PM
Listen, I'm not going to be one of these people that b****es and moans for the next 3 years about whatever this guy does...but we go from a guy who couldnt get us over the 9-7 hump becuase apparently he had "gone stale." Then we get an exciting, passionate coach who maybe wasnt ready for the position, and we cut the cord. So now we go into the direction of a guy who couldnt get over 9-7 who runs a very plain and stale offensive game plan and will be trying to pull it off with an unknown QB

in my opinion I could have gone into a coma after Shanahan was fired, woke up on Day 1 of the 2011 season (if there is one) and I'll see the same team I went to sleep with. A perennial 8-8 team who can only win games when playing from ahead

I'll b**** for maybe another 2 days about it, hope that we get a nice OC and then I'm on board and doing the Fox Trot

+1 Hard to figure all the excitement about this hire.

HAT
01-13-2011, 03:49 PM
I'd rather have this one.....man hands and all.

http://withoutmake.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/megan-fox-panties-2.png

Garcia Bronco
01-13-2011, 03:51 PM
i don't give a **** who the coach is. Win games, get in the playoffs.

Mr
01-13-2011, 03:52 PM
Unfortunately they both kept drinking it vs rubbing on their arm.

So does that put him # 2 or 3?
It's like choosing between dirt soup and sh*t soup.

frerottenextelway
01-13-2011, 03:54 PM
Since the day McD got fired, this has been like a dream.

Coach McD is fired.

We see Tebow come in, play well, and establish himself as the clear starter next year.

We have an epic Mile High comeback.

John F'n Elway is back with the Broncos.

We get a quality defensive-minded head coach.

- You mofo's better not wake me up.

frerottenextelway
01-13-2011, 03:56 PM
i don't give a **** who the coach is. Win games, get in the playoffs.

And remind the Raiders where their territory is, in the toilet.

Rohirrim
01-13-2011, 03:56 PM
+1 Hard to figure all the excitement about this hire.

Because we're going 7-9 this season and to the SB next season. :thumbs:

Garcia Bronco
01-13-2011, 03:59 PM
And remind the Raiders where their territory is, in the toilet.


you are correct. so "and beat the snot out of the Raiders."

Mr
01-13-2011, 04:06 PM
Because we're going 7-9 this season and to the SB next season. :thumbs:

Leading to our second B2B SB the year after that.

HAT
01-13-2011, 04:11 PM
The good news is....Some douchebag won't be able to register a firefox.com website. :thumbs:

Gutless Drunk
01-13-2011, 04:36 PM
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Play2win
01-13-2011, 05:01 PM
PS: He is my new adpot a bronco

Good Call! :thumbsup:

The MVPlaya
01-13-2011, 05:10 PM
The best option Broncos organization had imo. I was right all along about Mularkey never being a real option after he cancelled on the Broncos.

Had to get someone stable and had experience, and good connections around the NFL. At least get the Broncos heading in a positive direction.

frerottenextelway
01-13-2011, 05:12 PM
The best option Broncos organization had imo. I was right all along about Mularkey never being a real option after he cancelled on the Broncos.

Had to get someone stable and had experience, and good connections around the NFL. At least get the Broncos heading in a positive direction.

Hmmmm... This gives me concern about Coach Fox.

The MVPlaya
01-13-2011, 05:15 PM
Hmmmm... This gives me concern about Coach Fox.

The fact that I posted it or the fact that he's experienced?

The MVPlaya
01-13-2011, 05:20 PM
Let me quote myself and list some of you morons who thought the Mularkey thing was really going to happen.

I don't think Mularkey is really interested based on his cancellation, and based on the delayed rescheduling. It seems like he's just saving the Broncos face/PR a bit by rescheduling so it doesn't make it seem like he's completely disinterested (like Gregg Williams). As I said before, I think this is a pure PR move.

BlaK-Argentina

What part of Mularkey only POSTPONED the ****ing interview don't you understand?

DarkHorse

Mularky - Postponed.


There are many more obviously, and I'm sure most of you all went around during the cancellation time and believing that he rescheduled.

You ****ing idiots.

strafen
01-13-2011, 05:22 PM
Well, Fox was able to do a superb job with Carolina.
Took them to the SB and 2 play-off appearnces after that in 9 years.
Not too shabby, considering how cheap the Carolina FO is, and let's not forget, with a lousy QB.
Fox is a defensive minded coach. We will eventually have a great defense.
I'm not concerned with the offense, as long as Tebow is our QB, our offense will have tons of potential...

The more I look at this hire, the more I think we've nailed it right on...