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tsiguy96
01-11-2011, 10:15 AM
Take your choice. Fewell expected to be retained in NY due to recent reports by Gary Miller, Williams very clearly out, Rivera is taken, not going to remove Mularkey yet but thats also very unlikely.

Beantown Bronco
01-11-2011, 10:22 AM
As much as I'm not a fan of Fox, he's probably the only one on that list that has enough contacts to bring in competent coordinators and position coaches.

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 10:23 AM
Other.

Fewell.

Bigdawg26
01-11-2011, 10:23 AM
I would take Dennison if we can get Singletary as our DC! I really wanted Fewell or Capers tho!

baja
01-11-2011, 10:24 AM
Fox was just fired by one of the worse franchises in the league why do so many of you want him?

illbroncsfn
01-11-2011, 10:25 AM
Uugghh- Singletary as our DC- he is incompetent

tsiguy96
01-11-2011, 10:25 AM
Fox was just fired by one of the worse franchises in the league why do so many of you want him?

really gotta go over that again?

Ray Finkle
01-11-2011, 10:26 AM
kind of like tight rope walking over the following items and trying to figure out which one will kill you quicker if you fall.

1. thumb tacks
2. rolling pins
3. cork screw
4. a pot
5. a blender (not plugged in)...

Beantown Bronco
01-11-2011, 10:26 AM
Other.

Fewell.

Does Perry have a brother?

BigPlayShay
01-11-2011, 10:26 AM
Don't beleive the Fewell speculation. Origin of him backing out are from this guy saying it to Gary Miller:

http://twitter.com/#!/BigE76/status/24886551745929216

@BigE76
Ernest Shively: @thegarymiller from reading ESPN this morning sounds like Fewell is going to stay with the Giants.

So this guy got this from reading ESPN. He isn't a reporter and is just a fan. I don't see anything on ESPN regarding this.

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 10:32 AM
Does Perry have a brother?

I don't know.

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 10:32 AM
Don't beleive the Fewell speculation. Origin of him backing out are from this guy saying it to Gary Miller:

http://twitter.com/#!/BigE76/status/24886551745929216

@BigE76
Ernest Shively: @thegarymiller from reading ESPN this morning sounds like Fewell is going to stay with the Giants.

So this guy got this from reading ESPN. He isn't a reporter and is just a fan. I don't see anything on ESPN regarding this.

That.

tsiguy96
01-11-2011, 10:33 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/fewell_expected_to_stay_with_giants_qrQNZuXZcinnlC mO8AsklN?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

original source...fewell may very well still be a candidate but weve heard from a few places its unlikely hell leave nY

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 10:34 AM
Don't beleive the Fewell speculation. Origin of him backing out are from this guy saying it to Gary Miller:

http://twitter.com/#!/BigE76/status/24886551745929216

@BigE76
Ernest Shively: @thegarymiller from reading ESPN this morning sounds like Fewell is going to stay with the Giants.

So this guy got this from reading ESPN. He isn't a reporter and is just a fan. I don't see anything on ESPN regarding this.

Also, Millers "rumor" is we turned him down, not vice versa. The worst of twitter.

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 10:36 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/fewell_expected_to_stay_with_giants_qrQNZuXZcinnlC mO8AsklN?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

original source...fewell may very well still be a candidate but weve heard from a few places its unlikely hell leave nY

That article makes it clear people jumped the gun, he has no knowledge of Denver's intentions and doesn't pretend to.

Kid A
01-11-2011, 10:36 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/fewell_expected_to_stay_with_giants_qrQNZuXZcinnlC mO8AsklN?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

original source...fewell may very well still be a candidate but weve heard from a few places its unlikely hell leave nY

All I get from that article is that it is becoming increasingly likely he returns to NY because all the positions he interviewed for are beginning to fill up. Which is obvious. Not seeing reason to rule out any remaining mutual interest between him and the Broncos.

Steve Sewell
01-11-2011, 10:40 AM
Don't beleive the Fewell speculation. Origin of him backing out are from this guy saying it to Gary Miller:

http://twitter.com/#!/BigE76/status/24886551745929216

@BigE76
Ernest Shively: @thegarymiller from reading ESPN this morning sounds like Fewell is going to stay with the Giants.

So this guy got this from reading ESPN. He isn't a reporter and is just a fan. I don't see anything on ESPN regarding this.

LOL this is reaching Light Rail levels.

Why would Fewell back out of a potential HC situation. It just seems absurd.

ayjackson
01-11-2011, 10:47 AM
Fox and the Broncos. The marriage of a once proud coach with a once proud franchise. Surely, they will beat the odds.

Steve Sewell
01-11-2011, 10:53 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/fewell_expected_to_stay_with_giants_qrQNZuXZcinnlC mO8AsklN?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

original source...fewell may very well still be a candidate but weve heard from a few places its unlikely hell leave nY

That was one of the more speculative pieces of "journalism" that I've ever read.

ColoradoBuff
01-11-2011, 10:57 AM
Mularkey, Fox and Dennison...in that order if Fewell is no longer a canidate.

PRBronco
01-11-2011, 10:59 AM
Fox and the Broncos. The marriage of a once proud coach with a once proud franchise. Surely, they will beat the odds.

Everyone loves a redemption story!

Agamemnon
01-11-2011, 11:04 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/fewell_expected_to_stay_with_giants_qrQNZuXZcinnlC mO8AsklN?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

original source...fewell may very well still be a candidate but weve heard from a few places its unlikely hell leave nY

This was the reason Fewell wasn't included in the poll? That makes no sense.

Fewell is as likely to become our coach as ever.

baja
01-11-2011, 11:05 AM
really gotta go over that again?

Let me guess. Circumstances beyond his control right?

Pontius Pirate
01-11-2011, 11:05 AM
This is a list of fail.

If I were the Broncos I would be talking to Cowher, Billick, Peterson....you know, some guys who are proven winners at the HC position. Fox is okay, but the dude was at the reigns of the worst team in football this season.

Vegas_Bronco
01-11-2011, 11:13 AM
The fact that Nolan isn't even in the running just makes me wonder if differences between mcd and mike were over treatment of players on the sidelines. Josh was as aggressive as any coach I've ever seen on the players during the game. Nolan is the exact opposite....much like his father, very classy approach.
Most likely one of the strong 'NO THANK YOU BUT THANK YOU FOR THE OFFER' candidates.

PRBronco
01-11-2011, 11:14 AM
The fact that Nolan isn't even in the running just makes me wonder if differences between mcd and mike were over treatment of players on the sidelines. Josh was as aggressive as any coach I've ever seen on the players during the game. Nolan is the exact opposite....much like his father, very classy approach.

Was Nolan ever even on the sidelines? I remember some hubbub over McD wanting him calling plays from up above.

Agamemnon
01-11-2011, 11:17 AM
This is a list of fail.

If I were the Broncos I would be talking to Cowher, Billick, Peterson....you know, some guys who are proven winners at the HC position. Fox is okay, but the dude was at the reigns of the worst team in football this season.

You do realize that all those guys were noname coordinators at one time right?

You also know that no coach has ever won a Super Bowl with two different franchises right?

orange crusher
01-11-2011, 11:32 AM
Looks like quite the list of Yuk. Hopefully, that's not the full list.

OrangeSe7en
01-11-2011, 11:34 AM
As much as I'm not a fan of Fox, he's probably the only one on that list that has enough contacts to bring in competent coordinators and position coaches.

Id be worried also that Fox is a little drained and needs to recharge his battery. The past few years in Carolina were rough.

Kaylore
01-11-2011, 11:35 AM
I hope they take their time. If Xanders is running the draft, obviously he'll want the coach's input, but that means we don't have to have a coach signed immediately for the draft. We can take our time.

PRBronco
01-11-2011, 11:37 AM
I hope they take their time. If Xanders is running the draft, obviously he'll want the coach's input, but that means we don't have to have a coach signed immediately for the draft. We can take our time.

Oh man think of all the meltdown threads if we dont' have a coach signed by then.

edog24
01-11-2011, 11:40 AM
What a list. I am still hoping this is a smokescreen for a big name. Can you imagine everyone's reaction if we presented this list two years ago as possible candidates?

Agamemnon
01-11-2011, 11:40 AM
Oh man think of all the meltdown threads if we dont' have a coach signed by then.

I think he means that we don't have to hire a coach immediately because Xanders is already working on the draft, not that we don't need to hire a coach well before then.

razorwire77
01-11-2011, 11:45 AM
Not overwhelmed with these choices, but realistically, I think Fox has the defensive coaching abilities and experience to work out for us. Please, please no Dennision.

Homer Simpson
01-11-2011, 11:48 AM
Not overwhelmed with these choices, but realistically, I think Fox has the defensive coaching abilities and experience to work out for us. Please, please no Dennision.

My issue isn't Fox, it's the idea he'd retain McCoy

SoDak Bronco
01-11-2011, 11:49 AM
Not overwhelmed with these choices, but realistically, I think Fox has the defensive coaching abilities and experience to work out for us. Please, please no Dennision.

HELL double NO to Dennison

SoDak Bronco
01-11-2011, 11:49 AM
I hope we can still meet with Mularkey

meangene
01-11-2011, 11:57 AM
I don't think Fewell is out of the running. The reports I have seen just seem to think he is returning to NY because the jobs he has interviewed for are being filled.

baja
01-11-2011, 12:06 PM
Originally Posted by razorwire77
Not overwhelmed with these choices, but realistically, I think Fox has the defensive coaching abilities and experience to work out for us. Please, please no Dennision.



HELL double NO to Dennison

I bet if you go to Atlanta Falcons BB archives you will find similar things being said about Mike Smith,

baja
01-11-2011, 12:31 PM
If McDaniels was the little brat that ran off the successful Nolan why is he not on the interview list.

Popps
01-11-2011, 12:31 PM
Capers might end up an option, no?

Agamemnon
01-11-2011, 12:33 PM
I don't think Fewell is out of the running. The reports I have seen just seem to think he is returning to NY because the jobs he has interviewed for are being filled.

He isn't. I have no idea why the OP made that assumption.

Rohirrim
01-11-2011, 12:35 PM
There will be more coaches available to interview after this weekend. No rush.

bronco militia
01-11-2011, 12:38 PM
If McDaniels was the little brat that ran off the successful Nolan why is he not on the interview list.

I think Nolan wants total control. He lost his GM powers a year before getting fired in San Fran.

Ziggy
01-11-2011, 12:40 PM
I'd take Capers in a heartbeat.

tsiguy96
01-11-2011, 12:41 PM
capers not an option, been ruled out. i guess fewell deserves a spot on this list, but when we know more, well update it. basically trying to narrow it down to true possibilities, then see who can guess it correctly.

Chris
01-11-2011, 12:44 PM
Fewell. Thanks.

Agamemnon
01-11-2011, 12:48 PM
capers not an option, been ruled out. i guess fewell deserves a spot on this list, but when we know more, well update it. basically trying to narrow it down to true possibilities, then see who can guess it correctly.

Fewell is still a "true possibility".

tsiguy96
01-11-2011, 12:51 PM
Fewell is still a "true possibility".

yea, just acknowledged that. i cant modify the poll or i would put him back in, but the evidence at the time pointed otherwise. he is interviewing with cleveland today.

Fusionfrontman
01-11-2011, 12:52 PM
Why has Capers been ruled out?

tsiguy96
01-11-2011, 12:53 PM
Why has Capers been ruled out?

was reported last night and today, just confirmed that he was not contacted for an interview.

Mile High Shack
01-11-2011, 12:58 PM
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baja
01-11-2011, 12:59 PM
capers not an option, been ruled out. i guess fewell deserves a spot on this list, but when we know more, well update it. basically trying to narrow it down to true possibilities,<b> then see who can guess it correctly.

I already know. They will come to a consensus on Rick Dennison.

cutthemdown
01-11-2011, 01:00 PM
wow alot of coaches don't even want to interview with Denver. This isn't a good sign. No one really seems to want to coach this team and work with Elway.

Rohirrim
01-11-2011, 01:03 PM
I already know. They will come to a consensus on Rick Dennison.

It reminds me of the movie with Laurel and Hardy in the French Foreign Legion. They ask for volunteers and everybody steps back, living Stan and Ollie out front. Ha!

Agamemnon
01-11-2011, 01:10 PM
I already know. They will come to a consensus on Rick Dennison.

I'm so very afraid you're right...

meangene
01-11-2011, 01:10 PM
was reported last night and today, just confirmed that he was not contacted for an interview.

Can he be contacted while his team is still in the playoffs? I figured we didn't contact him last week because the Packers were playing in the first round.

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 01:57 PM
Seems to be down to 3: Fox, Fewell & Dennison. Probably in that order.

Odysseus
01-11-2011, 02:16 PM
wow alot of coaches don't even want to interview with Denver. This isn't a good sign. No one really seems to want to coach this team and work with Elway.

I do not know what all the factors are but I don't think it's one thing. I think Denver is just going to have a dry spell no matter who gets picked up unless something seriously changes.

Elway move could be hitting the panic button or it could be brilliant. It's hard to say from where I am sitting.

colonelbeef
01-11-2011, 02:19 PM
no thx.

colonelbeef
01-11-2011, 02:20 PM
wow alot of coaches don't even want to interview with Denver. This isn't a good sign. No one really seems to want to coach this team and work with Elway.

Elway isn't the problem with the Denver Broncos.

It's the lack of talent after the McDaniels debacle.

TonyR
01-11-2011, 02:24 PM
was reported last night and today, just confirmed that he was not contacted for an interview.

I think it's primarily because they don't want to wait. They want to name the coach by early to mid next week.

TonyR
01-11-2011, 02:25 PM
Elway isn't the problem with the Denver Broncos.

It's the lack of talent after the McDaniels debacle.

Wrong. Carolina has less talent and they didn't have a problem getting a coach.

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 02:30 PM
Wrong. Carolina has less talent and they didn't have a problem getting a coach.

How many people did Carolina interview?

Taco John
01-11-2011, 02:31 PM
Fox was just fired by one of the worse franchises in the league why do so many of you want him?

He's the only one on the list with NFL head coaching experience.

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 02:33 PM
He's the only one on the list with NFL head coaching experience.

Mularkey, Fewell and Studesville all have been Head Coaches.

Taco John
01-11-2011, 02:34 PM
The fact that Nolan isn't even in the running just makes me wonder if differences between mcd and mike were over treatment of players on the sidelines. Josh was as aggressive as any coach I've ever seen on the players during the game. Nolan is the exact opposite....much like his father, very classy approach.
Most likely one of the strong 'NO THANK YOU BUT THANK YOU FOR THE OFFER' candidates.

The lack of Nolan very much suprises me. I wonder if there is some history between he and John.

baja
01-11-2011, 02:35 PM
He's the only one on the list with NFL head coaching experience.

There are a lot of first time head coaches that are winning right now. Why are you locked into that model? Is it hangover from McD?

Taco John
01-11-2011, 02:40 PM
Mularkey, Fewell and Studesville all have been Head Coaches.

Fewell and Studesville have been interim head coaches, not real head coaches.

I plain spaced the fact that Mularkey had a two year run as the head coach of the Bills.

At least of the coaches, John Fox has some playoff experience.

Ray_Lewis'_Victim
01-11-2011, 02:43 PM
I don't know too much about Koetter, but I liked his coach search video.

You can make arguments for/against any of the candidates, and none of us knows how its gonna turn it. I trust the Duke to make a good decision.

Taco John
01-11-2011, 02:43 PM
There are a lot of first time head coaches that are winning right now. Why are you locked into that model? Is it hangover from McD?

Absolutely. Look, I'm just hoping for a guy who can bring this team back to 8-8. I'm not expecting any miracle turnarounds here. Josh, Bowlen and Ellis turned this franchise into an expansion team as far as I'm concerned, and I just want someone to come in and do the job that Marty did with San Diego years ago where he turned the franchise into a respectable organization and then handed off a stable situation.

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This is a 4 win franchise right now, and it shows across the roster. We've got a long ways to go. Of the coaches listed, I think Fox gives us the most likely chance to get back to even and better. The rest? They all seem like a huge gamble.

extralife
01-11-2011, 02:46 PM
why can't we just interview Mike Nolan :(

bloodsunday
01-11-2011, 02:47 PM
In fairness, Fox did take them to the Super Bowl. And the FO didn't do him any favors retaining Jake Delhome in 2009 when it was obvious he was one of the 5 worst QBs in football.

I think Fox would bring a defensive and running oriented type football (good for a young QB!). And I think he would be less polarizing coach than either Shanahan or McD.

I think it will be Dennison, but I hope it's not.

usndan
01-11-2011, 02:55 PM
My issue isn't Fox, it's the idea he'd retain McCoy

I totally agree with you. McCoy needs to pack his bags and hit the streets!!

txtebow
01-11-2011, 03:04 PM
He sucks. Are all of you incoherent dolts unaware how the Giants Defense folded like a cheap suit at the end of the season with LOTS more talent than ours has? I didn't think so,

bowtown
01-11-2011, 03:04 PM
Fewell and Studesville have been interim head coaches, not real head coaches.

I plain spaced the fact that Mularkey had a two year run as the head coach of the Bills.

At least of the coaches, John Fox has some playoff experience.

And not just some playoff experience. Take a look at this guy's resume and tell me that he's not the perfect candidate to restore this team:

http://www.panthers.com/team/coaches/john-fox/20dfb63b-88ae-4044-96a0-9577d2c933f1

I can't believe that we are lucky enough to be looking for a coach while he is available. I've said this before, but if Fox were on the market even 2 offseasons ago, people would be lumping him into the same category as Gruden and Cower. Fox is a better coach than Gruden and has a better regular and post season winning percentage to prove it. He's had a rough year with a lot of injuries, a rookie QB and bad management, but he's an elite defensive coach with a winning record, playoff and Superbowl experience, and his teams almost always finish strong. We would be crazy to let this guy out of Denver without a contract tomorrow.

Pontius Pirate
01-11-2011, 03:04 PM
You do realize that all those guys were noname coordinators at one time right?

You also know that no coach has ever won a Super Bowl with two different franchises right?

Your first point was about 10 times more valid than your second. Your second point is about as meaningful as asking "which of the current HC candidates have won a SB?"

BTW, 5 HC's have taken two different teams to the SB.

Requiem
01-11-2011, 03:05 PM
I'm down for a coach who straight up is gonna win football games.

BroncoMan4ever
01-11-2011, 03:09 PM
i can't believe Fox is leading the votes. i can't willingly vote for a guy who coached the team with the only record worse than us last season.

titan
01-11-2011, 03:27 PM
I already know. They will come to a consensus on Rick Dennison.

That's what I'm afraid of. Dennison had the least impressive video so far. Ellis really lit up when he greeted Dennison. Mike Klis of the Post in an interview this morning said he thought Dennison was in the top 2 or 3 for sure - that the Broncos wouldn't bring Dennison back for a courtesy interview since they turned Rick down two year ago.

I thought Koetter came off well in his video - better than I expected. Let's see how Fox does tomorrow.

Broncojef
01-11-2011, 03:28 PM
Dennison will be the guy. Hopefully this doesn't tear our fan base apart...so sick of the Shanny/McD crap.

Dennison
Played Defense for the Broncos
Grew up locally and went to college here
Was St coach during our Championship years
Stabilized our O-Line when Gibbs left
Has worked with/for the Broncos for many years
Has been an OC with a solid running game
Interviewed the best of anyone during the last coaching debacle

Bring in a solid DC and I think you have the answer...it's really
The only one we have the shape the roster is in right now.

cutthemdown
01-11-2011, 03:33 PM
Elway isn't the problem with the Denver Broncos.

It's the lack of talent after the McDaniels debacle.

Coaches don't mind lack of talent. They know most owners will give them a chance to pick some of there own players. Like mcdaniels got when he came here. The problem I see is a coach that is saying Xanders and Elway will be picking my players. I don't like how that sounds so I will pass on the interview.

We better hope Xanders knows what he is doing because there is no way Elway can get prepared for the draft and look for a coach.

It seems to me that Bronco fans already been programmed to accept less then what we hoped for after the Mcdaniels firing.

They keep Xanders? I mean cmon I don't think we had one keep Xanders post before it was obvious we were keeping Xanders.

cutthemdown
01-11-2011, 03:34 PM
I say if those are the choices we just stick with Studesville for now.

cutthemdown
01-11-2011, 03:35 PM
Broncos can fire Xanders, get a real gm, look for a better coach after this labor unrest is over. Hopefully Elway smart enough to pull this draft off. At least on the top end where we have some juicy picks.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-11-2011, 03:38 PM
Gimme FEWELL gimme FIRE gimme THAT WHICH I DESIRE - huh

tsiguy96
01-11-2011, 03:40 PM
Broncos can fire Xanders, get a real gm, look for a better coach after this labor unrest is over. Hopefully Elway smart enough to pull this draft off. At least on the top end where we have some juicy picks.

hahaha, are you actually serious?

BroncoMan4ever
01-11-2011, 03:41 PM
Gimme FEWELL gimme FIRE gimme THAT WHICH I DESIRE - huh

hell yeah

extralife
01-11-2011, 03:41 PM
Gimme FEWELL gimme FIRE gimme THAT WHICH I DESIRE - huh

grounds for a ban

TheElusiveKyleOrton
01-11-2011, 03:43 PM
grounds for a ban

You're just jealous you didn't come up with it.

Chris
01-11-2011, 03:48 PM
I'd like to point out that Tom Coughlin was 19–29 in his last three years in Jacksonville with a 6–10 finish in his final.

He turned out alright.

Fox could be good for us if we draft well. I still like me some Fewell swagger.

2KBack
01-11-2011, 03:50 PM
He sucks. Are all of you incoherent dolts unaware how the Giants Defense folded like a cheap suit at the end of the season with LOTS more talent than ours has? I didn't think so,

you are such a pleasant fellow. It's worth noting that the giants offense turned the ball over 9 times in the last 3 games...8 times in the two losses to Philly and Greenbay, which I'm assuming you are referring to.

BroncoMan4ever
01-11-2011, 03:50 PM
grounds for a ban

ban this!

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Popps
01-11-2011, 03:51 PM
Dennison will be the guy. Hopefully this doesn't tear our fan base apart...so sick of the Shanny/McD crap.
.

Oh, you haven't seen anything yet.

Dennison will lead to absolute chaos.

You'll have on one side... those stuck firmly in the past and on the other side... those who want to hire a coach based on some sort of tangible, recent success or credentials.

Again, of the options out there... this is the worst, and will lead to immediate accusations of Elway playing favorites to old friends, hiring someone not equipped to do the job, etc.

If that guy is brought in, it'll be complete chaos. Write it down.

AmericanBroncFan
01-11-2011, 03:52 PM
Broncos can fire Xanders, get a real gm, look for a better coach after this labor unrest is over. Hopefully Elway smart enough to pull this draft off. At least on the top end where we have some juicy picks.

You do realize that Xanders has NOT been the GM of this team yet? He was a cap guy under both Shanny and mcidiot.

cutthemdown
01-11-2011, 03:54 PM
hahaha, are you actually serious?

Yeah I am Hilarious!

With the lockout looming, or at the least some work stoppage that delays the offseason, the Broncos are in bad shape. Any new coach will have to wait until labor dispute is over to start coaching up the team. No offseason workouts etc etc. It would be almost impossible to get your system going and evaluate the roster.

Throw in the fact we have Xanders and Elway running the show for the first time ever and it is even scarier.

You really think Xanders a safe bet to keep job long term. I don't think so. I think they only kept him because Elway wants a chance to call the shots.

AmericanBroncFan
01-11-2011, 03:55 PM
That's what I'm afraid of. Dennison had the least impressive video so far. Ellis really lit up when he greeted Dennison. Mike Klis of the Post in an interview this morning said he thought Dennison was in the top 2 or 3 for sure - that the Broncos wouldn't bring Dennison back for a courtesy interview since they turned Rick down two year ago.

I thought Koetter came off well in his video - better than I expected. Let's see how Fox does tomorrow.

Koetter about put me to sleep. What a boring coach he would be. Players would be looking for a place to lay down and take a nap instead of playing hard.

cutthemdown
01-11-2011, 03:57 PM
You do realize that Xanders has NOT been the GM of this team yet? He was a cap guy under both Shanny and mcidiot.

Great then what has he done to warrant you thinking he can do it now? Square peg, meet round hole. He's a cap guy? fine then my point stands. Elway kept him because he's a weak GM when it comes to player evaluation. That way Elway can do it.

How people don't see this is myopia for the Broncos. Hell it may work I don't know but there are a lot of concerns. Especially for this next yr because of the lockout and needing a new coach.

Best move may be to keep studesville. At least he knows the players and wouldn't be as damaged by a shortened offseason.

TonyR
01-11-2011, 03:58 PM
How many people did Carolina interview?

At least 4, and they got the guy who may have been the Mane favorite.

tsiguy96
01-11-2011, 04:01 PM
Yeah I am Hilarious!

With the lockout looming, or at the least some work stoppage that delays the offseason, the Broncos are in bad shape. Any new coach will have to wait until labor dispute is over to start coaching up the team. No offseason workouts etc etc. It would be almost impossible to get your system going and evaluate the roster.

Throw in the fact we have Xanders and Elway running the show for the first time ever and it is even scarier.

You really think Xanders a safe bet to keep job long term. I don't think so. I think they only kept him because Elway wants a chance to call the shots.

youre right, so dont even hire a coach nor bother preparing for the draft. im so glad the OM doesnt have a say on this team....

AmericanBroncFan
01-11-2011, 04:02 PM
Great then what has he done to warrant you thinking he can do it now? Square peg, meet round hole. He's a cap guy? fine then my point stands. Elway kept him because he's a weak GM when it comes to player evaluation. That way Elway can do it.

How people don't see this is myopia for the Broncos. Hell it may work I don't know but there are a lot of concerns. Especially for this next yr because of the lockout and needing a new coach.

Best move may be to keep studesville. At least he knows the players and wouldn't be as damaged by a shortened offseason.

He was assistant GM in Atlanta and was thought to be promising. NOW HE HAS HIS CHANCE TO SHINE (maybe). I don't put it past Elway and Pat to give full control to a Fox type of coach.

razorwire77
01-11-2011, 04:10 PM
Oh, you haven't seen anything yet.

Dennison will lead to absolute chaos.

You'll have on one side... those stuck firmly in the past and on the other side... those who want to hire a coach based on some sort of tangible, recent success or credentials.

Again, of the options out there... this is the worst, and will lead to immediate accusations of Elway playing favorites to old friends, hiring someone not equipped to do the job, etc.

If that guy is brought in, it'll be complete chaos. Write it down.

Yeah, and it will be mostly justified. It seems to me that the vast majorit of us think Dennison doesn't have the qualifications to be considered for the position. It would lead to the immediate accusations of Elway playing favorites, because he would be playing favorites to old friends. Hopefully, as a franchise we avoid this entire hornet's nest by hiring a more qualified candidate.

gunns
01-11-2011, 04:29 PM
I think it's primarily because they don't want to wait. They want to name the coach by early to mid next week.

Well that's going to be kind of hard to interview Mularkey if the Falcons win this weekend. They told him they would wait and interview him.

strafen
01-11-2011, 04:44 PM
Oh, you haven't seen anything yet.

Dennison will lead to absolute chaos.

You'll have on one side... those stuck firmly in the past and on the other side... those who want to hire a coach based on some sort of tangible, recent success or credentials.

Again, of the options out there... this is the worst, and will lead to immediate accusations of Elway playing favorites to old friends, hiring someone not equipped to do the job, etc.

If that guy is brought in, it'll be complete chaos. Write it down.
Aaah, I now feel confident the opposite will happen.

TonyR
01-11-2011, 04:47 PM
Well that's going to be kind of hard to interview Mularkey if the Falcons win this weekend. They told him they would wait and interview him.

I don't know if that's true, but maybe you have some other info.

Atlanta offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey has postponed his interview until after the Falcons’ season is over. He’ll likely interview with the Broncos if they don’t already have a new coach by that time. The Broncos were not upset with Mularkey’s decision, but they will not purposely wait for him, either.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/23197/williams-pulls-out-of-denver-search

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 04:54 PM
I would imagine anyone that supported McD's hire would support Dennison, he's unquestionably more mature and more qualified.

zdoor
01-11-2011, 05:12 PM
I was hoping for Rivera but Fox is my next choice out of our list. The Panthers sucked this year due to talent at the skill spots but his teams have always played hard and he made it to the SB with Delhomme at QB. He is the most experienced guy on our list and I like the idea of offsetting the inexperience in the front office with experience at HC.

Dennison would not be my favorite but I could live with it. He has more experience than Tiny had and has had some good exposure to several different schemes on offense. His success would hinge on who we get for co-ordinators IMO.

TonyR
01-11-2011, 05:22 PM
I would imagine anyone that supported McD's hire would support Dennison, he's unquestionably more mature and more qualified.

Interesting logic. Although I completely disagree with it.

Mogulseeker
01-11-2011, 05:30 PM
I would imagine anyone that supported McD's hire would support Dennison, he's unquestionably more mature and more qualified.

I'd rather have McDaniels than anyone mentioned (I guess he had to be fired given the myriad of problems we encountered), but of those... eh. Probably Dennison.

rbackfactory80
01-11-2011, 05:42 PM
I would take Dennison if we can get Singletary as our DC! I really wanted Fewell or Capers tho!

I like this.

Mogulseeker
01-11-2011, 05:46 PM
I still want 3-4.

Broncojef
01-11-2011, 05:46 PM
Wouldn't Fox want more control of the team? I can't get too excited about any of these guys but Dennison seems the logical choice.

Hogan11
01-11-2011, 05:52 PM
Outside of Fox, it's a dismal list

"At least Dennison has Broncos roots!!!" what a bunch of irrelevent garbage that is.

The Rivera hire in Carolina clearly shows that they have a far more intelligent front office than Denver does. If that comes off as an affront to Elway, then so be it because he fumbled the ball on that one.

I'm not optimistic on the remaining canadates. Even still, whomever it turns out to be, I won't be chased into hiding like some were with the McDaniels hiring. I'll give them an honest chance, but I'm far from happy with how it's been handled thus far.

BlaK-Argentina
01-11-2011, 06:08 PM
John Fox out of that list, definitely.

Popps
01-11-2011, 06:09 PM
I would imagine anyone that supported McD's hire would support Dennison, he's unquestionably more mature and more qualified.

Really, for which SB teams did Dennison serve as OC?

Why does this have to be about McDaniels, anyway? What does that have to do with hiring the right coach. Bowlen took a chance on an up and coming coordinator. The last time he did it, he won two SB's. So, he tried it again with less success.

But, that's not the point. The point is... Dennison offers absolutely nothing in the way of tangible evidence to point to him being a qualified candidate.

Basically, he's "a dude we know." He used to work for us in some capacity.
Big deal. So did Bob Slowick.

For some people, that's enough. For most, it's not. If he hire him... it'll say a lot about what's going on in the front office. People aren't going to trust this hiring, and rightfully so.

tsiguy96
01-11-2011, 06:27 PM
Outside of Fox, it's a dismal list

"At least Dennison has Broncos roots!!!" what a bunch of irrelevent garbage that is.

The Rivera hire in Carolina clearly shows that they have a far more intelligent front office than Denver does. If that comes off as an affront to Elway, then so be it because he fumbled the ball on that one.

I'm not optimistic on the remaining canadates. Even still, whomever it turns out to be, I won't be chased into hiding like some were with the McDaniels hiring. I'll give them an honest chance, but I'm far from happy with how it's been handled thus far.

me too, but i know its to much to ask of the entire OM. "wait and see" isnt good enough!

Tim
01-11-2011, 06:27 PM
Really, for which SB teams did Dennison serve as OC?

Why does this have to be about McDaniels, anyway? What does that have to do with hiring the right coach. Bowlen took a chance on an up and coming coordinator. The last time he did it, he won two SB's. So, he tried it again with less success.

But, that's not the point. The point is... Dennison offers absolutely nothing in the way of tangible evidence to point to him being a qualified candidate.

Basically, he's "a dude we know." He used to work for us in some capacity.
Big deal. So did Bob Slowick.

For some people, that's enough. For most, it's not. If he hire him... it'll say a lot about what's going on in the front office. People aren't going to trust this hiring, and rightfully so.

for what its worth josh didn't coach offense on a super bowl winning team but rico coached special teams on super bowl winning teams

ZONA
01-11-2011, 06:48 PM
There are teams such as the Steelers and Ravens who have had a few different coaches over the past several years and they seem to do alright. I almost think a really good GM who knows personnel is more important then the HC. I'm a big believer in talent on the field is more responsible for winning then coaching is. Not saying a good HC is not a good thing but this team is in such a bad way right now because of the lack of talent on the field.

~Crash~
01-11-2011, 07:03 PM
The fact that Nolan isn't even in the running just makes me wonder if differences between mcd and mike were over treatment of players on the sidelines. Josh was as aggressive as any coach I've ever seen on the players during the game. Nolan is the exact opposite....much like his father, very classy approach.
Most likely one of the strong 'NO THANK YOU BUT THANK YOU FOR THE OFFER' candidates. were in the hell you pull that out of your ass ?

frerottenextelway
01-11-2011, 07:22 PM
for what its worth josh didn't coach offense on a super bowl winning team but rico coached special teams on super bowl winning teams

Good point.

baja
01-11-2011, 07:55 PM
Great then what has he done to warrant you thinking he can do it now? Square peg, meet round hole. He's a cap guy? fine then my point stands. Elway kept him because he's a weak GM when it comes to player evaluation. That way Elway can do it.

How people don't see this is myopia for the Broncos. Hell it may work I don't know but there are a lot of concerns. Especially for this next yr because of the lockout and needing a new coach.

<b>Best move may be to keep studesville. At least he knows the players and wouldn't be as damaged by a shortened offseason.

I must admit that has some merit.

orange crusher
01-11-2011, 08:03 PM
There are teams such as the Steelers and Ravens who have had a few different coaches over the past several years and they seem to do alright. I almost think a really good GM who knows personnel is more important then the HC. I'm a big believer in talent on the field is more responsible for winning then coaching is. Not saying a good HC is not a good thing but this team is in such a bad way right now because of the lack of talent on the field.

...and we kept Xanders. :pity:

bowtown
01-11-2011, 08:05 PM
I must admit that has some merit.

Not really. One thing this team can not handle is more turnover in a short amount of time. To hire a guy based on how well he can run damage control on a single season that could not even exist is incredibly short sighted. We need to hire a coach who is going to rebuild this team and be our future before and after the CBA is in place. Now I'm not saying that Studes is not that guy, but to give him any sort of benefit based on a single looming season is not long term iring and is more of the same instant gratification mentailty that got this team to where it is today.

baja
01-11-2011, 08:17 PM
Not really. One thing this team can not handle is more turnover in a short amount of time. To hire a guy based on how well he can run damage control on a single season that could not even exist is incredibly short sighted. We need to hire a coach who is going to rebuild this team and be our future before and after the CBA is in place. Now I'm not saying that Studes is not that guy, but to give him any sort of benefit based on a single looming season is not long term iring and is more of the same instant gratification mentailty that got this team to where it is today.

Know what is funny as hell. None of us have a clue who will be a good coach yet we pretend to know so much that we can justify becoming irate or esthetic depending on the guy being discussed. I will never make fun of my sisters having serious debates about some jilted lover on the afternoon soap, not when I'm engrossed in my own soap right here at the Orange Mane.

Oh I agree hiring anybody just to get through one whacked season would be silly.

cutthemdown
01-11-2011, 09:19 PM
He was assistant GM in Atlanta and was thought to be promising. NOW HE HAS HIS CHANCE TO SHINE (maybe). I don't put it past Elway and Pat to give full control to a Fox type of coach.

Firing Xanders before the draft unless we had some big time established GM ready to come in probably wouldn't be a good idea. If there is a work stoppage then studsville may be the smart move because he knows the players best and would be least set back by not having offseason workouts.

I'm willing to give Xanders the benifit of the doubt but I still say he is only sticking around because of Elway. Xanders unproven and not in a position of power. Very easy for Elway to push around.

Let's just hope this draft has 4-5 studs at top end. That Peterson, Fairley, Bowers are all total studs so it won't matter who we pick.

HAT
01-11-2011, 09:47 PM
I was thoroughly on the GW bandwagon but now that he is out of the running....Give me dome DK. (In before rev quotes me as saying "give me some DK")

cutthemdown
01-11-2011, 10:52 PM
I'd just keep Studesville and Wink if there is going to be a lockout.

footstepsfrom#27
01-11-2011, 10:53 PM
Which ones did the executive search firm find? ;D

Broncos4Life
01-11-2011, 11:35 PM
Koetter is really flying under the radar here......

Odysseus
01-12-2011, 12:55 AM
...and we kept Xanders. :pity:

How is it the Ravens, and Steelers consistently win no matter who is coaching the team? The problem with the Broncos is in the headquarters.

If the team starts winning Xanders might be there awhile.

Boomhauer
01-12-2011, 01:01 AM
Koetter is really flying under the radar here......

There are four guys that I'd have no objection to seeing in Denver, though each has their +/-'s. Koetter is the best option, followed by a near-tie between Fewell and Dennison. Last is the seat-warming administrator Fox. Evaluations in order of HC ability............

OC Dirk Koetter: A complete offensive mind that will balance run/pass, including knowing speed/power running and WC/vert passing. An experienced QB coach that will develope and get the most from who's under center. The best player-evaluator of these four which will raise the Broncos from worst-roster to competitive in one offseason. Though an Offense guy, he's had his feet wet with defense when a HC. Three years as OC, preceded by 6 yrs as college HC+OC and 3 yrs as college HC.

DC Perry Fewell: Very good at what he does, wether it be aginst the run, pass, turnovers and gameplanning. Gotten the most out of average players which is very important considering the Broncos' roster. No offensive or HC experience which means we'll need a solid OC and player selection would likely come from the failed mind of Xanders. Five years as a DC, preceded by 8yrs coaching secondary.

OC Rick Dennison: The best teacher of premier running attack in the NFL. When it comes to the complete trenches (OL, RB, TE + DL, LB), he's the best coach available. No experience with QBs or DBs, which would need to be emphasized through coordinators, but would create a very solid foundation for any system to work off of. No HC experience would, again, mean Xanders' personel ineptitude would continue to plague the team. One year as OC, preceded by 1 yr OL, 3 yrs OC, 5yrs OL and 4 yrs with Sp-Ts.

HC John Fox: While he got his start in the NFL in defense and has been an effective HC for Carolina this decade, he's a system manager, not a coach. Would need good coordinators to establish systems and Xanders to assemble a roster. From there, he'd work the day-to-day and gameday oversight, but don't expect him to make players, roster or the team better. Eight yrs HC, preceded by 2 yrs DC, 2 yrs unemployed (consultant), 2 yrs DC and 5 yrs secondary.

Though the topic now is HC, GM Xanders is lead Scout and negotiator, but removing him from the organization is essential to success. He's a proven failure with contracts and, likewise, would easily be replaced as Scout director. Most importantly is to end his say in personel evaluations/selection and leaving it to Elway, the new HC/coordinators and new Scout director.

Odysseus
01-12-2011, 01:04 AM
This is a list of fail.

If I were the Broncos I would be talking to Cowher, Billick, Peterson....you know, some guys who are proven winners at the HC position. Fox is okay, but the dude was at the reigns of the worst team in football this season.

Cowher is not coming out of retirement this year for anybody.

What I am interested in is why the support for Dirk Koetter by some of the more respectable members on this board? I have nothing against the guy I just do not know much about him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Koetter

fontaine
01-12-2011, 01:07 AM
Fox was just fired by one of the worse franchises in the league why do so many of you want him?

I would have thought the answer was obvious.

The last thing this team needs is a first time head coach to learn on the job while almost every aspect of this organisation from it's staff to most of it's players need a major rework.

First time HCs really only work going into an extremely stable franchise that everything from personnel to the coaching staff pretty well set like the Steelers with Tomlin.

Odysseus
01-12-2011, 01:08 AM
There are four guys that I'd have no objection to seeing in Denver, though each has their +/-'s. Koetter is the best option, followed by a near-tie between Fewell and Dennison. Last is the seat-warming administrator Fox. Evaluations in order of HC ability............

OC Dirk Koetter: A complete offensive mind that will balance run/pass, including knowing speed/power running and WC/vert passing. An experienced QB coach that will develope and get the most from who's under center. The best player-evaluator of these four which will raise the Broncos from worst-roster to competitive in one offseason. Though an Offense guy, he's had his feet wet with defense when a HC. Three years as OC, preceded by 6 yrs as college HC+OC and 3 yrs as college HC.

DC Perry Fewell: Very good at what he does, wether it be aginst the run, pass, turnovers and gameplanning. Gotten the most out of average players which is very important considering the Broncos' roster. No offensive or HC experience which means we'll need a solid OC and player selection would likely come from the failed mind of Xanders. Five years as a DC, preceded by 8yrs coaching secondary.

OC Rick Dennison: The best teacher of premier running attack in the NFL. When it comes to the complete trenches (OL, RB, TE + DL, LB), he's the best coach available. No experience with QBs or DBs, which would need to be emphasized through coordinators, but would create a very solid foundation for any system to work off of. No HC experience would, again, mean Xanders' personel ineptitude would continue to plague the team. One year as OC, preceded by 1 yr OL, 3 yrs OC, 5yrs OL and 4 yrs with Sp-Ts.

HC John Fox: While he got his start in the NFL in defense and has been an effective HC for Carolina this decade, he's a system manager, not a coach. Would need good coordinators to establish systems and Xanders to assemble a roster. From there, he'd work the day-to-day and gameday oversight, but don't expect him to make players, roster or the team better. Eight yrs HC, preceded by 2 yrs DC, 2 yrs unemployed (consultant), 2 yrs DC and 5 yrs secondary.

Though the topic now is HC, GM Xanders is lead Scout and negotiator, but removing him from the organization is essential to success. He's a proven failure with contracts and, likewise, would easily be replaced as Scout director. Most importantly is to end his say in personel evaluations/selection and leaving it to Elway, the new HC/coordinators and new Scout director.

This makes Fox look extremely vulnerable given we have Xanders. This really argues strongly for Koetter because that is what the Broncos need. If he is as described my vote changes for what the smart guys on the board are all tracking. :)

Can I change my vote? No? Aw Nuts.

fontaine
01-12-2011, 01:18 AM
Coaches don't mind lack of talent. They know most owners will give them a chance to pick some of there own players. Like mcdaniels got when he came here. The problem I see is a coach that is saying Xanders and Elway will be picking my players. I don't like how that sounds so I will pass on the interview.

We better hope Xanders knows what he is doing because there is no way Elway can get prepared for the draft and look for a coach.

It seems to me that Bronco fans already been programmed to accept less then what we hoped for after the Mcdaniels firing.

They keep Xanders? I mean cmon I don't think we had one keep Xanders post before it was obvious we were keeping Xanders.

Why do people think that this is the way it's going to happen? It's neither in the best interest of the coach or GM to do that.

Even under Shanahan, he basically had veto power to have the final say but that only took place if there was a disagreement on opinion as to who to sign/draft.

I look at it more as sharing the responsibility of making the decisions and coming to a joint decision rather than what we had in the past two years where Josh wouldn't even consult the GM about some of the batsh*t crazy moves he was doing.

Odysseus
01-12-2011, 01:19 AM
Know what is funny as hell. None of us have a clue who will be a good coach yet we pretend to know so much that we can justify becoming irate or esthetic depending on the guy being discussed. I will never make fun of my sisters having serious debates about some jilted lover on the afternoon soap, not when I'm engrossed in my own soap right here at the Orange Mane.

Oh I agree hiring anybody just to get through one whacked season would be silly.

It is tough decision. It depends on what you want risk or stability. The funny thing is Ryan Leaf and Peyton Manning was actually a debate at one point. I wonder if we are looking at future Super bowl coach and don't even know it?

What do the posters think of Mike Singletary on the coaching staff?

fontaine
01-12-2011, 01:22 AM
I know it's improbably given that Bowlen/Ellis/Xanders effectively let Dennison walk last offseason (really makes you wonder WFT they were doing now that he's wanted back in Denver), but I'd love to have Fox as the HC and somehow convince Dennison to sign on as the OC.

ol#7
01-12-2011, 02:07 AM
Fontain really hits around the main point on why Fox is the best, heck only viable candidate and that is since he was an NFL HC already, he has the contacts to put together a competent staff already. Josh's staff was so inept, it was thought he wouldnt be fired because there was no viable candidate to even serve on an interim basis. The entire staff needs to be reworked/fired including the strength and conditioning guy! That said, I bet they hire Dennison.

fontaine
01-12-2011, 09:38 AM
Fontain really hits around the main point on why Fox is the best, heck only viable candidate and that is since he was an NFL HC already, he has the contacts to put together a competent staff already. Josh's staff was so inept, it was thought he wouldnt be fired because there was no viable candidate to even serve on an interim basis. The entire staff needs to be reworked/fired including the strength and conditioning guy! That said, I bet they hire Dennison.

I don't think Dennison would be a bad hire. At least the guy is humble enough to realize his pros and cons and would be willing to bring in the type of assistants that could make it work rather than being a fist pumping a$$hole who's threatened by every assistant who has any kind of success.

Fox as the HC would have similar qualities and would be content to handle the defensive side of things and let Dennison mind the offense if we can convince Dennison to go down that route.

Boomhauer
01-12-2011, 10:18 PM
...What do the posters think of Mike Singletary on the coaching staff?

Good defenses have to be a little crazy and close knit. It helps if the DC is a bit nuts too, but nessisary he's a 'players coach'. Wink and Singletary both fit those criteria, but I'd rather we keep Wink for consistancy though he'd need to improve his staff.

Odysseus
01-16-2011, 07:08 PM
Good defenses have to be a little crazy and close knit. It helps if the DC is a bit nuts too, but nessisary he's a 'players coach'. Wink and Singletary both fit those criteria, but I'd rather we keep Wink for consistancy though he'd need to improve his staff.

If the Broncos don't make a top ten defense a priority they will never have one.