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illbroncsfn
01-05-2011, 05:30 PM
Mike Nolan
Rick Dennison

Anyone else surprised these two have yet to be mentioned as potential head coaching candidates?

epicSocialism4tw
01-05-2011, 05:40 PM
Who all has been mentioned by the organization?

illbroncsfn
01-05-2011, 05:47 PM
Mike (Mark) Mularkey
Perry Fewell
Gregg Williams
Eric Studesville
Jim Harbaugh (No interview currently planned)

Of these 4 I would be most ok w/Mularkey- but I'm not overwhelmed w/joy by any means

Bronco Boy
01-05-2011, 05:53 PM
I've heard good things about Don Martindale.

orange crusher
01-05-2011, 06:03 PM
I've heard good things about Don Martindale.

Have you been talking to Rob Ryan?

Bronco Yoda
01-05-2011, 06:14 PM
Mike Nolan
Rick Dennison

Anyone else surprised these two have yet to be mentioned as potential head coaching candidates?

I'm sure they're being considered if available. We don't know the complete list.

mr007
01-05-2011, 06:14 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but why isn't Gregg Williams being given more love?

HILife
01-05-2011, 06:15 PM
I've heard good things about Don Martindale.

Bring him in. I hear we are looking for a new HC.

listopencil
01-05-2011, 06:23 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but why isn't Gregg Williams being given more love?

Was he the DC in KC when Vermeil was the HC?


Just looked, I must have been thinking of someone else. Williams sounds like a legit prospect.

Boomhauer
01-05-2011, 06:28 PM
Rick Dennison, Eric Mangini and Tom Cable are as good of considerations as Mularkey, Fewell and Williams. Mike Nolan and Jim Harbaugh should be the two top candidates though.

OBF1
01-05-2011, 06:33 PM
Mike Nolan
Rick Dennison

Anyone else surprised these two have yet to be mentioned as potential head coaching candidates?

Not at all

coachmastermind
01-05-2011, 06:36 PM
Elway said something to the effect that there were more candidates but they are awaiting permission to speak with them, so he wouldn't name them. So they may, or may not, be in the mix.

epicSocialism4tw
01-05-2011, 06:37 PM
We need a combination of either a top-notch defensive head coach and a top-notch offensive coordinator or a top-notch offensive head coach with a top-notch defensive coordinator.

bowtown
01-05-2011, 06:39 PM
We need a combination of either a top-notch defensive head coach and a top-notch offensive coordinator or a top-notch offensive head coach with a top-notch defensive coordinator.

Ground breaking stuff...

epicSocialism4tw
01-05-2011, 06:42 PM
Ground breaking stuff...

After last season, there's no telling what the BBT will churn out.

strafen
01-05-2011, 06:49 PM
Mike (Mark) Mularkey
Perry Fewell
Gregg Williams
Eric Studesville
Jim Harbaugh (No interview currently planned)

Of these 4 I would be most ok w/Mularkey- but I'm not overwhelmed w/joy by any means

We set our expectations so high that anything outside Gruden, Harbaugh or Cowher would look depressing.
That's how I see it.
Of the 4 you've mentioned above, Harbaugh is the only one with headcoaching experience that I know of.
We haven't heard a word from inside the Broncos they would go after Harbaugh.

To think that our next HC could be a first-timer just takes the air out of my sail.

We're about to start a total rebuild of this team at all levels; from top to bottom.
It would make sense to me we'd start off with experience at the helm.

I'm not given up we may have at least one big name coach yet to pursue...

jebures
01-05-2011, 06:57 PM
We set our expectations so high that anything outside Gruden, Harbaugh or Cowher would look depressing.
That's how I see it.
Of the 4 you've mentioned above, Harbaugh is the only one with headcoaching experience that I know of.
We haven't heard a word from inside the Broncos they would go after Harbaugh.

To think that our next HC could be a first-timer just takes the air out of my sail.

We're about to start a total rebuild of this team at all levels; from top to bottom.
It would make sense to me we'd start off with experience at the helm.

I'm not given up we may have at least one big name coach yet to pursue...



Mularkey and Williams were both HC'a

Drek
01-05-2011, 06:57 PM
Of the 4 you've mentioned above, Harbaugh is the only one with headcoaching experience that I know of.

Harbaugh is the only guy on that list who hasn't been an NFL HC for at least some duration.

Fewell was the Bills interim HC after Jauron in '09, went 3-4.

Studesville, obviously, here after McDaniels and has gone 1-2.

Mularkey was the HC in Buffalo for two seasons, 9-7 and 5-11. Quit when the GM who hired him was replaced and the FO tried to dictate coaching staff changes to him.

Gregg Williams also was the HC in Buffalo for three seasons, final sum of his record was 17-31.

Common theme: All of them have coached in Buffalo at some point, all but Studesville actually got their HC experience there. Its odd for sure but hey, they've all kicked ass with other teams to earn legitimate second opportunities.

epicSocialism4tw
01-05-2011, 07:01 PM
Harbaugh is the only guy on that list who hasn't been an NFL HC for at least some duration.

Fewell was the Bills interim HC after Jauron in '09, went 3-4.

Studesville, obviously, here after McDaniels and has gone 1-2.

Mularkey was the HC in Buffalo for two seasons, 9-7 and 5-11. Quit when the GM who hired him was replaced and the FO tried to dictate coaching staff changes to him.

Gregg Williams also was the HC in Buffalo for three seasons, final sum of his record was 17-31.

Common theme: All of them have coached in Buffalo at some point, all but Studesville actually got their HC experience there. Its odd for sure but hey, they've all kicked ass with other teams to earn legitimate second opportunities.

Buffalo? Wierd.

What the outlook for Dungy?

TonyR
01-05-2011, 07:06 PM
Of the 4 you've mentioned above, Harbaugh is the only one with headcoaching experience that I know of.

So in other words you really don't know much.

strafen
01-05-2011, 07:07 PM
Harbaugh is the only guy on that list who hasn't been an NFL HC for at least some duration.

Fewell was the Bills interim HC after Jauron in '09, went 3-4.

Studesville, obviously, here after McDaniels and has gone 1-2.

Mularkey was the HC in Buffalo for two seasons, 9-7 and 5-11. Quit when the GM who hired him was replaced and the FO tried to dictate coaching staff changes to him.

Gregg Williams also was the HC in Buffalo for three seasons, final sum of his record was 17-31.

Common theme: All of them have coached in Buffalo at some point, all but Studesville actually got their HC experience there. Its odd for sure but hey, they've all kicked ass with other teams to earn legitimate second opportunities.I verified your story. Thanks for the correction.
I just didn't remember any of those guys ever been a HC for me to have at least been around.
Weird...

Drek
01-05-2011, 07:18 PM
I verified your story. Thanks for the correction.
I just didn't remember any of those guys ever been a HC for me to have at least been around.
Weird...

Thanks for the verification. I'll sleep better at night knowing you now feel secure in the veracity of the information I provided.

Anyway......

The more relevant observation to make here is that all our currently schedule interview candidates are coordinators who have at some point spent at least part of a season as the HC of a team. To me that suggests we aren't, at this point at least, planning to bark up the OC/DC experience only tree while looking for our next guy.

I'm all for this because I still consider McDaniels' biggest failure to be his inability to assemble an elite coaching staff and delegate accordingly.

Back to the original post in this thread: Why would we pursue Dennison when he has no previous HC experience when that is obviously something the search is favoring right now?

And why would we pursue Nolan when the Dolphins have made clear overtures to Cowher and Harbaugh? Sounds like Sporano is out. Nolan is going to need a new job. He was in Denver just a year ago where he was involved with selecting and coaching our current roster. Seems like a real good fit if we go with an offensive HC, no?

Someone like Mike, AKA Marky Mark, Mularkey. A guy who's coming from a job where he had an inverse relationship to this with his HC, defensively oriented Mike Smith. A guy who could bring a highly qualified OC and Colorado native, Bill Musgrave, with him. A guy who also happens to have ties with the Steelers and could probably help Nolan staff his defense with qualified 3-4 assistants as needed.

Just sayin', seems like a real good fit.

OrangenBlueOhio
01-05-2011, 07:39 PM
What about Rich Rod? I know, I know right now he looks like the big idiot, but everyone thought he was a magician for what he did for WVU. The guy likes a mobile QB doesn't he? We could probably get him cheap too, save some money for a good D coordinator.

I realize he probably would'nt be anybody's first pick, but when the jobs start getting filled.... I'd rather take a chance with him than another Mcd type.

Does his style offense fit with Tebow?

broncos-rock
01-05-2011, 07:58 PM
I'm wondering about Rob Ryan(enter foot fetish joke here) it would allow us to keep our current d-coord. and perhaps focus on defense.

Dagmar
01-05-2011, 08:13 PM
mortreport (http://twitter.com/#%21/mortreport) Chris Mortensen



Filed to ESPN: Dolphins owner Steve Ross has traveled west to make an urgent pitch to Jim Harbaugh to become their next coach



We're not getting Harbaugh, we are barely pursuing him it seems.

strafen
01-05-2011, 08:26 PM
What about Rich Rod? I know, I know right now he looks like the big idiot, but everyone thought he was a magician for what he did for WVU. The guy likes a mobile QB doesn't he? We could probably get him cheap too, save some money for a good D coordinator.

I realize he probably would'nt be anybody's first pick, but when the jobs start getting filled.... I'd rather take a chance with him than another Mcd type.

Does his style offense fit with Tebow?

I'll be happy with solid experience at the headcoaching position.
NFL experience and plenty.
That's what I think will be good for us at this point.
We're so far behind the 8-ball, we can't afford to groom a headcoach at this moment

2KBack
01-05-2011, 08:28 PM
We're not getting Harbaugh, we are barely pursuing him it seems.

I like Harbaugh and all, but I would not be pleased to have Denver on their knees begging HC candidates.

This is the Goddamn Denver Broncos, and That is Goddamn John Elway!! Coaches need to recognize!

Mr. Elway
01-05-2011, 10:03 PM
I heard Mark Nolan and Dick Rennison were both in the running.

Mjolnir
01-05-2011, 10:05 PM
Dom Capers - DC of the Packers.

Dukes
01-05-2011, 10:06 PM
Dom Capers - DC of the Packers.

Wasn't he the coach of those terrible Dolphin teams a few years ago?

Mjolnir
01-05-2011, 10:10 PM
Wasn't he the coach of those terrible Dolphin teams a few years ago?

He was the initial coach for both the Texans and the Panthers when both teams joined the league.

epicSocialism4tw
01-05-2011, 10:11 PM
Wasn't he the coach of those terrible Dolphin teams a few years ago?

You're thinking of "The Stache". Dave Wannstedt, who was fired at Pitt this season.

Bronco Boy
01-06-2011, 12:28 AM
What about Rich Rod? I know, I know right now he looks like the big idiot, but everyone thought he was a magician for what he did for WVU. The guy likes a mobile QB doesn't he? We could probably get him cheap too, save some money for a good D coordinator.

I realize he probably would'nt be anybody's first pick, but when the jobs start getting filled.... I'd rather take a chance with him than another Mcd type.

Does his style offense fit with Tebow?

RichRod in the NFL? That would be disastrous.

Pick Six
01-06-2011, 01:39 AM
Mike Nolan? What evidence is there to suggest that he would turn into a good NFL coach?

Dennison? We need experts who can handle the D-LINE, not necessarily the O-Line...

extralife
01-06-2011, 02:40 AM
Mike Nolan is my first choice. Greg Williams is a decent candidate, but I kind of want to know what happened with him in Washington. He was extremely well respected there and the team basically said he was the head coach in waiting for when Gibbs retired, and then he disappeared. Mularkey? Ehhh, never liked his Pittsburgh offenses and the dude quit in Buffalo. I'll pass.

C130Herkload
01-06-2011, 05:07 AM
Rick Dennison, Eric Mangini and Tom Cable are as good of considerations as Mularkey, Fewell and Williams. Mike Nolan and Jim Harbaugh should be the two top candidates though.

Mangini? I may have to go on sabbatical if THAT happens. ugggh.

Kaylore
01-06-2011, 06:14 AM
I like Harbaugh and all, but I would not be pleased to have Denver on their knees begging HC candidates.

This is the Goddamn Denver Broncos, and That is Goddamn John Elway!! Coaches need to recognize!

I kind of agree, though I don't think we should expect people to beg to clean up this mess. I think we need to find a guy who is the right fit, both in plan for the team but personality for the city as well. We don't need a high-profile hire. We need the right hire.

meangene
01-06-2011, 06:50 AM
Omission thus far - Ron Rivera.

TonyR
01-06-2011, 07:01 AM
Omission thus far - Ron Rivera.

I almost get the idea that Rivera might be the kind of guy that doesn't interview well or something. Maybe real low key or something? He's been successful for many years, been a candidate many times, and yet you don't hear his name brought up as much as you'd expect. Maybe the guy just doesn't give off a "head coach" vibe. I'm just speculating here.

2KBack
01-06-2011, 07:31 AM
I kind of agree, though I don't think we should expect people to beg to clean up this mess. I think we need to find a guy who is the right fit, both in plan for the team but personality for the city as well. We don't need a high-profile hire. We need the right hire.

That was half joke, half serious. Denver may be a mess, but this is a proud successful NFL franchise. While I understand that Harbaugh is the Hansel of coaching candidates right now, I would rather not see this franchise lower themselves like Miami is doing. It's the Dan Snyder approach of make a big splash and win the offseason. If it take overpaying and lamenting ones self at the alter of a college coach with minimal credentials, then I say, have fun in Miami.

ShutDownPoster
01-06-2011, 07:50 AM
I almost get the idea that Rivera might be the kind of guy that doesn't interview well or something. Maybe real low key or something? He's been successful for many years, been a candidate many times, and yet you don't hear his name brought up as much as you'd expect. Maybe the guy just doesn't give off a "head coach" vibe. I'm just speculating here.

You mean, like Kubes?

TonyR
01-06-2011, 08:12 AM
You mean, like Kubes?

No, not really. Are you referring to the fact that it took Kubiak several years to get a head coaching job? Did Kubiak have that kind of rep? I don't recall.

Missouribronc
01-06-2011, 08:18 AM
I found it odd that Elway said he wanted to wrap things up in the next two weeks, as far as the coaching search goes, but acknowledged that if the right candidate was on a Super Bowl team, they would wait. Tells me there's a lot of people on that list, or at least that's what I gleaned from those two comments by Elway.

A note on Rivera, I thought I heard one of the reporters specifically ask about him, but I'm not remembering what Elway's response was. Maybe it wasn't Rivera.

Smiling Assassin27
01-06-2011, 08:38 AM
Rick Dennison, Eric Mangini and Tom Cable are as good of considerations as Mularkey, Fewell and Williams. Mike Nolan and Jim Harbaugh should be the two top candidates though.

I don't get the love for Nolan. He's 18-37 as a head coach. Some guys just aren't built to be head coaches--and many of them are D-Coordinators like Son of Bum, Mike Nolan, Singletary, Mangina, et al. Dude will look dapper on the sideline but I don't see what he brings to the table as a HC.

meangene
01-06-2011, 08:49 AM
I almost get the idea that Rivera might be the kind of guy that doesn't interview well or something. Maybe real low key or something? He's been successful for many years, been a candidate many times, and yet you don't hear his name brought up as much as you'd expect. Maybe the guy just doesn't give off a "head coach" vibe. I'm just speculating here.

Yeah, I don't know. I've never really heard him interviewed. Seems like there are a lot of guys like that who wait years to get hired. Leslie Frazier comes to mind. I remember when Marvin Lewis kept getting passed over also. I know one thing - Rivera has been successful in multiple places with multiple schemes. Seems like we are looking more at guys (except for Harbaugh) with NFL head coaching experience so that may be why he is not on our list thus far. I remember hearing Carolina was interviewing him.

bloodsunday
01-06-2011, 08:52 AM
Since we are doing business only with people we know and trust, how about Dan Reeves?

TonyR
01-06-2011, 08:57 AM
...how about Dan Reeves?

Serious? He's 67 years old.

Rohirrim
01-06-2011, 09:00 AM
Serious? He's 67 years old.

How old is Sammy Winder?

strafen
01-06-2011, 09:02 AM
Thanks for the verification. I'll sleep better at night knowing you now feel secure in the veracity of the information I provided.
If it wasn't for the fact that your name consistently shows up on bumped old threads showing how dead wrong you've been on certain issues, I wouldn't had verified the info YOU provided...

crowebomber
01-06-2011, 09:02 AM
Mariucci. He was great in SF and you have to give him a mulligan with Detroit because Millen screwed that up so badly. He would be great with Tebow as Steve Young had a very similar style.

footstepsfrom#27
01-06-2011, 09:02 AM
Rick Dennison, Eric Mangini and Tom Cable are as good of considerations as Mularkey, Fewell and Williams. Mike Nolan and Jim Harbaugh should be the two top candidates though.
Nolan's first stint as HC was not impressive. I've already made it clear why I think Harabaugh's resume is lacking so I won't repeat it, but I'm wondering if anyone's thought to ask TCU's Gary Patterson lately if he's interested in the NFL yet. Patterson's got a far more impeccable pedigree than Harbaugh does. He's been doing it successfully for 10 years at a school that has absolutely no reason to be able to attract major college talent, and he's 25-1 in the last two years including wins over multiple BCS teams with bigger reputations. If I was John Elway, I'd be on the phone with Patterson, not Harbaugh. It's also very possible Patterson doesn't want to coach in the NFL. He has stated how much he likes it at TCU and he turned down $2 million from U of Minnesotta a few years back...still, this is freaking Fort Worthless Texas we're talking about...wouldn't he at least like to maybe take a little trip to Aspen and have dinner on Bowlen? It's worth a shot if they're serious about doing something besides looking for another re-tread or just picking an available NFL assistant who happens to have been present when the team made a playoff run. I'm impressed with more than record, I'm impressed with success over time and whether a guy's clearly been the major reason for a team's success. Patterson clearly fits those criteria in spades.

bloodsunday
01-06-2011, 09:05 AM
Serious? He's 67 years old.

I was kidding. I'm just sick of this good-old-boy-club the Broncos are turning into. Bowlen tried one experiment that blew up on him and now it's shelve anything new. Bowlen's mistake in hiring McD was giving him too much power -- NOT hiring him in the first place.

I am so thankful that Kubiak didn't get fired in Houston.

Drek
01-06-2011, 10:03 AM
If it wasn't for the fact that your name consistently shows up on bumped old threads showing how dead wrong you've been on certain issues, I wouldn't had verified the info YOU provided...

1. I'm sure we'd differ on what we considered 'wrong'.

2. Opinion statements are not the same as factual statements, just an FYI.

3. By all means lets play the thread Jesus game. Rev tries that childish bull**** too. Its a good laugh when the best quotes from me he can come up with directly refute the way he tries to frame my argument. I'm sure you can do better.

4. Trying to argue against someone's accuracy when you just claimed that none of the four HC candidates with interviews schedule have HC experience (when in fact they all do) is absolutely fantastic.

illbroncsfn
01-06-2011, 10:24 AM
I do agree that Ron Rivera would be a quality interview. Got a raw deal in Chicago but has shown he can be successful with both the 3-4 and 4-3 defensive schemes.

strafen
01-06-2011, 12:01 PM
1. I'm sure we'd differ on what we considered 'wrong'.

2. Opinion statements are not the same as factual statements, just an FYI.

3. By all means lets play the thread Jesus game. Rev tries that childish bull**** too. Its a good laugh when the best quotes from me he can come up with directly refute the way he tries to frame my argument. I'm sure you can do better.

4. Trying to argue against someone's accuracy when you just claimed that none of the four HC candidates with interviews schedule have HC experience (when in fact they all do) is absolutely fantastic.Hmm?!
I've said I wasn't sure if they all had HC experience, no?
I've said "that I know of" meaning, "don't quote me on that,"
I admitted I wasn't sure and accepted the correct info.
I didn't pass bad info as fact, did I?
Yeah, thought so too.

You on the other hand always find away to explain away when you're wrong, without admitting you're wrong.
I understant. It takes balls to say I'm wrong. Not everybody can...
Just like you're doing right now... :wave:

Hogan11
01-06-2011, 12:08 PM
I do agree that Ron Rivera would be a quality interview. Got a raw deal in Chicago but has shown he can be successful with both the 3-4 and 4-3 defensive schemes.

He took garbage in SD and turned it around into a top D in less than a year...why he's not on the radar is unfathomable.

If Denver gets another offensive guy in for a HC, this will be justified :garcia:

orange crusher
01-06-2011, 12:15 PM
What's Red Miller doing these days? Maybe he would bring Joe Collier back.

Since second time head coaches do so well, we should also add Dick LeBeau to the list.

Cito Pelon
01-06-2011, 12:24 PM
I think Elway mentioned some guy Rocky Denstill. And something about a Marble Norock.