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KevinJames
12-31-2010, 06:28 PM
How much of an impact does he make on this team well....

we went from 10th in sacks to 32nd in sacks.

Only 18 sacks the whole year compared to 39 last year.....Doom's presence accounts for about 6 wins easily hes that good. CANT WAIT FOR DOOM TO RETURN NEXT YEAR.

Happy New Years OM

orange crusher
12-31-2010, 06:31 PM
He will certainly have an impact on the defense. How much will depend on the defensive scheme and how he comes back from the injury. I'll be stoked to see him out there again. Hopefully, as OLB in the 34.

KevinJames
12-31-2010, 06:34 PM
I got a feeling we are going to have one of the best pass rushes next year this is why we must go after Patrick Peterson and resign Champ Bailey.

KipCorrington25
12-31-2010, 06:38 PM
How many sacks did he have in '08? You can't expect '09 production but he'll have more than the 5 Mario Hagan has this year to lead the team.

Jesterhole
12-31-2010, 06:41 PM
If defensive line isn't he major focus of the overhaul, I'll never buy the team off of Bowlen.

KevinJames
12-31-2010, 06:42 PM
How many sacks did he have in '08? You can't expect '09 production but he'll have more than the 5 Mario Hagan has this year to lead the team.

Different scheme in 2008 and the team really set him up to fail in 2008.

we would be dumb to go back to a 4-3 even tho I think he could dominant in any scheme hes just a tough guy to block he gets off the ball way too quick for most tackles.

snowspot66
12-31-2010, 06:42 PM
How many sacks did he have in '08? You can't expect '09 production but he'll have more than the 5 Mario Hagan has this year to lead the team.

Not many. That was the year of Bob Slowick and the ten yard cushion.

montrose
12-31-2010, 06:43 PM
If we land the 2nd pick, Doom will take a back seat as the Broncos "other" pass rusher because D'Quan Bowers is gonna be an absolute monster.

KevinJames
12-31-2010, 06:45 PM
If we land the 2nd pick, Doom will take a back seat as the Broncos "other" pass rusher because D'Quan Bowers is gonna be an absolute monster.

I guess you didn't watch the game Bowers didn't look that great to me, Bowers is a good player I just think hes been getting over hyped and we would be dumb to take Bowers over Peterson......

Requiem
12-31-2010, 06:48 PM
If we land the 2nd pick, Doom will take a back seat as the Broncos "other" pass rusher because D'Quan Bowers is gonna be an absolute monster.

Assuming we switch to a 4-3, otherwise he wouldn't be on our radar.

broncosteven
12-31-2010, 06:51 PM
How much of an impact does he make on this team well....

we went from 10th in sacks to 32nd in sacks.

Only 18 sacks the whole year compared to 39 last year.....Doom's presence accounts for about 6 wins easily hes that good. CANT WAIT FOR DOOM TO RETURN NEXT YEAR.

Happy New Years OM

Did Popps hijack your account?

KevinJames
12-31-2010, 06:52 PM
Did Popps hijack your account?

Nope just watched some doom highlights thats all, love me some doom :strong:

Assuming we switch to a 4-3, otherwise he wouldn't be on our radar.

Bowers really doesn't fit what we need either way, if we switch to a 4-3 Ayers would be a great DE there.

We can't pass on Peterson. It be like passing on Suh if he was available. Guys like Peterson are guys that don't come around much.

broncosteven
12-31-2010, 06:54 PM
I just saw where John Fox is getting the ax in Carolina.

Wouldn't it be cool to get a solid GM, Fox as DC, an OC who can work with Tebow, a low cost HC who has made a couple stops in his career at different (successful) franchises and have a solid Defensive draft?!

Requiem
12-31-2010, 06:59 PM
Bowers really doesn't fit what we need either way, if we switch to a 4-3 Ayers would be a great DE there.

Sure he is. If we go to a 4-3, Bowers becomes an absolute top tier prospect for us to add to our defensive line. I'm as large of an advocate of Peterson as anybody on these boards, but if we switch schemes, Bowers becomes just as valuable to us as Peterson. He is a phenomenal pass-rusher and player. Just because you think Ayers would be a *great* DE for us, doesn't mean he will be. Bowers is a better player than Ayers, especially at getting after the passer.

Guys like Peterson are guys that don't come around much.

Guys like Bowers don't come around much either as well. You should watch some more Clemson Tiger games.

strafen
12-31-2010, 07:13 PM
Did Popps hijack your account?... Ha!

KevinJames
12-31-2010, 07:15 PM
Sure he is. If we go to a 4-3, Bowers becomes an absolute top tier prospect for us to add to our defensive line. I'm as large of an advocate of Peterson as anybody on these boards, but if we switch schemes, Bowers becomes just as valuable to us as Peterson. He is a phenomenal pass-rusher and player. Just because you think Ayers would be a *great* DE for us, doesn't mean he will be. Bowers is a better player than Ayers, especially at getting after the passer.



Guys like Bowers don't come around much either as well. You should watch some more Clemson Tiger games.

Ive watched plenty of Bowers hes a good player but he lacks that elite first step to warrant a top 5 pick.

orange crusher
12-31-2010, 07:23 PM
I just saw where John Fox is getting the ax in Carolina.

Wouldn't it be cool to get a solid GM, Fox as DC, an OC who can work with Tebow, a low cost HC who has made a couple stops in his career at different (successful) franchises and have a solid Defensive draft?!

Yes on the solid GM. No thanks on Fox as DC as that would probably mean we would be switching back to a 4-3. I've wanted to move to a 3-4 for years. We're not close to have a top defense regardless of whether it is 3-4 or 4-3 but I don't think we're a better fit for the 4-3 with the current team. I'd rather have us build on the 3-4.

broncosteven
12-31-2010, 07:46 PM
Yes on the solid GM. No thanks on Fox as DC as that would probably mean we would be switching back to a 4-3. I've wanted to move to a 3-4 for years. We're not close to have a top defense regardless of whether it is 3-4 or 4-3 but I don't think we're a better fit for the 4-3 with the current team. I'd rather have us build on the 3-4.

I could care less about the scheme than having coaches who can coach up their talent and who could supply experience to a young HC.

I do think we would neuter Doom by going back to the 4-3 but if that also meant a good Defensive draft and the move that would be a better fit for our other 2 LB's then I am all for it.

If we stick with the 3-4 then bring in a 3-4 guru but if we can't get a guy like Wade then I am cool with moving back to a 4-3.

montrose
12-31-2010, 09:18 PM
I guess you didn't watch the game Bowers didn't look that great to me, Bowers is a good player I just think hes been getting over hyped and we would be dumb to take Bowers over Peterson......

I didn't see the game today but I saw enough ACC games to know I wouldnt want any other player in the draft including Luck.Of all fanbases we should have learned our lesson to finally value the front seven before the secondary. Bowers, Doom, Ayers, Haggan and Hunter would be a decent group with DJ, Mays, a newcomer and maybe Larsen back inside.

Hamrob
01-01-2011, 12:47 AM
I want Fairley or Dareus...they can both play the 5 technique or if we go to the 4-3, they can play inside. Bowers is good...and alot of folks including Kiper have him listed at the #2 overall talent in this draft to Luck. But, I just don't see the agressiveness. I watched that Bowl Game and he disapeared.

mhgaffney
01-01-2011, 01:08 AM
We better hope Doom's shoulder/arm is 100%

He needs those long arms to make his moves.

Hulamau
01-01-2011, 08:46 AM
We better hope Doom's shoulder/arm is 100%

He needs those long arms to make his moves.

Not worried there, that pec injury is usually a solid heal with no residual deficit to speak of.

Old Dude
01-01-2011, 10:13 AM
The Chargers will come in here tomorrow and roll over. Denver won't pick any higher than 5th and won't get either Bowers or Peterson.

LonghornBronco
01-01-2011, 10:20 AM
Doom is our stud, we have to stick with the 3-4.

OrangeSe7en
01-01-2011, 10:37 AM
I got a feeling we are going to have one of the best pass rushes next year this is why we must go after Patrick Peterson and resign Champ Bailey.

This is completely backwards. They need pass rush more than they need DBs. Trying to get by with Doom alone is a bad idea.

OrangeSe7en
01-01-2011, 10:39 AM
I want Fairley or Dareus...they can both play the 5 technique or if we go to the 4-3, they can play inside. Bowers is good...and alot of folks including Kiper have him listed at the #2 overall talent in this draft to Luck. But, I just don't see the agressiveness. I watched that Bowl Game and he disapeared.

Not only that but its harder to get pressure up the middle. When you find a guy who can do that, you should take him. It makes a lot of other people better, including Doom.

Mr
01-01-2011, 10:59 AM
Doomsday...
Cant wait.
3-4 all the way.

Play2win
01-01-2011, 11:06 AM
I want Fairley or Dareus...they can both play the 5 technique or if we go to the 4-3, they can play inside. Bowers is good...and alot of folks including Kiper have him listed at the #2 overall talent in this draft to Luck. But, I just don't see the agressiveness. I watched that Bowl Game and he disapeared.

I kept looking for him, but could never find him.

Where's Waldo ?!? Hilarious!

Broncos4tw
01-01-2011, 12:15 PM
Can't wait for him to get back. But realistically, also considering he has been out a year. Might take him a bit to ramp back up, and that's if there are no lingering effects from the injury.

Karenin
01-01-2011, 12:43 PM
How much of an impact does he make on this team well....

we went from 10th in sacks to 32nd in sacks.

Only 18 sacks the whole year compared to 39 last year.....Doom's presence accounts for about 6 wins easily hes that good. CANT WAIT FOR DOOM TO RETURN NEXT YEAR.

Happy New Years OM

no

Beantown Bronco
01-01-2011, 12:50 PM
....Doom's presence accounts for about 6 wins easily hes that good.

Interesting. So it's your position that we would have at least 10 wins today, with the potential for at least 11 tomorrow, if Doom was healthy and playing all year. No other changes at all.

So I guess McD isn't to blame after all.

Cito Pelon
01-01-2011, 12:54 PM
I just saw where John Fox is getting the ax in Carolina.

Wouldn't it be cool to get a solid GM, Fox as DC, an OC who can work with Tebow, a low cost HC who has made a couple stops in his career at different (successful) franchises and have a solid Defensive draft?!

Fox is HC material.

Popps
01-01-2011, 01:08 PM
I'm just hoping we can stick with a 3/4 defense so Doom can shine. I think he's much better suited there and he's our biggest defensive weapon.

Karenin
01-01-2011, 01:22 PM
Interesting. So it's your position that we would have at least 10 wins today, with the potential for at least 11 tomorrow, if Doom was healthy and playing all year. No other changes at all.

So I guess McD isn't to blame after all.

Yea, that was one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Nobody in the NFL is worth 6 wins... MAYBE Peyton Manning, but even that is doubtful.