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BowlenBall
12-30-2010, 07:22 AM
Because I became a Broncos fan in the mid-1980s, I've always liked the idea of having a long-term back-up quarterback, a la Gary Kubiak. Since it seems a very real possibility that Tebow will be the franchise for the next 10 years, I think it would behoove us as an organization to draft and groom the Heir's Spare Apparent -- a player that can grow up with Tebow, meshes well with his style of play, and serves as a good teammate while riding the bench.

If I'm the GM of the Broncos, I'm drafting Colin Kaepernick in the 3rd round -- read the article, and you'll see what I mean:

"He's your All-American kid," Nevada athletic director Cary Groth said. "He's a young man that you're proud to take anywhere. He gets it. He understands what it means to attend a university, to get a degree and to be the star of the football team. I've seen him time after time after time, say, at a women's basketball game, he'll sign autographs and take pictures with kids and adults, and he smiles naturally. It never gets to his head.
"When you've got a kid like him, you've hit the jackpot. And I think we have plenty of them. It comes from Coach (Ault) and keeping him grounded. He's a special young man from a special family. We're blessed to have him at the University of Nevada. He'll be a part of our family for the rest of his life."

http://www.rgj.com/article/20101226/SPORTS06/12260358/1018/sports

SonOfLe-loLang
12-30-2010, 08:37 AM
With all our pressing needs all over the field, you want to use our 3rd rounder on a QB?

BowlenBall
12-30-2010, 08:39 AM
Here's another article on Kaepernick which explicitly mentions Tebow:

"His mechanics need to be fine-tuned,'' said one scouting report. "His wind-up takes a while, as he brings the ball in from a low angle, almost his hip. That may not matter in the WAC, but the NFL is a whole different game.''
Tim Tebow got his share of knocks for the way he threw at Florida. Sunday, Tebow was the starter for the Denver Broncos. What should count is the ability to make plays. The 6-foot-6 Kaepernick has made them for four years.

http://www.realclearsports.com/articles/2010/12/22/nevadas_kaepernick_still_a_secret_97166.html

BowlenBall
12-30-2010, 08:40 AM
With all our pressing needs all over the field, you want to use our 3rd rounder on a QB?

Orton's most likely gone, Brady Quinn has shown less than zero, and Tebow is always one play away from getting injured -- if the first 3-4 picks are all on defense, then why not?

SonOfLe-loLang
12-30-2010, 08:48 AM
Orton's most likely gone, Brady Quinn has shown less than zero, and Tebow is always one play away from getting injured -- if the first 3-4 picks are all on defense, then why not?

Its not necessary to take a project QB in the third round that you view as a lifetime back up. Id rather just go with veterens personally

Cmac821
12-30-2010, 09:17 AM
Its not necessary to take a project QB in the third round that you view as a lifetime back up. Id rather just go with veterens personally

unless it is Ramsey, that guy was awful. I like having a young back-up but since the starter is young it might be better to go veteran that couldn't cause a QB controversy.

ayjackson
12-30-2010, 09:23 AM
I think Quinn's our backup.

But what about the starter? Doesn't anybody think that, especially if we bring in Elway and Harbaugh, we don't try to move our first and Tebow to Carolina for Luck?

I don't think Carolina would unless there were rumblings he wouldn't go to Carolina.

I like Tebow, but I might like Luck a fair bit more.

oubronco
12-30-2010, 09:23 AM
Defense Defense Defense

Cmac821
12-30-2010, 09:39 AM
Defense Defense Defense

:deadhorse

keep at it ;D

Rohirrim
12-30-2010, 10:42 AM
Here's the Nevada player I would rather the Broncos take in the third.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272677

Mediator12
01-05-2011, 08:16 AM
Here's the Nevada player I would rather the Broncos take in the third.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272677

If he makes it to the third round, he is hurt or something happened in the offseason!

BowlenBall
01-05-2011, 09:03 AM
If he makes it to the third round, he is hurt or something happened in the offseason!

Sooooo.... that's who you'll be targeting in the OM Mock Draft this year?:wiggle:

BowlenBall
01-08-2011, 09:53 AM
More on Kaepernick:

“He is a special quarterback. Up until this year he was a thrower; now he’s a passer. There is absolutely no question in my mind we will see him on Sundays. In my mind, he’s that diamond. When the scouts come out and see him, they don’t trade notes when they leave.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view.bg?articleid=1308069&srvc=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bostonherald%2Fsports+%28Spor ts+-+BostonHerald.com%29

OrangeSe7en
01-08-2011, 10:09 AM
Depending on how much he will cost, the Broncos should look into Alex Smith. He comes from the same system as Tebow, is also mobile, and is incredibly intelligent. If Tebow were to get hurt, the offense wouldnt have to drastically change if Alex Smith is the backup.

BowlenBall
01-08-2011, 10:38 AM
Depending on how much he will cost, the Broncos should look into Alex Smith. He comes from the same system as Tebow, is also mobile, and is incredibly intelligent. If Tebow were to get hurt, the offense wouldnt have to drastically change if Alex Smith is the backup.

I'll cosign that! He can probably be had for Chris Simms-type money, around $2 - 2.5 million per year....

BowlenBall
01-28-2011, 06:32 AM
Not to toot my own talent-evaluating horn, but....

ProFootballTalk NBC Sports
Posted by Evan Silva on January 27, 2011, 3:44 PM EST

In 2006, Jay Cutler took the Senior Bowl practice field after starting all four years at Vanderbilt. In his final start, Cutler engineered a 28-24 upset of Tennessee, giving the Commodores their first victory over the Vols in 15 years. Observers knew of Cutler’s impressive arm and athleticism, but he lacked a high profile because Vandy didn’t win much.

Cutler went on to blow away scouts in Mobile with his quick release, accuracy, and arm power. He earned the Senior Bowl start for the North squad, winning 31-14. Three months later, Cutler was selected with the 11th pick in the draft.
In 2011, Nevada quarterback Colin Kaepernick took the Senior Bowl practice field as a four-year college starter coming off impressive wins over undefeated Boise State and Boston College in the Fight Hunger Bowl.

Observers knew Kaepernick could throw a baseball 95 mph and was a former Cubs draft pick. They also knew of Kaepernick’s athleticism. He averaged 6.85 yards per college rushing attempt, joining Missouri’s Brad Smith as the only players in NCAA history to top 8,000 yards passing and 4,000 rushing. Onlookers questioned Kaepernick’s ability to play in a pro-style offense coming from Nevada coach Chris Ault’s pistol spread.

Like Cutler in ’06, Kaepernick appears to have silenced doubters.
According to FOX Sports’ Adam Caplan, Kaepernick was “great” on Monday and “by far” the best quarterback in practice on Wednesday. CBS’ Rob Rang noted Kaepernick’s “spectacular” arm strength. Rotoworld’s Michael Schottey observed that Kaepernick “threw the ball as well as anyone,” generating “buzz from team scouts.”

Asked about more heralded Washington QB Jake Locker, NFL.com’s Pat Kirwan replied “The kid from Nevada … has shined on top of him a little bit.”
Of course, NFL Network’s Mike Mayock already knew about Kaepernick’s “huge” arm. At the 2010 Manning Quarterback camp, Mayock recalled seeing Eli and Peyton so awed they were “giggling” about the 23-year-old’s howitzer. Said Mayock after watching one of Kaepernick’s Thursday throws, “Did you see the RPMs there? Man, I’d love to work with that kid.”
Kaepernick entered the Senior Bowl with a middle-round projection. Could he make a Cutler-like jump into the first round?
The arrow seems to point in that direction.

In Tony Pauline of SI.com’s blog, Kaepernick is already suggested as second-round prospect while reportedly drawing significant interest from the Dolphins and Vikings. Citing a league source, the Palm Beach Post seconds Pauline’s report in saying the Dolphins “think very highly” of Kaepernick.
The Sacramento Bee‘s Matt Barrows capped it with this clincher:
“One scout told me (Kaepernick) might have made the most money of any Senior Bowl player this week.”

I say that if he's there with our 3rd-round pick, we pull the trigger and be set at back-up QB for the next 4-5 years....

RocBronc
01-28-2011, 07:21 AM
With this buzz, the chance of him being there even early in the 3rd round is essentially nil...

BowlenBall
01-28-2011, 07:48 AM
With this buzz, the chance of him being there even early in the 3rd round is essentially nil...

Yeah... unfortunately, you're right. Thought there was a real good chance of getting him on the cheap a few weeks ago, but not anymore.

The funny thing is, I'd be pretty pissed if we took him with one of our 2nd rounders, given how many needs we've got on defense. But like I said, if he's still there in the early 3rd, go ahead and pull the trigger.

oubronco
01-28-2011, 12:24 PM
<TABLE class=s_playerNewsTable border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND: #000000" class=s_playerNewsTitle><TABLE class=s_playerNewsTitle cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD align=left> Kaepernick's stock soaring after Senior Bowl (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=6530)</TD><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 10px" align=right></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TD style="BACKGROUND: #000000" width=14>http://www.rotoworld.com/images/right_corner_player_news.gif</TD><TD width=6>http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gif</TD><TD class=s_playerNewsLeftBorder>http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gif</TD><TD class=s_playerNewsText>After watching Colin Kaepernick in Mobile, FOX Sports' Adam Caplan believes the Nevada quarterback has a chance to be drafted in the first round.
According to Caplan, Kaepernick was "clearly the best quarterback out of the six (on both Senior Bowl squads) and it's not even close." Kaepernick is picking up steam as a mid to late first-rounder in a rise similar to Jay Cutler's in 2006 and perhaps Josh Freeman's in 2009. Said NFL Network's Mike Mayock after seeing Kaepernick throw, "It's like watching Nolan Ryan." Jan. 28 - 1:35 pm et
Source: FOX Sports (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Ranking-the-Senior-Bowl-quarterbacks-012811)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

primetime714
01-28-2011, 12:31 PM
Not that I expected us to draft a QB but it looks like Kaepernick is rising out of our range. Personally I'm pretty ok with Brady Quinn as our backup. He's not very good, but a backup QB is something you worry about when you're winning or when you're looking for a new starter. Unless the team is unsure about Tebow and wants to start looking for a potential replacement now I see no reason to use any significant resources on the backup QB spot.

iforgotmypassword
01-30-2011, 08:58 PM
I like the idea. But i like Quinn as a backup soooo Mathews with that 3rd.

Tombstone RJ
02-11-2011, 01:02 PM
sounds like he's a really good kid and perhaps too talented to sit on the bench. The Broncos have a back up in Quinn already.

BowlenBall
02-28-2011, 10:53 AM
sounds like he's a really good kid and perhaps too talented to sit on the bench. The Broncos have a back up in Quinn already.

Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for what... 4 years? And given that Tebow's playing style lends itself to lots of bumps and bruises, we may need some quality depth there.

Personally, I think that if he's there for our 3rd round pick, we should go for it (but I think he'll go in the high 2nd).

BroncoMan4ever
02-28-2011, 03:31 PM
if we take a QB in the 3rd round i am going to want to punch a baby

thumpc
03-03-2011, 06:45 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81e989b7/QBs-under-the-radar

He's worth a low 2nd.

ZONA
03-03-2011, 09:45 PM
A QB in the 3rd when you already have Orton and Tebow and one of the most horrible defenses in the league that is getting older by the second.

NO WAY - not this year anyway.

Defense, Defense, Defense, Defense, Defense........and so on.

errand
03-07-2011, 06:44 AM
Not to toot my own talent-evaluating horn, but....

ProFootballTalk NBC Sports
Posted by Evan Silva on January 27, 2011, 3:44 PM EST

In 2006, Jay Cutler took the Senior Bowl practice field after starting all four years at Vanderbilt. In his final start, Cutler engineered a 28-24 upset of Tennessee, giving the Commodores their first victory over the Vols in 15 years. Observers knew of Cutler’s impressive arm and athleticism, but he lacked a high profile because Vandy didn’t win much.

Cutler went on to blow away scouts in Mobile with his quick release, accuracy, and arm power. He earned the Senior Bowl start for the North squad, winning 31-14. Three months later, Cutler was selected with the 11th pick in the draft.
In 2011, Nevada quarterback Colin Kaepernick took the Senior Bowl practice field as a four-year college starter coming off impressive wins over undefeated Boise State and Boston College in the Fight Hunger Bowl.

Observers knew Kaepernick could throw a baseball 95 mph and was a former Cubs draft pick. They also knew of Kaepernick’s athleticism. He averaged 6.85 yards per college rushing attempt, joining Missouri’s Brad Smith as the only players in NCAA history to top 8,000 yards passing and 4,000 rushing. Onlookers questioned Kaepernick’s ability to play in a pro-style offense coming from Nevada coach Chris Ault’s pistol spread.

Like Cutler in ’06, Kaepernick appears to have silenced doubters.
According to FOX Sports’ Adam Caplan, Kaepernick was “great” on Monday and “by far” the best quarterback in practice on Wednesday. CBS’ Rob Rang noted Kaepernick’s “spectacular” arm strength. Rotoworld’s Michael Schottey observed that Kaepernick “threw the ball as well as anyone,” generating “buzz from team scouts.”

Asked about more heralded Washington QB Jake Locker, NFL.com’s Pat Kirwan replied “The kid from Nevada … has shined on top of him a little bit.”
Of course, NFL Network’s Mike Mayock already knew about Kaepernick’s “huge” arm. At the 2010 Manning Quarterback camp, Mayock recalled seeing Eli and Peyton so awed they were “giggling” about the 23-year-old’s howitzer. Said Mayock after watching one of Kaepernick’s Thursday throws, “Did you see the RPMs there? Man, I’d love to work with that kid.”
Kaepernick entered the Senior Bowl with a middle-round projection. Could he make a Cutler-like jump into the first round?
The arrow seems to point in that direction.

In Tony Pauline of SI.com’s blog, Kaepernick is already suggested as second-round prospect while reportedly drawing significant interest from the Dolphins and Vikings. Citing a league source, the Palm Beach Post seconds Pauline’s report in saying the Dolphins “think very highly” of Kaepernick.
The Sacramento Bee‘s Matt Barrows capped it with this clincher:
“One scout told me (Kaepernick) might have made the most money of any Senior Bowl player this week.”

I say that if he's there with our 3rd-round pick, we pull the trigger and be set at back-up QB for the next 4-5 years....

You don't spend a day one pick on a career back-up. You wanna guy that'll be a good back-up and hold the fort for you, look at guys like Sage Rosenfels, or Ryan Fitzpatrick...veteran guys who can wina game or two for you until the franchise comes back. If Orton is sent packing and Tebow is our guy, then we'd more than likely get a veteran who can come in and play well, and then goes back to holding a clipboard.

errand
03-07-2011, 06:46 AM
BTW...Andre Ware, Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, and Akili Smith were given the same glowing reviews at one time or another by these so-called "experts"

errand
03-07-2011, 06:50 AM
Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for what... 4 years? And given that Tebow's playing style lends itself to lots of bumps and bruises, we may need some quality depth there.

Personally, I think that if he's there for our 3rd round pick, we should go for it (but I think he'll go in the high 2nd).

Rodgers also had a living legend in Brett Favre starting ahead of him too.....

I'm sure the kid's a good player and will do fine in the NFL like they say he will....then again they said the same thing about alot of QB's who are currently defaulting on their mansions in Oakland

errand
03-07-2011, 06:53 AM
on a side note I find the love for Quinn to remain as our back-up vexing.

TheReverend
03-09-2011, 06:21 AM
Or we could just attempt to develop Brady Quinn for free...

decar1
03-10-2011, 09:58 PM
Valid point about the QB position, but could the concerns be with the offensive line? I’m glad they resigned Daniels – he’s got the size and strength the team needs to create some spaces for the running game. Especially if Tebow really is the #1...with all of his college spread influence and a healthy Knowshon Moreno, the Broncos could develop a surprising run attack. BTW, did you see that video Daniels did for sickle cell disease (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx76-1k3Ubc)? Didn't know he had any ties to that. Anyway, I’m thinking we’ll take a DT in our early pick but I want to know what’s going to happen with the offense.

Drek
03-11-2011, 04:17 AM
on a side note I find the love for Quinn to remain as our back-up vexing.

He's got a lot of natural talent and he's young. Quinn's problems are mostly between his ears. You fix those problems and put him in an offense where he isn't asked to carry a bad team and he's probably not a bad QB. Definitely good enough to be a backup for Tebow.

broncogary
03-11-2011, 05:43 AM
sounds like he's a really good kid and perhaps too talented to sit on the bench. The Broncos have a back up in Quinn already.

We need to bring back Chris Simms to compete with Quinn. I think it would be a pretty close competition.