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lostknight
12-25-2010, 08:41 PM
Judging by the expectation thread last week, Tebow blew all of our expectations away. Looking at the amazing write up posted earlier on the breakdown of Tebow plays, it actually looks like Tebow was more effective out of the "Jumbo" packages that they had run with Tebow, and also with Orton in the first 15 scripted plays.

So now for week two, what do you want to see from Tebow? I still anticipate a few interceptions. Houston has a porous secondary, and they will be trying to rattle Tebow all game long. I want to see him make mistakes, because I want to see how fast he responds.

So my expectations are 3tds (rushing+passing), 2 interceptions.

Los Broncos
12-25-2010, 08:44 PM
I would like to see more passing plays called, we know he can run.

His deep ball is fun to watch, hopefully we don't get into to many 3rd and longs.

Archer81
12-25-2010, 09:11 PM
Allowing Tebow to audible into a pass play when the defense dictates it.


:Broncos:

yerner
12-25-2010, 09:17 PM
stand in the pocket and deliver the ball. not this college football gameplan bs.

IHaveALight
12-25-2010, 09:22 PM
The stats aren’t that important to me.
I want to see Tebow lead this team to a win tomorrow.

ZONA
12-25-2010, 09:24 PM
The Broncos aren't going to the playoffs so essentially, you are trying to see just what Tebow can give you and where he's at with his development. Obviously the guy can run and that's always going to be a big part of his game. I think they still need to call a few runs for him. But I'd like to see the Broncos give him the chance to make alot of different throws. More deep outs, some time routes, some check downs, a few slants and throw in a few fly's. Then let him have some fun out there also. Throw in a naked bootleg.

broncocalijohn
12-25-2010, 09:26 PM
A win first. I want him to be able to open up the playbook and see what we have an a passing QB. I already know he can run, but can he pass more than 16 opps?

Cmac821
12-25-2010, 09:47 PM
I also want to see Tebow let off the leash and play a real game, 30+ passes. I expect at least one int, hopefully a tip ball. Other than that I hope to see the foundation of a quality starter developing.

13 guest! Guess some lurkers want to remain anonymous

scttgrd
12-25-2010, 09:58 PM
I hate to disagree, what is needed is a loss. No matter what happens, this season is done. Get the best draft pick they can, and decide from there. May not be popular, but it's what's best for the franchise going forward. Deciding on Tebow will happen in the offseason.

SonOfLe-loLang
12-25-2010, 10:01 PM
I hate to disagree, what is needed is a loss. No matter what happens, this season is done. Get the best draft pick they can, and decide from there. May not be popular, but it's what's best for the franchise going forward. Deciding on Tebow will happen in the offseason.

This is dumb...there wont be too much diff between the 2nd and 8th pick. I'd, as a fan, would love to see Tim lead the broncos to victory and prove he can be the future.

scttgrd
12-25-2010, 10:14 PM
This is dumb...there wont be too much diff between the 2nd and 8th pick. I'd, as a fan, would love to see Tim lead the broncos to victory and prove he can be the future.

I'm sure you would, it would be nice. But having the pick that can get this team nearly any player available, versus the guy that falls to the right number outweighs a meaningless win at the end of a lousy season.

Hollow victories are the kind of thing that keep hope alive, and picks out of the top five.

TD4HOF
12-25-2010, 10:35 PM
I hate to disagree, what is needed is a loss. No matter what happens, this season is done. Get the best draft pick they can, and decide from there. May not be popular, but it's what's best for the franchise going forward. Deciding on Tebow will happen in the offseason.

Horrendous karma, just terrible. NO! You play to win and Tebow cuts his teeth with a "oh geez, this guy's underrated" W-I-N! We tank and whoever we take sucks! I hope they suck, I'm serious, if they're tanking, let the pick suck. Hell with that.

cabronco
12-25-2010, 10:44 PM
I'd like to see Tebow be unleashed to make some of the tougher throws, like the intermediate to long out patterns, a couple seam routes, the ones that scouts say are the toughest ones for NFL qb's( I dont know many as Im no expert). But then see T.T. lead this team by putting more points on the board all the way up til early 4th qrtr. Then rest him and let Quinn come in to allow the opposing team to catch up and win. So we stay in contention for the 1st or 2nd pick ! Woot

Archer81
12-25-2010, 10:49 PM
I'd rather win then purposely tank to secure the 2nd pick overall. Thats just me though.


:Broncos:

McDman
12-25-2010, 10:53 PM
I want to see more short to intermediate throws. We knnow he can throw the deep ball, now I want to see his accuracy when he has to fit it inside small windows.

epicSocialism4tw
12-25-2010, 10:54 PM
The Broncos aren't going to the playoffs so essentially, you are trying to see just what Tebow can give you and where he's at with his development. Obviously the guy can run and that's always going to be a big part of his game. I think they still need to call a few runs for him. But I'd like to see the Broncos give him the chance to make alot of different throws. More deep outs, some time routes, some check downs, a few slants and throw in a few fly's. Then let him have some fun out there also. Throw in a naked bootleg.

Sounds awesome. Just about everything you mentioned sounds great.

Hamrob
12-25-2010, 10:56 PM
For me I'd like to see 60% passing and 7.5 yds per pass for 200+ yds. And, I'd like for us to score more than 21 pts. offensively. Yes, he's bound to throw a int or two. But let the kid throw the ball. I'd like to see him make all the throws.

epicSocialism4tw
12-25-2010, 10:59 PM
For me I'd like to see 60% passing and 7.5 yds per pass for 200+ yds. And, I'd like for us to score more than 21 pts. offensively. Yes, he's bound to throw a int or two. But let the kid throw the ball. I'd like to see him make all the throws.

You do realize that Sam Bradford still has handcuffs on too, right?

Pony Boy
12-25-2010, 11:21 PM
Leap tall buildings would be nice....

RhymesayersDU
12-26-2010, 12:02 AM
I'm sure you would, it would be nice. But having the pick that can get this team nearly any player available, versus the guy that falls to the right number outweighs a meaningless win at the end of a lousy season.

Hollow victories are the kind of thing that keep hope alive, and picks out of the top five.

I agree... to a point. For me, tomorrow at 2 PM, I'm rooting for a win. However, will I be heartbroken with a loss? No way. Because we do need the better draft pick. Kind of a weird place to be in. I can't root for us to lose, but it would be way more beneficial.

As for Timmy T, wins or losses don't matter, especially with the horrendous defense we're rolling out there. Just want to see the guy throw the ball.

footstepsfrom#27
12-26-2010, 01:18 AM
The stats aren’t that important to me.
I want to see Tebow lead this team to a win tomorrow.
Anything but this.

footstepsfrom#27
12-26-2010, 01:21 AM
Horrendous karma, just terrible. NO! You play to win and Tebow cuts his teeth with a "oh geez, this guy's underrated" W-I-N! We tank and whoever we take sucks! I hope they suck, I'm serious, if they're tanking, let the pick suck. Hell with that.
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The MVPlaya
12-26-2010, 01:27 AM
I don't expect ****, considering how ****ty our staff is.

Chris
12-26-2010, 03:18 AM
A win.

HAT
12-26-2010, 04:00 AM
QB draws......Lots of 'em.

AZorange1
12-26-2010, 04:12 AM
For Tebow to get one or (yes) even two wins to finish the season would have a huge impact on the fan base and far outweigh the miniscule difference between the 3 rd, 4th or 5th pick in the draft.

driver
12-26-2010, 04:45 AM
I would like to see more passing plays called, we know he can run.

His deep ball is fun to watch, hopefully we don't get into to many 3rd and longs.

Seem like we've been in third and long all year.

As for this "tank" bs, anybody want to tell me if they've ever seen Tebow give up on even 1 play in his college career? I've never seen him not trying on a single play, EVER! He is a leader that is what he bring's to the table.
He would've been a great Ranger.

lostknight
12-26-2010, 05:09 AM
There has been a lot of bitching about the "handcuffs" and it mostly has to do with Tebow performing better then the coaching staff antcipated. But one of the reason it was better then the coaching staff anticipated was because of the hadcuffs.

Remember that in Plummer's 2005 and in Cutler's pro-bowl year both of them were operating under severely limited handcuffs (restricted playbooks) to compensate for various issues.

What's really interesting is when you look at what plays looked very good in that wonderful detailed write up, it was base packages, not the Jumbo packages Tebow had previously worked on - and that the vast majority of the successful 1st quarter drives Orton had worked out of.

Partially it's because it was so successful, other teams started compensating for it.

One more really ironic note. I firmly believe that if Josh had seen what New England was doing with Tight Ends this season, he would not have traded Scheffler, and this team would have had a huge boost in it's offense by having a TE threat up the middle.

The MVPlaya
12-26-2010, 05:19 AM
One more really ironic note. I firmly believe that if Josh had seen what New England was doing with Tight Ends this season, he would not have traded Scheffler, and this team would have had a huge boost in it's offense by having a TE threat up the middle.

Really? The TE's in NE can block. Scheffler cannot. He is not a mediocre blocker. He is a HORRIBLE blocker.

And would you really want a guy on your team that tells his teammates that he can't wait for the season to be done in the mist of a playoff race?

Maequez Branson was looking real nice until he got injured. A receiving TE that lined up in the back field and on running plays.

It seems as if the memory on these forums don't go back too far.

go_broncos
12-26-2010, 05:28 AM
Hopefully, our great coaches allows him to pass the ball more.
It's difficult to judge a QB if he throws only 16 pases.

lostknight
12-26-2010, 05:30 AM
Really? The TE's in NE can block. Scheffler cannot. He is not a mediocre blocker. He is a HORRIBLE blocker.

And would you really want a guy on your team that tells his teammates that he can't wait for the season to be done in the mist of a playoff race?

Maequez Branson was looking real nice until he got injured. A receiving TE that lined up in the back field and on running plays.

It seems as if the memory on these forums don't go back too far.

Have you actually watched a NE game with the new TE's? Go check it out, they do far less blocking, and far more slips out in converage now.

I knew that this would piss at least one of the McDanielites off. If I was treated the way Tony was last year, I would want the season over as well.

My memory goes back before Josh, and I saw a TE that consistently made plays when challenged against a TE under a HC that used TE's effectivly as offensive weapons. Then I saw a HC that had very little use for TEs other then blocking. Now I see a replacement OC in New England who uses TE's primarily as offensive weapons, and blockers second.

And all of a sudden NE is back to it's dynamic self.

Branson has never impressed me.

Graham's been overrated since day one,.

Again, if Josh had seen what NE had done, he might have paid more attention to this position, and we would be in a much better place,.

dsmoot
12-26-2010, 06:01 AM
The Broncos aren't going to the playoffs so essentially, you are trying to see just what Tebow can give you and where he's at with his development. Obviously the guy can run and that's always going to be a big part of his game. I think they still need to call a few runs for him. But I'd like to see the Broncos give him the chance to make alot of different throws. More deep outs, some time routes, some check downs, a few slants and throw in a few fly's. Then let him have some fun out there also. Throw in a naked bootleg.

I agree. Play to his strengths but lets see what coaches want to see on a pro day. Variety. Commitment to run (by someone else). How about some slants.

Spider
12-26-2010, 06:26 AM
do what Tebow can handle , what ever he is comfortable doin ...........

titan
12-26-2010, 07:54 AM
I hate to disagree, what is needed is a loss. No matter what happens, this season is done. Get the best draft pick they can, and decide from there. May not be popular, but it's what's best for the franchise going forward. Deciding on Tebow will happen in the offseason.

If I take the long term view I have to agree with you. I think back to January 2, 1983 to one of the most significant games in Bronco history, though no one realized it at the time.

The 2-6 Broncos in a strike shortened season were playing the Seattle Seahawks in the finale. The Broncos had an 11-6 lead late in the 4th quarter when they allowed the Seahawks to score the clinching touchdown in the last two minutes (final score: Seattle 13, Broncos 11).

If the Broncos win that game, they don't draft high enough to take Chris Hinton, and the Elway trade in the subsequent offseason probably doesn't happen. Colts owner Robert Irsay at the time said getting Hinton from the Broncos was a key part of the Elway trade.

Today's game is a little different than that 1982 game in that the Broncos have to find out what they have in Tebow. Whether he's the long term answer at quarterback. I personally think unless Tebow totally wows us in the last two games, the Broncos need to do everything they can to get Andrew Luck. Like in 1982, even if they don't have the #1 pick, picking early in round one will increase their trade leverage.

I'm still going to root for Tebow and the Broncos to do well today, but long term a loss may be better for the franchise.

rugbythug
12-26-2010, 08:33 AM
If I take the long term view I have to agree with you. I think back to January 2, 1983 to one of the most significant games in Bronco history, though no one realized it at the time.

The 2-6 Broncos in a strike shortened season were playing the Seattle Seahawks in the finale. The Broncos had an 11-6 lead late in the 4th quarter when they allowed the Seahawks to score the clinching touchdown in the last two minutes (final score: Seattle 13, Broncos 11).

If the Broncos win that game, they don't draft high enough to take Chris Hinton, and the Elway trade in the subsequent offseason probably doesn't happen. Colts owner Robert Irsay at the time said getting Hinton from the Broncos was a key part of the Elway trade.

Today's game is a little different than that 1982 game in that the Broncos have to find out what they have in Tebow. Whether he's the long term answer at quarterback. I personally think unless Tebow totally wows us in the last two games, the Broncos need to do everything they can to get Andrew Luck. Like in 1982, even if they don't have the #1 pick, picking early in round one will increase their trade leverage.

I'm still going to root for Tebow and the Broncos to do well today, but long term a loss may be better for the franchise.

It won't matter. We could give up the farm and they still would not trade. I doubt Tebow and 2 #1's would get it done. And I know we are not a good enough team to give any more than that.

Premier-Ace55
12-26-2010, 09:44 AM
I would lilke to see him throw more intermediate passes, crossing routes come backs etc. in coverage. Just like a new car like to see what he do give us an idea on where we need to go in the offseason.

gobroncos313
12-26-2010, 10:04 AM
I will say this, for many people on these boards and many in the media anything less than the following and Tebow will showcase how big of a bust he is:

30 completions
35 Attempts
400+ yards passing
5 TD's passing
0 TD's rushing (This is actually an indicator of how bad a QB his is, the more rushing TD's the worse of an NFL QB he is)
0 Interceptions
0 Rushing Yards (Same rule as rushing TD's apply here)
0 Sacks

Anything less than this will just be chalked up to how much of a project he is.

As for me I want to see in the following order:

1. A win with more than 24 points put up by our offense.
2. A completion percentage of over 60% on at least 25 attempts.
3. A 60% plus conversion rate on 3rd downs.
4. Less than 2 interceptions.
5. TD's when inside the 30 not field goals.

colonelbeef
12-26-2010, 10:11 AM
Continue to hit guys in stride, good selling of the play action, and a quick release.

Also want to see him be unafraid to run when necessary, but to take less punishment and know when to step out of bounds or slide.

waz06
12-26-2010, 10:26 AM
A win, **** the draft picks

footstepsfrom#27
12-26-2010, 10:34 AM
For Tebow to get one or (yes) even two wins to finish the season would have a huge impact on the fan base and far outweigh the miniscule difference between the 3 rd, 4th or 5th pick in the draft.
Wrong. Two weeks from now, NOBODY will care about one or two measly insignificant wins at the end of this lost season, but you can bet we'll know EXACTLY what we missed if we wind up missing out on a guy like Peterson for a lesser player.

Cool Breeze
12-26-2010, 11:20 AM
From Tebow I would like to see a QB that gets his team to rally behind him and plays greater than the sum of their parts.
Win or lose - growth, ability, consistency, attitude and desire. Basically hope for the future...

TDmvp
12-26-2010, 11:23 AM
I will say this, for many people on these boards and many in the media anything less than the following and Tebow will showcase how big of a bust he is:

30 completions
35 Attempts
400+ yards passing
5 TD's passing
0 TD's rushing (This is actually an indicator of how bad a QB his is, the more rushing TD's the worse of an NFL QB he is)
0 Interceptions
0 Rushing Yards (Same rule as rushing TD's apply here)
0 Sacks

Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

100 post rule please , because that was one stupid post.

Jetmeck
12-26-2010, 11:24 AM
Really? The TE's in NE can block. Scheffler cannot. He is not a mediocre blocker. He is a HORRIBLE blocker.

And would you really want a guy on your team that tells his teammates that he can't wait for the season to be done in the mist of a playoff race?

Maequez Branson was looking real nice until he got injured. A receiving TE that lined up in the back field and on running plays.

It seems as if the memory on these forums don't go back too far.

Your an ass as usual. Well guess what bonehead.....NE's Tight ends are a big part of the passing game there. Meanwhile our TEs couldn't catch a cold ...........

Cool Breeze
12-26-2010, 11:27 AM
The Texans rank last in pass defense with 275.1 yards a game - Lets see what Tebow can do!

Jetmeck
12-26-2010, 11:32 AM
the texans rank last in pass defense with 275.1 yards a game - lets see what tebow can do!

+1

epicSocialism4tw
12-26-2010, 11:39 AM
This is what I think that Tebow will have:

16/26 for 200 yards passing with 2 TD's and 2 picks

50 yards rushing with 1 TD

1 fumble lost

Broncos win

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And I think that that would be a decent outing for a rookie in his second game.

footstepsfrom#27
12-26-2010, 11:39 AM
The Texans rank last in pass defense with 275.1 yards a game - Lets see what Tebow can do!
So if he lights it up then the haters will complain it came against a bad defense.

epicSocialism4tw
12-26-2010, 11:40 AM
So if he lights it up then the haters will complain it came against a bad defense.

The haters are already entrenched.

They will remain that way even if Tebow leads the Broncos back to the playoffs.

Some little faux pas of his will become "the problem". The Broncos will lose the AFC championship game even though Tebow plays well, and it wont be good enough because his throwing motion is weird.

Jesterhole
12-26-2010, 12:11 PM
I expect him to win the Super Bowl today...

BowlenBall
12-26-2010, 12:16 PM
What do I want from Tebow today?

1) Some good throws;

2) Some inspiration

Tim
12-26-2010, 12:17 PM
a game winning drive

epicSocialism4tw
12-26-2010, 12:17 PM
What do I want from Tebow today?

1) Some good throws;

2) Some inspiration

I think thats about what any fan should expect.

And you even have money on the guy.

BowlenBall
12-26-2010, 12:20 PM
I think thats about what any fan should expect.

And you even have money on the guy.

Oh yeah... I forgot about that.

Never mind... I'll go with the 400+ yards and 5 touchdowns....

epicSocialism4tw
12-26-2010, 12:24 PM
Oh yeah... I forgot about that.

Never mind... I'll go with the 400+ yards and 5 touchdowns....

Ha!

:thumbsup:

Sim Pilot 4.0
12-26-2010, 12:29 PM
Judging by the expectation thread last week, Tebow blew all of our expectations away. Looking at the amazing write up posted earlier on the breakdown of Tebow plays, it actually looks like Tebow was more effective out of the "Jumbo" packages that they had run with Tebow, and also with Orton in the first 15 scripted plays.

So now for week two, what do you want to see from Tebow? I still anticipate a few interceptions. Houston has a porous secondary, and they will be trying to rattle Tebow all game long. I want to see him make mistakes, because I want to see how fast he responds.

So my expectations are 3tds (rushing+passing), 2 interceptions.

I expect to see a lot of camera shots of him on the sideline with a QB coach going over still shots explaining why he can't throw high arching passes. I also expect to see him scramble and be reckless taking unnecessary hits. He likes to compete and I think he will be pressing this week. Unfortunately he will play poorly this week.

epicSocialism4tw
12-26-2010, 04:33 PM
a game winning drive

You got it! :strong:

broncocalijohn
12-26-2010, 04:55 PM
Wrong. Two weeks from now, NOBODY will care about one or two measly insignificant wins at the end of this lost season, but you can bet we'll know EXACTLY what we missed if we wind up missing out on a guy like Peterson for a lesser player.

Complete BS and I wonder if you were actually pissed we won today. By Tebow having two great games in a row shows that we wont have to waste a #1 draft pick on a QB and save it for what we really need and that is defense. Bigger test versus SD and I wish they were still in the playoff hunt so they would play their A game. This is exactly what was needed. If we lost at the end, we still got to see what Tebow can do but the win for me was icing on the cake. If we slip to #5, there is still going to be some awesome players that we will need so enjoy the win and knowing that Tebow might be the guy for the Broncos to start in 2011. As for Orton, he either comes in during training camp or is traded for more picks (or a nice trade for defense) in April.

Archer81
12-26-2010, 05:13 PM
I expect to see a lot of camera shots of him on the sideline with a QB coach going over still shots explaining why he can't throw high arching passes. I also expect to see him scramble and be reckless taking unnecessary hits. He likes to compete and I think he will be pressing this week. Unfortunately he will play poorly this week.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...


Sorry. Reading this after the game just made me giggle.

:Broncos:

broncocalijohn
12-26-2010, 05:15 PM
Horrendous karma, just terrible. NO! You play to win and Tebow cuts his teeth with a "oh geez, this guy's underrated" W-I-N! We tank and whoever we take sucks! I hope they suck, I'm serious, if they're tanking, let the pick suck. Hell with that.
Tony Mandarich approves of your post.
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Ryan Clady approves of our win against the Vikings to fall back a few draft slots and take him. Seems we won the last “meaningless” game and still came out with a great pick.

TD4HOF
12-26-2010, 05:24 PM
<o:p> </o:p>
Ryan Clady approves of our win against the Vikings to fall back a few draft slots and take him. Seems we won the last “meaningless” game and still came out with a great pick.

Awesome tie up, Sir.

It's funny, if the D had broken on the last drive, I would've been CRUSHED! I mean really disappointed. Why? Tebow already had a great game. Better draft pick, right? Hilarious!

Every step as a squad on the field counts. The entire team took a huge one today. They all know who their leader on offense will be next year. For better or for worse. Means so much more than a couple spots in a draft.

Who knows, maybe Champ is going, hmmmmm....this Tebow fella might keep me around and happy.