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Tombstone RJ
12-22-2010, 09:08 AM
I heard on the radio this morning that Cowher has put his name in for the HC jobs at Miami, Houston and the NYGs. Apparently Cowher thinks these three franchises are best suited to his needs as a HC.
If the NYG's fire Tom Coughlin, the Broncos need to grab him immediately. He's a defensive minded HC and a SB winning HC. IMHO, he's exactly what the Broncos need.
Broncoman13
12-22-2010, 09:09 AM
Coughlin is a hard ass. Would be nice to see some of our players whipped into shape!
Los Broncos
12-22-2010, 09:10 AM
I agree, just what we need.
BroncoInferno
12-22-2010, 09:12 AM
I don't want a guy that old. Why? Because this team is probably a long-term project. How long do you think a 64 year old is going to stick around? Even if he has some success, it's only a temporary fix. I want long-term solutions.
Tombstone RJ
12-22-2010, 09:13 AM
The other good thing about Coughlin is that he was the HC of the Panthers (or was it Jacksonville) when that franchise was started back in 1996. So, he has experience building a team from basically nothing. The Broncos are going through a massive rebuild so his experience would be very helpful in this regard too.
PRBronco
12-22-2010, 09:27 AM
Sorry, players/staff in Denver don't respond well to being yelled at.
Beantown Bronco
12-22-2010, 09:32 AM
I heard on the radio this morning that Cowher has put his name in for the HC jobs at Miami, Houston and the NYGs. Apparently Cowher thinks these three franchises are best suited to his needs as a HC.
I just don't see how this can be true. I'd think Cowher would be a tad bit classier than to publicly put his name in for positions that are currently not available.
razorwire77
12-22-2010, 09:40 AM
I smell BS. The NFL coaching fraternity is small. There is no way Cowher, is running around "putting his name" in for jobs that aren't available yet. Maybe the radio guy interviewed his wife's sister's cousin's co-worker and that's what he said. As far as Coughlin to the Broncos goes, I'd be OK with it. We could do a lot worse than a defense minded hard ass with Superbowl pedigree
TheReverend
12-22-2010, 09:55 AM
I just don't see how this can be true. I'd think Cowher would be a tad bit classier than to publicly put his name in for positions that are currently not available.
100% right. No chance in hell that's true.
Jason in LA
12-22-2010, 10:01 AM
I don't want a guy that old. Why? Because this team is probably a long-term project. How long do you think a 64 year old is going to stick around? Even if he has some success, it's only a temporary fix. I want long-term solutions.
In today's NFL, I don't think that there is a such thing as a long term project. I'm not saying that a coach has to win year 1, but no coach is going to be afforded years to turn it around. Holding a coach to extremely high standards, like a Super Bowl, within the first few years is silly, but if a coach can't get a team above .500 and to the playoffs within a few years, he's probably not doing a good job.
Hercules Rockefeller
12-22-2010, 10:19 AM
100% right. No chance in hell that's true.
Those are the 3 teams that someone (I'm assuming Schefter or Mort) said Cowher would be interested in should any of those teams fire their HC.
If someone said he put his names in for those positions, then they're incorrectly and irresponsibly reporting what came out over the weekend.
Mjolnir
12-22-2010, 10:31 AM
If the Clevland staff gets fired like most believe they will, I'd love for the Broncos to get Rob Ryan as DC.
bowtown
12-22-2010, 10:33 AM
Wow, this thread is just full of terrible ideas.
PRBronco
12-22-2010, 10:33 AM
If the Clevland staff gets fired like most believe they will, I'd love for the Broncos to get Rob Ryan as DC.
I'm with Thor's hammer.
Also, not that I'm for it, just curious, but is Rob Ryan looking to be a head coach some day?
TonyR
12-22-2010, 10:39 AM
Here's a good article on the Cowher story. I like Giants owner Wellington Mara's comment:
"That's ridiculous. That is ridiculous," Mara said. "Are we down to that? We were writing Bill Cowher stories two months ago and now we are going to write them again. That's ridiculous."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2010/12/20/2010-12-20_giants_coowner_john_mara_calls_report_that_bill _cowher_has_giants_on_his_short_l.html#ixzz18rpcdx bA
BroncoInferno
12-22-2010, 11:33 AM
In today's NFL, I don't think that there is a such thing as a long term project. I'm not saying that a coach has to win year 1, but no coach is going to be afforded years to turn it around. Holding a coach to extremely high standards, like a Super Bowl, within the first few years is silly, but if a coach can't get a team above .500 and to the playoffs within a few years, he's probably not doing a good job.
I see what you're saying, but to me, you can build long term success not with the coach, but with a strong front office. You look at teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh, they've had different coaches, but the constancy has been the guys in the front office, and they are successful years in and year out (for the most part). I don't see Coughlin as anything more than a short term fix.
serious hops
12-22-2010, 11:55 AM
I don't want a guy that old. Why? Because this team is probably a long-term project. How long do you think a 64 year old is going to stick around? Even if he has some success, it's only a temporary fix. I want long-term solutions.
I agree with you in principle, but it depends on who the other options are. Given the choice between getting a strong HC who can potentially at least get the franchise moving in the right direction again and a Xanders-led front office with a retread like Jim Fossil as HC, I know which I'd choose. With possibly three picks in the top fifty and plenty of cap space if we want to spend it, this off-season is utterly crucial-- we can make a great start towards a quick turnaround, or set ourselves back three-to-five more years.
My ideal scenario is bringing in a personnel exec like Decosta who you hope can run the show for the next twenty years, and in that scenario I'm fine with a first time HC (Rivera, Grimm, Fewell, maybe even Harbaugh)-- but if that's not going to happen and we're stuck with Xanders, I would vastly prefer a steady hand at HC who can provide some direction. We will ruin our foreseeable future if we squander this bounty of picks. I think Jeff Fisher and John Fox are a lot more likely to be available than Coughlin, though.
bowtown
12-22-2010, 12:12 PM
Coughlin gets outcoached every 3rd game. His dline and assistant defensive coaches make him look better than he is. Plus he's like 130. We do not want Coughlin and if the Giants were smart, they would fire him and promote Fewell before they lose him.
bendog
12-22-2010, 12:15 PM
Mara didn't give R66v6s the power Cowher covets, and Coughlin was on the fire seat before the team magically won a superbowl.
Jason in LA
12-22-2010, 12:27 PM
I see what you're saying, but to me, you can build long term success not with the coach, but with a strong front office. You look at teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh, they've had different coaches, but the constancy has been the guys in the front office, and they are successful years in and year out (for the most part). I don't see Coughlin as anything more than a short term fix.
I agree with your point on having a strong front office. But I'd say that the Broncos can build a strong front office and still have success with Coughlin. Seeing that the Broncos tried the other extreme (unproven 32 year old coach), I'd welcome an older coach who has been around for years and has had a lot of success. We're not expecting the next coach to stick around for the next 20 years. If Coughlin can give a good 10 years and turn the Broncos into contenders, I'm all for it.
TonyR
12-22-2010, 12:30 PM
If Coughlin can give a good 10 years...
At 64 he's already the oldest head coach in the league.
Hogan11
12-22-2010, 12:36 PM
At 64 he's already the oldest head coach in the league.
I see no problem with that....Marv Levy joined the Bills as a gerry and gave them nearly 10 great years. There's no reason why Coughlin couldn't do the same. Age is not an issue.
I'm in agreement with those who say it's just what this team needs....hell almost anyone defensive minded will do.
Garcia Bronco
12-22-2010, 12:58 PM
No thanks. I don't believe in him.
I'd be more interested in Cowher going to Miami and freeing Nolan up to return here as the DC.
Tombstone RJ
12-22-2010, 01:58 PM
nolan would be another good choice
Boomhauer
12-22-2010, 02:19 PM
I just don't see how this can be true. I'd think Cowher would be a tad bit classier than to publicly put his name in for positions that are currently not available.
DPost today also said Cowher was interested in the Houston job.
TonyR
12-22-2010, 04:07 PM
DPost today also said Cowher was interested in the Houston job.
It's all speculation. His short list of teams is supposedly the Giants, Dolphins and Texans.
The MVPlaya
12-22-2010, 04:08 PM
What is up with this fetish of grabbing onto failing HC's?
PRBronco
12-22-2010, 04:09 PM
What is up with this fetish of grabbing onto failing HC's?
This place has gone right off the deep end. There's no point in trying to understand some of the **** that's said here.
Tombstone RJ
12-22-2010, 04:12 PM
I'm not sure any of the teams the chin is interested in are even looking for a new HC. Even if these teams are looking for a HC, they all have front offices with GMs and doesnt the mug want to be a HC/GM? this is just a ploy by cowher to let everyone know he wants back in
Hogan11
12-22-2010, 10:57 PM
I'm not sure any of the teams the chin is interested in are even looking for a new HC. Even if these teams are looking for a HC, they all have front offices with GMs and doesnt the mug want to be a HC/GM? this is just a ploy by cowher to let everyone know he wants back in
For years it was rumored that he wanted the Carolina job and now that it's assumed to be available, it's not even on his supposed list....Hmmm.
Agree with the ploy, what's his contract situation like with the network? Could it be that he's trying to swing a Gruden like deal to keep him behind the desk?
Beantown Bronco
12-23-2010, 04:14 AM
DPost today also said Cowher was interested in the Houston job.
It's one thing to say "a source close to _________ confirmed he would have interest in the x job if it was open". It's something else entirely to say that "________ actively submitted his resume to x team" before they even fire their current HC. See the difference.
BroncoInferno
12-23-2010, 06:21 AM
For years it was rumored that he wanted the Carolina job and now that it's assumed to be available, it's not even on his supposed list....Hmmm.
The reason is that Jerry Richardson reportedly wants to hire a coach on the cheap, which would rule out Cowher.
Hogan11
12-23-2010, 06:47 AM
The reason is that Jerry Richardson reportedly wants to hire a coach on the cheap, which would rule out Cowher.
Sold. I can buy that...it's Jerry "let's take back our league" Richardson after all, so his cheapness sinking that doesn't surprise me in the least.
The Moops
12-23-2010, 04:15 PM
Coughlin isn't going anywhere . . . Cowher maybe Houston.
But, why not Denver?