View Full Version : Today... I wish we had Josh McDaniels on the sideline
montrose
12-19-2010, 04:36 PM
Yeah I know he's the devil, he cheated, he can't draft, he traded Hillis, and on and on and on. Dude's a football genius compared to McCoy, Studesville and these other jokers.
Early this season when we couldn't run the ball, McD went to the pass because the run wasn't working. These idiots are calling runs with the backup RB in the game on the 1 yd line when the Raiders are stuffing the box and the running game has been ineffective all day. And in a meaningless game no less! I understood firing McD, but really wish we could've just waited until the end of the season.
SoCalBronco
12-19-2010, 04:37 PM
McCoy is beyond awful as a play caller.
frerottenextelway
12-19-2010, 04:38 PM
I wish he was on the Raiders sideline.
Zoobie
12-19-2010, 04:38 PM
I agree to an extent. Having said that, it was nice seeing our team commit to the run for once.
Yeah I know he's the devil, he cheated, he can't draft, he traded Hillis, and on and on and on. Dude's a football genius compared to McCoy, Studesville and these other jokers.
Early this season when we couldn't run the ball, McD went to the pass because the run wasn't working. These idiots are calling runs with the backup RB in the game on the 1 yd line when the Raiders are stuffing the box and the running game has been ineffective all day. And in a meaningless game no less! I understood firing McD, but really wish we could've just waited until the end of the season.
I am happy to someone else gets it. Huge mistake to fire Josh McDaniels.
BroncoInferno
12-19-2010, 04:40 PM
No kidding. I get being conservative and running the football in a rookies first start on the road. BUT, given Tebow's skill set, why not run it out of the gun and let Tebow pull it down on occasion? At least it gives the D something to think about, and you are still satisfying the goal of limiting opportunities for mistakes. It was successful the couple of times we did that today. Why run it out of the "I" all game long when it isn't working? Horrendous game planning. No imagination at all.
I would have liked McDaniels the offensive coordinator. Not so much the head coach/GM. It was past time for him to move on. We can get new coaches in the offseason and let them replace the majority of the players. We aren't hurting anything by not having McDaniels. We just did a lot better against the turds than when McDaniels was here.
Popps
12-19-2010, 04:40 PM
It is a bit ironic that now everyone is griping that we didn't THROW enough.
I agree, though... we got way too conservative in the 2nd half. To me, there's no question that Tebow would have been better developed with McD being around through the end of the season. But, that's water under the bridge.
In reality, it wouldn't have mattered if John Elway was playing QB today. Our defense would have given up the last score.
As I've said so many times, for so many years... we've got problems O U T S I D E of the QB position, and when we address those, we'll start winning.
Aside from maybe Vickerson, Goodman and Bailey, not a single guy came to play on defense today.
DJ was in jogging mode again today. That was when he could figure out where to be. But, maybe he's hung over... so I'll cut him a break, there.
We need an infusion of defensive talent, and I think Wink might be on his way out, too.
I am happy to someone else gets it. Huge mistake to fire Josh McDaniels.
Yeah!
It was much better to give up 20 more points and score 9 less. What are you guys thinking that we are missing out on exactly?
go_broncos
12-19-2010, 04:41 PM
Well..If josh was our coach..he would not have started Tebow.
BroncoInferno
12-19-2010, 04:41 PM
Frankly, I expect Orton to start next week. Not that I think it's the right move, but given the short lease they gave Tebow this week, I am guessing they fall back on the old "Orton gives us the best chance to win" canard. I would agree with that reasoning if we were in the playoff hunt. But we aren't. I hope I'm wrong and Tebow is allowed to continue to gain experience.
Taco John
12-19-2010, 04:42 PM
I didn't miss him at all. His presence was all over the field.
The Raiders are a talented football team. I give them their due. The Broncos got some good football players and they did not mail it in. A very good sign.
theAPAOps5
12-19-2010, 04:43 PM
If they go back to Orton I will be disappointed. Orton is a shell of his former self and one week to heal isn't going to fix that.
Mr.Meanie
12-19-2010, 04:44 PM
I am impressed at how McD was able to hide McCoy's complete incompetence all year long. That must have taken some serious work.
Yeah!
It was much better to give up 20 more points and score 9 less. What are you guys thinking that we are missing out on exactly?
There you go with the points are everything thing of your. You should watch the game sometime there is much to be seen besides the score.
There you go with the points are everything thing of your. You should watch the game sometime there is much to be seen besides the score.
The team didn't play any better with McDaniels here. I fail to see your point.
ro_50
12-19-2010, 04:46 PM
If Orton starts next week, I'll be pissed big-time.This team is 3-11 and Tebow showed some good things today; the coaching staff is beyond repair, most of them -- if not all -- won't be back.Good riddance to McCoy.If they start Orton next week, then good riddance to Studesville.
I would sure like to know the extent of McD's involvement in Spygate II. If he was not more involved than reported it was foolish to fire him when the did.
Rohirrim
12-19-2010, 04:46 PM
It was boneheaded to fire Josh with four games left, but only a pass rush and some brains (to stop massively stupid penalties) would have saved this game.
SonOfLe-loLang
12-19-2010, 04:47 PM
Well..If josh was our coach..he would not have started Tebow.
He only started because Orton was hurt. So he wouldnt have had a choice.
SonOfLe-loLang
12-19-2010, 04:48 PM
If they go back to Orton I will be disappointed. Orton is a shell of his former self and one week to heal isn't going to fix that.
Agreed. Even if he was 100 percent healthy. I saw enough out of tim today that we NEED to see more.
lostknight
12-19-2010, 04:48 PM
I do think that if McDaniels had gone with Tebow earlier in the season, he would still be here today. The play calling was particularlly incepid today, but what do you expect? McDaniel's mini-mi - McCoy - is calling the plays.
I don't think this was a winnable game with our Defense in the shape it's in. I do believe that Orton being in there would have led to a another en-masse blow out. There is no chance he would have converted that 3rd and 25 for example, to say nothing about a TD run.
Today might actually have been the best possible outcome for the Broncos. Tebow had a solid, ne, Great debut, answering the question of if we need to look at Luck or not. We moved up one position, and may be in a position to grab the overall number 1 pick.
If we can pick up an addition 1st and second and third for the first or second overall pick, this team could be on the road to success earlier rather then later.
oubronco
12-19-2010, 04:49 PM
It is a bit ironic that now everyone is griping that we didn't THROW enough.
I agree, though... we got way too conservative in the 2nd half. To me, there's no question that Tebow would have been better developed with McD being around through the end of the season. But, that's water under the bridge.
In reality, it wouldn't have mattered if John Elway was playing QB today. Our defense would have given up the last score.
As I've said so many times, for so many years... we've got problems O U T S I D E of the QB position, and when we address those, we'll start winning.
Aside from maybe Vickerson, Goodman and Bailey, not a single guy came to play on defense today.
DJ was in jogging mode again today. That was when he could figure out where to be. But, maybe he's hung over... so I'll cut him a break, there.
We need an infusion of defensive talent, and I think Wink might be on his way out, too.
If it weren't for DJ the Raiders would've scored 60 your hatred for him is unreal
eddie mac
12-19-2010, 04:49 PM
I want answers from the alcho and fast.
I want to know what he's going to do to change this horrible coaching staff, I also want to know how far he's going to go to rebuild this roster and who he trusts to do it right.
Afterall this franchise has sunk like the proverbial turd since Mr Hands on threw his bottle of scotch in the ring.
As good as the 97-98 team was, this current one is definitely one of the worst I've ever witnessed here in all 3 phases of the game and right now they're probably playing the worst football in the NFL.
**** me even Fitzpatrick and Clausen are winning games.
atomicbloke
12-19-2010, 04:50 PM
I am impressed at how McD was able to hide McCoy's complete incompetence all year long. That must have taken some serious work.
And a stroke of genius to hire him in first place.
**** McDaniels. If you have trash sitting in your living room, you throw that **** out. You don't wait for trashday.
Requiem
12-19-2010, 04:50 PM
One of the worst play-calling efforts I've seen in a super long time.
Likwid Kerruj
12-19-2010, 04:53 PM
Yeah I know he's the devil, he cheated, he can't draft, he traded Hillis, and on and on and on. Dude's a football genius compared to McCoy, Studesville and these other jokers.
Wow
I do think that if McDaniels had gone with Tebow earlier in the season, he would still be here today. The play calling was particularlly incepid today, but what do you expect? McDaniel's mini-mi - McCoy - is calling the plays.
I don't think this was a winnable game with our Defense in the shape it's in. I do believe that Orton being in there would have led to a another en-masse blow out. There is no chance he would have converted that 3rd and 25 for example, to say nothing about a TD run.
Today might actually have been the best possible outcome for the Broncos. Tebow had a solid, ne, Great debut, answering the question of if we need to look at Luck or not. We moved up one position, and may be in a position to grab the overall number 1 pick.
If we can pick up an addition 1st and second and third for the first or second overall pick, this team could be on the road to success earlier rather then later.
I am mixed of getting the #1 pick. On one hand we could trade out of the position and pick up 1 great D player and 1 damn good D player and maybe another pick too. On the other hand we may opt to take Luck and we would never know what Tebow could be for us.
Dudeskey
12-19-2010, 05:00 PM
I am impressed at how McD was able to hide McCoy's complete incompetence all year long. That must have taken some serious work.
Its no wonder he wasn't offered the interim HC job
broncocalijohn
12-19-2010, 05:02 PM
I would sure like to know the extent of McD's involvement in Spygate II. If he was not more involved than reported it was foolish to fire him when theydid.
I will play hindsight magic man and fix your post for ya. McD's team is still out there. Sure the playcalling would be different but he would still be here if he didnt screw up his playcalling the last two games he was here.
Bronco Yoda
12-19-2010, 05:03 PM
Yeah I know he's the devil, he cheated, he can't draft, he traded Hillis, and on and on and on. Dude's a football genius compared to McCoy, Studesville and these other jokers.
Early this season when we couldn't run the ball, McD went to the pass because the run wasn't working. These idiots are calling runs with the backup RB in the game on the 1 yd line when the Raiders are stuffing the box and the running game has been ineffective all day. And in a meaningless game no less! I understood firing McD, but really wish we could've just waited until the end of the season.
Why? Brady would have been the starter.
orangemonkey
12-19-2010, 05:05 PM
The reality is that Josh McDaniels was a cancer, potentially the worst in Broncos history, no, NFL history. What's ridicululous about this thread is that if you hate the coaching today, then you can only blame McDaniels, aka the cancer.
There were parts of todays game that looked more positively balanced than anything we've seen in in 1.8 years. So proud to be a Broncos fan right now and so happy that that POS McD is not only gone from the Broncos org, but gone from Denver forever.
Likwid Kerruj
12-19-2010, 05:07 PM
Tebow wouldn't have survived 50 pass attempts.
I think they were just trying to avoid a pass rush with the ears pinned back situation.
At least that'll be the story...
Clockwork Orange
12-19-2010, 05:09 PM
Bad team, worse coaching staff, all assembled by Josh McDaniels. Yeah, I'm gonna go with no, I don't miss that guy in the least and getting him the **** out of here was absolutely the right move.
I'll take the lumps for the next couple of weeks and we can move forward once this season is mercifully over.
TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-19-2010, 05:10 PM
Well..If josh was our coach..he would not have started Tebow.
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Call me now for your free REEDIN'.
lostknight
12-19-2010, 05:14 PM
On the other hand we may opt to take Luck and we would never know what Tebow could be for us.
I thought before this game that there was very little chance of this happening. After this game? Just about zero.
Watch. Next year, Tebow jerseys will outsell Luck jerseys - and his record will be better to boot ;-)
colonelbeef
12-19-2010, 05:17 PM
I am happy to someone else gets it. Huge mistake to fire Josh McDaniels.
omg what will we do without the constant soap opera and 11-17 record??
All is lost!
orinjkrush
12-19-2010, 05:18 PM
im just glad tebow didnt line up under right guard at least once.
Derger_Louis
12-19-2010, 05:18 PM
If it weren't for DJ the Raiders would've scored 60 your hatred for him is unreal
I'm not sure what game you were watching... DJ is the softest LB I've ever seen and is a huge liability against the run. I really do not understand why people think he is so great.
Cito Pelon
12-19-2010, 05:22 PM
Frankly, I expect Orton to start next week. Not that I think it's the right move, but given the short lease they gave Tebow this week, I am guessing they fall back on the old "Orton gives us the best chance to win" canard. I would agree with that reasoning if we were in the playoff hunt. But we aren't. I hope I'm wrong and Tebow is allowed to continue to gain experience.
What?
At this point and after today's game starting Tebow is a no brainer but that doesn't mean the Broncos will do it.
Cito Pelon
12-19-2010, 05:25 PM
Whatever. Tebow can play in the NFL, that's what we wanted to find out today, and IMO he can play in the NFL as a starter.
Popps
12-19-2010, 05:26 PM
I'm not sure what game you were watching... DJ is the softest LB I've ever seen and is a huge liability against the run. I really do not understand why people think he is so great.
Because he makes 6 tackles per game and one big play per season.
I've had a love/hate with the guy, but one thing is certain... he mails it in this time of year. He looked horrid out there today. He's not our biggest liability, but he's one of them.
broncogary
12-19-2010, 05:29 PM
Because he makes 6 tackles per game and one big play per season.
I've had a love/hate with the guy, but one thing is certain... he mails it in this time of year. He looked horrid out there today. He's not our biggest liability, but he's one of them.
He's an average player that you couldn't trade for a third round pick. And he's not so expensive that you can just cut him.
Crushaholic
12-19-2010, 05:29 PM
Because he makes 6 tackles per game and one big play per season.
I've had a love/hate with the guy, but one thing is certain... he mails it in this time of year. He looked horrid out there today. He's not our biggest liability, but he's one of them.
Hmmm...That sounds like Ian Gold...
*ducks before SoCal comes down with the ban hammer for that one...Hilarious!
NYBronco
12-19-2010, 05:31 PM
I am happy to someone else gets it. Huge mistake to fire Josh McDaniels.
Couldn't agree more. It was even more difficult knowing McD was fired from the Broncos with all his upside and seeing closeups of Tom Cable on the raider sideline.
Dr. Broncenstein
12-19-2010, 05:36 PM
Tebow will be the best thing McD ever did for this organization. Why McD was too stubborn to use him as a role player until mid-season, I'll never understand.
Popps
12-19-2010, 05:39 PM
He's an average player that you couldn't trade for a third round pick. And he's not so expensive that you can just cut him.
And he's apparently a drunk who's on his way to a multi-game suspension.
So, on top of it all... he probably won't even be available to start next season.
I'm not sure if that's a blessing or not. Depends if we draft someone.
And he's apparently a drunk who's on his way to a multi-game suspension.
So, on top of it all... he probably won't even be available to start next season.
I'm not sure if that's a blessing or not. Depends if we draft someone.
Yet he gets the big contract and Champ, a true star and the best player on the team, gets insulted.
montrose
12-19-2010, 05:49 PM
Not so much arguing against (or for) what McD did as a GM-type for the team and even if he deserved to be back next year but for these last 4 games I have immensley more confidence McD than any of these other clowns and would've liked to see what he could've done with Tebow. Instead of giving in to public pressure and firing him on spot, Pat and Joe should've called Josh in after the KC game and said you're starting Tim the last 4 games or your gone. Let Tim get work with an actual playcaller the last 4 games, THEN can McD if you want.
frerottenextelway
12-19-2010, 05:51 PM
Saying you have more confidence in McDaniels than McCoy is like saying you have more confidence in Beavis than Butthead.
Not so much arguing against (or for) what McD did as a GM-type for the team and even if he deserved to be back next year but for these last 4 games I have immensley more confidence McD than any of these other clowns and would've liked to see what he could've done with Tebow. Instead of giving in to public pressure and firing him on spot, Pat and Joe should've called Josh in after the KC game and said you're starting Tim the last 4 games or your gone. Let Tim get work with an actual playcaller the last 4 games, THEN can McD if you want.
The only thing that can explain firing McD when they did is that there is more to SpygateII than we have been told.
Cito Pelon
12-19-2010, 06:00 PM
The only thing that can explain firing McD when they did is that there is more to SpygateII than we have been told.
Well, we'll see how it all pans out, eh? I can see your point of view. Just let it ride and we'll see.
BroncoInferno
12-19-2010, 06:02 PM
What?
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. But the way they used Tebow today suggests to me that they don't think he can handle a comprehensive gameplan. So, even though Tebow looked as well as he could with what the staff allowed him to run, I think if Orton's healthy next week, they go back to him under the "he gives us the best chance to win" line. Again, hope I'm wrong.
broncogary
12-19-2010, 06:03 PM
And he's apparently a drunk who's on his way to a multi-game suspension.
So, on top of it all... he probably won't even be available to start next season.
I'm not sure if that's a blessing or not. Depends if we draft someone.
Depends on the definition of drunk. I think he occasionally overdoes it and then drives.
Bronco Yoda
12-19-2010, 06:07 PM
The only thing that can explain firing McD when they did is that there is more to SpygateII than we have been told.
Of course he did. Bowlen obviously pulled the trigger because of this.
Cito Pelon
12-19-2010, 06:07 PM
Not so much arguing against (or for) what McD did as a GM-type for the team and even if he deserved to be back next year but for these last 4 games I have immensley more confidence McD than any of these other clowns and would've liked to see what he could've done with Tebow. Instead of giving in to public pressure and firing him on spot, Pat and Joe should've called Josh in after the KC game and said you're starting Tim the last 4 games or your gone. Let Tim get work with an actual playcaller the last 4 games, THEN can McD if you want.
Dude, you were on the radio ripping McD.
broncosteven
12-19-2010, 06:09 PM
It is a bit ironic that now everyone is griping that we didn't THROW enough....
DJ was in jogging mode again today. That was when he could figure out where to be. But, maybe he's hung over... so I'll cut him a break, there.
We need an infusion of defensive talent, and I think Wink might be on his way out, too.
DJ's # is 55, Ayers # is 56, I saw Ayers dogging it all day, the dude couldn't run down a rickshaw that he left his wallet in let alone run down a play from the backside. Then he took a dive on their last TD drive that I think he must have been 5 yards away from the ball carrier but he thought it might look good on tape.
We have 1 decent LB on this team and that is DJ, everyone else is a rotational backup (i.e Hunter, Woodyard), one dimentional (i.e. Mays) or scrub.
mCd would have found a way to lose this game also, he would not have made a difference in the last 2 games.
Bronco Yoda
12-19-2010, 06:11 PM
It's sad how depleted our Defense is.
broncosteven
12-19-2010, 06:12 PM
Yeah I know he's the devil, he cheated, he can't draft, he traded Hillis, and on and on and on. Dude's a football genius compared to McCoy, Studesville and these other jokers.
Early this season when we couldn't run the ball, McD went to the pass because the run wasn't working. These idiots are calling runs with the backup RB in the game on the 1 yd line when the Raiders are stuffing the box and the running game has been ineffective all day. And in a meaningless game no less! I understood firing McD, but really wish we could've just waited until the end of the season.
mCd would have forced an injured KO out there because he wouldn't have wanted to take his toy out of the package and ruin it by playing it.
I think it is more of a testament to mCd's failure that he has scrubs like McCoy and Wink on his staff at all. It is apparent that the staff he assembled has no NFL experience and have been holding the team back for the last 2 years.
Time to flush the turd and bring in real coaches with NFL experience, not the legends of Ohio High School football.
Of course he did. Bowlen obviously pulled the trigger because of this.
I don't think it's obvious or even possible to make an educated guess about. Talk about leaping to a conclusion. That's a good one.
Rigs11
12-19-2010, 06:43 PM
**** McDaniels. If you have trash sitting in your living room, you throw that **** out. You don't wait for trashday.
Yeah screw mcd, even though it was him who drafted the guy you are praising. Yay!
Greatspirits
12-19-2010, 06:45 PM
Well..If josh was our coach..he would not have started Tebow.
Exactly!!
DBroncos4life
12-19-2010, 06:46 PM
I am impressed at how McD was able to hide McCoy's complete incompetence all year long. That must have taken some serious work.
He never should have hired him in the first place.
Taco John
12-19-2010, 07:26 PM
Saying you have more confidence in McDaniels than McCoy is like saying you have more confidence in Beavis than Butthead.
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5941/mcbeavisandmcbutthead.jpg
broncocalijohn
12-19-2010, 07:35 PM
I wish Josh was on the sidelines too. Someone could have held an umbrella up for the players and coaches. Wet day out there during the game.
He never should have hired him in the first place.
Every coach out there knew Josh intended to call the shots (and plays) on O so it would have been hard to convince a top flight OC to sign here.
TheReverend
12-19-2010, 07:42 PM
Not so much arguing against (or for) what McD did as a GM-type for the team and even if he deserved to be back next year but for these last 4 games I have immensley more confidence McD than any of these other clowns and would've liked to see what he could've done with Tebow. Instead of giving in to public pressure and firing him on spot, Pat and Joe should've called Josh in after the KC game and said you're starting Tim the last 4 games or your gone. Let Tim get work with an actual playcaller the last 4 games, THEN can McD if you want.
I fully agree with this. The mid-season firing was a PR stunt and nothing more. Did he deserve it? Sure. Did the team/fans? No.
TheReverend
12-19-2010, 07:46 PM
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. But the way they used Tebow today suggests to me that they don't think he can handle a comprehensive gameplan. So, even though Tebow looked as well as he could with what the staff allowed him to run, I think if Orton's healthy next week, they go back to him under the "he gives us the best chance to win" line. Again, hope I'm wrong.
Honestly, I'd like for him to have a god awful game before the end of the season. I'd like for Tim to get his ass kicked for 60 minutes and make some huge mistakes. I'd like for Tim to feel lost in the game plan, his reads and completely in over his head.
It'll only drive him further and further all off-season.
Cito Pelon
12-19-2010, 08:07 PM
Honestly, I'd like for him to have a god awful game before the end of the season. I'd like for Tim to get his ass kicked for 60 minutes and make some huge mistakes. I'd like for Tim to feel lost in the game plan, his reads and completely in over his head.
It'll only drive him further and further all off-season.
It has to happen sometime. The sooner the better. Dude is such a badass and has so much confidence I doubt it's gonna be a big deal.
Kaylore
12-20-2010, 05:59 AM
Honestly, I'd like for him to have a god awful game before the end of the season. I'd like for Tim to get his ass kicked for 60 minutes and make some huge mistakes. I'd like for Tim to feel lost in the game plan, his reads and completely in over his head.
It'll only drive him further and further all off-season.
I won't because Tim will do that either way. It will only lessen the support of the powers that be. I hope he plays well enough to warrant a look from whoever takes over.
Dagmar
12-20-2010, 06:35 AM
I am happy to someone else gets it. Huge mistake to fire Josh McDaniels.
You must have enjoyed your team winning yesterday though?
You must have enjoyed your team winning yesterday though?
What I would enjoy is for you to stop following me around.
I know it hurts your feelings when I call you on your whining but a better solution to following me around the board would be to put me on ignore.
bendog
12-20-2010, 06:52 AM
"josh" would have been a great OC
BroncosSR
12-20-2010, 06:55 AM
"josh" would have been a great OC
Instead he ran this team into the ground, rid it of any top talent it had and generally set it back 4-5 years. Josh can lick my sack. I was a pro-Josh groupie but seeing how he's destroyed the organization over time only makes me sick to my stomach. We won't be competitive for years, minimum 2 most likely longer.
I'm still not getting the point of this thread. Can anyone really claim this team looked better with McDaniels game plans? We just played a team that we played under McDaniels. While at their house, we gave up 20 less points and scored 9 more. The games even started the same with Oakland jumping to a quick lead. At what point can you honestly tell yourself that we would play better with Josh still here? Do people even try to make sense anymore?
Dagmar
12-20-2010, 07:08 AM
What I would enjoy is for you to stop following me around.
I know it hurts your feelings when I call you on your whining but a better solution to following me around the board would be to put me on ignore.
Just surprised a Raiders fan is in such a bad mood, I guess the Chiefs winning took away any playoff hopes your team had eh?
Dr. Broncenstein
12-20-2010, 07:10 AM
In Josh's last game, the Chiefs were giving away the run. Moreno was gouging them nearly every time he touched the ball. In addition, Orton couldn't hit water from a boat. Yet our head coach inexplicably abandoned the run and called something like 8-straight passes, saying something like "well eventually you are going to have to pass." How was this any smarter than what we saw yesterday?
bendog
12-20-2010, 07:14 AM
In Josh's last game, the Chiefs were giving away the run. Moreno was gouging them nearly every time he touched the ball. In addition, Orton couldn't hit water from a boat. Yet our head coach inexplicably abandoned the run and called something like 8-straight passes, saying something like "well eventually you are going to have to pass." How was this any smarter than what we saw yesterday?
yeah, "josh" would have made a great qb coach. (-: Seriously, I hated the guy as a HC from day one (or two, whenever he decided to trade Lambchop just so he could make his own qb) but I'm amazed at the statistical production he got out of Orton. Whether his ego will ever allow him to review stupid stuff like leaving the run v. the chorfs is something we'll find out about down the road.
In Josh's last game, the Chiefs were giving away the run. Moreno was gouging them nearly every time he touched the ball. In addition, Orton couldn't hit water from a boat. Yet our head coach inexplicably abandoned the run and called something like 8-straight passes, saying something like "well eventually you are going to have to pass." How was this any smarter than what we saw yesterday?
Exactly. Tebow would have taken a ton more hits and not looked nearly as good with McDaniels. We ran a game plan that protected the young QB and let the RBs take the extra hits. I would have liked to see him pass a little more but not McDaniels game plan more.
Dr. Broncenstein
12-20-2010, 07:20 AM
To be fair, the game plan yesterday was plenty ****ing stupid. There are several ways to protect a rookie quarterback without trying to run G-power against 9 in the box, on a muddy field, with a milquetoast interior offensive line. It was almost as dumb as abandoning the run vs the Chorfs. Almost.
bronco militia
12-20-2010, 08:35 AM
wtf at this thread?!? Josh would have started Quinn
Broncoman13
12-20-2010, 08:37 AM
Yeah I know he's the devil, he cheated, he can't draft, he traded Hillis, and on and on and on. Dude's a football genius compared to McCoy, Studesville and these other jokers.
Early this season when we couldn't run the ball, McD went to the pass because the run wasn't working. These idiots are calling runs with the backup RB in the game on the 1 yd line when the Raiders are stuffing the box and the running game has been ineffective all day. And in a meaningless game no less! I understood firing McD, but really wish we could've just waited until the end of the season.
I just wish that McD would have had the opportunity to play Tebow himself. You take all the heat in the world for drafting the kid and never get a chance to coach him as the starter in a game. I wonder if Josh looks back and thinks to himself that he should have just played him in some of those blowouts. The first Raiders game or the first Chiefs game would have been perfect. Oh well, lost opportunity.
Taco John
12-20-2010, 08:44 AM
I just wish that McD would have had the opportunity to play Tebow himself. You take all the heat in the world for drafting the kid and never get a chance to coach him as the starter in a game. I wonder if Josh looks back and thinks to himself that he should have just played him in some of those blowouts. The first Raiders game or the first Chiefs game would have been perfect. Oh well, lost opportunity.
He can live with his regrets. He had every opportunity in the world to play the guy in blowouts, but for whatever reason, refused to.
I do wonder what he thought yesterday while watching that game unfold. Up until the 4th quarter, we were in it.
He can live with his regrets. He had every opportunity in the world to play the guy in blowouts, but for whatever reason, refused to.
I do wonder what he thought yesterday while watching that game unfold. Up until the 4th quarter, we were in it.
that bolded section applies to any number of questionable choices McD made during his tenure. arrogance? insecurity? who knows?... i just know the guy wasn't doing himself any favors being so stubborn about so many things.
bendog
12-20-2010, 08:48 AM
wtf at this thread?!? Josh would have started Quinn
Stop picking on "josh." Richard Quinn caught his first pass of the year, yesterday
bronco militia
12-20-2010, 08:56 AM
Stop picking on "josh." Richard Quinn caught his first pass of the year, yesterday
oh yeah! that was nice catch.
about ****ing time
What I would enjoy is for you to stop following me around.
I know it hurts your feelings when I call you on your whining but a better solution to following me around the board would be to put me on ignore.
Love your neg reps Drag keep um coming. ;D
TheReverend
12-20-2010, 09:03 AM
Stop picking on "josh." Richard Quinn caught his first pass of his career, yesterday
Fixed
maher_tyler
12-20-2010, 10:19 AM
Frankly, I expect Orton to start next week. Not that I think it's the right move, but given the short lease they gave Tebow this week, I am guessing they fall back on the old "Orton gives us the best chance to win" canard. I would agree with that reasoning if we were in the playoff hunt. But we aren't. I hope I'm wrong and Tebow is allowed to continue to gain experience.
If Tebow doesn't start..expect the Boo's to rain down from the people that show up to the game!!