LaCanfora on Coaching Carousel: Says Kubiak to Denver [Archive] - The Orange Mane

montrose

12-17-2010, 06:19 AM

Just saw on NFLN:

* Bill Cowher the favorite for the Texans job, LaCanfora reported that job would be very appealing to him.

* That would leave Gary Kubiak to return to the Broncos.

* Raiders OC Hue Jackson the favorite in Cincinnatti.

* Jon Gruden and Jim Harbaugh to get heavy consideration in San Francisco.

* Gruden and Jon Fox would be the prime candidates in Cleveland if Eric Mangini doesn't finish strong.

supermanhr9

12-17-2010, 06:20 AM

Interesting.

Ray Finkle

12-17-2010, 06:25 AM

the only way I would be fine with Kubiak is if the following occurs:

1. A valid GM is first in place
2. Dennison comes along
3. A good DC is hired on (and no, Wade Phillips isn't coming).

go_broncos

12-17-2010, 06:25 AM

Bowlen - Don't hire Kubiak.Like Shanny coached teams, his team plays soft..

TonyR

12-17-2010, 06:26 AM

* That would leave Gary Kubiak to return to the Broncos.

I know this is just speculation at this point but as many have said over and over again the last several days.... if a good GM is hired first, and then Kubiak comes in as head coach along with a top notch DC and coaching staff, I think I could live with this.

Speaking of which, any chance Rick Smith would leave Houston for Denver along with Kubiak? And if so, would people support this or be disappointed?

bowtown

12-17-2010, 06:27 AM

It's going to be hilarious when the Texans don't fire Kubiak.

meangene

12-17-2010, 06:30 AM

meangene

12-17-2010, 06:31 AM

Bowlen - Don't hire Kubiak.Like Shanny coached teams, his team plays soft..

This.

meangene

12-17-2010, 06:31 AM

It's going to be hilarious when the Texans don't fire Kubiak.

I have become a big Texans fan just for that reason.

Dagmar

12-17-2010, 06:32 AM

Yeah, but there are people who are saying unless Kubes loses out he will get one more year down there, the GM will not though.

CEH

12-17-2010, 06:45 AM

I think it's pretty simple. After the Tasmanian devil come through Dove Valley Bowlen wants to know the devil the next time around

Ray Finkle

12-17-2010, 06:48 AM

I know this is just speculation at this point but as many have said over and over again the last several days.... if a good GM is hired first, and then Kubiak comes in as head coach along with a top notch DC and coaching staff, I think I could live with this.

Speaking of which, any chance Rick Smith would leave Houston for Denver along with Kubiak? And if so, would people support this or be disappointed?

I'd rather have Rick James come along with Kubiak then Rick Smith....piss poor drafter.

broncogary

12-17-2010, 06:54 AM

It's going to be hilarious when the Texans don't fire Kubiak.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7342489.html

After addressing his players and coaches on Thursday, Bob McNair did not sound like an owner who is considering firing Texans coach Gary Kubiak.

McNair did say he’s sure the Texans will make some changes after the season but didn’t specify what those changes might be.

McNair, who spent Wednesday in Dallas at the NFL owners’ meeting, spoke to his team after practice. He told them he was “shocked” by the positive response he had received from other owners attending the meeting.

“I wanted the team to know not only how close we think they are but how close our competitors think they are to being an outstanding team,” McNair said. “The level of respect they have for our team and how close they think we are to having not just a good team but an outstanding team — it was nice to hear your peer group say that about you.

“It’s sort of an affirmation that we’re on the right track. Clearly, we have to do better, because what we’ve done wasn’t good enough. But we’re on the right track, and I’ve felt that way all along.”

ShutDownPoster

12-17-2010, 06:57 AM

Hire Dennison, at least he looks like he can kick peoples ass

RaiderH8r

12-17-2010, 07:06 AM

Any word on the likelyhood of Jeff Fisher's availability? I'm cool with Jeff coming to town. Stable, professional, competitive.

Dagmar

12-17-2010, 07:16 AM

Any word on the likelyhood of Jeff Fisher's availability? I'm cool with Jeff coming to town. Stable, professional, competitive.

Hasn't he had 6 winning seasons in 17 or something like that? And he tolerates scum like Finnegan. Pass.

serious hops

12-17-2010, 07:17 AM

I'd rather have Rick James come along with Kubiak then Rick Smith....piss poor drafter.

Rick James would definitely draft someone who could break off 2K in this system.

Mile High Shack

12-17-2010, 07:18 AM

in other news, I pull **** out of my ass and report it just because I can and can say "oh, it was just a rumor anyway"

tnedator

12-17-2010, 07:22 AM

Another disappointing rumor for Denver. Why all these coaches who have failed at prior NFL jobs? Why not defensive oriented coaches? Why do we keep living in the past with these guys with Broncos connections? This whole season just sucks! Orton will probably start this week even though he hasn't practiced and is, clearly, beaten up. Just great...

I'm not sure what I think about Kubiak being brought in as HC, so I'll set that aside.

However, to your question about the talk about HC's that have failed at prior NFL jobs vs. young coaches. See the McDaniels experiment for the main answer to that.

There is a much bigger chance of complete failure with a first time HC. When you hire a HC that was fired from another team, there is a history, game film if you will, that lets you evaluate what they did good and what they did bad. From that, you can make an informed decision about whether they will be successful here either based because they've learned from their mistakes (mostly if they are young), or if the players or circumstances of this team would fit them better, etc.

Most coordinators fail in their first HC job. Some, then go on to success with another team (maybe after another coordinator job).

So, it's always intriguing to look at young coordinators who had success, but more times than not they fail.

RaiderH8r

12-17-2010, 07:38 AM

Hasn't he had 6 winning seasons in 17 or something like that? And he tolerates scum like Finnegan. Pass.

I was a lot higher on Fisher as a coach before I became acquainted with Finnegan. Guy is dick bag of the highest order.

Liquid Courage

12-17-2010, 07:54 AM

The only defense that is worse on the epic scale than Denver is the Texans.

jsco70

12-17-2010, 08:01 AM

It's going to be hilarious when the Texans don't fire Kubiak.

Agree completely.

Dos Rios

12-17-2010, 08:08 AM

Texans offensive is top notch and the defense has some great pieces. If Cowher could make a difference on defense, look out.

meangene

12-17-2010, 08:12 AM

I'm not sure what I think about Kubiak being brought in as HC, so I'll set that aside.

However, to your question about the talk about HC's that have failed at prior NFL jobs vs. young coaches. See the McDaniels experiment for the main answer to that.

There is a much bigger chance of complete failure with a first time HC. When you hire a HC that was fired from another team, there is a history, game film if you will, that lets you evaluate what they did good and what they did bad. From that, you can make an informed decision about whether they will be successful here either based because they've learned from their mistakes (mostly if they are young), or if the players or circumstances of this team would fit them better, etc.

Most coordinators fail in their first HC job. Some, then go on to success with another team (maybe after another coordinator job).

So, it's always intriguing to look at young coordinators who had success, but more times than not they fail.

Except that there are coaches out there who have been successful head coaches - i.e. Gruden, Cowher and we are focusing (if you believe the rumors) on offensive-minded, recently unsuccessful coaches (Kubiak) or older guys (Fossil) who should have learned their lessons earlier in their careers. Boy, we would jump at the chance for a Raheem Morris or Leslie Frazier now. Give me Harbaugh or Rivera any day over what is being speculated. Look around the league right now and there are plenty of first time head coaches who are successful after having been offensive or defensive coordinators.

edog24

12-17-2010, 08:20 AM

ROFL! If the Bengals pick up the Raiders OC, they just never learn.

Crushaholic

12-17-2010, 09:03 AM

Cleveland is getting better, thanks to Hillis. I think that will allow Mangini to keep his job...

ColoradoDarin

12-17-2010, 09:07 AM

Really starting to like the idea of Rivera. Pass on Kubes, I hope the Texans keep him and he starts winning divisions down there.

Homer Simpson

12-17-2010, 09:17 AM

Really starting to like the idea of Rivera. Pass on Kubes, I hope the Texans keep him and he starts winning divisions down there.

Me too. He said he won't interview for open positions until the Chargers season is over. Do we need to root for the Chiefs to get Rivera??

And to be honest, I want a GM first.

Rohirrim

12-17-2010, 09:17 AM

Given our owners current head space, I'm guessing Lane Kiffin.

Baba Booey

12-17-2010, 09:22 AM

Considering teams can't legally talk to other head coaches or coordinators until the season is over, I'll take any rumor I hear with a grain of salt.

ColoradoDarin

12-17-2010, 09:26 AM

Me too. He said he won't interview for open positions until the Chargers season is over. Do we need to root for the Chiefs to get Rivera??

And to be honest, I want a GM first.

Yeah, makes me sick, but I'm thinking that we just need to root for the Chargers to miss the playoffs.

BroncosMT

12-17-2010, 09:28 AM

I would love for Rivera......count me in. We need someone hard nosed who is great with the D. We can get a better OC but we need some smash mouth here!

colonelbeef

12-17-2010, 09:28 AM

Bowlen - Don't hire Kubiak.Like Shanny coached teams, his team plays soft..

so a team that rushes for 125+ yards a game and controls the line of scrimmage and TOP is soft now?

Amazing how little some of you know about football

Ray Finkle

12-17-2010, 09:37 AM

so a team that rushes for 125+ yards a game and controls the line of scrimmage and TOP is soft now?

Amazing how little some of you know about football

watch what happens to the Texans against most physical defenses....

oubronco

12-17-2010, 09:58 AM

The only defense that is worse on the epic scale than Denver is the Texans.

Dude you might want to watch the games their defense is way better than ours

Dedhed

12-17-2010, 10:59 AM

I think it's pretty simple. After the Tasmanian devil come through Dove Valley Bowlen wants to know the devil the next time aroundI would much rather be blind sided by a crap storm than to walk into one with my eyes and mouth wide open.

Popps

12-17-2010, 11:08 AM

Kubiak. Gross.

DHallblows

12-17-2010, 11:21 AM

so a team that rushes for 125+ yards a game and controls the line of scrimmage and TOP is soft now?

Amazing how little some of you know about football

Well at least you spread around your doucheyness to everyone on the board...

Dedhed

12-17-2010, 11:24 AM

Really starting to like the idea of Rivera. Pass on Kubes, I hope the Texans keep him and he starts winning divisions down there.I don't want anyone who doesn't have head coaching experience, and success, at some level.

Kaylore

12-17-2010, 11:26 AM

FYI, LaCanfora has no source and isn't saying we are planning on hiring Kubiak. He was floating the idea of Cowher going to Texas would "Free up" Kubiak to go to Denver. This is all speculative.

gunns

12-17-2010, 11:34 AM

so a team that rushes for 125+ yards a game and controls the line of scrimmage and TOP is soft now?

Amazing how little some of you know about football

Who the hell are you talking about? Houston may average 125 yds per game, are not tops in TOP, and may control the line of scrimmage and where has it gotten them. You guys sit there and compare offenses, well you can compare that offense to Shanahan's.....with no damn defense. Amazing how little you can figure out about consistent winning by a team. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DEFENSE. And Kubiak doesn't.

lonestar

12-17-2010, 11:37 AM

I for one will pass on any former coaches that had anything to do with Mikey.

While Kubes was at once a good OC he is to wedded to old notions such as ZBS and running game first.

While You have to have a running game, that will never win it all in todays NFL.

Todays NFL is a pass first runafter tyour up by 20 points, to kill the clock

I can only hope we get a Qualified GM taht can handle players, scouting and will impart his wisdom on how to win to his coaching staff in todays NFL.

Hogan11

12-17-2010, 11:40 AM

Hire Dennison, at least he looks like he can kick peoples ass

The guy looks like Gary Sinise

Mile High Shack

12-17-2010, 11:44 AM

FYI, LaCanfora has no source and isn't saying we are planning on hiring Kubiak. He was floating the idea of Cowher going to Texas would "Free up" Kubiak to go to Denver. This is all speculative.

this....it's pretty stupid, like I said, it's just him pulling crap out of his ass and throwing it on the wall like a circus monkey

Hogan11

12-17-2010, 11:46 AM

this....it's pretty stupid, like I said, it's just him pulling crap out of his ass and throwing it on the wall like a circus monkey

Anyone who promotes Cowher or Gruden going anywhere is doing exactly that

bendog

12-17-2010, 11:57 AM

go_broncos

12-17-2010, 12:00 PM

so a team that rushes for 125+ yards a game and controls the line of scrimmage and TOP is soft now?

Amazing how little some of you know about football

So..if we run the ball well..we are not soft????..
Look how we used to perform under shanny...Very soft..

Dedhed

12-17-2010, 12:11 PM

you might want to take a look at offense stats.but don't look at points scored, defense, or record.

bendog

12-17-2010, 12:13 PM

but don't look at points scored, defense, or record.

umm, his post was about hou not passing.

broncosteven

12-17-2010, 01:44 PM

ghwk

12-17-2010, 02:02 PM

Bring in Jimmy Johnson. He still has "it".

BroncoInferno

12-17-2010, 02:10 PM

so a team that rushes for 125+ yards a game and controls the line of scrimmage and TOP is soft now?

Amazing how little some of you know about football

You realize there is another element to football called "defense," right? And the Texans D is as soft as a marshmellow. Also, the Texans run offense gets shut down when they play physical defenses, jsut like ours did the last decade Shanny was here. That's the problem with using strictly a ZBS...it isn't a physical style of blocking. It's finesse running. That's why most teams just use it as a corollary to a man-on-man blocking scheme.You are the one showing your ignorance that such sublties escapes you.

BroncoBuff

12-17-2010, 02:12 PM

* Gruden and Jon Fox would be the prime candidates in Cleveland if Eric Mangini doesn't finish strong.

Mangini is lucky he has a player like ........

Colt McCoy.

rbackfactory80

12-17-2010, 06:37 PM

Hell to thee No.

UberBroncoMan

12-17-2010, 07:12 PM

tnedator

12-17-2010, 07:29 PM

Except that there are coaches out there who have been successful head coaches - i.e. Gruden, Cowher and we are focusing (if you believe the rumors) on offensive-minded, recently unsuccessful coaches (Kubiak) or older guys (Fossil) who should have learned their lessons earlier in their careers. Boy, we would jump at the chance for a Raheem Morris or Leslie Frazier now. Give me Harbaugh or Rivera any day over what is being speculated. Look around the league right now and there are plenty of first time head coaches who are successful after having been offensive or defensive coordinators.

Add two more names to your list of Harbough and Rivera and MAYBE one of the four will be a successful first time head coach. We wound up with one of the first time failures. The odds were it was going to happen.

Broncos_OTM

12-17-2010, 07:33 PM

I want a head coach much like MCD in all that he looked for in his team. And first and foremost i want a strong GM that knows talent and can find it. Whats all yhalls opinion on the goodmans again

Hallside

12-17-2010, 09:35 PM

watch what happens to the Texans against most physical defenses....

Like against Baltimore when they scored multiple unanswered TDs on extremely long fields? I was impressed. (I bet HOU+3 in that game, so imagine how heartbroken I was by the ending.)

I'm skeptical of Kubiak because I doubt his upside, but I still need to look more closely.

cabronco

12-17-2010, 09:51 PM

Given our owners current head space, I'm guessing Lane Kiffin.

Oh for **ck sake, not that bobble head.

errand

12-17-2010, 10:19 PM

Just saw on NFLN:

* That would leave Gary Kubiak to return to the Broncos.

Again I have to ask why the majority of people on here want Kubiak as our top man when for practically his entire A.E. career (After Elway) in Denver all we read was how Mike had to take the playbook outta his hands and right the ship, then gave it back to him, only to take it back, fix his **** ups, then give it back, then take it away, give it back, etc....

Not to mention when Dennison was here all we heard was how he was an idiot and it was all Alex Gibbs....

Why in God's name do you clowns want the same two guys you couldn't wait to get rid of when they were here?

meangene

12-18-2010, 03:19 AM

Add two more names to your list of Harbough and Rivera and MAYBE one of the four will be a successful first time head coach. We wound up with one of the first time failures. The odds were it was going to happen.

Rex Ryan, Tony Sporano, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Todd Haley, Jim Schwartz, Mike Smith, Sean Payton, Raheem Morris, Ken Whisenhunt, Steve Spagnuolo... all pretty good first-time head coaches hired in recent years whom, I believe, look to be good coaches. That's over one-third of the league. I would say it's more about the individuals than whether or not they have been a head coach in the NFL before. Maybe Josh just wasn't ready yet, but I would not make that an indictment of other coaches without head coaching experience. Likewise, just because some head coaches have been successful in a second stint, I would not look at prior head coaching experience as a requirement. I like Rivera and Harbough as HC candidates in Denver, but I also like Gruden and Cowher. Not so enamored with Fassell or Kubiak. Given that we are looking to structure the team with a strong GM, it kind of takes the big names with prior HC experience out of the running for us leaving us with second tier guys. That is why I am looking more at guys like Rivera and Harbough as good fits in Denver.

fontaine

12-18-2010, 04:53 AM

the only way I would be fine with Kubiak is if the following occurs:

1. A valid GM is first in place
2. Dennison comes along
3. A good DC is hired on (and no, Wade Phillips isn't coming).

yes to all three please.

It's the only way I would want Kubiak here.

Ray Finkle

12-18-2010, 05:28 AM

Like against Baltimore when they scored multiple unanswered TDs on extremely long fields? I was impressed. (I bet HOU+3 in that game, so imagine how heartbroken I was by the ending.)

I'm skeptical of Kubiak because I doubt his upside, but I still need to look more closely.

you pick 1 game....notice how I said most?

what happened against Dallas, NY, the Chargers, Jets, and Jags?

errand

12-18-2010, 07:23 AM

Rex Ryan, Tony Sporano, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Todd Haley, Jim Schwartz, Mike Smith, Sean Payton, Raheem Morris, Ken Whisenhunt, Steve Spagnuolo... all pretty good first-time head coaches hired in recent years whom, I believe, look to be good coaches. That's over one-third of the league. I would say it's more about the individuals than whether or not they have been a head coach in the NFL before. Maybe Josh just wasn't ready yet, but I would not make that an indictment of other coaches without head coaching experience. .

..not to mention owners that had patience enough to allow them to install their culture, schemes and players. Rome, nor playoff contenders are built in a day.....

meangene

12-18-2010, 07:59 AM

..not to mention owners that had patience enough to allow them to install their culture, schemes and players. Rome, nor playoff contenders are built in a day.....

I agree. We have been putting band-aids on our roster for years and wallowing in mediocrity rather than rebuilding talent and depth through the draft. Sometimes you have to take a step back before moving forward. Our rebuilding process has been drastically set back by years of poor roster management.

broncsyanks

12-18-2010, 01:16 PM

1st choice is cowhler, gruden, parcells, then kubiak

Al Wilson

12-18-2010, 10:41 PM

The last time we were competitive was when Kubiak was here. People seem to forget how great Plummer was playing, and how efficient our offense was when Kubiak was calling the plays. Remember when Houston hired him, and Plummer & the offense sucked that year? Still remember everyone calling it the 'Nintendo Offense', but sure as hell most of them wish we still had it now. I hope Kubiak comes back here and leads this offense with Tebow as his QB. There is lots of potential here.

Popps

12-19-2010, 12:13 AM

You realize there is another element to football called "defense," right? And the Texans D is as soft as a marshmellow. Also, the Texans run offense gets shut down when they play physical defenses, jsut like ours did the last decade Shanny was here.

The Texans are a joke and Kubiak has shown absolutely nothing as a head coach over a very long sample-period.

Hopefully we've got enough sense to look elsewhere. I can't honestly think of many worse options that would be legitimate candidates.

Maybe Houston will retain him and save us all the worry.

Bronco Yoda

12-19-2010, 12:54 AM

Since Bowlen likes to give the power to just one person...

This is all we need!

http://www.damonchernavsky.com/Jokes/Chuck_Norris_Facts/Chuck-Norris.jpg

KipCorrington25

12-19-2010, 11:35 AM

Houston is imploding today and now the on field fight between teammates I think there is no way he's not fired now.

CEH

12-19-2010, 11:38 AM

Give me Perry Fewell and let's build up this defense.

fontaine

12-19-2010, 11:39 AM

On second thought, forget Kubiak as HC, maybe as OC but I dont want him leading this team.

errand

01-08-2011, 07:27 AM

The Texans are a joke and Kubiak has shown absolutely nothing as a head coach over a very long sample-period.

Hopefully we've got enough sense to look elsewhere. I can't honestly think of many worse options that would be legitimate candidates.

Maybe Houston will retain him and save us all the worry.

Kubiak unfortunately has followed in the footsteps of his mentor Shanahan....very good to great offense, no defense. Defense wins championships...there's a reason cliche's like that are quoted often....because they're true.

Texans brought in Wade to fix the defense, and though he's not that great as a head coach, Wade is a pretty good DC....he's generally had good to great success running defense over his career...just like McDaniels might have been over his head as our HC...but nobody can deny he can coach QB's...look at what he's done with Brady, Cassell, and Orton....makes me think that Tebow would be a very good player, but unfortunately we fired the one guy who could coach him.

Hopefully whoever we get as our top dog will bring in a very good QB coach to develop the kid, and build a defense that'll keep the games close until he becomes the beast we all hope he'll be.

LetsGoBroncos

01-08-2011, 07:36 AM

Bring in Jimmy Johnson. He still has "it".

Yes!!! I've been saying that. He is what we need in a head coach. A guy who has been there, and has leadership but doesn't micromanage.

Cito Pelon

01-08-2011, 07:44 AM

So what is the list of fired HC's now? Cable, Mangini?

bowtown

01-08-2011, 07:57 AM

Bring in Jimmy Johnson. He still has "it".

Is this what you mean?

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strafen

01-08-2011, 08:00 AM

So what is the list of fired HC's now? Cable, Mangini?Wade Phillips, Mike Singletary, Brad Childress, John Fox

Cito Pelon

01-08-2011, 10:39 AM

Wade Phillips, Mike Singletary, Brad Childress, John Fox

I meant AFTER the season ended. Not the "Coaching Carousel" expected. Not as many vacancies as expected, and therefore not as many assistant coaches available for hire.

My point is, there are less coaching staff's in turmoil than expected, therefore there is a smaller pool of assistant coaches that Denver can add. With Denver potentially adding a new HC, it's better if he has a larger pool of assistant coaches that he can add to his staff, better to have more competition for the assistant jobs.

txtebow

01-08-2011, 12:12 PM

Steve Spagnuolo! Oh wait.........

bloodsunday

01-10-2011, 08:36 AM

tsiguy96

01-10-2011, 08:38 AM

So he got one of them right!

ive heard fox in cleveland too. not done yet obviously but it was said hell get major consideration.

UberBroncoMan

01-10-2011, 08:39 AM

So he got one of them right!

Looking like Fox in Cleavland so that would make two, with the others undecided so far.

TonyR

01-10-2011, 08:42 AM

So he got one of them right!

To be fair, Kubiak not being fired in Houston potentially eliminated two of them.

Dedhed

01-10-2011, 08:52 AM

To be fair, Kubiak not being fired in Houston potentially eliminated two of them.

I wouldn't call that fair. Fair would be counting those blunders double because he missed didn't even get the firing right.

TonyR

01-10-2011, 08:54 AM

I wouldn't call that fair. Fair would be counting those blunders double because he missed didn't even get the firing right.

He didn't necessarily make a prediction. He said if Kubiak got fired Cowher was a possibility in Houston and Kubiak was a possibility in Denver. We'll never know because Kubiak didn't get fired.

Dedhed

01-10-2011, 09:21 AM

He didn't necessarily make a prediction. He said if Kubiak got fired Cowher was a possibility in Houston and Kubiak was a possibility in Denver. We'll never know because Kubiak didn't get fired.

So, flinging crap, some stuck?

Mile High Shack

01-10-2011, 09:26 AM

So, flinging crap, some stuck?

something, something, something, Shakespeare, Monkeys, something, something

TonyR

01-10-2011, 09:26 AM

So, flinging crap, some stuck?

He's a journalist. Journalists write stuff. They don't always have all the info or facts so some of what they write ends up being flung crap. He offered some early speculation and most of it didn't end up being right. I don't know why some people have so much difficulty with this stuff. As long as you keep reading it they'll keep writing it. So if you hate it so much I suggest you stop reading it, and if you do read it stop taking it so seriously. All the anger and hate just isn't worth it at the end of the day.

Play2win

01-10-2011, 09:35 AM

He's a journalist. Journalists write stuff. They don't always have all the info or facts so some of what they write ends up being flung crap. He offered some early speculation and most of it didn't end up being right. I don't know why some people have so much difficulty with this stuff. As long as you keep reading it they'll keep writing it. So if you hate it so much I suggest you stop reading it, and if you do read it stop taking it so seriously. All the anger and hate just isn't worth it at the end of the day.

I think SH*T would be a more proper term. It used to be that journalists wrote stuff (both good and bad), anymore they just write sh*t.

Gutless Drunk

01-10-2011, 12:28 PM

gyldenlove

01-10-2011, 12:29 PM

Josh McDaniels isn't only Denver coach Minnesota likes. Broncos special teams coach Mike Priefer interviewing for same job today w/ Vikings.

http://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/24555491514388480

Woohoo, please get the job, please please please.

edog24

01-10-2011, 12:33 PM

meangene

01-10-2011, 01:38 PM

errand

01-18-2011, 08:36 AM

Man, they are dumbasses. We should be able to fleece them on a deal for Orton. :approve:

Well if McDaniels ends up as Vikes OC, why wouldn't they try to acquire Orton to run his offense (he ran it pretty well in my opinion)...or Tebow for that matter?

all i know is that I don't want the Broncos to go into camp with a QB controversy. It's never been productive anywhere else, so i doubt it'll work out here either. Get rid of one, let him move on and give the guy you keep all the tools and coaching he'll need to make us relevant on the field again......and please build a defense that'll keep games close at least.