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mkporter
12-13-2010, 10:39 AM
PFW has a pretty good article on the McD debacle. Not just a regurgitation of the usual story. Pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.


Too much, too soon.

To a man, those four words aptly summed up the thoughts of league insiders we talked to this past week regarding the firing last Monday of 34-year-old Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels.

It certainly didn't look like McDaniels was in over his head when he raised eyebrows leaguewide after winning his first six games as a head coach, triggering "Boy Genius" proclamations that couldn't have been more premature.
Much more at:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/12/13/down-and-out-in-denver

Chris
12-13-2010, 10:46 AM
I think McD becomes OC somewhere other than NE to prove he can do it without Bellichick.

DenverBrit
12-13-2010, 10:50 AM
Some valid points. Too much power and responsibility at a young age and without HC experience.
A strong GM could have made a world of difference.

"McDaniels is one of the best offensive minds in football, but he was not a football (evaluator)," said one NFL personnel executive. "Denver knows the mistake it made. It's challenging enough coaching a team for the first time at his age with all that is involved nowadays with the position, handling your assistants. You can't do it all. You have to be able to empower people in your organization, put your ego aside and train them to be efficient. There is not enough time to do it all, let alone to handle the personnel side.

"You can look at it and say that Josh McDaniels failed. I look at it and say the Broncos failed Josh by putting him in a position in which he could never be successful — and I think the owner came to that realization."

Time to move on.

oubronco
12-13-2010, 10:58 AM
Time to move on.

And they better not make the same mistake

broncosteven
12-13-2010, 11:05 AM
To OP, can you change the thread title to "10 things to do in Denver when your dead"?

DenverBrit
12-13-2010, 11:13 AM
And they better not make the same mistake

Surely Bowlen has learned from his mistakes.

If not, then perhaps it is time to sell and find a sunny beach.

supermanhr9
12-13-2010, 11:13 AM
I agree,,, good article

mkporter
12-13-2010, 11:15 AM
To OP, can you change the thread title to "10 things to do in Denver when your dead"?

That's a good tagline for the season.

mkporter
12-13-2010, 11:19 AM
And they better not make the same mistake

I really hope the lesson that they take for this whole episode is that they need a better football operations management structure. What annoys me is that they figured this out when they dumped Shanahan, and didn't do anything about it. Too much organizational inertia I guess. You gotta have somebody driving to make these changes, you can't just sit back and hope it happens.

~Crash~
12-13-2010, 11:24 AM
Too much, too soon.

this is about the speed of it . to bad he could not work with some better coach's

TonyR
12-13-2010, 11:27 AM
I know some people will like this:

"If I am Denver, I'm looking within the division for the best defensive coordinator," the personnel exec told PFW. "I'd be taking a hard look at (Chargers defensive coordinator) Ron Rivera. They have gone back and forth between 3-4 and 4-3 fronts. Rivera has run both. He'll look at his personnel, and he'll run whatever works best. It sounds easy, but most coaches cannot do that. They only coach what they know, and are very stuck in their ways."

DarkHorse30
12-13-2010, 11:28 AM
McDaniels playcalling in Denver was predictible, trixy and moronic. Why does he still get credit for being an offensive genius? Unless you mean a genius at being offensive......

Tombstone RJ
12-13-2010, 11:30 AM
I really hope the lesson that they take for this whole episode is that they need a better football operations management structure. What annoys me is that they figured this out when they dumped Shanahan, and didn't do anything about it. Too much organizational inertia I guess. You gotta have somebody driving to make these changes, you can't just sit back and hope it happens.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Ellis does not want to jeopardize his position with the Broncos by bringing in a real GM. This is why they saddled McD with way too much power because Ellis is not a real GM and he had no ability to mentor or help McD with all the reponsibilities that were thrown on McD's shoulders.

Hire a real GM and I'm pretty sure Ellis's position becomes expendable. Hence, McD and the current fiasco.

BroncoLifer
12-13-2010, 11:35 AM
Surely Bowlen has learned from his mistakes.



He has learned from his mistakes. And don't call him Shirley.

TheReverend
12-13-2010, 11:48 AM
That was a ridiculously good write up. Reps for finding it.

broncosteven
12-13-2010, 12:44 PM
I know some people will like this:

I would take Chico as a DC but don't want him here as an HC

DenverBrit
12-13-2010, 02:13 PM
He has learned from his mistakes. And don't call him Shirley.

Ok, Pat it is.

http://threadforthought.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/SNLs-non-determinate-sexed-Pat.jpg