i think i want mike nolan..

[tsiguy96]

it makes perfect sense, hes been in denver twice, has a good read on the players we have already so less player eval and acclimation period will be required, hes been a HC once, albeit unsuccessful. his defenses are usually pretty good (providing he stays aggressive) when hes a coordinator, and he showed early last year that his teams are capable of winning, though down the stretch they straight sucked.

any objections?

[BroncoInferno]

I object. If the new coach wants to bring him to be the DC, then great. But as HC? No thanks. There was little to be impress by during his stint as HC in SF.

[Caveat Lector]

it makes perfect sense, hes been in denver twice, has a good read on the players we have already so less player eval and acclimation period will be required, hes been a HC once, albeit unsuccessful. his defenses are usually pretty good (providing he stays aggressive) when hes a coordinator, and he showed early last year that his teams are capable of winning, though down the stretch they straight sucked.

any objections?

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/21540/a-denver-candidate-to-keep-an-eye-on

That's one sale for 'Fat' Bill Williamson...

[tsiguy96]

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/21540/a-denver-candidate-to-keep-an-eye-on

That's one sale for 'Fat' Bill Williamson...

i read that previously, sorta solidified probably my top choice for HC. if they could get harbaugh though, and hes anything like his brother, you gotta do it.

[Doggcow]

From a Hoodie to a Suity? IDK! That's some culture shock!

[serious hops]

any objections?

Lots. Some guys are just better coordinators.

[HEAV]

Part of the McDaniels hire (that I liked) was the addition of Nolan. I felt if Josh failed, which he did, we could turn to Nolan as an interm coach. But when he left....

I love coach Nolan and didn't want the guy to leave/be forced out. With all the drama this franchise has seen the past few years...well it needs a ass whipping.

Give me Nolan.

[Bronco Yoda]

it makes perfect sense, hes been in denver twice, has a good read on the players we have already so less player eval and acclimation period will be required, hes been a HC once, albeit unsuccessful. his defenses are usually pretty good (providing he stays aggressive) when hes a coordinator, and he showed early last year that his teams are capable of winning, though down the stretch they straight sucked.

any objections?

Nolan is a class act. I didn't watch many 9er games but I do know they didn't do well. They had no talent either. The players seems to respect enough.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Part of the McDaniels hire (that I liked) was the addition of Nolan. I felt if Josh failed, which he did, we could turn to Nolan as an interm coach. But when he left....

I love coach Nolan and didn't want the guy to leave/be forced out. With all the drama this franchise has seen the past few years...well it needs a ass whipping.

Give me Nolan.

Sorry histroy correction. He didn't leave. He was forced out by the little dick"tater".

[Crushaholic]

I want Nolan back, as DC...

[KevinJames]

NOlan THANKS

[gyldenlove]

I object. If the new coach wants to bring him to be the DC, then great. But as HC? No thanks. There was little to be impress by during his stint as HC in SF.

In all fairness his successor is not exactly lighting things up down there either, after all even Rembrandt couldn't make a painting with just 1 color.

[rbackfactory80]

I think he's married.

[sirhcyennek81]

You want Nolan as what? A snuggle buddy? A guy to play tummy swords with?

...I love vague thread titles. Just teasing, Tsi.

:Broncos:

[broncs2bowl]

No one cares who you want

[Cito Pelon]

Nolan? Hell, I don't know. He didn't look so good in SF. That team stunk when he got there, stunk when he left, still stinks now.

Man, I don't know what the f is going on. Whomever they pick is fine with me. This team hasn't done jack**** since 1998. I supported Shanny as much as I could, I supported Josh as much as I could, and I'll support the next guy as much as I can.

The killer of seasons since 1998 has been the defense. Shanny couldn't build it - fired. Josh didn't build it - fired. Nolan? Who knows? I don't. I just roll with the punches.

[Popps]

We could do way worse than Nolan. Maybe not my first choice, but not a bad one, imo.

[extralife]

I've been leaning toward Nolan as well. There's no one I'm super excited about, but I guess I'd rather have Nolan than Kubiak. I don't think Nolan would come back here as DC, but this team won 6 games in a row when Josh left him alone to work with the defense. That has to count for something. I mean, we need help on that side of the ball. We need a commitment to being a good defensive team. And of course a decent chunk of our current players are familiar with his system and all.

[meangene]

If we are going with a current NFL defensive coordinator, my choice would be Ron Rivera. Dude has been successful in Chicago and San Diego running both a 4-3 and a 3-4. I like his agressiveness and that he adapts his scheme to his personnel. He is familiar with the Denver roster and the AFC West as a whole. His chance to be a head coach is long overdue. Plus, it hurts the Chargers.

[Kaylore]

I'd be ok with Nolan if that's what the new GM wants.

[The MVPlaya]

Yeah, let's hire a coach with a .327 coaching record after 3.5 season.

1st off, anybody who wants Nolan does not know ****. Absolutely nothing.

I mean do you guys follow ANY other teams AT ALL? Honestly.

Mike Nolan would be the most ignorant hire... sadly enough Kubiak would make more sense.

I mean do you ****ers follow any other team? Did you completely miss his stint with the niners from 05-08? Are you guys just ****ing oblivious to the rest of the NFL?

[The MVPlaya]

If some of you had just watched some of those games... please just go ask any Niners fan or go to any Niners forum and tell them you want Nolan as your Hc.

Oh yeah I'll be cool with Nolan he did good for us at DC (even though we got torched on the run at the end of the season)... and he's doing a decent job in Miami, ok yeah I'll be comfortable with that hire...

Damn do you idiots have any logical cell in your brains?

[rbackfactory80]

Yeah, let's hire a coach with a .327 coaching record after 3.5 season.

1st off, anybody who wants Nolan does not know ****. Absolutely nothing.

I mean do you guys follow ANY other teams AT ALL? Honestly.

Mike Nolan would be the most ignorant hire... sadly enough Kubiak would make more sense.

I mean do you ****ers follow any other team? Did you completely miss his stint with the niners from 05-08? Are you guys just ****ing oblivious to the rest of the NFL?

So its OK now to use win percentage as an argument against Nolan but against McD it's not? I don't get you man, you are a walking contradiction.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

I've been leaning toward Nolan as well. There's no one I'm super excited about, but I guess I'd rather have Nolan than Kubiak. I don't think Nolan would come back here as DC, but this team won 6 games in a row when Josh left him alone to work with the defense. That has to count for something. I mean, we need help on that side of the ball. We need a commitment to being a good defensive team. And of course a decent chunk of our current players are familiar with his system and all.

agreed

[The MVPlaya]

Sorry histroy correction. He didn't leave. He was forced out by the little dick"tater".

Another dumbass, ignorant Broncos fan that yet cannot get his facts straight.

[The MVPlaya]

So its OK now to use win percentage as an argument against Nolan but against McD it's not? I don't get you man, you are a walking contradiction.

When did I say it's not ok to use it against McDaniels? WTF? I've talked about his losing season in many of my posts, why are you making **** up? Are desperate?

Mike Nolan had 3.5 seasons compare to McDaniels <2. Nolan had a losing season, EVERY season. Do any of you ****in retards wonder why the Niners are set back so far? Do you ****in realize NOLAN WAS THE COACH BEFORE SINGLETARY?

[Taco John]

I could go for Nolan. I think I'd prefer either Kubiak or Gruden over Nolan, but if that didn't work out, I'd be happy with Nolan as another option. I'd also be happy if we got Harbaugh. I'd be a little nervous - I'm not so sure about having another experiment in Denver. But it would sure be an interesting one.

[tsiguy96]

When did I say it's not ok to use it against McDaniels? WTF? I've talked about his losing season in many of my posts, why are you making **** up? Are desperate?

Mike Nolan had 3.5 seasons compare to McDaniels <2. Nolan had a losing season, EVERY season. Do any of you ****in retards wonder why the Niners are set back so far? Do you ****in realize NOLAN WAS THE COACH BEFORE SINGLETARY?

lots of guys are successful in their second stint, not their first.

[rbackfactory80]

When did I say it's not ok to use it against McDaniels? WTF? I've talked about his losing season in many of my posts, why are you making **** up? Are desperate?

Mike Nolan had 3.5 seasons compare to McDaniels <2. Nolan had a losing season, EVERY season. Do any of you ****in retards wonder why the Niners are set back so far? Do you ****in realize NOLAN WAS THE COACH BEFORE SINGLETARY?

Go read you posts in the "lack of commitment thread". Everytime someone brings up McD's record you attack them. The only consistency you show is being a dvckhead.

I realize who the coach of the niners was. I guess McD shouldn't get another chance either because of the results we had here. Give me a break.

[long beach bronco]

Bring in Nolan or a defensive minded coach and bring in Wade Phillips for DC.

[The MVPlaya]

lots of guys are successful in their second stint, not their first.

Is there a coach that was as bad as Nolan that was successful in his 2nd stint?

And please, look at the context before using general statements as above.

If you had actually known or seen the niners during those years, you'd know you have no idea what the **** you're talking about other than a dumbass statement of, oh coaches do better their 2nd time around...

What a great basis to hiring a new coach... that's some solid ground right to hire right there for you claim. LOL

The point is, you have to look into the context and details, not just some general and vague statement of, COACHES HAVE BEEN GOOD THE 2ND TIME.

[Cito Pelon]

We could do way worse than Nolan. Maybe not my first choice, but not a bad one, imo.

Is the guy gonna wear silk ties again? Someone asked above, trade a hoodie for a silk tie? It's a good question. Nolan didn't know how to walk the sideline as an HC. Maybe he gets it the next time around. Seems like we're talking a lot about potential HC's that "get it" the next time on the sideline.

I'm thinking maybe I'd like a Dan Reeves type for the next HC. An NFL player, went through the coaching ranks. Rick Dennison fits that profile.

[The MVPlaya]

Go read you posts in the "lack of commitment thread". Everytime someone brings up McD's record you attack them. The only consistency you show is being a dvckhead.

I realize who the coach of the niners was. I guess McD shouldn't get another chance either because of the results we had here. Give me a break.

Ok... are you claiming there is no difference in my argument of, McDaniels never got a fair shot to Nolan coaching 3+ seasons with a .327 record?

In 1 argument, we're talking about firing someone whereas another we're talking about hiring. Do you ask your mom why you use a spoon for corn and not for your steak? I'm pretty sure you're not this dumb.

And I'm not saying Nolan doesn't deserve another shot. I'm just saying no one has any solid point... If ANYONE even saw the niners when he was there they would know.

Nolan isn't coming here anyways, so I'm out of this thread.

[Cito Pelon]

I could go for Nolan. I think I'd prefer either Kubiak or Gruden over Nolan, but if that didn't work out, I'd be happy with Nolan as another option. I'd also be happy if we got Harbaugh. I'd be a little nervous - I'm not so sure about having another experiment in Denver. But it would sure be an interesting one.

What do you think about Dennison's potential as an HC?

[SoCalBronco]

He'd be a fine DC for Kubiak or Gruden.

[tsiguy96]

Is there a coach that was as bad as Nolan that was successful in his 2nd stint?

And please, look at the context before using general statements as above.

If you had actually known or seen the niners during those years, you'd know you have no idea what the **** you're talking about other than a dumbass statement of, oh coaches do better their 2nd time around...

What a great basis to hiring a new coach... that's some solid ground right to hire right there for you claim. LOL

The point is, you have to look into the context and details, not just some general and vague statement of, COACHES HAVE BEEN GOOD THE 2ND TIME.

you have a very, very strong hatred of mike nolan, you sound like go_broncos when talking about mcdaniels. relax.

[Dedhed]

I want Nolan back, as DC...

I want Dumervil back.

Oh, and I object to Nolan as HC.

[rbackfactory80]

Ok... are you claiming there is no difference in my argument of, McDaniels never got a fair shot to Nolan coaching 3+ seasons with a .327 record?

In 1 argument, we're talking about firing someone whereas another we're talking about hiring. Do you ask your mom why you use a spoon for corn and not for your steak? I'm pretty sure you're not this dumb.

And I'm not saying Nolan doesn't deserve another shot. I'm just saying no one has any solid point... If ANYONE even saw the niners when he was there they would know.

Nolan isn't coming here anyways, so I'm out of this thread.

The analogy sucks but not as bad as you choosing to use wins and losses only when they support your case. In football they're always relevant.

[The MVPlaya]

you have a very, very strong hatred of mike nolan, you sound like go_broncos when talking about mcdaniels. relax.

I actually have nothing against him. He had a pretty aggressive defense that forced turnovers but relies heavily on blitz's to stop the run.

He's doing a nice job in Miami but they're running a 1 gap 3-4 over there more like Dallas', so it's different than what he was doing here.

As a DC I have nothing against him.. as a HC he's a different story.

[The MVPlaya]

The analogy sucks but not as bad as you choosing to use wins and losses only when they support your case. In football they're always relevant.

Sure. I've never shied away from talking about wins and losses with McDaniels. Like I said. I've discussed that in many of my posts.

If you really want to talk about W/L with McDaniels and Nolan, McDaniels has a better record and Nolan always had a losing season. He ALSO got 3+ seasons to build his team where as McDaniels got 2 off seasons where as Nolan got 4.

So really, there's not much to discuss.

[Taco John]

What do you think about Dennison's potential as an HC?


I don't personally think much of it.

[rbackfactory80]

Sure. I've never shied away from talking about wins and losses with McDaniels. Like I said. I've discussed that in many of my posts.

If you really want to talk about W/L with McDaniels and Nolan, McDaniels has a better record and Nolan always had a losing season. He ALSO got 3+ seasons to build his team where as McDaniels got 2 off seasons where as Nolan got 4.

So really, there's not much to discuss.

No but there is one striking similarity. Nolan just like McD was responsible for GM duties in Frisco for the majority of his tenure and just like McD it seemed to be too much.

Personally, I think most people over-value the coach and I would rather have a top of the line personnel guy. If you have that in place most coaches are pretty good game day guys and Nolan would be fine in an appropriate power structure.

[Taco John]

Running Nolan off was probably the move that hurt Josh the most. He should have been throwing himself at Nolan's feet begging him to stay. I'd wager Josh might still have a job right now if he had managed to keep from screwing with what Nolan was doing and running him off.

[gunns]

Another dumbass, ignorant Broncos fan that yet cannot get his facts straight.

Oh, you were there? Tell us more, what was said?

For a guy who throws facts and opinions at people seems you've got it all mixed up. Maybe why your panties are in a wad and you've resorted to your posts doing nothing more than throwing insults and calling people names. Now we have to determine if that's fact or opinion. Hmmm, why don't you tackle that one, since you KNOW.

[The MVPlaya]

No but there is one striking similarity. Nolan just like McD was responsible for GM duties in Frisco for the majority of his tenure and just like McD it seemed to be too much.

Personally, I think most people over-value the coach and I would rather have a top of the line personnel guy. If you have that in place most coaches are pretty good game day guys and Nolan would be fine in an appropriate power structure.

Nolan would be fine in an appropriate power structure and he would be a good game day guy? So where is your basis off this? Are you just simply making this off because you see he DC'd some defenses?

The 3 years he got to coach the team, his average win margin was 5 points. Do you realize how horrible that is? How the **** do you call that a good game day guy?

[The MVPlaya]

Oh, you were there? Tell us more, what was said?

For a guy who throws facts and opinions at people seems you've got it all mixed up. Maybe why your panties are in a wad and you've resorted to your posts doing nothing more than throwing insults and calling people names. Now we have to determine if that's fact or opinion. Hmmm, why don't you tackle that one, since you KNOW.

Well based on what I've read, Nolan had a choice to stay or go. McDaniels never forced him out.

And considering the official reports were that he decided leave because he wanted to be in Miami since Parcells and all that...

and not that McDaniels forced him to leave...

So I mean, those are the facts.

I believe there was actually speculation that Miami was tampering with him.

[broncosteven]

I don't think Nolan would take the low ball number Bowlen is likely to give based on the inital reports from the media.

I think we are getting a guy who is willing to take less money for his shot as an NFL HC. Probably a low number 2 year deal that if he shows potential gets resigned for bigger money.

[gunns]

Well based on what I've read, Nolan had a choice to stay or go. McDaniels never forced him out.


Ahhh, you believe everything you read. Yet, you say the Denver media sucks. Now I'm not saying you are wrong, but isn't the only way to get the actual facts is to be there? Not rely on what is probably someone else's opinion since they probably weren't there either?

And considering the official reports were that he decided leave because he wanted to be in Miami since Parcells and all that...


What makes them official? How does one know they are THE official report?

There is about 99.9% speculation, opinion on this board and in the media. Because you believe it doesn't mean it's fact and doesn't make other Bronco fans ****ing idiots or dumbasses because they believe something else.

[Taco John]

Nolan Out Because McDaniels Wanted to Blitz Less Often?According to


Ron Borges of the Boston Herald:

Less than two weeks after McDaniels acted in a way he would never tolerate from his players - like a petulant child - when he refused to provide his team its best chance to win its final game by benching Pro Bowl wide receiver Brandon Marshall and tight end Tony Scheffler, he called in defensive coordinator Mike Nolan and told him in no uncertain terms his Broncos would not be blitzing next season like they did this year.

The blitz, especially in some run situations, has long been a staple of Nolan’s approach to defense, and it has served him and his teams well. That included McDaniels’ Broncos, who were 29th in the league in defense a year ago but finished seventh this season, their first under Nolan, despite a late-season slide that coincided with a less than brilliant 2-8 finish to McDaniels’ roller coaster first season as a head coach.

There will not be a second season of that union because after that meeting Nolan and McDaniels decided what had always been the NFL equivalent of a shotgun marriage - McDaniels hired Nolan at the suggestion of the agent they both share, Bob LaMonte, despite the fact they barely knew each other - had to end.

Petulant Child? And suggesting that McDaniels only chose Nolan because of his agent's suggestion is a pretty staggering accusation. What do you think?



http://www.milehighreport.com/2010/1/20/1261307/nolan-out-because-mcdaniels-wanted

[lostknight]

it makes perfect sense, hes been in denver twice, has a good read on the players we have already so less player eval and acclimation period will be required, hes been a HC once, albeit unsuccessful. his defenses are usually pretty good (providing he stays aggressive) when hes a coordinator, and he showed early last year that his teams are capable of winning, though down the stretch they straight sucked.

any objections?

No worse the Kubes. I'd be for it, as long as he doesn't have GM responsibilities.

[lostknight]

Well based on what I've read, Nolan had a choice to stay or go. McDaniels never forced him out.

This is at odds with all of the reporting out there, including the Denver Post, which flat out stated that Nolan wasn't here anymore because McDaniels wanted to call the shots.

And considering the official reports were that he decided leave because he wanted to be in Miami since Parcells and all that...

I am sure that's a reason, but only a Polyanna would assume that's the whole story.

So I mean, those are the facts.


My source is the Denver Post. What's your statement that there was no showdown between McDaniels and Nolan?

[lostknight]

Running Nolan off was probably the move that hurt Josh the most. He should have been throwing himself at Nolan's feet begging him to stay. I'd wager Josh might still have a job right now if he had managed to keep from screwing with what Nolan was doing and running him off.

Probably, but that's like saying Hitler would have won World War II, if the Nazi's had not treated the Germans so poorly. They did, and they lost. He did, and they lost. I posted at the time that I thought part of the reason this was occurring was simply because Josh didn't want any competition for the HC job.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I wanted Nolan as the head coach from the time we hired the manchurian manchild. Sign me up.

[PRBronco]

This is at odds with all of the reporting out there, including the Denver Post, which flat out stated that Nolan wasn't here anymore because McDaniels wanted to call the shots.

I am sure that's a reason, but only a Polyanna would assume that's the whole story.



My source is the Denver Post. What's your statement that there was no showdown between McDaniels and Nolan?

Not a good way to back up an argument :-/

[rbackfactory80]

Nolan would be fine in an appropriate power structure and he would be a good game day guy? So where is your basis off this? Are you just simply making this off because you see he DC'd some defenses?

The 3 years he got to coach the team, his average win margin was 5 points. Do you realize how horrible that is? How the **** do you call that a good game day guy?

Reading Comprehension. I said he would be fine with a good GM which I feel is more important. Not to mention he is a D guy familiar with the team and the players strengths.

I am not pulling for him to get the job but if its between him and Kubiak I will take the former.

[extralife]

MVP is just flipping his **** because his boyfriend got fired and now we're talking about replacing him with the guy that we all know by now actually won six games for us. No need to engage him.

But I will say this: I follow the Niners. I've followed the Niners my whole life. I'm a fan. Nolan's record with the Niners is not much of a problem for me. The team he took over had <i>nothing</i>. Absolutely nothing. They had trouble giving that job away. He got saddled with Alex Smith and he rebuilt the defense into a successful unit before he was fired. He had problems taking the team from mediocre to good, and so he was fired. I blame him a decent amount for that. But I also know what he did for that team defensively. Throw in what he did for us defensively, the continuity thing, and yeah, I could see it.

[tsiguy96]

ps, there is no evidence that mcdaniels intervened after game 6 (and allowing 11ppg), or that nolan left because he blitzed too much. mcdaniels said we might see even more blitzing this year after wink was hired, when asked about system changes.

[broncosteven]

ps, there is no evidence that mcdaniels intervened after game 6 (and allowing 11ppg), or that nolan left because he blitzed too much. mcdaniels said we might see even more blitzing this year after wink was hired, when asked about system changes.

But we didn't see an increase in blitzes this year. Actually all blitzing seemed to go down since the 6-0 start, maybe Med has studied this and can comment. He would be the best source.

[The MVPlaya]

Ahhh, you believe everything you read. Yet, you say the Denver media sucks. Now I'm not saying you are wrong, but isn't the only way to get the actual facts is to be there? Not rely on what is probably someone else's opinion since they probably weren't there either?



What makes them official? How does one know they are THE official report?

There is about 99.9% speculation, opinion on this board and in the media. Because you believe it doesn't mean it's fact and doesn't make other Bronco fans ****ing idiots or dumbasses because they believe something else.


It was official that Nolan left the team to take the Miami contract, not that McDaniels fired him.

That IS the official report. Anything else is speculation.

[broncosteven]

It was official that Nolan left the team to take the Miami contract, not that McDaniels fired him.

That IS the official report. Anything else is speculation.

****ity **** ****

[tsiguy96]

But we didn't see an increase in blitzes this year. Actually all blitzing seemed to go down since the 6-0 start, maybe Med has studied this and can comment. He would be the best source.

they did seem to stop blitzing as much after week 6 last year, however the heavy blitz was atypical of nolan's typical defense prior to denver, if anything it seems they reverted more to nolan's usual style of defense.

they blitz a lot this year, but even the 5 and 6 man blitz all seem to get picked up, very often.

[FISH]

"i think i want mike nolan..."

hmmm.....see....now I want Scarlett Johansson

to each their own

[broncosteven]

"i think i want mike nolan..."

hmmm.....see....now I want Scarlett Johansson

to each their own

I had a thing for Christina Aguliara (sp?) until I saw a picture of her recently bloated and her hair fried from all the coloring. She looked like something that Spider would hit at a truck stop.

Why can't chicks stay 17 1/2 forever?

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I had a thing for Christina Aguliara (sp?) until I saw a picture of her recently bloated and her hair fried from all the coloring. She looked like something that Spider would hit at a truck stop.

Why can't chicks stay 17 1/2 forever?

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/092010/1284123330_chris-hansen-gif.gif

[strafen]

Nolan is a class act. I didn't watch many 9er games but I do know they didn't do well. They had no talent either. The players seems to respect enough.I don't think he had a good team in SF.
I thought the team he had, sucked regardless.

I tend to agree that some guys are better at coordinators...

[Taco John]

ps, there is no evidence that mcdaniels intervened after game 6 (and allowing 11ppg), or that nolan left because he blitzed too much. mcdaniels said we might see even more blitzing this year after wink was hired, when asked about system changes.

There is plenty of evidence... Most of it is anecdotal, but the record is there for anyone to examine.

[tsiguy96]

There is plenty of evidence... Most of it is anecdotal, but the record is there for anyone to examine.

so youre saying its all conjecture, there is no real evidence of anything other than...record? there is a million things that result in the record, but you wouild be silly to think that a head football coach would tell his DC to change something after allowing 11ppg through 6 games, no one would do that, regardless of how much you hate mcd, hes smarter than that.

[Taco John]

hey. Some people are willing to connect dots. Some people aren't.

I, for one, am not one who puts a lot of stock in coincidences. There's a pretty plausible story out there about why our defense went from looking great to looking outright terrible.

It doesn't reallt matter to me if the people who were in the tank for Josh all along accept the facts and connect the dots or not. I know what I have seen, and I'm ok with the plain rationalizations of those things.

[Cito Pelon]

I don't personally think much of it.

Dennison fits some profiles for HC.

[strafen]

I had a thing for Christina Aguliara (sp?) until I saw a picture of her recently bloated and her hair fried from all the coloring. She looked like something that Spider would hit at a truck stop.
Why can't chicks stay 17 1/2 forever?Haha!!! LOL ROFL!:strong:

[strafen]

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/092010/1284123330_chris-hansen-gif.gifHa! ROFL!

[Cito Pelon]

Running Nolan off was probably the move that hurt Josh the most. He should have been throwing himself at Nolan's feet begging him to stay. I'd wager Josh might still have a job right now if he had managed to keep from screwing with what Nolan was doing and running him off.

TJ, what evidence is there that Josh screwed with Nolan's system? In my opinion Nolan went for Ayers, Phonz, McBath, Bruton.

Are you saying it was Josh that went for Ayers, Phonz, McBath, Bruton?

[gunns]

It was official that Nolan left the team to take the Miami contract, not that McDaniels fired him.

That IS the official report. Anything else is speculation.

It was officially what we were told. I don't know that anyone has said he was fired, more that McD was the reason he left. The only fact there was that Miami offered him a job and he took it. What happened between him and McD is pure speculation on anyone's part, including yours.

[broncocalijohn]

Yeah, let's hire a coach with a .327 coaching record after 3.5 season.

1st off, anybody who wants Nolan does not know ****. Absolutely nothing.

I mean do you guys follow ANY other teams AT ALL? Honestly.

Mike Nolan would be the most ignorant hire... sadly enough Kubiak would make more sense.

I mean do you ****ers follow any other team? Did you completely miss his stint with the niners from 05-08? Are you guys just ****ing oblivious to the rest of the NFL?

So, is this going to be your schtick for now on? You the rightous poster who knows that everyone is a bunch of idiots because we canned your guy of McD and now you dont like Nolan as HC which many here have posted they would rather have someone else. Instead of going off on your soap box, you havent contributed one thing about who you would hire. Or do you suggest we re-hire McDaniels? Why dont you STFU and go find a board or circle jerk that caters to McDaniels lovers?

[Chris]

freudian slip

[footstepsfrom#27]

No

[McDman]

Tsi, you're in grad school now, I think it's time you capitalize your sentences.

[tsiguy96]

Tsi, you're in grad school now, I think it's time you capitalize your sentences.

waiting on my final class grade but think i got a 4.0 :yayaya:

[strafen]

Tsi, you're in grad school now, I think it's time you capitalize your sentences.I'll go on a limb and say english is not a requirement for graduation. (English Comp)

[Broncos_OTM]

When did I say it's not ok to use it against McDaniels? WTF? I've talked about his losing season in many of my posts, why are you making **** up? Are desperate?

Mike Nolan had 3.5 seasons compare to McDaniels <2. Nolan had a losing season, EVERY season. Do any of you ****in retards wonder why the Niners are set back so far? Do you ****in realize NOLAN WAS THE COACH BEFORE SINGLETARY?

You got anger issues man.. seriously.. Its a game man.. this is supposed to be fun

[Broncos_OTM]

Sure. I've never shied away from talking about wins and losses with McDaniels. Like I said. I've discussed that in many of my posts.

If you really want to talk about W/L with McDaniels and Nolan, McDaniels has a better record and Nolan always had a losing season. He ALSO got 3+ seasons to build his team where as McDaniels got 2 off seasons where as Nolan got 4.

So really, there's not much to discuss.

MCD would have had the chance for atleast another season if there hadnt been so much drama surrounding him. I liked MCD but he has along ways to go before soemone should consider him for a HC position again. I have no issue hireing Nolan as long as we get a strong OC under him. i would even consider letting wink stay

[Broncos_OTM]

Probably, but that's like saying Hitler would have won World War II, if the Nazi's had not treated the Germans so poorly. They did, and they lost. He did, and they lost. I posted at the time that I thought part of the reason this was occurring was simply because Josh didn't want any competition for the HC job.

They lost becauser they fought a war on 3 fronts and lost the war of attrition. bad analogy

[Swedish Extrovert]

Jon Gruden HC
Josh McDaniels OC
Mike Nolan DC
Anyone but Prifer at ST

hahahaha

[Chris]

hey. Some people are willing to connect dots. Some people aren't.

I, for one, am not one who puts a lot of stock in coincidences. There's a pretty plausible story out there about why our defense went from looking great to looking outright terrible.

It doesn't reallt matter to me if the people who were in the tank for Josh all along accept the facts and connect the dots or not. I know what I have seen, and I'm ok with the plain rationalizations of those things.

Never be a lawyer.

[elsid13]

Dennison fits some profiles for HC.

And if you remember he had very strong interview before they selected McDaniels. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the final candidates for the job. And 90% of the board will be pissed off, which pretty much ensure he would be the right choice.

[Broncos_OTM]

And if you remember he had very strong interview before they selected McDaniels. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the final candidates for the job. And 90% of the board will be pissed off, which pretty much ensure he would be the right choice.


Will he try and switch back to the ZBS if so yes i do not want to chang ethe scheme AGAIN

[elsid13]

Will he try and switch back to the ZBS if so yes i do not want to chang ethe scheme AGAIN

You do realize that every time run some type of ZB, right? And in his last year here Dennison started to incorporate more traps and pulls like McDaniels attempted to do. The modern NFL offense is hybrid of multiply schemes and ideas and one thing or another any more.

[Hamrob]

I'm not sold on Nolan. I thought he did a good job as DC...but, not a great job. I think he's doing an o.k. job in Miami...but, not a great job there either. Add, the duties of the full team...and boom...you get what you got in SanFran. No thanks.

If you wanted Nolan...you would need one of the best O-coordinators in the game (Kubiak?) and you would have to allow that coordinator full control of the offense.

Then, maybe Nolan would work as a HC.

[Cito Pelon]

And if you remember he had very strong interview before they selected McDaniels. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the final candidates for the job. And 90% of the board will be pissed off, which pretty much ensure he would be the right choice.

Yeah, I remember. I thought he was one of the best candidates.

[Dagmar]

I'll go on a limb and say english is not a requirement for graduation. (English Comp)
If bigotry was you'd be a doctor by now.

[Broncos_OTM]

You do realize that every time run some type of ZB, right? And in his last year here Dennison started to incorporate more traps and pulls like McDaniels attempted to do. The modern NFL offense is hybrid of multiply schemes and ideas and one thing or another any more.

I also realize MCD was the coach. Who maybe wanted this from his run game?

[PRBronco]

What style of offense did Nolan try to run in SF? Let's look for answers more detailed than "bad", I remember that much.

[Chris]

What style of offense did Nolan try to run in SF? Let's look for answers more detailed than "bad", I remember that much.

very very bad

[55CrushEm]

Is there a coach that was as bad as Nolan that was successful in his 2nd stint?



Just about as bad.......Mike Shanahan was .400 (8-12) with the Raiders.

[Ray Finkle]

Things I would rather do than see Mike Nolan as HC.

1. Sit on a tac
2. Drink dip spit
3. Share a car ride with Bob
4. Test 9 Volt batteries on my tongue
5. Eat at white castle and then try to run a 5K without expelling the white castle first (those of you that have ever eaten white castle, no what I mean).
6. Drink flavored coffee...

[Man-Goblin]

Things I would rather do than see Mike Nolan as HC.

1. Sit on a tac
2. Drink dip spit
3. Share a car ride with Bob
4. Test 9 Volt batteries on my tongue
5. Eat at white castle and then try to run a 5K without expelling the white castle first (those of you that have ever eaten white castle, no what I mean).
6. Drink flavored coffee...

Add "take a shower with a plugged in toaster" and this pretty much sums up my feelings on Nolan and Kubiak.

[jhns]

I would love to have Nolan back as a coordinator. I couldn't believe McDaniels couldn't work with him in the first place. The guy did great things with **** on defense. McDaniels should have been sucking him off and begging him to stay.

That said, I don't think I would want him as a head coach. Maybe if we put the right supporting cast around him.

[broncsyanks]

no thanks. as DC hell yes. but i think we need a coach with a track record in the NFL and a good one at that

[razorwire77]

I'd be ok with Nolan, as long as he's paired with a strong OC and GM. (Bellick as OC or maybe even an outside the box offensive mind like Boise's Bryan Harsin) Nolan's top priority would be acquiring the players necessary to field an effective 3-4. Lastly bring in Urban Meyer as a part time QB coach/assistant OC to aid Harsin in implementing an effective spread.

[Mountain Bronco]

Of course I object. They guy hasn't had a relavent defense in over 6 years and is a failed head coach.

Not what I want.

[UberBroncoMan]

Lots. Some guys are just better coordinators.

Completely agreed. Some are better as position coaches too (look at Slowik).

[Drek]

What style of offense did Nolan try to run in SF? Let's look for answers more detailed than "bad", I remember that much.

He didn't. His goal was to just hire an OC and let him run the show. As a result he saw a revolving door of OCs who never installed a stable system.

Mike Nolan as an HC is the exact opposite extreme of bad as McDaniels. McDaniels took on too much and couldn't delegate. Nolan wanted to delegate everything but the defense and not be bothered. There were even strong rumors his last year in SF that he never talked to Alex Smith, the guy playing QB a good chunk of the season. As an HC that doesn't work.

[listopencil]

Nolan? Hell, I don't know. He didn't look so good in SF. That team stunk when he got there, stunk when he left, still stinks now.

Man, I don't know what the f is going on. Whomever they pick is fine with me. This team hasn't done jack**** since 1998. I supported Shanny as much as I could, I supported Josh as much as I could, and I'll support the next guy as much as I can.

The killer of seasons since 1998 has been the defense. Shanny couldn't build it - fired. Josh didn't build it - fired. Nolan? Who knows? I don't. I just roll with the punches.



Yep.

[listopencil]

Things I would rather do than see Mike Nolan as HC.

1. Sit on a tac
2. Drink dip spit
3. Share a car ride with Bob
4. Test 9 Volt batteries on my tongue
5. Eat at white castle and then try to run a 5K without expelling the white castle first (those of you that have ever eaten white castle, no what I mean).
6. Drink flavored coffee...

I actually like doing that. It's fun.

[Ray Finkle]

I actually like doing that. It's fun.

tried to get my four year old to try that the other night. She looked at me like I had three heads.....

[Swedish Extrovert]

it makes perfect sense, hes been in denver twice, has a good read on the players we have already so less player eval and acclimation period will be required, hes been a HC once, albeit unsuccessful. his defenses are usually pretty good (providing he stays aggressive) when hes a coordinator, and he showed early last year that his teams are capable of winning, though down the stretch they straight sucked.

any objections?

There's nothing wrong with wanting Mike Nolan... but if it really bugs you, you can check this guy out:

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