Prediction for Coach McDaniels next team

[The MVPlaya]

New York Jets.

The other teams in contention will be Dolphins and Ravens.

The variable I'm putting in place are, that Josh will be the #1 OC on the market (and that he will be an OC).

Jets

Brian Schottenheimer (OC of the Jets) has not met expectations this season. With the amount of talent he has on offense, they have been underachieving. Regardless, I think this is the last season for Brian. If he pulls it together, he'll be up for a HC gig. If not, I think NY Jets look for another route at OC. They just gave him a 2 year extension, isn't a big deal though. He was in a contract year in 09...

McDaniels would fit perfect in almost every way. Unless Jets want to stick with a run heavy, smash mouth offense, McDaniels would be the way to go. They have an elite power blocking oline already in set, talent on offense at every position... all he needs to do is get Sanchez playing better and that's his specialty.

Brian Schottenheimer has been with the Jets for 5 years, also... a bit long for an OC who hasn't dominated. McDaniels would give the Jets and extra edge they need over the Pats. Jets don't really care about the history of anyone either as far as public opinion.

If Jets want someone, they'll get that person, period.

Dolphins
Their OC is probably getting canned after this season. Henning is not a good OC, fans have been calling for his head like Slowik. This is another run heavy team but the they don't mind airing it out...that was their original plan until Henne took a sh*t on the team. They don't really got the offensive pieces together either, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the running. Nolan might be a catalyst though.

Ravens
Similar situation to the Jets. Their offense has not been up to par. Mason just publicly announced his frustrations with the Ravens offense. They have too much talent on their team to not be a dominant offense they were suppose to be. If McDaniels had a choice between Ravens and Jets, Ravens look to be a better organization as a whole. He'd probably have more power on the Jets though...

Why does this matter? Well, the fastest way for McDaniels to get back on the HC route is to go to a great team and succeed at a national level. He'll want to go to a top team.

Why does this matter to you people? Which ever team he goes to, and if the Broncos face them... I'd just chalk up a loss right now.

[frerottenextelway]

Shame the XFL folded.

[55CrushEm]

New York Jets.

The other teams in contention will be Dolphins and Ravens.

The variable I'm putting in place are, that Josh will be the #1 OC on the market (and that he will be an OC).

Jets

Brian Schottenheimer (OC of the Jets) has not met expectations this season. With the amount of talent he has on offense, they have been underachieving. Regardless, I think this is the last season for Brian. If he pulls it together, he'll be up for a HC gig. If not, I think NY Jets look for another route at OC. They just gave him a 2 year extension, isn't a big deal though. He was in a contract year in 09...

McDaniels would fit perfect in almost every way. Unless Jets want to stick with a run heavy, smash mouth offense, McDaniels would be the way to go. They have an elite power blocking oline already in set, talent on offense at every position... all he needs to do is get Sanchez playing better and that's his specialty.

Brian Schottenheimer has been with the Jets for 5 years, also... a bit long for an OC who hasn't dominated. McDaniels would give the Jets and extra edge they need over the Pats.

If Jets want someone, they'll get that person, period.

Dolphins
Their OC is probably getting canned after this season. Henning is not a good OC, fans have been calling for his head like Slowik. This is another run heavy team but the they don't mind airing it out...that was their original plan until Henne took a sh*t on the team. They don't really got the offensive pieces together either, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the running. Nolan might be a catalyst though.

Ravens
Similar situation to the Jets. Their offense has not been up to par. Mason just publicly announced his frustrations with the Ravens offense. They have too much talent on their team to not be a dominant offense they were suppose to be. If McDaniels had a choice between Ravens and Jets, Ravens look to be a better organization as a whole. He'd probably have more power on the Jets though...

Why does this matter? Well, the fastest way for McDaniels to get back on the HC route is to go to a great team and succeed at a national level. He'll want to go to a top team.

Why does this matter to you people? Which ever team he goes to, and if the Broncos face them... I'd just chalk up a loss right now.

I think the Browns could be on the list. Holmgren/Mangini might want to bring him in. Although a peon at the time, McD and Mangini did work together at New England.

Then we could gear up for McGini Spygate III. :~ohyah!:

[bowtown]

I think the Jets is a pretty good bet.

[orangemonkey]

Hilarious! Patriots or some elite high school in Ohio are my two bets.

[The MVPlaya]

I think the Browns could be on the list. Holmgren/Mangini might want to bring him in. Although a peon at the time, McD and Mangini did work together at New England.

Then we could gear up for McGini Spygate III. :~ohyah!:

Thought about adding them, but if he has the other choices he'll go there. Browns aren't really about to contend for anything, don't have many offensive pieces together

Then you have Hillis lol

However, McDaniels did express interest in McCoy during the draft.

Now that I think about, Cleveland being in his home state... this could be a strong possibly.

[Goobzilla]

Montreal Alouettes

[bronco militia]

Unless Jets want to stick with a run heavy, smash mouth offense

that's Rex Ryan's style.

Hoody Jr will be back in New England next year

[Rabb]

after sorta' screwing the Pats verbally over the spygate thing recently...I bet it's not them

[The MVPlaya]

Unless Jets want to stick with a run heavy, smash mouth offense

that's Rex Ryan's style.

Hoody Jr will be back in New England next year

It would be surprising if he did go back to NE, but I'm not sure he could do that. A respectable opinion though.

Unlike the Broncos, the GM has say in that. If the FO/GM thinks McDaniels would take the offense to another level they'll do it and Rex will agree.

And if Rex really just wanted to be such a smash mouth team, I'm not sure why he stacked so much at the WR position.

[DarkHorse30]

I don't think McDaniels is going to be in the NFL. College coach in Ohio somewhere, close to his roots. He just isn't ready for the NFL.

[The MVPlaya]

I don't think McDaniels is going to be in the NFL. College coach in Ohio somewhere, close to his roots. He just isn't ready for the NFL.

Is this how dumb Broncos fans are? How did you come to that conclusion? Did
you simply just negate everything he did in NE? How about going 8-8 as a HC?

[WolfpackGuy]

Some middle school in Kerplakistan.

[Hogan11]

Shame the XFL folded.

The UFL is still out there, believe it or not.....for now anyways

[bronco militia]

Thought about adding them, but if he has the other choices he'll go there. Browns aren't really about to contend for anything, don't have many offensive pieces together

Then you have Hillis lol

However, McDaniels did express interest in McCoy during the draft.

Now that I think about, Cleveland being in his home state... this could be a strong possibly.

good points, but I think you and the author are a little off about Rex's brand of football. If you get a chance, check out this years Hard Knocks (HBO)

[The MVPlaya]

good points, but I think you and the author are a little off about Rex's brand of football. If you get a chance, check out this years Hard Knocks (HBO)

I saw it. What I saw was a GM who had more say.

Like I said, it's just my opinion... the formula of running the ball hasn't been a consistent SB formula for years.

[Broncos_OTM]

OC in dallas

[bowtown]

He just isn't ready for the NFL.

lulz. wut?

[Garcia Bronco]

I think he might be done in the NFL after all the cheating.

[The MVPlaya]

OC in dallas

Not with Garrett there.

[montrose]

It was already being tweeted last night he'll be the prize OC of the offseason (if he doesn't get another HC'ing gig which, crazy as it may seem to some, isn't impossible). If he does go back to coordinating, I think he'll look to a team with a defensive minded HC where he can run the O entirely.

[Rohirrim]

He'll be the Raiders OC next year. ;D

[The MVPlaya]

It was already being tweeted last night he'll be the prize OC of the offseason (if he doesn't get another HC'ing gig which, crazy as it may seem to some, isn't impossible). If he does go back to coordinating, I think he'll look to a team with a defensive minded HC where he can run the O entirely.

Jets...

Thats why I kind of ruled Ravens out because Harbough overlooks everything whereas Rex seems to just focus on defense.

[The MVPlaya]

He'll be the Raiders HC next year. ;D

Fixed.

[colonelbeef]

lmao, Josh McDaniels will not be the #1 OC candidate on the market.

He made the Broncos offense worse across the board.

How is the Patriots' offense doing since their OC left? How was it doing since before he was OC? Oh really, you say that it is playing as well as ever, and had won 3 superbowl while he was scrubbing jockstraps?

McDaniels, like all of the Pats assistants, is extremely overrated. That team is successful because of Belichick, Brady, and the people running the personnel department, end of story.

McDaniels will be a QB coach somewhere, mayyyyybe he gets OC on some crap team, Cleveland maybe.

[DarkHorse30]

Is this how dumb Broncos fans are? How did you come to that conclusion? Did
you simply just negate everything he did in NE? How about going 8-8 as a HC?

Yeah, I did negate much of what he did in NE because of his inability to call a decent game in Denver. Consider how successful NE has been since Josh left, was he a major cog in that wheel? He took over Charlie Weis's offense, but how much did he actually contribute?

Maybe I misspoke, he could be an OC in the NFL, but a HC job seems pretty remote, considering how much he struggled in Denver. Too many irons in the fire.

[Mile High Shack]

Yeah, I did negate much of what he did in NE because of his inability to call a decent game in Denver. Consider how successful NE has been since Josh left, was he a major cog in that wheel? He took over Charlie Weis's offense, but how much did he actually contribute?

Maybe I misspoke, he could be an OC in the NFL, but a HC job seems pretty remote, considering how much he struggled in Denver. Too many irons in the fire.

I'd almost say NE is better now since he left, they have a running game again

[The MVPlaya]

I'd almost say NE is better now since he left, they have a running game again

NE was ranked 6th in the league in rushing averaging 142.2 ypg. in 2008 when he left... Matt Cassel at QB.

Somehow it was better than the historical NE offense of 2007.

Ranked 13th in the league at 115.6 YPG.

This year?

Ranked 13 at 111.5 YPG.

How stupid this ****in Broncos nation is amuses me.

[The MVPlaya]

Yeah, I did negate much of what he did in NE because of his inability to call a decent game in Denver. Consider how successful NE has been since Josh left, was he a major cog in that wheel? He took over Charlie Weis's offense, but how much did he actually contribute?

Maybe I misspoke, he could be an OC in the NFL, but a HC job seems pretty remote, considering how much he struggled in Denver. Too many irons in the fire.

Last time NE was in the SB was with Josh McDaniels.

[WolfpackGuy]

The Pats really haven't seemed to miss him very much.

[The MVPlaya]

The Pats really haven't seemed to miss him very much.

Or they're able to just find good coaches? Groom good coaches? Maybe this is more a mark of Bill B?

Just because the whole damn organization fell to shambles after Kubiak left doesn't mean every other organization in the NFL operates the same way.

[HAT]

Don't know where he's off to next but it won't surprise me to eventually see him succeed Belichick in 5-6 years. (After a few years of OC'ing or QB coaching elsewhere)

[55CrushEm]

It was already being tweeted last night he'll be the prize OC of the offseason (if he doesn't get another HC'ing gig which, crazy as it may seem to some, isn't impossible). If he does go back to coordinating, I think he'll look to a team with a defensive minded HC where he can run the O entirely.

St. Louis would make sense, then. Imagine McD working with Sam Bradford.....

We already know that every QB McD touches turns to gold.

[worm]

The best thing he could do is stay out of the NFL for a year and enroll in an interpersonal skills curriculum.

Then hit the rest button and come back as an OC in 2012. He is young as has a lot of time to learn.

[Jetmeck]

Is this how dumb Broncos fans are? How did you come to that conclusion? Did
you simply just negate everything he did in NE? How about going 8-8 as a HC?

Well then by your own terms your not to bright. He was not in charge in NE, not a HC. He won 5 of his last 21 games or whatever
and acts like he is BILL COWHER......when in reality he has done nothing.

[srphoenix]

chiefs to keep hugging Todd Haley

[Jetmeck]

NE was ranked 6th in the league in rushing averaging 142.2 ypg. in 2008 when he left... Matt Cassel at QB.

Somehow it was better than the historical NE offense of 2007.

Ranked 13th in the league at 115.6 YPG.

This year?

Ranked 13 at 111.5 YPG.

How stupid this ****in Broncos nation is amuses me.

Easily amused ? Let me tell you a joke

[bowtown]

Don't know where he's off to next but it won't surprise me to eventually see him succeed Belichick in 5-6 years. (After a few years of OC'ing or QB coaching elsewhere)

Urban Meyer is going to succeed Belichick in closer to 2.

[yerner]

What about the Lingerie league? Mcdaniels can cross dress on the sidelines.

[DrFate]

He'll be lucky if his next job is QB coach in the NFL. He won't get an OC job - not right away. I'd be stunned if he ever got a head gig again.

[Mile High Shack]

NE was ranked 6th in the league in rushing averaging 142.2 ypg. in 2008 when he left... Matt Cassel at QB.

Somehow it was better than the historical NE offense of 2007.

Ranked 13th in the league at 115.6 YPG.

This year?

Ranked 13 at 111.5 YPG.

How stupid this ****in Broncos nation is amuses me.

Let's see how it turns out with 4 games left in the season, the Pats changed their style of offense when Moss left and it took a bit to get use to it.

I suggest you stop following the Broncos, I think the rest of us would be happy with it

http://wrotemeamanual.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/high_horse.jpg

[Mile High Shack]

Last time NE was in the SB was with Josh McDaniels.

he wasn't the offensive coordinator, I think he was a special assistant or something, pretty low level

amusing you would do that

[Uncle Bill]

lmao, Josh McDaniels will not be the #1 OC candidate on the market.

He made the Broncos offense worse across the board.

How is the Patriots' offense doing since their OC left? How was it doing since before he was OC? Oh really, you say that it is playing as well as ever, and had won 3 superbowl while he was scrubbing jockstraps?

McDaniels, like all of the Pats assistants, is extremely overrated. That team is successful because of Belichick, Brady, and the people running the personnel department, end of story.

McDaniels will be a QB coach somewhere, mayyyyybe he gets OC on some crap team, Cleveland maybe.

Doubtful. Not with Hillis over there, anyway...

[peacepipe]

New York Jets.

The other teams in contention will be Dolphins and Ravens.

The variable I'm putting in place are, that Josh will be the #1 OC on the market (and that he will be an OC).

Jets

Brian Schottenheimer (OC of the Jets) has not met expectations this season. With the amount of talent he has on offense, they have been underachieving. Regardless, I think this is the last season for Brian. If he pulls it together, he'll be up for a HC gig. If not, I think NY Jets look for another route at OC. They just gave him a 2 year extension, isn't a big deal though. He was in a contract year in 09...

McDaniels would fit perfect in almost every way. Unless Jets want to stick with a run heavy, smash mouth offense, McDaniels would be the way to go. They have an elite power blocking oline already in set, talent on offense at every position... all he needs to do is get Sanchez playing better and that's his specialty.

Brian Schottenheimer has been with the Jets for 5 years, also... a bit long for an OC who hasn't dominated. McDaniels would give the Jets and extra edge they need over the Pats. Jets don't really care about the history of anyone either as far as public opinion.

If Jets want someone, they'll get that person, period.

Dolphins
Their OC is probably getting canned after this season. Henning is not a good OC, fans have been calling for his head like Slowik. This is another run heavy team but the they don't mind airing it out...that was their original plan until Henne took a sh*t on the team. They don't really got the offensive pieces together either, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the running. Nolan might be a catalyst though.

Ravens
Similar situation to the Jets. Their offense has not been up to par. Mason just publicly announced his frustrations with the Ravens offense. They have too much talent on their team to not be a dominant offense they were suppose to be. If McDaniels had a choice between Ravens and Jets, Ravens look to be a better organization as a whole. He'd probably have more power on the Jets though...

Why does this matter? Well, the fastest way for McDaniels to get back on the HC route is to go to a great team and succeed at a national level. He'll want to go to a top team.

Why does this matter to you people? Which ever team he goes to, and if the Broncos face them... I'd just chalk up a loss right now.josh mcd & mike nolan back on the same tream? I think not.
jets are doing just fine.

[DBroncos4life]

Where ever he goes I hope he takes playa with him.

[broncosteven]

He will make a great OC, too bad we didn't hire him as an OC in 2008.

Now he is gone and I don't care where he lands.

[Br0nc0Buster]

he wasn't the offensive coordinator, I think he was a special assistant or something, pretty low level

amusing you would do that

no he was the offensive coordinator...

[Taco John]

Who cares where he goes?

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[bronco militia]

Who cares where he goes?

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baja wants him to coach in Oakland Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

[bowtown]

he wasn't the offensive coordinator, I think he was a special assistant or something, pretty low level

amusing you would do that

Ummmm... no.

[lostknight]

Josh in the Ravens as OC would be fairly evil.

[bowtown]

I think the best fit for Josh as an OC would either be Washington or Chicago.

[The MVPlaya]

St. Louis would make sense, then. Imagine McD working with Sam Bradford.....

We already know that every QB McD touches turns to gold.

Rams will probably want continuous coaching with Bradford... he's already having a successful year. Only way is if Rams OC leaves for a better position (HC).

[The MVPlaya]

Well then by your own terms your not to bright. He was not in charge in NE, not a HC. He won 5 of his last 21 games or whatever
and acts like he is BILL COWHER......when in reality he has done nothing.

So in order to have any sense of authority, you have to come in and avoid all your philosophies in order to try and win players over, and hopefully win games then at that point, you can coach how you'd like.

Man, you must have been raised like a loser.

[The MVPlaya]

he wasn't the offensive coordinator, I think he was a special assistant or something, pretty low level

amusing you would do that

Add you to that long list of dumbass Broncos fan with absolutely no insight on football. This is pathetic how many dumb fans are coming out out of the woodworks.

Last time NE went to the SB was in 2007 where they broke almost every historical record on offense... and went 16-0.

Who was the OC?

Go look it up for yourself... I don't even know why you would even make a comment like you did.

[The MVPlaya]

josh mcd & mike nolan back on the same tream? I think not.
jets are doing just fine.

Not really. Their offense has no been up to par.. they have a great record but we can't discount their heroic come backs.

If they bomb in the playoffs, Brian is leaving... if they hit gold, Brian is probably leavin too.

[TonyR]

I think the best fit for Josh as an OC would either be Washington or Chicago.

LOL I see what you did there...

[Ratboy]

Unless Jets want to stick with a run heavy, smash mouth offense

that's Rex Ryan's style.

Hoody Jr will be back in New England next year

I doubt it.

He needs to show he can go to a different organization and win. If he doesnt do this, he won't get a job as a HC

[s0phr0syne]

Chiefs, and I'm not joking.

Haley is a joke and imbecile. He nearly cost his team the game with the hubris of going for it in the red zone. The infrastructure is in place for someone to come in a be the leader of that team, and I could see McD going there as either an OC or the HC.


I think most likely are Browns or NE partII

[DarkHorse30]

He will make a great OC, too bad we didn't hire him as an OC in 2008.

Now he is gone and I don't care where he lands.

Great? Based on what he did in Denver?

I refuse to credit him with much in NE because it was good before he got there and it was good after. His playcalling in Denver was not very good. So, how does that make him into a "great" oc? Maybe he's a good QB coach ONLY. I'll give him that, but the evidence to support even that arguement is somewhat weak.

I'm laughing at the guys that are so glad he's gone, but now give him more credit than he's due......bipolar much? I admit I supported him vehemently for about a year....but than we got housed by the raiders at home and I quit defending him. I don't think he will be a great hire, because he hasn't done anything GOOD, on his own. He had EVERY chance in Denver and kept sucking. Good Riddance.

[The MVPlaya]

Chiefs, and I'm not joking.

Haley is a joke and imbecile. He nearly cost his team the game with the hubris of going for it in the red zone. The infrastructure is in place for someone to come in a be the leader of that team, and I could see McD going there as either an OC or the HC

I can't see Chiefs canning Haley though. Winning the division is probably over achieving for them this season. If Weis leaves... I'm not sure.

It's a logical situation... it would be hilarious if it were HC...

Dont' think they shake up the franchise after what looks to be a successful season.

[The MVPlaya]

Great? Based on what he did in Denver?

I refuse to credit him with much in NE because it was good before he got there and it was good after. His playcalling in Denver was not very good. So, how does that make him into a "great" oc? Maybe he's a good QB coach ONLY. I'll give him that, but the evidence to support even that arguement is somewhat weak.

I'm laughing at the guys that are so glad he's gone, but now give him more credit than he's due......bipolar much? I admit I supported him vehemently for about a year....but than we got housed by the raiders at home and I quit defending him. I don't think he will be a great hire, because he hasn't done anything GOOD, on his own. He had EVERY chance in Denver and kept sucking. Good Riddance.

Refuse to credit him much in NE? Going 16-0, the SB, and a record setting offense, doesn't deserve credit? Is that ****in logical?

I don't credit Shanahan for getting the AFCCG. It was CLEARLY all Kubiak and Coyer. You see what happened when they left? TRASH TRASH TRASH.

The evidence to support it is strong.

Do you realize that he turned KYLE ORTON into a legit QB with a 90+ QB rating? Do you realize Orton was on pace to break passing records for a franchise with JOHN ELWAY?

Do you realize his offense has been on the UPPER half of the league and has improved from last year to this year? Do you realize that he took BRANDON LLOYD and turned him into a nfl LEAGUE LEADING WR?

You want to say thats not great, fine, but to say that's not very good shows the amount of intelligence that is in between your ****in ears.

Dumb ****in Broncos fans.

[bronco militia]

I doubt it.

He needs to show he can go to a different organization and win. If he doesnt do this, he won't get a job as a HC

what? he doesn't need to prove anything to Belicock

[DarkHorse30]

Refuse to credit him much in NE? Going 16-0, the SB, and a record setting offense, doesn't deserve credit? Is that ****in logical?

I don't credit Shanahan for getting the AFCCG. It was CLEARLY all Kubiak and Coyer. You see what happened when they left? TRASH TRASH TRASH.

The evidence to support it is strong.

Do you realize that he turned KYLE ORTON into a legit QB with a 90+ QB rating? Do you realize Orton was on pace to break passing records for a franchise with JOHN ELWAY?

Do you realize his offense has been on the UPPER half of the league and has improved from last year to this year? Do you realize that he took BRANDON LLOYD and turned him into a nfl LEAGUE LEADING WR?

You want to say thats not great, fine, but to say that's not very good shows the amount of intelligence that is in between your ****in ears.

Dumb ****in Broncos fans.

Orton is breaking those passing records because he had no running game for bout half the season. Denver's offense was not winning any games.......especially the last one......even with a running game, which didn't exist before this last sunday.....and then McDaniels refuses to USE his suddenly appearing running game to win the game. Maybe I should have revised "not very good" to "completely idiotic".

would you like to have a debate about it, or do you just want to just call everybody a ****in' idiot that disagrees with you?

[BroncosMT]

He'll be the Raiders OC next year. ;D

That was exactly my first thought.....Al thinking he is sticking it to us!

[fontaine]

Jack McDaniels will slink back to NE where Bellichick will promptly give him a fat paycheck for all those Denver picks he traded for a bunch of magic beans.

[55CrushEm]

Who cares where he goes?

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Probably the people who are curious. Did you care where Shanahan went?

[broncosteven]

Great? Based on what he did in Denver?

I refuse to credit him with much in NE because it was good before he got there and it was good after. His playcalling in Denver was not very good. So, how does that make him into a "great" oc? Maybe he's a good QB coach ONLY. I'll give him that, but the evidence to support even that arguement is somewhat weak.

I'm laughing at the guys that are so glad he's gone, but now give him more credit than he's due......bipolar much? I admit I supported him vehemently for about a year....but than we got housed by the raiders at home and I quit defending him. I don't think he will be a great hire, because he hasn't done anything GOOD, on his own. He had EVERY chance in Denver and kept sucking. Good Riddance.

You have me confused with someone else, I caught all of his pressers, he is football smart, my contention has been from day 1 that he was too young and inexperienced to be given all the power he was.

I always thought he did well with bringing in and coaching WR talent, he did wonders with Orton, he would make a great OC if he learned how to run the ball more which he will eventually.

It will take him another couple of years but if he can work on his people skills and get more experience he will likely be an HC canidate again and do better at his next stop.

[The MVPlaya]

Orton is breaking those passing records because he had no running game for bout half the season. Denver's offense was not winning any games.......especially the last one......even with a running game, which didn't exist before this last sunday.....and then McDaniels refuses to USE his suddenly appearing running game to win the game. Maybe I should have revised "not very good" to "completely idiotic".

would you like to have a debate about it, or do you just want to just call everybody a ****in' idiot that disagrees with you?

It's not about disagreeing, it's about bringing up valid points and being able to logically and somewhat, intelligently coming to conclusion with solid support.

You talk about winning games but you fail to consider that winning games has to do with defense and special teams. Let me keep you on track, we're talking about McDaniels the OC only, to HC.

You say Orton is on pace because of no running game... well 1st off, NO ****. 2nd, that's bull**** because McDaniels (the OC) still finds ways to move the ball. Look @ other teams, you act as if it's a simple task in the NFL to go to an all our air attack and put up numbers like Orton.

You say it's a product of no running.

Cardinals are 2nd to last in rushing and... damn at the bottom of pile in passing.

Seahawks are right behind Broncos in rushing, and still on the bottom half in passing.

No very good is simply DUMB. It's not about disagreeing ,it's about having an illogical and stupid ****in point. If you don't think he'll be valued this off season as an OC I am not sure what fantasy land you're currently residing in.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

he wasn't the offensive coordinator, I think he was a special assistant or something, pretty low level

amusing you would do that

During their 07 run, he was most certainly their OC (or at least calling the plays)

[serious hops]

He'll make a great OC for some arena league team that wants to pass fifty times a games.

[55CrushEm]

Orton is breaking those passing records because he had no running game for bout half the season.

Not a good argument. Usually, a QB's stats get better when they DO have a good running game....cause the running game opens up the pass, yes? When there is no running game, as you indicate, then the opposing defense usually focuses on the pass, yes?

The fact that teams knew we were going to pass the first half of the season should have HURT Orton, yes?

More evidence.....Elway's BEST statistical year (93.0 passer rating) was in the VERY LAST YEAR OF HIS CAREER......in 1998....when he had some running back (I forget his name) that ran for 2000+ yards.

[The MVPlaya]

Not a good argument. Usually, a QB's stats get better when they DO have a good running game....cause the running game opens up the pass, yes? When there is no running game, as you indicate, then the opposing defense usually focuses on the pass, yes?

The fact that teams knew we were going to pass the first half of the season should have HURT Orton, yes?

More evidence.....Elway's BEST statistical year (93.0 passer rating) was in the VERY LAST YEAR OF HIS CAREER......in 1998....when he had some running back (I forget his name) that ran for 2000+ yards.

DarkHorse doesn't bring up any good arguments.

[Crushaholic]

Chiefs, and I'm not joking.

Haley is a joke and imbecile. He nearly cost his team the game with the hubris of going for it in the red zone. The infrastructure is in place for someone to come in a be the leader of that team, and I could see McD going there as either an OC or the HC.




The Chiefs believe that Haley is finally pointing them in the right direction. He's not going anywhere. Weiss isn't going anywhere, either. Trust me. I watch Chiefs games every week. They are miles above the joke they were in the past...

[Pony Boy]

The obvious choice would be the RB coach with Cleveland and he will run Hillis down our throats...

[broncosteven]

The Chiefs believe that Haley is finally pointing them in the right direction. He's not going anywhere. Weiss isn't going anywhere, either. Trust me. I watch Chiefs games every week. They are miles above the joke they were in the past...

Sadly they have put together a very solid team that will be hard to beat once they get the passing game going.

[Gutless Drunk]

His Broncos offenses were 13th in yards and 19th in points during his tenure
Decidedly average.

[DarkHorse30]

Not a good argument. Usually, a QB's stats get better when they DO have a good running game....cause the running game opens up the pass, yes? When there is no running game, as you indicate, then the opposing defense usually focuses on the pass, yes?

The fact that teams knew we were going to pass the first half of the season should have HURT Orton, yes?

More evidence.....Elway's BEST statistical year (93.0 passer rating) was in the VERY LAST YEAR OF HIS CAREER......in 1998....when he had some running back (I forget his name) that ran for 2000+ yards.

NE/McDaniels tends to use the pass to set up the run; and Denver virtually had ONLY a passing game for at least 4-5 games. Look at the RBs, all smaller pass-catching RBs.....Kevin Faulk was the proto-type. So the old "run to set up the pass" doesn't necessarily apply.

Also, if you NEVER run, than you HAVE to have more passing yards than rushing yards.....look at those first 8 games.

I do give credit/and have given credit to McDaniels for coaching up QBs and WRs, but a good OC has to call a good game. He didn't, therefore I wouldn't call him that good. Watch a few games from this season and then come back and tell me how McDaniels was a good OC. Maybe a good Quarterbacks coach, but not a good OC.

[broncosteven]

NE/McDaniels tends to use the pass to set up the run; and Denver virtually had ONLY a passing game for at least 4-5 games. Look at the RBs, all smaller pass-catching RBs.....Kevin Faulk was the proto-type. So the old "run to set up the pass" doesn't necessarily apply.
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Until he stopped running to Chuck it Deep to Lloyd!

[Bronco Yoda]

Josh goes to the Browns. It's karmic fate.

[strafen]

I think he's taking over his dad's high school team back in Ohio...

[Boomhauer]

Leads Eastern Michigan or Bowling Green to a 4-win season.

[JCMElway]

Man, Josh as the OC in Baltimore would be a great fit.

[Swedish Extrovert]

Browns OC, or back in NE as QBs coach.

[The MVPlaya]

Josh going back to anything other than OC would slow down his climb back up.

[KipCorrington25]

Best coordinator on the market? There must not be any other coordinators on the market then.

[Bigdawg26]

I say some pee wee football in bumbf#$k, Kansas!! That way at least he will be eye level with his players and won't have such a napoleon complex!!

[extralife]

Chefs QB coach or Browns OC

[UberBroncoMan]

I'm calling...the Raiders as the OC.

[Popps]

I feel like McD might end up in the college ranks before coming back as a coordinator. He needs to put time and distance between the camera allegations and his next real gig.

I work with some Lions fans who are clamoring for him to come there as the OC. Something like that isn't out of the question, but I just have a feeling he'll end up a college coach first.

[uplink]

I'm calling...the Raiders as the OC.

maybe. He is Al's kind of hire for a head coach. Young and offensive minded. Could hire him as OC and then see if he gets along with the awkward stuff that goes on in the raiders organization. If he can deal with it, Al can hire him as coach when he cans Cable in a year.

[Garcia Bronco]

Josh McDaniels couldn't sell a bucket of water to a guy that was on fire.

Refuse to credit him much in NE? Going 16-0, the SB, and a record setting offense, doesn't deserve credit? Is that ****in logical?

I don't credit Shanahan for getting the AFCCG. It was CLEARLY all Kubiak and Coyer. You see what happened when they left? TRASH TRASH TRASH.

The evidence to support it is strong.

Do you realize that he turned KYLE ORTON into a legit QB with a 90+ QB rating? Do you realize Orton was on pace to break passing records for a franchise with JOHN ELWAY?

Do you realize his offense has been on the UPPER half of the league and has improved from last year to this year? Do you realize that he took BRANDON LLOYD and turned him into a nfl LEAGUE LEADING WR?

You want to say thats not great, fine, but to say that's not very good shows the amount of intelligence that is in between your ****in ears.

Dumb ****in Broncos fans.

[The MVPlaya]

Josh McDaniels couldn't sell a bucket of water to a guy that was on fire.

lol he sold himself to Bowlen pretty well.

[randomtask]

To be completely honest, I really don't care. Once a player/coach has left this team, unless they meant a huge amount to this franchise (ala Atwater/Sharpe/Shanahan), there's no reason to really focus any energy on them, and even then, you should really only concern yourself with them for a season or less. After that, worrying about what could have been and what was lost serves no constructive purpose. The only purpose it holds is to simply hold onto unneeded anger, which doesn't help anyone.

Frankly, if a person is going to do nothing but b**** about someone who's left the team, they should take some time to reflect on whether it's really worth it. Because the truth is that in pretty much every case, it isn't worth it.

This applies to both sides of the proverbial fan aisle.

But to keep on topic, I say the Panthers. There will be a wholesale coaching overhaul after this season, and their QBOTF who desperately needs good QB coaching.

[Garcia Bronco]

lol he sold himself to Bowlen pretty well.

Yeah and he couldn't deliver anything of value except jersey sales for one player. He's a cheater and i think he's done in this league. He's not even good at that.