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broncocalijohn
12-06-2010, 08:11 PM
How do you Pro McDaniels posters feel now that McDaniels is fired? Do you feel pissed, relief you wont have to back him publicly anymore, frustrated with him, frustrated with Bowlen, embarrassed, etc. The Maners will comfort you like we did for TJ and his Gutless Drunk thread or Orange4Life's Suicide Watch when we drafted Cutler :strong: We have been known to comfort the hurt and the insane so let us know how you are feeling of this McDaniels firing and let the healing begin. I hope TheCool will be first to line up but there are some other beauts that should be inline now if they havent committed suicide yet.

crush17
12-06-2010, 08:13 PM
Awesome thread. You win the internet.

Broncoman13
12-06-2010, 08:14 PM
I feel depressed. Nobody can come in here take the pieces that are here and make them better. We got rid of a lot of talent. This is going to be a long rebuilding process I'm afraid. Figure we win one more game and finish at 4-12... Where will we draft and how is available?

Garcia Bronco
12-06-2010, 08:16 PM
Truly it could said

"turn out the lights, the party's over."

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 08:16 PM
Nice thread
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2,file=5370,filename=dumbass.png

TailgateNut
12-06-2010, 08:17 PM
It depends what Al Bowlen/ Pat Davis has up his fur lined sleeve.

vancejohnson82
12-06-2010, 08:18 PM
I know this is proposed as a very tongue in cheek thread, but for one day I think its ok to talk about the old coaching regime and whine a little bit.

this sets us back another 2 years at least, and we don't know what the next guy is going to think of Tebow, or Orton, or anyone for that matter. Champ will be gone next year (if there's football) and we are once again going to be switching schemes which is annoying. I thought he should have gotten anohter year but we don't know what brought this on behind the scenes. I feel like more will come out and this wasnt just a performance based firing, something else is going on here.
I felt like McDaniels vision was great. I liked what he wanted the team to be and I liked a lot of the things he did. It's a shame that on Sundays that vision never came to fruition.
Oh well...time to move on

Rigs11
12-06-2010, 08:18 PM
Slingblade strikes again..

DBroncos4life
12-06-2010, 08:20 PM
I'm sure they feel like David Koresh followers...

Archer81
12-06-2010, 08:20 PM
This should end well.


:Broncos:

broncocalijohn
12-06-2010, 08:20 PM
Nice thread
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2,file=5370,filename=dumbass.png

Me for trying to get the family of maners to help with you guys or you ,the dumbass , for supporting him to the bitter end? Unlike Shanny, I was prepared and pretty much on with it. I went from one of the Mane's strong supporters of McD to one of the outspoken of his playcalling and everything else he has done wrong. I guess the answer to the thread is you fell anger and maybe picked on. We are here to help you get through this. Internet hugs can be PMed if you need one.

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 08:26 PM
It depends on the direction. If it is Calhoun I wish we would have just kept Josh. I liked the kid. This whole, "pile on" people who didn't compare him to cancer, to Stalin, to evil, is just lame.

McDman
12-06-2010, 08:28 PM
I was a supporter of his pretty much the whole time, although towards the end with the whole spy gate thing my attitude began to change.

I've always been someone who believed no matter what a coach needed at least three years to do what he has to do, unfortunaely in these circumstances that didn't happen. If he didn't have all the off the field crap I think he'd have gotten that extra year. I really do believe that he will be a successful coach down the road, maybe this will check his ego a little bit and remind him he's not a genius.

I think his biggest downfall was his GM ability, it was just abysmal. He just had too much on his plate to deal with, especially for such a young guy. This is partly on Bowlen for even giving him the opportunity to have all that powe and I pray he learns from this as well.

Brandon Lloyd put it perfectly on the radio when he said McD could prepare you for a game better than any coach he's had and the main problem was the talent on the field could not operate under his scheme, he then went on to say that because all the personnel decisions were Josh's it was his own fault.

Whatever happens in the future I will continue to be a Broncos fan no matter what, GO BRONCOS!

Archer81
12-06-2010, 08:29 PM
But they were, all of them, deceived, for another Ring was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret a master Ring, to control all others. And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One Ring to rule them all...


:Broncos:

orinjkrush
12-06-2010, 08:45 PM
No one could believe anyone could follow MacArthur in Korea after Inchon.
And then Matt Ridgway appeared. "Heroes come when they're needed; great men step forward when courage seems in short supply." Upon taking control of the battered Eighth Army, one of Ridgway's first acts was to restore soldiers' confidence in themselves. To accomplish this, he reorganized the command structure. During one of his first briefings in Korea at I Corps, Ridgway sat through an extensive discussion of various defensive plans and contingencies. At the end, he asked the staff about the status of their attack plans; the corps G–3 (operations officer) responded that he had no such plans. Within days, I Corps had a new G-3. When General Douglas MacArthur was relieved of command by President Harry Truman in April, Ridgway was promoted to full general, assuming command of all United Nations forces in Korea. As commanding general in Korea, Ridgway gained the nickname "Old Iron Tits" for his habit of wearing hand grenades attached to his load-bearing equipment at chest level.
I think he would have given Gene Kranz a run for his money.

doonwise
12-06-2010, 08:46 PM
I'm bummed, primarily because we spent the last ~2 years building a roster to fit his system. Now we have a bunch of players that may or may not fit the next system. And, who the hell is going to develop Tebow? I'm positive that our QB play will drop off severely.

Whoa is me. Just wish we could have waited one more year. If the team hadn't come together, then so be it. I just felt that we are a young team and with 1 year of experience, it should come together next year. All well, who's up next?

Wishlist:
1. Innovative head coach (offense or defense, I don't care as long as they run the damn 3-4)
2. The new head coach keeps the offensive/defensive coordinator for 4+ years so we can get some damn franchise stability.

mkporter
12-06-2010, 08:58 PM
I'm kinda down. I think he should have gotten another year. The spygate thing bugged me though. I think Bowlen and Ellis should take a lot of blame for not having better experience above McD. He was a first time head coach, I never read anything indicating that he demanded the kind of power that he was given, and he was just stretched too thin.

I've grown to like several of the players that McD brought in, and I appreciate that a lot of the new guys are genuinely likable and easy to root for (Moreno, Decker, Ayers, Bannan, Tebow, Thomas, etc). I hope to see a lot of them around with the new coach.

At the end of the day, I wish McD luck in his next venture, except when he coaches against us. I hope Bowlen does a better job setting up the next coach for success, and to whoever the new coach turns out to be: Good luck, we'll be rooting for you.

tsiguy96
12-06-2010, 08:59 PM
Tell me, O muse, of that ingenious hero who travelled far and wide after he had sacked the famous town of Troy. Many cities did he visit, and many were the nations with whose manners and customs he was acquainted; moreover he suffered much by sea while trying to save his own life and bring his men safely home; but do what he might he could not save his men, for they perished through their own sheer folly in eating the cattle of the Sun-god Hyperion; so the god prevented them from ever reaching home. Tell me, too, about all these things, O daughter of Jove, from whatsoever source you may know them.

So now all who escaped death in battle or by shipwreck had got safely home except Ulysses, and he, though he was longing to return to his wife and country, was detained by the goddess Calypso, who had got him into a large cave and wanted to marry him. But as years went by, there came a time when the gods settled that he should go back to Ithaca; even then, however, when he was among his own people, his troubles were not yet over; nevertheless all the gods had now begun to pity him except Neptune, who still persecuted him without ceasing and would not let him get home.

Now Neptune had gone off to the Ethiopians, who are at the world's end, and lie in two halves, the one looking West and the other East. He had gone there to accept a hecatomb of sheep and oxen, and was enjoying himself at his festival; but the other gods met in the house of Olympian Jove, and the sire of gods and men spoke first. At that moment he was thinking of Aegisthus, who had been killed by Agamemnon's son Orestes; so he said to the other gods:

"See now, how men lay blame upon us gods for what is after all nothing but their own folly. Look at Aegisthus; he must needs make love to Agamemnon's wife unrighteously and then kill Agamemnon, though he knew it would be the death of him; for I sent Mercury to warn him not to do either of these things, inasmuch as Orestes would be sure to take his revenge when he grew up and wanted to return home. Mercury told him this in all good will but he would not listen, and now he has paid for everything in full."

Then Minerva said, "Father, son of Saturn, King of kings, it served Aegisthus right, and so it would any one else who does as he did; but Aegisthus is neither here nor there; it is for Ulysses that my heart bleeds, when I think of his sufferings in that lonely sea-girt island, far away, poor man, from all his friends. It is an island covered with forest, in the very middle of the sea, and a goddess lives there, daughter of the magician Atlas, who looks after the bottom of the ocean, and carries the great columns that keep heaven and earth asunder. This daughter of Atlas has got hold of poor unhappy Ulysses, and keeps trying by every kind of blandishment to make him forget his home, so that he is tired of life, and thinks of nothing but how he may once more see the smoke of his own chimneys. You, sir, take no heed of this, and yet when Ulysses was before Troy did he not propitiate you with many a burnt sacrifice? Why then should you keep on being so angry with him?"

And Jove said, "My child, what are you talking about? How can I forget Ulysses than whom there is no more capable man on earth, nor more liberal in his offerings to the immortal gods that live in heaven? Bear in mind, however, that Neptune is still furious with Ulysses for having blinded an eye of Polyphemus king of the Cyclopes. Polyphemus is son to Neptune by the nymph Thoosa, daughter to the sea-king Phorcys; therefore though he will not kill Ulysses outright, he torments him by preventing him from getting home. Still, let us lay our heads together and see how we can help him to return; Neptune will then be pacified, for if we are all of a mind he can hardly stand out against us."

And Minerva said, "Father, son of Saturn, King of kings, if, then, the gods now mean that Ulysses should get home, we should first send Mercury to the Ogygian island to tell Calypso that we have made up our minds and that he is to return. In the meantime I will go to Ithaca, to put heart into Ulysses' son Telemachus; I will embolden him to call the Achaeans in assembly, and speak out to the suitors of his mother Penelope, who persist in eating up any number of his sheep and oxen; I will also conduct him to Sparta and to Pylos, to see if he can hear anything about the return of his dear father- for this will make people speak well of him."

So saying she bound on her glittering golden sandals, imperishable, with which she can fly like the wind over land or sea; she grasped the redoubtable bronze-shod spear, so stout and sturdy and strong, wherewith she quells the ranks of heroes who have displeased her, and down she darted from the topmost summits of Olympus, whereon forthwith she was in Ithaca, at the gateway of Ulysses' house, disguised as a visitor, Mentes, chief of the Taphians, and she held a bronze spear in her hand. There she found the lordly suitors seated on hides of the oxen which they had killed and eaten, and playing draughts in front of the house. Men-servants and pages were bustling about to wait upon them, some mixing wine with water in the mixing-bowls, some cleaning down the tables with wet sponges and laying them out again, and some cutting up great quantities of meat.

Telemachus saw her long before any one else did. He was sitting moodily among the suitors thinking about his brave father, and how he would send them flying out of the house, if he were to come to his own again and be honoured as in days gone by. Thus brooding as he sat among them, he caught sight of Minerva and went straight to the gate, for he was vexed that a stranger should be kept waiting for admittance. He took her right hand in his own, and bade her give him her spear. "Welcome," said he, "to our house, and when you have partaken of food you shall tell us what you have come for."

He led the way as he spoke, and Minerva followed him. When they were within he took her spear and set it in the spear- stand against a strong bearing-post along with the many other spears of his unhappy father, and he conducted her to a richly decorated seat under which he threw a cloth of damask. There was a footstool also for her feet, and he set another seat near her for himself, away from the suitors, that she might not be annoyed while eating by their noise and insolence, and that he might ask her more freely about his father.

A maid servant then brought them water in a beautiful golden ewer and poured it into a silver basin for them to wash their hands, and she drew a clean table beside them. An upper servant brought them bread, and offered them many good things of what there was in the house, the carver fetched them plates of all manner of meats and set cups of gold by their side, and a man-servant brought them wine and poured it out for them.

Then the suitors came in and took their places on the benches and seats. Forthwith men servants poured water over their hands, maids went round with the bread-baskets, pages filled the mixing-bowls with wine and water, and they laid their hands upon the good things that were before them. As soon as they had had enough to eat and drink they wanted music and dancing, which are the crowning embellishments of a banquet, so a servant brought a lyre to Phemius, whom they compelled perforce to sing to them. As soon as he touched his lyre and began to sing Telemachus spoke low to Minerva, with his head close to hers that no man might hear.

"I hope, sir," said he, "that you will not be offended with what I am going to say. Singing comes cheap to those who do not pay for it, and all this is done at the cost of one whose bones lie rotting in some wilderness or grinding to powder in the surf. If these men were to see my father come back to Ithaca they would pray for longer legs rather than a longer purse, for money would not serve them; but he, alas, has fallen on an ill fate, and even when people do sometimes say that he is coming, we no longer heed them; we shall never see him again. And now, sir, tell me and tell me true, who you are and where you come from. Tell me of your town and parents, what manner of ship you came in, how your crew brought you to Ithaca, and of what nation they declared themselves to be- for you cannot have come by land. Tell me also truly, for I want to know, are you a stranger to this house, or have you been here in my father's time? In the old days we had many visitors for my father went about much himself."

And Minerva answered, "I will tell you truly and particularly all about it. I am Mentes, son of Anchialus, and I am King of the Taphians. I have come here with my ship and crew, on a voyage to men of a foreign tongue being bound for Temesa with a cargo of iron, and I shall bring back copper. As for my ship, it lies over yonder off the open country away from the town, in the harbour Rheithron under the wooded mountain Neritum. Our fathers were friends before us, as old Laertes will tell you, if you will go and ask him. They say, however, that he never comes to town now, and lives by himself in the country, faring hardly, with an old woman to look after him and get his dinner for him, when he comes in tired from pottering about his vineyard. They told me your father was at home again, and that was why I came, but it seems the gods are still keeping him back, for he is not dead yet not on the mainland. It is more likely he is on some sea-girt island in mid ocean, or a prisoner among savages who are detaining him against his will I am no prophet, and know very little about omens, but I speak as it is borne in upon me from heaven, and assure you that he will not be away much longer; for he is a man of such resource that even though he were in chains of iron he would find some means of getting home again. But tell me, and tell me true, can Ulysses really have such a fine looking fellow for a son? You are indeed wonderfully like him about the head and eyes, for we were close friends before he set sail for Troy where the flower of all the Argives went also. Since that time we have never either of us seen the other."

"My mother," answered Telemachus, tells me I am son to Ulysses, but it is a wise child that knows his own father. Would that I were son to one who had grown old upon his own estates, for, since you ask me, there is no more ill-starred man under heaven than he who they tell me is my father."

And Minerva said, "There is no fear of your race dying out yet, while Penelope has such a fine son as you are. But tell me, and tell me true, what is the meaning of all this feasting, and who are these people? What is it all about? Have you some banquet, or is there a wedding in the family- for no one seems to be bringing any provisions of his own? And the guests- how atrociously they are behaving; what riot they make over the whole house; it is enough to disgust any respectable person who comes near them."

DBroncos4life
12-06-2010, 09:01 PM
Tell me, O muse, of that ingenious hero who travelled far and wide after he had sacked the famous town of Troy. Many cities did he visit, and many were the nations with whose manners and customs he was acquainted; moreover he suffered much by sea while trying to save his own life and bring his men safely home; but do what he might he could not save his men, for they perished through their own sheer folly in eating the cattle of the Sun-god Hyperion; so the god prevented them from ever reaching home. Tell me, too, about all these things, O daughter of Jove, from whatsoever source you may know them.

So now all who escaped death in battle or by shipwreck had got safely home except Ulysses, and he, though he was longing to return to his wife and country, was detained by the goddess Calypso, who had got him into a large cave and wanted to marry him. But as years went by, there came a time when the gods settled that he should go back to Ithaca; even then, however, when he was among his own people, his troubles were not yet over; nevertheless all the gods had now begun to pity him except Neptune, who still persecuted him without ceasing and would not let him get home.

Now Neptune had gone off to the Ethiopians, who are at the world's end, and lie in two halves, the one looking West and the other East. He had gone there to accept a hecatomb of sheep and oxen, and was enjoying himself at his festival; but the other gods met in the house of Olympian Jove, and the sire of gods and men spoke first. At that moment he was thinking of Aegisthus, who had been killed by Agamemnon's son Orestes; so he said to the other gods:

"See now, how men lay blame upon us gods for what is after all nothing but their own folly. Look at Aegisthus; he must needs make love to Agamemnon's wife unrighteously and then kill Agamemnon, though he knew it would be the death of him; for I sent Mercury to warn him not to do either of these things, inasmuch as Orestes would be sure to take his revenge when he grew up and wanted to return home. Mercury told him this in all good will but he would not listen, and now he has paid for everything in full."

Then Minerva said, "Father, son of Saturn, King of kings, it served Aegisthus right, and so it would any one else who does as he did; but Aegisthus is neither here nor there; it is for Ulysses that my heart bleeds, when I think of his sufferings in that lonely sea-girt island, far away, poor man, from all his friends. It is an island covered with forest, in the very middle of the sea, and a goddess lives there, daughter of the magician Atlas, who looks after the bottom of the ocean, and carries the great columns that keep heaven and earth asunder. This daughter of Atlas has got hold of poor unhappy Ulysses, and keeps trying by every kind of blandishment to make him forget his home, so that he is tired of life, and thinks of nothing but how he may once more see the smoke of his own chimneys. You, sir, take no heed of this, and yet when Ulysses was before Troy did he not propitiate you with many a burnt sacrifice? Why then should you keep on being so angry with him?"

And Jove said, "My child, what are you talking about? How can I forget Ulysses than whom there is no more capable man on earth, nor more liberal in his offerings to the immortal gods that live in heaven? Bear in mind, however, that Neptune is still furious with Ulysses for having blinded an eye of Polyphemus king of the Cyclopes. Polyphemus is son to Neptune by the nymph Thoosa, daughter to the sea-king Phorcys; therefore though he will not kill Ulysses outright, he torments him by preventing him from getting home. Still, let us lay our heads together and see how we can help him to return; Neptune will then be pacified, for if we are all of a mind he can hardly stand out against us."

And Minerva said, "Father, son of Saturn, King of kings, if, then, the gods now mean that Ulysses should get home, we should first send Mercury to the Ogygian island to tell Calypso that we have made up our minds and that he is to return. In the meantime I will go to Ithaca, to put heart into Ulysses' son Telemachus; I will embolden him to call the Achaeans in assembly, and speak out to the suitors of his mother Penelope, who persist in eating up any number of his sheep and oxen; I will also conduct him to Sparta and to Pylos, to see if he can hear anything about the return of his dear father- for this will make people speak well of him."

So saying she bound on her glittering golden sandals, imperishable, with which she can fly like the wind over land or sea; she grasped the redoubtable bronze-shod spear, so stout and sturdy and strong, wherewith she quells the ranks of heroes who have displeased her, and down she darted from the topmost summits of Olympus, whereon forthwith she was in Ithaca, at the gateway of Ulysses' house, disguised as a visitor, Mentes, chief of the Taphians, and she held a bronze spear in her hand. There she found the lordly suitors seated on hides of the oxen which they had killed and eaten, and playing draughts in front of the house. Men-servants and pages were bustling about to wait upon them, some mixing wine with water in the mixing-bowls, some cleaning down the tables with wet sponges and laying them out again, and some cutting up great quantities of meat.

Telemachus saw her long before any one else did. He was sitting moodily among the suitors thinking about his brave father, and how he would send them flying out of the house, if he were to come to his own again and be honoured as in days gone by. Thus brooding as he sat among them, he caught sight of Minerva and went straight to the gate, for he was vexed that a stranger should be kept waiting for admittance. He took her right hand in his own, and bade her give him her spear. "Welcome," said he, "to our house, and when you have partaken of food you shall tell us what you have come for."

He led the way as he spoke, and Minerva followed him. When they were within he took her spear and set it in the spear- stand against a strong bearing-post along with the many other spears of his unhappy father, and he conducted her to a richly decorated seat under which he threw a cloth of damask. There was a footstool also for her feet, and he set another seat near her for himself, away from the suitors, that she might not be annoyed while eating by their noise and insolence, and that he might ask her more freely about his father.

A maid servant then brought them water in a beautiful golden ewer and poured it into a silver basin for them to wash their hands, and she drew a clean table beside them. An upper servant brought them bread, and offered them many good things of what there was in the house, the carver fetched them plates of all manner of meats and set cups of gold by their side, and a man-servant brought them wine and poured it out for them.

Then the suitors came in and took their places on the benches and seats. Forthwith men servants poured water over their hands, maids went round with the bread-baskets, pages filled the mixing-bowls with wine and water, and they laid their hands upon the good things that were before them. As soon as they had had enough to eat and drink they wanted music and dancing, which are the crowning embellishments of a banquet, so a servant brought a lyre to Phemius, whom they compelled perforce to sing to them. As soon as he touched his lyre and began to sing Telemachus spoke low to Minerva, with his head close to hers that no man might hear.

"I hope, sir," said he, "that you will not be offended with what I am going to say. Singing comes cheap to those who do not pay for it, and all this is done at the cost of one whose bones lie rotting in some wilderness or grinding to powder in the surf. If these men were to see my father come back to Ithaca they would pray for longer legs rather than a longer purse, for money would not serve them; but he, alas, has fallen on an ill fate, and even when people do sometimes say that he is coming, we no longer heed them; we shall never see him again. And now, sir, tell me and tell me true, who you are and where you come from. Tell me of your town and parents, what manner of ship you came in, how your crew brought you to Ithaca, and of what nation they declared themselves to be- for you cannot have come by land. Tell me also truly, for I want to know, are you a stranger to this house, or have you been here in my father's time? In the old days we had many visitors for my father went about much himself."

And Minerva answered, "I will tell you truly and particularly all about it. I am Mentes, son of Anchialus, and I am King of the Taphians. I have come here with my ship and crew, on a voyage to men of a foreign tongue being bound for Temesa with a cargo of iron, and I shall bring back copper. As for my ship, it lies over yonder off the open country away from the town, in the harbour Rheithron under the wooded mountain Neritum. Our fathers were friends before us, as old Laertes will tell you, if you will go and ask him. They say, however, that he never comes to town now, and lives by himself in the country, faring hardly, with an old woman to look after him and get his dinner for him, when he comes in tired from pottering about his vineyard. They told me your father was at home again, and that was why I came, but it seems the gods are still keeping him back, for he is not dead yet not on the mainland. It is more likely he is on some sea-girt island in mid ocean, or a prisoner among savages who are detaining him against his will I am no prophet, and know very little about omens, but I speak as it is borne in upon me from heaven, and assure you that he will not be away much longer; for he is a man of such resource that even though he were in chains of iron he would find some means of getting home again. But tell me, and tell me true, can Ulysses really have such a fine looking fellow for a son? You are indeed wonderfully like him about the head and eyes, for we were close friends before he set sail for Troy where the flower of all the Argives went also. Since that time we have never either of us seen the other."

"My mother," answered Telemachus, tells me I am son to Ulysses, but it is a wise child that knows his own father. Would that I were son to one who had grown old upon his own estates, for, since you ask me, there is no more ill-starred man under heaven than he who they tell me is my father."

And Minerva said, "There is no fear of your race dying out yet, while Penelope has such a fine son as you are. But tell me, and tell me true, what is the meaning of all this feasting, and who are these people? What is it all about? Have you some banquet, or is there a wedding in the family- for no one seems to be bringing any provisions of his own? And the guests- how atrociously they are behaving; what riot they make over the whole house; it is enough to disgust any respectable person who comes near them."

I know you didn't write this because there are capital letters.

worm
12-06-2010, 09:03 PM
I know you didn't write this because there are capital letters.

and not a single 'teh'.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2010, 09:04 PM
I know this is proposed as a very tongue in cheek thread, but for one day I think its ok to talk about the old coaching regime and whine a little bit.

this sets us back another 2 years at least, and we don't know what the next guy is going to think of Tebow, or Orton, or anyone for that matter. Champ will be gone next year (if there's football) and we are once again going to be switching schemes which is annoying. I thought he should have gotten anohter year but we don't know what brought this on behind the scenes. I feel like more will come out and this wasnt just a performance based firing, something else is going on here.
I felt like McDaniels vision was great. I liked what he wanted the team to be and I liked a lot of the things he did. It's a shame that on Sundays that vision never came to fruition.
Oh well...time to move on

Yep. Really well posted, and I fully co-sign.

I'm bummed because we're not winning games. I believed that McDaniels would win more games. I'm disappointed that he won't do it in Denver. I'm pretty confident that he'll do it somewhere.

tsiguy96
12-06-2010, 09:07 PM
and not a single 'teh'.

my worst typing error, i do that all the time. also spell "guarantee" like "gaurantee" for some reason.

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 09:09 PM
I know this is proposed as a very tongue in cheek thread, but for one day I think its ok to talk about the old coaching regime and whine a little bit.

this sets us back another 2 years at least, and we don't know what the next guy is going to think of Tebow, or Orton, or anyone for that matter. Champ will be gone next year (if there's football) and we are once again going to be switching schemes which is annoying. I thought he should have gotten anohter year but we don't know what brought this on behind the scenes. I feel like more will come out and this wasnt just a performance based firing, something else is going on here.
I felt like McDaniels vision was great. I liked what he wanted the team to be and I liked a lot of the things he did. It's a shame that on Sundays that vision never came to fruition.
Oh well...time to move on

1 year ago we beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead to go 8 & 4. It's been a tough year. Without the spygate thing I think McDaniels would still be here.

TheReverend
12-06-2010, 09:12 PM
and not a single 'teh'.

and it was worth reading

Archer81
12-06-2010, 09:15 PM
Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.


:Broncos:

Archer81
12-06-2010, 09:16 PM
<DD>"Is this the region, this the soil, the clime," Said then the lost Archangel, "this the seat that we must change for Heaven?--This mournful gloom for that celestial light? Be it so, since he who now is sovereign can dispose and bid what shall be right: farthest from him is best whom reason hath equalled, force hath made supreme above his equals. Farewell, happy fields, where joy for ever dwells! Hail, horrors! hail, infernal world! and thou, profoundest Hell, receive thy new possessor--one who brings a mind not to be changed by place or time. The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. what matter where, if I be still the same, and what I should be, all but less than he whom thunder hath made greater? Here at least we shall be free; th' Almighty hath not built here for his envy, will not drive us hence: Here we may reigh secure; and, in my choice, to reign is worth ambition, though in Hell: better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven. But wherefore let we then our faithful friends, th' associates and co-partners of our loss, lie thus astonished on th' oblivious pool, and call them not to share with us their part in this unhappy mansion, or once more with rallied arms to try what may be yet regained in Heaven, or what more lost in Hell?" </DD>
:Broncos:

broncocalijohn
12-06-2010, 09:24 PM
While the thread has some possible humor, it isn't wat I made it out to begin with. When we canned shanny, I felt I was left out of the loop. I felt stupid for bagging on Wolf4life about his post to can shanahan and I pretty much ignored it and posted about food to hijack it. I think many now, like me, who won't be so blinded by whatever is broncos, it must be alright. I wanted josh gto work out but every week seemed to get worse. I decided I had to back away from him and be more vocal on my disapproval. To not be blindsided, I am glad I did so early enough. So, while maybe two havve actually stated how u feel, the hijacking from the others is telling. My response to roh was personal and not to be meant for any others. Hell, I am wondering how popps feels right now on it. I would say relief t but I don't know.

Requiem
12-06-2010, 09:26 PM
I feel like Matt Damon in Rounders after he busts up Teddy KGB at the end of the flick andwinds up back where he started, with three stacks of high society.

Dedhed
12-06-2010, 09:47 PM
I don't feel any different. The plight of the Broncos hasn't changed. We are out of the playoff hunt, and in dire need of talent. I have no allegiance to McDaniels now that he isn't a Bronco, just like I have no allegiance to Cutler, Shanahan, Hillis, Marshall, or Scheffler.

I'm gonna hope that McDaniels is an utter failure everywhere else he goes because he will be working towards the success of another franchise. I hope Shanahan is an utter failure in Washington and that Marshall fails in Miami, that Hillis flops for the rest of his career, and that Cutler frowns his way into a backup role in two years. If they are longer Broncos, screw 'em. McDaniels is no longer a Bronco, so screw him.

My internet ego isn't more important to me than the success of this franchise. Rooting for anyone outside the organization because someone within it made a decision you don't agree with is just as lame as it gets for me.

A close second is being naive enough to think that you know better what's right for this franchise than the people who are running it. I don't play that game, so I'm not personally offended by anything that ownership, management, or a coach does. I still get to root for the Broncos like I always have.

I also get to sleep well every night knowing that I never pledged allegiance to a credo that hoped for anyone within the organization to fail.

Popps
12-06-2010, 09:50 PM
I don't feel any different. The plight of the Broncos hasn't changed. We are out of the playoff hunt, and in dire need of talent. I have no allegiance to McDaniels now that he isn't a Bronco, just like I have no allegiance to Cutler, Shanahan, Hillis, Marshall, or Scheffler.

I'm gonna hope that McDaniels is an utter failure everywhere else he goes because he will be working towards the success of another franchise. I hope Shanahan is an utter failure in Washington and that Marshall fails in Miami, that Hillis flops for the rest of his career, and that Cutler frowns his way into a backup role in two years. If they are longer Broncos, screw 'em. McDaniels is no longer a Bronco, so screw him.

My internet ego isn't more important to me than the success of this franchise. Rooting for anyone outside the organization because someone within it made a decision you don't agree with is just as lame as it gets for me.

A close second is being naive enough to think that you know better what's right for this franchise than the people who are running it. I don't play that game, so I'm not personally offended by anything that ownership, management, or a coach does. I still get to root for the Broncos like I always have.

I also get to sleep well every night knowing that I never pledged allegiance to a credo that hoped for anyone within the organization to fail.


Bullseye.

HAT
12-06-2010, 10:07 PM
I'm bummed....But it's not about being wrong or right BCJ. Doesn't matter if his name was Josh or tom, Dick or Harry. I just hate the idea of giving up on a new hire 28 games in. It is a very dangerous road to travel and I hope Bowlen knows what he is doing or at least has a plan in place.

The one thing I do appreciate though is that it happened today if it was going to happen anyway. 32 games wouldn't have been enough either but if Bowlen had his mind made up no matter what...I like that they have a full month to get things in place. Whether that means a GM first or a backroom deal with a 'name' coach...At least they have a leg up on other franchises making changes.

The one thing that hasn't changed for me though is I still don't want Tebow to get significant reps. I've been on record for wanting a career year out of Orton to pump up his trade value and then just go in all in with Tebow next September. I'd like to see that happen still. Orton's trade value could quite possibly increase over the next month if he maintains his season average numbers without McD.

I think at this point I'd want Gruden b/c I really want somebody to just roll with Tebow from day 1 next year and let the chips fall where they may.

Short of that....Give me a Frazier or Harbaugh and just blow the whole ****ing up. Send Orton & Tebow packing for whatever you can get, draft a QBOTF in round 1 to compete with Quinn in another throwaway year and draft ALL defense after that.

So yeah....you guys can pop all the corks you want tonight but there's a reason "be careful what you wish for" is a cliche.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2010, 10:37 PM
I'm bummed....But it's not about being wrong or right BCJ. Doesn't matter if his name was Josh or tom, Dick or Harry. I just hate the idea of giving up on a new hire 28 games in. It is a very dangerous road to travel and I hope Bowlen knows what he is doing or at least has a plan in place.

The one thing I do appreciate though is that it happened today if it was going to happen anyway. 32 games wouldn't have been enough either but if Bowlen had his mind made up no matter what...I like that they have a full month to get things in place. Whether that means a GM first or a backroom deal with a 'name' coach...At least they have a leg up on other franchises making changes.

The one thing that hasn't changed for me though is I still don't want Tebow to get significant reps. I've been on record for wanting a career year out of Orton to pump up his trade value and then just go in all in with Tebow next September. I'd like to see that happen still. Orton's trade value could quite possibly increase over the next month if he maintains his season average numbers without McD.

I think at this point I'd want Gruden b/c I really want somebody to just roll with Tebow from day 1 next year and let the chips fall where they may.

Short of that....Give me a Frazier or Harbaugh and just blow the whole ****ing up. Send Orton & Tebow packing for whatever you can get, draft a QBOTF in round 1 to compete with Quinn in another throwaway year and draft ALL defense after that.

So yeah....you guys can pop all the corks you want tonight but there's a reason "be careful what you wish for" is a cliche.

****ing rep, man.

Kaylore
12-06-2010, 10:39 PM
I'm sad it didn't work out. Josh made a lot of bad moves. He made good moves too. Alas, it was his losses that did him in. This shows its not about knowing what you want. Its about knowing how to get there. Josh couldn't get to his vision.

Cito Pelon
12-06-2010, 10:43 PM
How do you Pro McDaniels posters feel now that McDaniels is fired? Do you feel pissed, relief you wont have to back him publicly anymore, frustrated with him, frustrated with Bowlen, embarrassed, etc. The Maners will comfort you like we did for TJ and his Gutless Drunk thread or Orange4Life's Suicide Watch when we drafted Cutler :strong: We have been known to comfort the hurt and the insane so let us know how you are feeling of this McDaniels firing and let the healing begin. I hope TheCool will be first to line up but there are some other beauts that should be inline now if they havent committed suicide yet.

That about covers it. I kinda felt this was going to be a struggle for him when he had his hiring press conf and was dancing around behind the podium like he had to pee real bad. Looked too bedazzled by the whole thing.

doonwise
12-06-2010, 10:43 PM
This shows its not about knowing what you want. Its about knowing how to get there. Josh couldn't get to his vision.

Ahh, well said!

strafen
12-06-2010, 10:46 PM
I know this is proposed as a very tongue in cheek thread, but for one day I think its ok to talk about the old coaching regime and whine a little bit.

this sets us back another 2 years at least, and we don't know what the next guy is going to think of Tebow, or Orton, or anyone for that matter. Champ will be gone next year (if there's football) and we are once again going to be switching schemes which is annoying. I thought he should have gotten anohter year but we don't know what brought this on behind the scenes. I feel like more will come out and this wasnt just a performance based firing, something else is going on here.
I felt like McDaniels vision was great. I liked what he wanted the team to be and I liked a lot of the things he did. It's a shame that on Sundays that vision never came to fruition.
Oh well...time to move onThe next thing that would make me as happy as I'm right now would be getting rid of Orton.
My Goodness, I can't describe the happiness that would bring me.

~Crash~
12-06-2010, 10:48 PM
Nice thread
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2,file=5370,filename=dumbass.png

yes McRohirrim Ha!

Chris
12-06-2010, 10:48 PM
I know this is proposed as a very tongue in cheek thread, but for one day I think its ok to talk about the old coaching regime and whine a little bit.

this sets us back another 2 years at least, and we don't know what the next guy is going to think of Tebow, or Orton, or anyone for that matter. Champ will be gone next year (if there's football) and we are once again going to be switching schemes which is annoying. I thought he should have gotten anohter year but we don't know what brought this on behind the scenes. I feel like more will come out and this wasnt just a performance based firing, something else is going on here.
I felt like McDaniels vision was great. I liked what he wanted the team to be and I liked a lot of the things he did. It's a shame that on Sundays that vision never came to fruition.
Oh well...time to move on

This. P.S. you say a lot of dumb ****. All the best.

maven
12-06-2010, 10:56 PM
Should have kept him as head coach.

colonelbeef
12-07-2010, 03:34 AM
I'm sure they feel like David Koresh followers...

lmao

colonelbeef
12-07-2010, 03:37 AM
I'm bummed....But it's not about being wrong or right BCJ. Doesn't matter if his name was Josh or tom, Dick or Harry. I just hate the idea of giving up on a new hire 28 games in. It is a very dangerous road to travel and I hope Bowlen knows what he is doing or at least has a plan in place.

The one thing I do appreciate though is that it happened today if it was going to happen anyway. 32 games wouldn't have been enough either but if Bowlen had his mind made up no matter what...I like that they have a full month to get things in place. Whether that means a GM first or a backroom deal with a 'name' coach...At least they have a leg up on other franchises making changes.

The one thing that hasn't changed for me though is I still don't want Tebow to get significant reps. I've been on record for wanting a career year out of Orton to pump up his trade value and then just go in all in with Tebow next September. I'd like to see that happen still. Orton's trade value could quite possibly increase over the next month if he maintains his season average numbers without McD.

I think at this point I'd want Gruden b/c I really want somebody to just roll with Tebow from day 1 next year and let the chips fall where they may.

Short of that....Give me a Frazier or Harbaugh and just blow the whole ****ing up. Send Orton & Tebow packing for whatever you can get, draft a QBOTF in round 1 to compete with Quinn in another throwaway year and draft ALL defense after that.

So yeah....you guys can pop all the corks you want tonight but there's a reason "be careful what you wish for" is a cliche.

I guarantee you that Bowlen fired McDaniels this suddenly with the express reason being he has somebody in mind, and that they might be weighing other offers. He has a target and he doesn't want to wait. Otherwise, unless there is something more to the Spygate disaster, or something else happened behind closed doors, there is no logical reasoning for the sudden firing.

colonelbeef
12-07-2010, 03:40 AM
I don't feel any different. The plight of the Broncos hasn't changed. We are out of the playoff hunt, and in dire need of talent. I have no allegiance to McDaniels now that he isn't a Bronco, just like I have no allegiance to Cutler, Shanahan, Hillis, Marshall, or Scheffler.

I'm gonna hope that McDaniels is an utter failure everywhere else he goes because he will be working towards the success of another franchise. I hope Shanahan is an utter failure in Washington and that Marshall fails in Miami, that Hillis flops for the rest of his career, and that Cutler frowns his way into a backup role in two years. If they are longer Broncos, screw 'em. McDaniels is no longer a Bronco, so screw him.

My internet ego isn't more important to me than the success of this franchise. Rooting for anyone outside the organization because someone within it made a decision you don't agree with is just as lame as it gets for me.

A close second is being naive enough to think that you know better what's right for this franchise than the people who are running it. I don't play that game, so I'm not personally offended by anything that ownership, management, or a coach does. I still get to root for the Broncos like I always have.

I also get to sleep well every night knowing that I never pledged allegiance to a credo that hoped for anyone within the organization to fail.

This is an extremely naive point of view.

For example- a class full of kindergartners on crystal meth could have done a better job running the Lions than Matt Millen did.

Just because somebody is in the position doesn't make them automatically qualified- it simply makes them lucky.

DBroncos4life
12-07-2010, 03:43 AM
It takes skill to coach yourself out of a job in just a year and a half. Clearly McD has that ability. Thank god our owner figured out what most of us already picked up on after the FO couldn't keep a trade rumor a secret.