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Inkana7
12-06-2010, 03:50 PM
How hard is it to CiDtL?

I know you think your little acronym is cute and awesome and all, but repetition is always annoying, so please stop.

extralife
12-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Nope If this is based on performance only I am done with the Broncos and with the NFL.

What possible good can come of firing him now.

This is STUPID STUPID STUPID

I waste too much time with this anyway.

oh man this post makes the firing worth it

fan police no longer is a fan

ahahahahah I love life sometime

(...still a dumb decision)

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Bill McCartney says that the plan all along has been to allow a black man to be the coach of the Broncos.

Didn't Marlin Brisco pass away?

Rigs11
12-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Wow..stay classy Denver.

Goobzilla
12-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Ben McDaniels promoted to interim HC?

McDman
12-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Nope If this is based on performance only I am done with the Broncos and with the NFL.

What possible good can come of firing him now.

This is STUPID STUPID STUPID

I waste too much time with this anyway.

It absolutely can't be, it's a culmination of things. If none of the drama goes down and the record is the same no way he is fired.

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 03:51 PM
oh man this post makes the firing worth it

fan police no longer is a fan

ahahahahah I love life sometime

(...still a dumb decision)

EPIC, how many times has the troll threatend to leave in the last couple weeks?

Broncomutt
12-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Holy crap!

So shocked!

So relieved!

:strong::strong:

OrangenBlueOhio
12-06-2010, 03:52 PM
nope. Josh's dad was just there to pick him up from football practice. He also reportedly brought josh a juice box, but it wasn't the flavor he liked.

lollollol

Los Broncos
12-06-2010, 03:52 PM
I'm reading that Josh's dad is going to coach the team, hope your happy.

Rulon Velvet Jones
12-06-2010, 03:52 PM
I feel like I should start posting again. This is too juicy. Where's Dagmar?

OABB
12-06-2010, 03:52 PM
Ben McDaniels promoted to interim HC?

lol.

HILife
12-06-2010, 03:52 PM
Look at it this way. The last time Bowlen fired a coach 1 1/2 years into the season, Broncos eventully won two Superbowls. So who knows.

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 03:52 PM
I'm blaming Shanahan, Hillis, Cutler, Marshall, Scheffler, Weigmann, Fozzie Smiff...

Did I miss anyone?

Oh yeah, I'm blaming Brett Kern and Mike Leach as well.

LOL

yerner
12-06-2010, 03:53 PM
Beat it, Josh.

PRBronco
12-06-2010, 03:53 PM
"Still finalizing" who will be interim? Jesus **** was this spur of the moment?

McDman
12-06-2010, 03:53 PM
Like I said before, it's never dull being a Bronco fan!

bowtown
12-06-2010, 03:53 PM
Ben McDaniels promoted to interim HC?

That would be the most tragically hilarious thing ever.

extralife
12-06-2010, 03:53 PM
...Colquitt still got the job locked up?

DomCasual
12-06-2010, 03:53 PM
Look at it this way. The last time Bowlen fired a coach 1 1/2 years into the season, Broncos eventully won two Superbowls. So who knows.

Huh? Who?

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 03:53 PM
We need a good GM (Eric LaCosta from the Ravens would be my choice) and good head coach like Gruden or Jim Harbaugh. That's my dream.

boppool
12-06-2010, 03:53 PM
I was reading an article about Troy Calhoun was never considered a candidate for CU job, because he was courted by the Broncos. The source said that Calhoun was much better NFL HC prospect than a college one.

Air Force used to be an option offense, but Calhoun is more of a spread-offense guy as he was the offensive coordinator for Gary Kubiak. I'd love for us to hire a big name coach, but Bowlen already spent too much on McD...

Oh, well. cut the losses and move on, I guess.

bowtown
12-06-2010, 03:54 PM
...Colquitt still got the job locked up?

Yeah, the HC job is what I'm hearing.

extralife
12-06-2010, 03:54 PM
Gruden ain't coming back to play nice with a GM

give me the Schottenheimers. Brian coaching, Marty calling the shots.

phibacka31
12-06-2010, 03:54 PM
Me too Homer, but I just don't see that happening... I see a Calhoun type hiring...ugh

Los Broncos
12-06-2010, 03:54 PM
...Colquitt still got the job locked up?

Someone will be in to compete for the job.

elsid13
12-06-2010, 03:54 PM
Darn, this means we're going to have to get a new long snapper.

Clockwork Orange
12-06-2010, 03:54 PM
I was reading an article about Troy Calhoun was never considered a candidate for CU job, because he was courted by the Broncos. The source said that Calhoun was much better NFL HC prospect than a college one.

Air Force used to be an option offense, but Calhoun is more of a spread-offense guy as he was the offensive coordinator for Gary Kubiak. I'd love for us to hire a big name coach, but Bowlen already spent too much on McD...

Oh, well. cut the losses and move on, I guess.

As long as he's serious about rebuilding this defense, I can get on board with him.

BroncoLifer
12-06-2010, 03:54 PM
I'd like to be a fly on Shanahan's wall right about now.

DivineBronco
12-06-2010, 03:55 PM
i just hope patty ice sells the team to someone who loves denver before he is forced by his illness to someone who would like nothing more than to move the team

DrFate
12-06-2010, 03:55 PM
good head coach like Gruden or Jim Harbaugh. That's my dream.

Hard to imagine Harbaugh bailing on Stanford right before the Orange Bowl...

extralife
12-06-2010, 03:55 PM
I'd like to be a fly on Shanahan's wall right about now.

he should hire McD to be QB coach

how amazing would that be

(it'd be a good hire, too)

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 03:55 PM
What a joke our team has become.

robbieopperude
12-06-2010, 03:55 PM
The Raiders were beating our ass at Home before McDaniels came to Denver.

Um..Shanahan owned the Raiders for so long that the law of averages almost forced us to lose a couple times there at the end.

I think Shanahan has sort of lost his touch with going with two many vets and he is showing that in Washington right now. I'm not sure if the guy knows how to rebuild and he needed to here and he needs to there.

Josh was clearly in over his head as a coach and a motivator. He alienated some of his best players and didn't develop the Patriot way that Bowlen thought he was hiring. I think poor draft choices have also done him in.

Taking Bey Bey over Dez is looking pretty shaky right now plus the whole trading a 2 for a 1 the year before. Dude manipulated the draft board well but picked players like **** so far. Even if he hit with all those DB's the fact he never put youth on the DL is a major downfall in the drafting equation.

I still support the Tebow pick however.

Tombstone RJ
12-06-2010, 03:55 PM
I'd like to be a fly on Shanahan's wall right about now.

He's too busy turning one of the best defenses in the NFL into one of the worst defenses...

OABB
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
this is like breaking up with your girlfriend. you get so excited about all the pussy you can finally get, and than you end up with some calhoun type fatty.

****.

bowtown
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Darn, this means we're going to have to get a new long snapper.

Hilarious!

TomServo
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
NFL network has a crawl on the bottom of the screen of all the players that McD let go. apparentley its not just posters on the OM that question letting all that talent go, crybabys, malcontents or not.

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Hard to imagine Harbaugh bailing on Stanford right before the Orange Bowl...

He could leave after. Let Wink coach for the rest of the season, hell we'll have a good draft pick! Ha!

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Bill McCartney says that the plan all along has been to allow a black man to be the coach of the Broncos.

:spit:

Goobzilla
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Lonnie Paxton the coach killer. :-)

thecool
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
This has got to be the longest pause to wait for the interim HC.

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
ESPN is talking about mCd on air now

Dr. Broncenstein
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Oh thank god.

razorwire77
12-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Three things:

1.) I hope to God the Troy Calhoun thing is just Internet conjecture
2.) The timing is horrible. But at this point, I really hope Bowlen cleans house and **** cans Xanders too. I also hope he already has his guy in place.
3.) What happens if we finish 3-13, and Andrew Luck is sitting there? Timmy was Josh's project. The next coach (particularly a West Coast offense guy) probably isn't going to be Enamored with him like Josh was.

Interesting, and potentially epically sucky time to be a Bronco Fan.

extralife
12-06-2010, 03:57 PM
Really though we have no one that can be an interim

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 03:57 PM
Stop b****ing Mcd lovers..

Gawd, you're even a troll when you get the news you want.

BroncoLifer
12-06-2010, 03:57 PM
He's too busy turning one of the best defenses in the NFL into one of the worst defenses...

Yes, but I bet that his day just got a little happier.

oubronco
12-06-2010, 03:57 PM
I don't know if this is good or not now we have to start over

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 03:57 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Troy_Calhoun-July2008-MediaDay.jpg/220px-Troy_Calhoun-July2008-MediaDay.jpg

Come get me Pat.



















http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/auto-facepunch.jpg

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 03:58 PM
Maybe they can get something for the Teboz.

HILife
12-06-2010, 03:58 PM
Huh? Who?

Wade Phillips fired, Shanny hired.

Dr. Broncenstein
12-06-2010, 03:58 PM
Ding dong the witch is dead.

DomCasual
12-06-2010, 03:58 PM
Wade Phillips fired, Shanny hired.

I got that. But that was at the end of the season - not in the middle.

orangemonkey
12-06-2010, 03:58 PM
Our owner might be the most important and respected owner in the NFL. Don't you ever bring a cheating mentality and this level of fail to Denver and **** with Bowlen. So friggen excited. All Bronco Country should unite!!!! I'm totally down with starting over and not making the same mistakes twice. Go Broncos!!!!!!!

gtown
12-06-2010, 03:58 PM
Harbaugh would be awesome. And if we suck the rest of the year, we might be able to scoop up Luck to go with him.

Clockwork Orange
12-06-2010, 03:58 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Troy_Calhoun-July2008-MediaDay.jpg/220px-Troy_Calhoun-July2008-MediaDay.jpg

Come get me Pat.

Wow. They could sell serious ad space on that fivehead.

DenverBroncosJM
12-06-2010, 03:59 PM
I just dont understand doing this now. Make the poor guy give his presser and then fire him? That underhanded now matter if you like the guy or not we gain nothing by doing this or handling it this way

This is some Bowlen Bush League ****. welcome to 3-13 next year too. this is amazing

BlaK-Argentina
12-06-2010, 03:59 PM
Damn.

Did NOT think they would fire him before the end of the season, if at all.

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 03:59 PM
Yeah, even Wade got two years.

LOL

Rulon Velvet Jones
12-06-2010, 03:59 PM
Donatell is the rumor.

extralife
12-06-2010, 03:59 PM
I just dont understand doing this now. Make the give his presser and then fire him?

This is some Bowlen Bush League ****. welcome to 3-13 next year too. this is amazing

yeah, that's pretty classless

DomCasual
12-06-2010, 03:59 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Troy_Calhoun-July2008-MediaDay.jpg/220px-Troy_Calhoun-July2008-MediaDay.jpg

Come get me Pat.


Pat could sell advertising on his forehead.

boppool
12-06-2010, 04:00 PM
As long as he's serious about rebuilding this defense, I can get on board with him.

He started his career with the Broncos as a defensive assistant.

HILife
12-06-2010, 04:00 PM
I got that. But that was at the end of the season - not in the middle.

Was it? I wasn't a Broncos fan at that time. I thought it was in the middle of the season.

Broncomutt
12-06-2010, 04:00 PM
Our owner might be the most important and respected owner in the NFL. Don't you ever bring a cheating mentality and this level of fail to Denver and **** with Bowlen. So friggen excited. All Bronco Country should unite!!!! I'm totally down with starting over and not making the same mistakes twice. Go Broncos!!!!!!!

:thumbsup:

DomCasual
12-06-2010, 04:00 PM
Wow. They could sell serious ad space on that fivehead.

Bazing!

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:00 PM
Too bad I don't have a gf anymore so I could get a sympathy beej.

bowtown
12-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Donatell is the rumor.

Don't mind him as the interim. Don't want as long term answer.

BroncoLifer
12-06-2010, 04:01 PM
I just dont understand doing this now. Make the poor guy give his presser and then fire him? That underhanded now matter if you like the guy or not we gain nothing by doing this or handling it this way

This is some Bowlen Bush League ****. welcome to 3-13 next year too. this is amazing

Maybe he said something or Bowlen just learned something that we don't know about yet.

DivineBronco
12-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Our owner might be the most important and respected owner in the NFL. Don't you ever bring a cheating mentality and this level of fail to Denver and **** with Bowlen. So friggen excited. All Bronco Country should unite!!!! I'm totally down with starting over and not making the same mistakes twice. Go Broncos!!!!!!!

sadly not anymore.....he is not well.....the bowlen we have now makes decisions then forgets he makes them........this is a sad sad day.....not because we have lost mcd but it is now clear that pat is adrift at sea

DomCasual
12-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Was it? I wasn't a Broncos fan at that time. I thought it was in the middle of the season.

Yeah. It was after it was over. This is unprecedented, for the Broncos.

Broncomutt
12-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Was it? I wasn't a Broncos fan at that time. I thought it was in the middle of the season.

Yah, Wade got 2 full years. He even had us in the playoffs one of them.

OABB
12-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Donatell is the rumor.

where did you see that?

OABB
12-06-2010, 04:02 PM
Too bad I don't have a gf anymore so I could get a sympathy beej.

blart maybe.

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 04:02 PM
Donatell is the rumor.

Ed Donatell (born 1958 in Stow, Ohio[1]) is an American football coach.

Most recently he served as the defensive coordinator for the University of Washington Huskies football team from January to December 2008 under Tyrone Willingham.[2] He and the entire staff were let go after the winless 2008 season

Noooo!

Rulon Velvet Jones
12-06-2010, 04:02 PM
where did you see that?

Where everything lives these days - on Twitter.

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:02 PM
blart maybe.

Hahahaha, gross.

Boltjolt
12-06-2010, 04:02 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Troy_Calhoun-July2008-MediaDay.jpg/220px-Troy_Calhoun-July2008-MediaDay.jpg

Come get me Pat.


Nice Rug Ha!

Rulon Velvet Jones
12-06-2010, 04:03 PM
Isn't this about the right time of year to be interviewing college coaches as they have about a month off before their bowl games?

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:03 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/12/herm.jpg

Our new coach!

THE719!
12-06-2010, 04:04 PM
who can deny all the bad moves he made in less then 2 years? he needed to be fired....

extralife
12-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Jim Mora will be interim so he can give his famous playoffs speech for the next few weeks

JJJ
12-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Well done. Hoodie Jr. deserved it. He really was a smug little dude.

Someone will get a pretty good OC next year with the kid though.

Tombstone RJ
12-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Isn't this about the right time of year to be interviewing college coaches as they have about a month off before their bowl games?

I might be able to live with Jim Harbough...if he has help

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Ed Donatell looking like the front runner

HILife
12-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Yah, Wade got 2 full years. He even had us in the playoffs one of them.

Playoffs? Really? Why did he get fired then?

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
12-06-2010, 04:05 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/12/herm.jpg

Our new coach!

As our HC.....Hell no. As our DC.....Hell yes.

extralife
12-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Kyle Shanahan is coming home. Wouldn't have trouble finding a place to stay on such short notice.

HILife
12-06-2010, 04:05 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/12/herm.jpg

Our new coach!

Oh, please no.

thecool
12-06-2010, 04:05 PM
who can deny all the bad moves he made in less then 2 years? he needed to be fired....

There has not been 1 move that he hasn't been able to replace other than Peyton Hillis.

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Ed Donatell looking like the front runner

Defensive backs coach? Really?

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 04:06 PM
I was going to resurrect the "Bowlen, you gutless drunk" thread, but TJ locked and closed it.

Chicken ****. ;D

El Minion
12-06-2010, 04:06 PM
Donatell is the rumor.

Ed '4th and 26' Donatell ?

oubronco
12-06-2010, 04:06 PM
Who's gonna coach

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:07 PM
He plays to win the game!

bowtown
12-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Defensive backs coach? Really?

He's a good coach. We could do worse as an interem coach. I do not want him long term though, and we better get a GM in place now.

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:07 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-Oha_7alHJ8/Rrz9AzSpSmI/AAAAAAAAA6o/di1rgBVr_xI/s400/dennis_green.jpg

extralife
12-06-2010, 04:07 PM
I say Bowlen raffle off the HC job each week for the rest of the season

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Defensive backs coach? Really?

That is what they are saying right now on NFL network,

Ed has a long history with the Broncos and has been on the staff during the SB run, looks like Bowlen wants to get back to Bronco football, not Patsy Chuck it deep ball.

OABB
12-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Ed '4th and 26' Donatell ?

yep.

elsid13
12-06-2010, 04:08 PM
Front Office is attempting to go the Fired for cause clause

DomCasual
12-06-2010, 04:08 PM
Playoffs? Really? Why did he get fired then?

Two things:

1) They were awful to watch those years. And Wade - as nice a guy as he is - was a buffoon. When I close my eyes, I see him on the sideline with his hands in the air, as if to say, "What just happened?"

2) Shanahan was a hot prospect, and he was available.

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 04:08 PM
So what happens with Xanders?

No way they keep him too.

frerottenextelway
12-06-2010, 04:08 PM
I was going to resurrect the "Bowlen, you gutless drunk" thread, but TJ locked and closed it.

Chicken ****. ;D

Ha, I went to bump it up too.

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 04:09 PM
On NFL Network they are going through the list of mCd FAIL

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 04:10 PM
So what happens with Xanders?

No way they keep him too.

He'll surely go too.

strafen
12-06-2010, 04:11 PM
That is what they are saying right now on NFL network,

Ed has a long history with the Broncos and has been on the staff during the SB run, looks like Bowlen wants to get back to Bronco football, not Patsy Chuck it deep ball.Didn't you just win 200 bucks from botown?
He said Mcdaniels would outlast Hillis in the NFL! ROFL!Ha!

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 04:11 PM
On NFL Network they are going through the list of mCd FAIL

And it's ****. Marshall was replaced, 90% of Broncos fans are happy Cutler is gone.

Steve Sewell
12-06-2010, 04:12 PM
Gruden ain't coming back to play nice with a GM

give me the Schottenheimers. Brian coaching, Marty calling the shots.

How about you go pound sand instead? Seriously, Marty Shottenheimer? Why don't we just hire Al Davis to be our head coach?

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:12 PM
There has not been 1 move that he hasn't been able to replace other than Peyton Hillis.

Hmmm he went rookie at center and paid dearly. He went rookie at guard and paid dearly. He tried to rent a vet on the dline and it didn't work out.

Then to top it off it got to the point Broncos were being made fun of. Not enough players on the field, bad penalties, special teams breakdowns etc etc.

I don't blame Mcdaniels for everything but I'm not surprised nor do I think he got a crappy deal from Bowlen.

The Broncos couldn't be any worst if I was the coach. Seriously you could just tell Tebow to scribble plays in the dirt and Champ to do the same and get 3 wins.

I think the defensive coordinator just as bad though. I can see why they won't name him interim coach.

They have to interview minorities so the search begins.

Minority coaches to interview=?

strafen
12-06-2010, 04:12 PM
On NFL Network they are going through the list of mCd FAIL
Is a long one.
A lot longer than Popps' version... Ha!:strong::strong:

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:12 PM
And it's ****. Marshall was replaced, 90% of Broncos fans are happy Cutler is gone.

Yeah, Lloyd has ran circles around Marshall in production this year. Marshall is a very big talented possession receiver.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:13 PM
We all know some of the white coaches that would be on a short list. The list also needs some good black or mexican coaches as well though right?

Who are the hot names as far as the minority coaches go?

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 04:13 PM
On NFL Network they are going through the list of mCd FAIL

LOL

That could be it's own epic mini series with spinoffs!

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:13 PM
Hmmm he went rookie at center and paid dearly. He went rookie at guard and paid dearly. He tried to rent a vet on the dline and it didn't work out.

Then to top it off it got to the point Broncos were being made fun of. Not enough players on the field, bad penalties, special teams breakdowns etc etc.

I don't blame Mcdaniels for everything but I'm not surprised nor do I think he got a crappy deal from Bowlen.

The Broncos couldn't be any worst if I was the coach. Seriously you could just tell Tebow to scribble plays in the dirt and Champ to do the same and get 3 wins.

I think the defensive coordinator just as bad though. I can see why they won't name him interim coach.

They have to interview minorities so the search begins.

Minority coaches to interview=?

I think Beadles is going to be good and maybe Walton. I'm actually pretty excited about the future of our line.

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 04:13 PM
We all know some of the white coaches that would be on a short list. The list also needs some good black or mexican coaches as well though right?

Who are the hot names as far as the minority coaches go?

Bowlen knows Jose Cuervo and Pepe Lopez pretty well

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 04:14 PM
Mock is behind this.

Somehow

or Beezer

El Minion
12-06-2010, 04:14 PM
yep.

From one Defensive fail to the next. :nono:

http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/5285/1fred-mh111_medium.jpg

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:14 PM
We all know some of the white coaches that would be on a short list. The list also needs some good black or mexican coaches as well though right?

Who are the hot names as far as the minority coaches go?

I say we break the barrier and go Asian.

boppool
12-06-2010, 04:14 PM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02fZ0o7bdH6gb/610x.jpg

http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2007/12/15/1197767491_3912/539w.jpg

http://media.masslive.com/sports_impact/photo/josh-mcdaniels-bill-belichick-badcaa8053fb95f9_large.jpg

The legend grows...

tebowisdabomb
12-06-2010, 04:16 PM
Wade Phillips needs a new gig

Dedhed
12-06-2010, 04:17 PM
And it's ****. Marshall was replaced, 90% of Broncos fans are happy Cutler is gone.

I can understand the firing, and I guess I'm glad they cut losses if they weren't moving forward with McDaniels. However, I won't miss a single player that McDaniels got rid of.

Cutler is a loser, Marshall is a cancerous head case, Scheffler is softer than warm Brie, and Hillis is nothing more than a good RB who has become the great white hope for media and Broncos fans alike.

TailgateNut
12-06-2010, 04:18 PM
I don't think we should've fired him but really how much can it hurt us?


Quite a bit considering that we're still paying Shanahan and now McD. Maybe we can get a HS coach to take care of business for peanuts.

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:18 PM
I can understand the firing, and I guess I'm glad they cut losses if they weren't moving forward with McDaniels. However, I won't miss a single player that McDaniels got rid of.

Cutler is a loser, Marshall is a cancerous head case, Scheffler is softer than warm Brie, and Hillis is nothing more than a good RB who has become the great white hope for media and Broncos fans alike.

I'll miss Hillis, that's it.

extralife
12-06-2010, 04:19 PM
We all know some of the white coaches that would be on a short list. The list also needs some good black or mexican coaches as well though right?

Who are the hot names as far as the minority coaches go?

Fraiser again if the Viking's don't just name him HC

El Minion
12-06-2010, 04:20 PM
I say we break the barrier and go Asian.

I agree, Norm Chow would be a great candidate for HC

http://footballmonopoly.com/images/norm_chow.jpg

boppool
12-06-2010, 04:20 PM
Quite a bit considering that we're still paying Shanahan and now McD. Maybe we can get a HS coach to take care of business for peanuts.

That's why Calhoun hire would makes sense. He's a Bronco man and would love to be the man here, so he would come in for much cheaper.

DrFate
12-06-2010, 04:20 PM
CBS 4 apparently has no love for McDaniels (ouch)...

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/josh.mcdaniels.fired.2.2036823.html


"...whose hiring by team owner Pat Bowlen is now viewed as a monumental mistake."


"...made a series of personnel blunders"

Sir_Robin
12-06-2010, 04:20 PM
So, since is the first time since I've been a fan that the Broncos have fired mid-season. Does the interim coach have to be someone already on staff? I ask given the interviewing requirements for the job per NFL policy.

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 04:20 PM
Quite a bit considering that we're still paying Shanahan and now McD. Maybe we can get a HS coach to take care of business for peanuts.

Wouldn't do any worse.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
12-06-2010, 04:20 PM
I agree, Norm Chow would be a great candidate for HC

http://footballmonopoly.com/images/norm_chow.jpg

Rep!!!

robbieopperude
12-06-2010, 04:21 PM
Tony Dungy would do in a pinch. Maybe a Shannon Sharpe/Sterling Sharpe combo.

Steve Sewell
12-06-2010, 04:21 PM
Maybe the Skins will lets us have Shanny back with a good GM?

OABB
12-06-2010, 04:21 PM
So, since is the first time since I've been a fan that the Broncos have fired mid-season. Does the interim coach have to be someone already on staff? I ask given the interviewing requirements for the job per NFL policy.

good question. exactly what I was wondering.

Dedhed
12-06-2010, 04:21 PM
Yeah, Lloyd has ran circles around Marshall in production this year. Marshall is a very big talented possession receiver.

I've been extremely impressed with Lloyd this season, but I've also been extremely disappointed with him the last few weeks.

He's been playing scared in recent weeks and not doing the things that made this a career year for him.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:21 PM
I think Beadles is going to be good and maybe Walton. I'm actually pretty excited about the future of our line.

Hmm Walton never once looked to me like a player who can push someone around. Just because Nalen was so good at moving around bigger players doesn't mean that is an easy type of center to find.

I'd be vary critical if Broncos go into next season without a plan B at center, running back, TE, Safety. Obviously we should look to build front 7 with the high draft picks but that doesn't mean its the only problem.

I think a move back to the 4-3 should be the first order of business.

Ayers at strongside DE, Doom on the other end. Draft a big DT high in the draft and cross our fingers. Use whatever we have left on dline to come up with role players and the rotation.

Put DJ back at WSL and let him run and cover.

Beg Champ to stay and offer him top 5 corner money for 3 more yrs.

Not sure about Cox and the other scrubs running around in the backfield. New coach will need to sort through that garbage.

I'd cut Dawkins and look for younger stop gaps at the safety spot. Always some safetys available in FA.

Then the one wild card would be does Harris in NY hit FA and could we maybe throw a ton of money at him. Stick him at ssl or maybe even the middle.

Rulon Velvet Jones
12-06-2010, 04:22 PM
Broncos interim coach will be RB coach Eric Studesville..

TailgateNut
12-06-2010, 04:22 PM
good lord... You think that fool will make the difference? Seriously?? Or should i go with the overused term of the day.... Really?

this!

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:22 PM
I agree, Norm Chow would be a great candidate for HC

http://footballmonopoly.com/images/norm_chow.jpg

haha, that's the only one I could think of too. I'd take him as a coordinator.

DrFate
12-06-2010, 04:22 PM
So, since is the first time since I've been a fan that the Broncos have fired mid-season. Does the interim coach have to be someone already on staff? I ask given the interviewing requirements for the job per NFL policy.

On staff, no - but if they hire a full-time replacement they will be compelled to follow the Rooney rule (and interview a minority candidate)

I don't think anyone on staff is going to be named interim, as there isn't anyone there who you'd want even occupying the office...

Rulon Velvet Jones
12-06-2010, 04:22 PM
Rooney Rule satisfied.

(Dumbass rule)

Dedhed
12-06-2010, 04:22 PM
So, since is the first time since I've been a fan that the Broncos have fired mid-season. Does the interim coach have to be someone already on staff? I ask given the interviewing requirements for the job per NFL policy.

That is a good question. I doubt that the same due process rules apply to an interim coach, but I could be wrong.

PRBronco
12-06-2010, 04:23 PM
Studesville.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:23 PM
Unless the 2nd round picks work out the Marshall deal not good. Lloyd will never have another yr like this...There I said it.

Lloyd is a decent WR in the NFL who had a great yr because Broncos played from way behind all yr and coach throws it 50 times a game. Get over thinking he is special or even a reason not to draft a stud WR.

Broncos need playmakers all over the football field. Draft whoever you think is going to be the biggest studs. I really hope that is Marcel Dareus though, but I am no scout. He just looks big and mean to me.

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:23 PM
Hmm Walton never once looked to me like a player who can push someone around. Just because Nalen was so good at moving around bigger players doesn't mean that is an easy type of center to find.

I'd be vary critical if Broncos go into next season without a plan B at center, running back, TE, Safety. Obviously we should look to build front 7 with the high draft picks but that doesn't mean its the only problem.

I think a move back to the 4-3 should be the first order of business.

Ayers at strongside DE, Doom on the other end. Draft a big DT high in the draft and cross our fingers. Use whatever we have left on dline to come up with role players and the rotation.

Put DJ back at WSL and let him run and cover.

Beg Champ to stay and offer him top 5 corner money for 3 more yrs.

Not sure about Cox and the other scrubs running around in the backfield. New coach will need to sort through that garbage.

I'd cut Dawkins and look for younger stop gaps at the safety spot. Always some safetys available in FA.

Then the one wild card would be does Harris in NY hit FA and could we maybe throw a ton of money at him. Stick him at ssl or maybe even the middle.

Well, he's a rookie. We'll see.

Fedaykin
12-06-2010, 04:23 PM
Now Bowlen needs to follow through and do it right.

Get a good GM
Get a good HC

Don't mix the two.

extralife
12-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Amazing

best name of any Broncos coach ever

usher in a new era, Studesville

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Interim bypasses the rooney rule.

Abqbronco
12-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Two things:

1) They were awful to watch those years. And Wade - as nice a guy as he is - was a buffoon. When I close my eyes, I see him on the sideline with his hands in the air, as if to say, "What just happened?"

2) Shanahan was a hot prospect, and he was available.

I'll never forget him running down the sideline waving Hugh Millen towards the first down marker. I knew he had to go at that point.

Hugh Millen... That didn't help his cause all that much either.

baja
12-06-2010, 04:24 PM
oh man this post makes the firing worth it

fan police no longer is a fan

ahahahahah I love life sometime

(...still a dumb decision)

Idiots like you make my decision of letting go of 30 years worth of watching the Broncos much more palatable.

Fan Police my ass.....

Bunch of over paid entitled young bucks that I have no use for and they have no use for me. Screw it.

I'm back to fishing & hiking I'll leave the fandom to guys

El Minion
12-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Twitterverse: Broncos interim coach will be RB coach Eric Studesville..

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Well, he's a rookie. We'll see.

Which is why they should have had some sort of bkup vet ready to go in. I mean what team doesn't do that?

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Unless the 2nd round picks work out the Marshall deal not good. Lloyd will never have another yr like this...There I said it.

Lloyd is a decent WR in the NFL who had a great yr because Broncos played from way behind all yr and coach throws it 50 times a game. Get over thinking he is special or even a reason not to draft a stud WR.

Broncos need playmakers all over the football field. Draft whoever you think is going to be the biggest studs. I really hope that is Marcel Dareus though, but I am no scout. He just looks big and mean to me.

I think Marshall is a good receiver, not great. He's a glorified possession receiver. He just never scores a lot of touchdowns.

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 04:25 PM
Studesville?

LOL

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:25 PM
Which is why they should have had some sort of bkup vet ready to go in. I mean what team doesn't do that?

We definitely should have had one. I always thought Josh's biggest fall back was him GM ability.

extralife
12-06-2010, 04:25 PM
Idiots like you make my decision of letting go of 30 years worth of watching the Broncos much more palatable.

Fan Police my ass.....

Bunch of over paid entitled young bucks that I have no use for and they have no use for me. Screw it.

I'm back to fishing & hiking I'll leave the fandom to guys

how dare my team fire a coach that can't win a game

I'M OFF THE SHIP

STILL SEETHING FROM THE WADE PHILLIPS FIRING

BRING BACK LOU SABAN

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 04:26 PM
Hey, there's a rumor that Sundquist is coming back. Oh, happy days. :spit:

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:26 PM
Twitterverse: Broncos interim coach will be RB coach Eric Studesville..

Haha, this team is hilarious.

Merlin
12-06-2010, 04:26 PM
Despite the utter nonsense McD apologists write, I'm with them on this one. Unless Bowlen found some reason for fire for cause, I just don't get it. I never cared for the hire, I thought his power grab was a clear red flag, and then his handling of of personnel and the draft pointed to utter incompetence and idiocy. However, he was smart, so I felt I could always hope. Then his unadultered hubris totally took control of his behavior and analysis and it was clear he needed to be fired...but now??? in the middle of the season??? Could he not at least been forced to play Teabow and see how he could coach him up??? This decision in some ways is more moronic than firing Shanny (and I thought that was especially dumb, but understandable considering Shanny's stance with his DC), what benefit do we gain from firing him at this juncture? He could not wait 4 freaking games??? Is McD's immaturity contagious and now Bowlen suffers from it? Please, please, tell us you fired him with cause, then at least there is some reasonable justification for this action at this point in the season.

bowtown
12-06-2010, 04:26 PM
Studesville?

LOL

Didn't see that one coming.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:27 PM
Basically the Broncos are saying we waited until playoff elimination to fire coach and there is no one on staff we like. They picked a guy everyone knows will never be a head coach if Studsville if the guy. They are telling d coord you are done at end of the yr.

Well here we go again looking for a coach. At least we get early start on the rest of teams.

IMO Bowlen looked at the fact several coaches could be fired and thought why not get an early start.

By Mcdaniels I guess we hate you now. :)

extralife
12-06-2010, 04:27 PM
Welcome to STUDSVILLE

POP: MY FIST, YOUR FACE

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:27 PM
Brandon Lloyd doesn't even know who Studesville is! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

boppool
12-06-2010, 04:27 PM
I agree, Norm Chow would be a great candidate for HC

http://footballmonopoly.com/images/norm_chow.jpg

You cannot be serious... We need a guy a coach with a strong personality and someone who will command respect. Chow would be a bigger mistake than McDaniels..

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2010, 04:27 PM
Wow. Studesville?

srphoenix
12-06-2010, 04:28 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Studesville its wiki official as well, did some nice work with the running backs here, in buffalo, and with the giants. I don't see any chance this goes beyond interim though.

DB_champ24
12-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Wait a minute. When Shannahan got fired, everybody was thinking we were going to have a Jets type of turn around. Why can't we have that now?

In all honesty, Mangini did a pretty nice job of building the core pieces to that team, such as the O line, a lot of the front 7 and revis

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 04:28 PM
He did manage to get a couple 100 yard games out of Moreno, so Stoody might be onto something.

SonOfLe-loLang
12-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Wow. Studesville?

Hes just a placeholder, who cares. he looks intimidating

Steve Sewell
12-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Already updated on wikipedia rofl:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Studesville

RaiderH8r
12-06-2010, 04:29 PM
Didn't see that one coming.

No kidding. I guess this means Wink is logging on to Monster.com as we speak.

hookemhess
12-06-2010, 04:29 PM
What the hell is an Eric Studesville?

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:29 PM
You cannot be serious... We need a guy a coach with a strong personality and someone who will command respect. Chow would be a bigger mistake than McDaniels..

It was a joke.

HILife
12-06-2010, 04:29 PM
Brandon Lloyd doesn't even know who Studesville is! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

lol lol lol

Broncobiv
12-06-2010, 04:29 PM
By Mcdaniels I guess we hate you now. :)

What? Haven't you been paying attention the past couple of seasons? This board LOVES people that used to be employed by the Denver Broncos!

srphoenix
12-06-2010, 04:29 PM
maybe we'll just keep doing what mcd was doing with tebow... run run run

strafen
12-06-2010, 04:29 PM
Studesville?

LOLWho else we've got?
Really.
McIdiot let go of anything that could've exposed him as a fraud.
Anybody with legitimate NFL experience that could see thru McDaniels BS, was gone. Nolan, Dennison, Turner...

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:30 PM
Hey, there's our minority candidate.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:30 PM
I think Marshall is a good receiver, not great. He's a glorified possession receiver. He just never scores a lot of touchdowns.

That is true and he seems strange.

The Marshall thing can still work out for Denver.

Cutler probably not so much. He throws a ton of picks but can make things happen. I bet he starts in Chicago longer the Orton will for Broncos but you never know.

Broncos just need to make these next draft picks work. We have a really high first and 2nd, and then a mid 2nd from the fish. We need talent with those picks.

What can we do to make the football gods send us some players short of killing someone?

DrFate
12-06-2010, 04:30 PM
Wikipedia already updated... wow...

strafen
12-06-2010, 04:30 PM
I wonder what they're saying on NE Pats boards?

Soul-Bronco
12-06-2010, 04:30 PM
makes all the more sense for gruden to come.......please o please no kubiak, unless you add wade to that =)

HILife
12-06-2010, 04:30 PM
Twitterverse: Broncos interim coach will be RB coach Eric Studesville..

who?

Broncos4tw
12-06-2010, 04:31 PM
Why are people acting as if they know this was a kneejerk reaction by Bowlen? That it makes no sense? To Bowlen, this is a BUSINESS. He may be proud of it, but at the end of the day, he makes $$$ from the Broncos. He could be affecting huge losses due to the rapid drop of the Broncos. We've lost 7 of the last 8 games. Stadium is near empty by the fourth qtr, and half gone by the half. I don't think you fully appreciate how much revenue a stadium brings in.

The firing is probably solely from a corporate perspective. The guy wasn't bringing in the bucks.

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 04:31 PM
I wonder if Joe Ellis is the one who sold Bowlen on Josh?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2010, 04:31 PM
Who else we've got?
Really.
McIdiot let go of anything that could've exposed him as a fraud.
Anybody with legitimate NFL experience that could see thru McDaniels BS, was gone. Nolan, Dennison, Turner...

Yeah, I like fiction too. Did you read The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo? I figure a fiction lover like you would have really enjoyed that book.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:31 PM
What? Haven't you been paying attention the past couple of seasons? This board LOVES people that used to be employed by the Denver Broncos!

I just noticed I used the wrong bye lol. Sigh now Ms Moose going to come spell correct me again.

Man just depressing to be a Bronco fan right now......

Here is to better days for our football team.:sunshine:

robbieopperude
12-06-2010, 04:31 PM
Ultimately if Josh McDaniels could go back in time he could have done this scenario and probably lived out his entire contract here.

A: Never flirted with the idea of Matt Cassel and stuck with Jay Cutler.
B: Not trade up swapping a future number 1 for a 2.
C: Keep Scheffler who was buds with Cutler and made a great tandem.
D: Clearly keeping Hillis would have been beneficial and we would still have him if we didn't fill the need to take a look at Quinn with Cutler gone or maybe he cuts him. Either way I don't blame McD for that because he was buried behind Moreno.
E: Used picks to draft DL instead of WR & QB.


Note: I still like the Marshall trade because the guy wanted to much money and was to much of a head case. If we kept him it would have to be an incentive laden deal imo. I also liked the Dawkins signing for motivational leadership.

Sir_Robin
12-06-2010, 04:31 PM
Despite the utter nonsense McD apologists write, I'm with them on this one. Unless Bowlen found some reason for fire for cause, I just don't get it. I never cared for the hire, I thought his power grab was a clear red flag, and then his handling of of personnel and the draft pointed to utter incompetence and idiocy. However, he was smart, so I felt I could always hope. Then his unadultered hubris totally took control of his behavior and analysis and it was clear he needed to be fired...but now??? in the middle of the season??? Could he not at least been forced to play Teabow and see how he could coach him up??? This decision in some ways is more moronic than firing Shanny (and I thought that was especially dumb, but understandable considering Shanny's stance with his DC), what benefit do we gain from firing him at this juncture? He could not wait 4 freaking games??? Is McD's immaturity contagious and now Bowlen suffers from it? Please, please, tell us you fired him with cause, then at least there is some reasonable justification for this action at this point in the season.

It's only been a little over a week since McDaniel's was fined. I'm wondering if that's about the same amount of time it would take for lawyers to pour over contracts and see if firing McDaniel's would be justified and void his contract...

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 04:31 PM
I wonder what they're saying on NE Pats boards?

What do they care?

Their offense hasn't missed a beat since Poopy came to Denver.

HILife
12-06-2010, 04:31 PM
This thread got to 18 pages FAST!

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 04:32 PM
Now Josh will go to Cleveland and bust off 2000 yards.

strafen
12-06-2010, 04:32 PM
What? Haven't you been paying attention the past couple of seasons? This board LOVES people that used to be employed by the Denver Broncos!
Yeah, I'm waiting for Popps to throw his old coach under the bus, or to claim he has said on another thread that he thought McDaniels was going to be fired this week. ROFL!

DenverBroncosJM
12-06-2010, 04:32 PM
Haha Bowlen the voice of reason and experience..If you are happy about this you must have had a burning hatred of McD. we are the new Browns/Raiders etc.

Crushaholic
12-06-2010, 04:32 PM
Mock is behind this.

Somehow

or Beezer

Seriously. Mock's two favorite teams BOTH can their coaches before the season is over? It can't be a coincidence...

vancejohnson82
12-06-2010, 04:32 PM
awesome....i wonder what players we are going to ship out when the new scheme comes into town

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 04:32 PM
I wonder what they're saying on NE Pats boards?

Probablly talking about playoffs and winning games

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:32 PM
I wonder what they're saying on NE Pats boards?

Probably bring him back as an offensive asst which is what I see happening. Unless that is spygate II and Mcdaniels little rant about NE being worst has made poppy billy soured on his little jedi.

Mcdaniels may be screwed

McDman
12-06-2010, 04:32 PM
That is true and he seems strange.

The Marshall thing can still work out for Denver.

Cutler probably not so much. He throws a ton of picks but can make things happen. I bet he starts in Chicago longer the Orton will for Broncos but you never know.

Broncos just need to make these next draft picks work. We have a really high first and 2nd, and then a mid 2nd from the fish. We need talent with those picks.

What can we do to make the football gods send us some players short of killing someone?

That's why we needed a GM. I just hope Bowlen learned something.

Tombstone RJ
12-06-2010, 04:33 PM
Why are people acting as if they know this was a kneejerk reaction by Bowlen? That it makes no sense? To Bowlen, this is a BUSINESS. He may be proud of it, but at the end of the day, he makes $$$ from the Broncos. He could be affecting huge losses due to the rapid drop of the Broncos. We've lost 7 of the last 8 games. Stadium is near empty by the fourth qtr, and half gone by the half. I don't think you fully appreciate how much revenue a stadium brings in.

The firing is probably solely from a corporate perspective. The guy wasn't bringing in the bucks.

Ever hear of Tebow? Fail.

HILife
12-06-2010, 04:33 PM
awesome....i wonder what players we are going to ship out when the new scheme comes into town

Tebow

DenverBroncosJM
12-06-2010, 04:33 PM
Why are people acting as if they know this was a kneejerk reaction by Bowlen? That it makes no sense? To Bowlen, this is a BUSINESS. He may be proud of it, but at the end of the day, he makes $$$ from the Broncos. He could be affecting huge losses due to the rapid drop of the Broncos. We've lost 7 of the last 8 games. Stadium is near empty by the fourth qtr, and half gone by the half. I don't think you fully appreciate how much revenue a stadium brings in.

The firing is probably solely from a corporate perspective. The guy wasn't bringing in the bucks.

Yah they are going to flood the stadium now with Studesville as the coach....

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:33 PM
awesome....i wonder what players we are going to ship out when the new scheme comes into town

Name 1 player on the defense who is really a 3-4 specialist player. They are all 4-3 players.

kamakazi_kal
12-06-2010, 04:33 PM
awesome...... He left the cupboards bare that's for sure.

Thanks McD.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:33 PM
Ron Fields, Jammal Williams, Bannan? all gone probably.

strafen
12-06-2010, 04:33 PM
awesome....i wonder what players we are going to ship out when the new scheme comes into townOrton, hopefully, and all those rejects from other teams McDaniels piled up in two years...

Tombstone RJ
12-06-2010, 04:34 PM
Jamie Dukes is probably loving this knee jerk firing.

Shoemaker
12-06-2010, 04:34 PM
Name 1 player on the defense who is really a 3-4 specialist player. They are all 4-3 players.

Doom certainly seemed to flourish in the 3-4 more than he ever had in the 4-3.

orangeatheist
12-06-2010, 04:34 PM
Why are people acting as if they know this was a kneejerk reaction by Bowlen? That it makes no sense? To Bowlen, this is a BUSINESS. He may be proud of it, but at the end of the day, he makes $$$ from the Broncos. He could be affecting huge losses due to the rapid drop of the Broncos. We've lost 7 of the last 8 games. Stadium is near empty by the fourth qtr, and half gone by the half. I don't think you fully appreciate how much revenue a stadium brings in.

The firing is probably solely from a corporate perspective. The guy wasn't bringing in the bucks.

On Black Friday there was a sale at the Broncos' Team Store at Invesco. I'd like to know what the numbers were....

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:34 PM
The only thing that matter is can doom play in a 4-3? The answer is yes he can just like Freeny does. You line him up wide, get some big DT and pin your ears back.

Shoemaker
12-06-2010, 04:34 PM
Orton, hopefully, and all those rejects from other teams McDaniels piled up in two years...

You want to get rid of Brandon Lloyd?

Ooookay then.

illbroncsfn
12-06-2010, 04:35 PM
I do hope that we keep our 3-4 defense- just need a real NFL defensive coordinator....sorry wink

TheReverend
12-06-2010, 04:36 PM
Jesus I take one quick little nap and I miss something I've been waiting 1 3/4 years for?

boppool
12-06-2010, 04:36 PM
Hey, there's our minority candidate.

Exactly what I was thinking..

TailgateNut
12-06-2010, 04:36 PM
Tebow

Send his stupid ass packing!

Merlin
12-06-2010, 04:36 PM
It's only been a little over a week since McDaniel's was fined. I'm wondering if that's about the same amount of time it would take for lawyers to pour over contracts and see if firing McDaniel's would be justified and void his contract...
I'm a corporate lawyer, and I know it doesn't take that long; however, it may take that long to get the ducks in a row and pull the trigger. Maybe it took that long to negotiate a buyout ???

THE719!
12-06-2010, 04:37 PM
I will say this.... and I cant believe I am....... McDaniels may be a good coach after this or when a G.M has more power then he does.... did we not give him enough time... maybe....... however he did not waste anytime destroying this team that only needed defense once upon a time ago

RaiderH8r
12-06-2010, 04:37 PM
Do you guys think Josh knew this was coming and that's why McDaddyD was in town? Help him move his **** back into the basement? Of course mcDaddyD ain't gonna have no loser like this coach anywhere near his Canton high boys. That losin' is contagious boy.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:37 PM
Doom certainly seemed to flourish in the 3-4 more than he ever had in the 4-3.

I thought doom looked good rushing the passer in a 3-4 and awkward doing everything else.

In a 4-3 he rushes passer from the same basic spot on the field using same techniques to beat the LT. But now he wont have to be a liability in coverage. He's to short to cover IMO.

He can be run at either way so not much difference really.

I think Doom better in a 4-3 because football about more then just 15 sacks vs 10 sacks.

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 04:38 PM
I thought doom looked good rushing the passer in a 3-4 and awkward doing everything else.

In a 4-3 he rushes passer from the same basic spot on the field using same techniques to beat the LT. But now he wont have to be a liability in coverage. He's to short to cover IMO.

He can be run at either way so not much difference really.

I think Doom better in a 4-3 because football about more then just 15 sacks vs 10 sacks.

Agreed.

Teams with a solid and committed running game make him disappear unfortunately.

He only had 6 sacks the last 10 games once teams figured out the DLine sucked.

orangeatheist
12-06-2010, 04:39 PM
Jesus I take one quick little nap and I miss something I've been waiting 1 3/4 years for?

Pretty amazing, eh Rev? After our discussion in the chat room yesterday. Wonder what Sunday will bring?

Dedhed
12-06-2010, 04:39 PM
I think a move back to the 4-3 should be the first order of business.

Please tell me you're kidding. The 3-4 is so much better suited for today's NFL it's absurd. We're at least half way to a successful conversion, and it would be insane to backpedal into a 4-3.

Dumervil and Ayers are the cornerstones to build around, and they've shown they can stand up as well as they can put their hand in the ground.

Keep Wink, draft a stud DL or CB and get on with things.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:39 PM
You want to get rid of Brandon Lloyd?

Ooookay then.

Lloyd could still be a 1 yr wonder, product of inflated passing numbers.

Not saying don't keep him though. Broncos will have to keep a lot of players just how it is. The WR do have a lot of young players. Decker and DT we will need to see way more of. Royal/Gaffney/Lloyd.... I could see some competition even there from a new player somewhere on the depth chart.

RaiderH8r
12-06-2010, 04:40 PM
Bowlen asked McKid why he didn't go for it on 4th down late in the game and McKid said, "sometimes a half a loaf of bread is better than no loaf of bread." And the rest is history.

spdirty
12-06-2010, 04:40 PM
Glory glory halelujah! Thank God! What a great day for football in Colorado!

vancejohnson82
12-06-2010, 04:41 PM
I'm really interested in seeing how the playcalling goes this weekend.

And another thing: there is a very good chance we win a few games down the stretch here because the schedule is cake. And everyone is going to claim that Josh was the only problem, etc....

Tonight will be the only night I voice my displeasure of the firing and will be on board with the new regime no matter who it is. But I don't like the move

extralife
12-06-2010, 04:41 PM
CU should've held out an extra week

WolfpackGuy
12-06-2010, 04:42 PM
Bowlen asked McKid why he didn't go for it on 4th down late in the game and McKid said, "sometimes a half a loaf of bread is better than no loaf of bread." And the rest is history.

Half a loaf?

More like a few crumbs with this team.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2010, 04:43 PM
Orton, hopefully, and all those rejects from other teams McDaniels piled up in two years...

Anytime you can ship out a total team player who has done everything he's been asked to do while breaking records, you've got to make that happen.

I think you're getting dumber.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:43 PM
Please tell me you're kidding. The 3-4 is so much better suited for today's NFL it's absurd. We're at least half way to a successful conversion, and it would be insane to backpedal into a 4-3.

Dumervil and Ayers are the cornerstones to build around, and they've shown they can stand up as well as they can put their hand in the ground.

Keep Wink, draft a stud DL or CB and get on with things.

Yeah just like I was crazy when I was saying how crappy the Broncos were going to be this yr.....here we go again with people just refusing to listen to anything they don't want to hear.

Doom isn't an all around OLB and would be better as DE with 2 big DT anchoring inside.

If we stick with the 3-4 then we need to get rid of DJ Williams because he is suited to play the weakside in a 4-3. Also Haggan not really enough of anything to even start in either configuration. He could be a bkup in either though.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:44 PM
Doom gets ran on alot either way but can't cover worth a crap.

robbieopperude
12-06-2010, 04:44 PM
I must admit that I was for trading Doom last year when his value was deemed as high as a 1st and a 3rd or 4th. I don't think teams were willing to give us that for him but I do think he is a little undersized/incomplete overall player for the contract he received. He is certainly not on Terrel Suggs level.

I can also say that having a guy who sacks a QB and creates a fumble is probably the most valuable commodity in the NFL right now. Shut down corners don't even carry as much value because teams just scheme them out more than they can DE's. So I am happy to have a guy who I know is good for probably 4 or 5 game changing plays a season.

RaiderH8r
12-06-2010, 04:44 PM
Half a loaf?

More like a few crumbs with this team.

There's an old timer or two on this board that knows exactly what I'm talking about. Course Bowlen wasn't owner at the time but the quote and fall out was legendary.

Goobzilla
12-06-2010, 04:44 PM
Something obviously happened today. They never would have let Josh hold the presser if they knew earlier in the day they were going to jettison him.

My theories (feel free to add your own):

They told Josh they were bringing in a GM and he was going to have to take a cut in his authority and just coach the team. He refused and was let go.

More info on the video taping incident came to light

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Glory glory halelujah! Thank God! What a great day for football in Colorado!

How do you know? It could be the worst day of all time, depending on what happens next.

cutthemdown
12-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Also keep wink? You kidding the new coach will fire every single coach. Maybe a few asst stick but no way and big coordinators like Wink.

If Broncos would hire Wade to coach the 3-4 then I will be on board with it. Wink though can go suck it with Mcdaniels as soon as season is over.

Broncobiv
12-06-2010, 04:45 PM
And another thing: there is a very good chance we win a few games down the stretch here because the schedule is cake. And everyone is going to claim that Josh was the only problem, etc...

Denver already had some "cake" games this season, and McD managed to lose those (SF and St. Louis). Not saying I agree with the firing, but it's not like McD didn't have his chances to beat some powderpuffs.

go_broncos
12-06-2010, 04:46 PM
Something obviously happened today. They never would have let Josh hold the presser if they knew earlier in the day they were going to jettison him.

My theories (feel free to add your own):

They told Josh they were bringing in a GM and he was going to have to take a cut in his authority and just coach the team. He refused and was let go.

More info on the video taping incident came to light

I think it has to do with Tebow not starting...

Gutless Drunk
12-06-2010, 04:46 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/McDaniels-Relieved-of-Duties/7867f9a0-741f-406c-ab5a-ad136195d994

On Monday, Broncos President and CEO Pat Bowlen relieved Josh McDaniels of his head coaching duties.

In 28 games as the head coach of the Broncos, McDaniels accumulated a record of 11-17.
Running Backs Coach Eric Studesville will serve as interim head coach for the remaining four games of the season.

"My decision to relieve Josh McDaniels as head coach was not taken lightly," Bowlen said in a statement. "I will always be appreciative of his passion, enthusiasm and hard work, and I thank him for his efforts. In the end, I was not satisfied with the results and the direction this team was headed. The decision to make a change was extremely difficult but one that needed to be made for this organization and our fans."

Studesville becomes the fourth interim head coach in team history, and the 13th head coach of the Broncos.

In his 14th season in the league, Studesville has been a running backs coach for 10 of them, guiding four individuals to a total of seven 1,000-yard rushing seasons. His running backs have registered 34 individual 100-yard rushing efforts, a total that includes 14 by Willis McGahee, 12 by Tiki Barber and two by Knowshon Moreno.

"I am very appreciative of the trust that Mr. Bowlen and the entire Denver Broncos organization have shown in me," Studesville said in a statement. "Although the circumstances that this opportunity resulted from are unfortunate, I am excited to lead this football team. We have a great group of players and coaches who are committed to finishing the season on a promising note and making our fans proud of this team."

With Sunday's loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, the Broncos dropped to 3-9 in 2010 and were eliminated from playoff contention.

"Everyone, myself included, is accountable for our disappointing season and is now responsible for restoring the culture of winning that has been established by this franchise," Bowlen said. "Our entire organization is completely focused on returning to the level of prosperity that our fans expect and deserve from the Denver Broncos."

Broncos Chief Operating Officer Joe Ellis and Coach Studesville will be available to the media on Tuesday at 11 a.m. MST, and it will be streamed live on DenverBroncos.com.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2010, 04:46 PM
Something obviously happened today. They never would have let Josh hold the presser if they knew earlier in the day they were going to jettison him.

My theories (feel free to add your own):

They told Josh they were bringing in a GM and he was going to have to take a cut in his authority and just coach the team. He refused and was let go.

More info on the video taping incident came to light

This is what I've been thinking as well.

I really believe your first theory is right on. I wonder if they've already been talking to someone.

Dr. Broncenstein
12-06-2010, 04:46 PM
My theory involves the flaming train wreck this team has become -- as to possibly why Mctoughersmarter was shiatcanned.

extralife
12-06-2010, 04:47 PM
I think it has to do with Tebow not starting...

yeah, that's what I've been rolling with

the irony (if it's true) is just too much

gtown
12-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Belichick is probably laughing his ass off right now. His evil plan to destroy us worked.

KevinJames
12-06-2010, 04:47 PM
First reaction I am shocked this is a mistake in my eyes I am sticking to that this is going to set the Broncos back further people think Josh set the franchise back, his offense is great theres not one better in terms of passing the football and Orton will be exposed if we keep him around in another offense. Whoever is brought in better be someone who wants to develop Tebow, Gruden comes to mind if that happens I think the blow could be softened if not I than I don't really know what to say were ****ed for the future.

Bowlen I don't know what your up to anymore I trust you tho, first you don't wanna pay Marshall long term now you don't wanna pay Bailey long term than you fire a young head coach who has a great offensive system that players can grow under.

I don't get why everyone thinks the Broncos were a team built to win now we never were, this move to me is a knee jerk move and not a good one. Josh McDaniels was stuck with one of the worst defensive units all year injuries all over. Lost his 2 best pass rushers all season almost Dumervil was gone and Ayers was out most of the season.....he took a average QB and made him look like a pro bowler at times took an average WR and turned him into pro bowl star WR .

All that said Bowlen is a smart owner but hes been losing some of that I am real curious to find out who hes going to bring in next season.

Josh McDaniels is being used as a scape goat period.

Rohirrim
12-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Bowlen asked McKid why he didn't go for it on 4th down late in the game and McKid said, "sometimes a half a loaf of bread is better than no loaf of bread." And the rest is history.

Ha!

eddie mac
12-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Looks like Pat found a way to save himself another $6m.

errand
12-06-2010, 04:48 PM
I guess if it's true, then we''l surely win out the rest of the season...and of course we should be making room for that 3rd Lombardi next year right?

TotallyScrewed
12-06-2010, 04:49 PM
I second the "back to square one" sentiments. McD had spend the past 2 seasons bringing in "his guys" and developing them into "his system". Now we are going to have to start ALL OVER from scratch with a new HC and a new system.

Ugh. I don't know if McD was the long term answer or anything, but overall, this whole situation blows.

Except that there is nothing that says Bowlen has to play this the exact same way...maybe He has learned something.

A true GM will make a world of difference (fingers crossed) this time around. Where are the Goodman's?

I can think of a lot of ways this team could be better coached with the names that are out there? Will it happen? We can only hope that the turn around is quick because we get pissy when we lose and bite anything that moves or we think might move.

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 04:50 PM
I like MileHighReport's thinking. Schottenheimer as pro personel guy. His son as HC, Wade as DC... lol