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cartel
12-06-2010, 08:48 AM
As I was watching the ravens-steelers game last night, I started thinking why we don't come up with any kind of creative blitz packages. The amount of blitzes both teams ran made me so envious of that kind of pressure. Our defense sucks creating pressure or turnovers playing bend don't break with our starting personnel, why not bring the freaking heat? I thought Wink was supposed to be a more aggressive d-coord. What happened?

Kaylore
12-06-2010, 08:49 AM
We actually do. Our team just doesn't get pressure even when we do blitz.

Mile High Shack
12-06-2010, 08:49 AM
you assume we have the talent to be able to blitz like that

Lolad
12-06-2010, 08:51 AM
Both the Ravens and Steelers front 3 take up multiple blockers which allows them to free LB's and Safeties to blitz the QB. Our lineman don't demand double teams even fat Williams can be blocked 1 on 1.

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 08:52 AM
I liked Champ's blitz.

cartel
12-06-2010, 09:00 AM
you assume we have the talent to be able to blitz like that

who cares? bring it anyways. try something because last in turnovers means it's time to ditch the old plan.

Mile High Shack
12-06-2010, 09:14 AM
who cares? bring it anyways. try something because last in turnovers means it's time to ditch the old plan.

well, I think the secondary would care since that would leave people running wide open since we would be sending extra people in to blitz and them not get there, thus leaving the QB about 10 Mississippi to throw the ball

Popps
12-06-2010, 09:20 AM
We actually do. Our team just doesn't get pressure even when we do blitz.

Well, we did send a CB blitz that worked out nicely yesterday, but on the whole... you're 100% right.

Blitzing takes skilled blitzers, and we just don't really have them.

Again, put Doom back in this line-up, and you've got a guy opposing offenses have to account for on every play... often with two people. That is a massive boost to a pass rush.

I'm still convinced we could 2 (or so) more wins had Doom/Ayers played healthy this season. Playing without a pass rush is a massive handicap.

go_broncos
12-06-2010, 09:23 AM
Well, we did send a CB blitz that worked out nicely yesterday, but on the whole... you're 100% right.

Blitzing takes skilled blitzers, and we just don't really have them.

Again, put Doom back in this line-up, and you've got a guy opposing offenses have to account for on every play... often with two people. That is a massive boost to a pass rush.

I'm still convinced we could 2 (or so) more wins had Doom/Ayers played healthy this season. Playing without a pass rush is a massive handicap.

ROFL!..This will never get old

Homer Simpson
12-06-2010, 09:26 AM
ROFL!..This will never get old

I don't get it, isn't it true?

Dedhed
12-06-2010, 09:27 AM
As I was watching the ravens-steelers game last night, I started thinking why we don't come up with any kind of creative blitz packages. The amount of blitzes both teams ran made me so envious of that kind of pressure. Our defense sucks creating pressure or turnovers playing bend don't break with our starting personnel, why not bring the freaking heat? I thought Wink was supposed to be a more aggressive d-coord. What happened?It's unfair and unrealistic to expect that a 1st year DC with very limited talent can introduce to his team the complexity and nuance you see from teams with the best defensive talent in the league.

I think most teams in the league are envious of what the Steelers and Ravens are able to do. That comes from a combination of talent and continuity. Something we've clearly lacked on that side of the ball for the last 15 years.

gtown
12-06-2010, 09:32 AM
This is why you keep a DC for more than a year. Get Wink some talent and let him stay as DC, instead of making that position the annual scapegoat, and see what happens over time.

cmhargrove
12-06-2010, 09:35 AM
Individual talent issues.

The blitz works when you have superior athletes capable of quickly beating the man across from them.

Our list of guys that can do that...

(crickets chirping...)

Spider
12-06-2010, 09:43 AM
who cares? bring it anyways. try something because last in turnovers means it's time to ditch the old plan.

a lot of it has to do with the team you are facing on offense ...... Playing the run on the way to the quarterback might be romantic , but not very practical against teams a lot of teams .. Specially if you dont have a dominating safeties.......you look at the squeelers and ratbirds , see who they have at safety

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 09:43 AM
This is why you keep a DC for more than a year. Get Wink some talent and let him stay as DC, instead of making that position the annual scapegoat, and see what happens over time.

I think Canton High want's it's DC back so much that they sent their HC to the Bronco sidelines yesterday. He might have been lobbying mCd to come back as his OC and Ben to be water boy.

Popps
12-06-2010, 09:45 AM
On a side note, would anyone here want to coach a big game with their dad breathing down your neck? I love Popps Sr. dearly, but that would just be too distracting.

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 09:49 AM
On a side note, would anyone here want to coach a big game with their dad breathing down your neck? I love Popps Sr. dearly, but that would just be too distracting.

I am glad I am not the only one who thought that was creepy. I love my dad, and my father-in -law, they can mill around before and after the game but find a seat and get some nacho's.

Per mCd's Presser I think we see his dad there the rest of the year.

go_broncos
12-06-2010, 09:58 AM
I don't get it, isn't it true?

I see in a different way..I see that the coaches don't put the players in best position..They don't know how to use the talent(though it is less)..
Most importantly, our coaches don't adjust..
For instance..Moreno is running well..What did we do??..We kept throwing the ball..The same thing happened against rams also.

Doom played well last season..It might be due to Nolan's scheme.
As one poster said, we have horrible support staff(High school coaches and the coaches that failed in NFL) and that's the reason we are 3-9

cartel
12-06-2010, 10:21 AM
look, i get it. we don't have the talent, superior players, etc, etc. i also tend to remember with coyer, we had about the same crap talent but showed all out blitzes, zone blitzes, at least different looks. harrison was crap before he became blitz king and woodley was drafted as the 46th pick but earned his status by sacking the qb. no imagination leads to dead last in turnovers, grow some and die by the sword.

RaiderH8r
12-06-2010, 10:26 AM
I am glad I am not the only one who thought that was creepy. I love my dad, and my father-in -law, they can mill around before and after the game but find a seat and get some nacho's.

Per mCd's Presser I think we see his dad there the rest of the year.

He's going to tell his daddy on Bronco fans who boo and then we're all in for big trouble because McDaddyD will call our parents. I don't know about you guys but I don't want my parents brought into this, especially going into Christmas. I want that new bike I asked for. So stop being mean to McKid.

Inkana7
12-06-2010, 10:29 AM
He's going to tell his daddy on Bronco fans who boo and then we're all in for big trouble because McDaddyD will call our parents. I don't know about you guys but I don't want my parents brought into this, especially going into Christmas. I want that new bike I asked for. So stop being mean to McKid.

Dude Thom McDaniels would kick Josh's ass for whining about anything like that. I'm from the area where he coaches, and he's one hardass mother****er.

RaiderH8r
12-06-2010, 10:34 AM
Dude Thom McDaniels would kick Josh's ass for whining about anything like that. I'm from the area where he coaches, and he's one hardass mother****er.

Seriously though, how's Thom McDaniels about kicking ass when his kid continually fields an ill equipped and poorly prepared team?

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 11:07 AM
Dude Thom McDaniels would kick Josh's ass for whining about anything like that. I'm from the area where he coaches, and he's one hardass mother****er.

I wonder what the dynamic was like when he was "invited" to stand on the sidelines.

mCd Phone rings "Boy you need any help out there, I just finished another championship season that will go down in the annals of High School football as one of the greatest seasons ever and I see you out there in the hills all struggling and the like."

mCd: "ummmmm hi 'sniff sniff' Dad....hows 'snif' ......ummm 'snif' 'snif' mom? 'hocks up a big lugie' 'wimper'

Mr mCd: "I got me a flight and I will be there in time for your coaches meeting tomorrow now."

mCd: "Ummmm well thats great dad but ummmm I have to ask Mr Bowlen and stuff, I don't know if I will get fined again for...."

Mr mCd: "Boy I am coming out and me and Mr Bowlegs will be having a sit down, I am sure his jaw will drop when he see's all my HS Championship rings on my fingers, everyone here in Canton is stunned with those 1 and 1/4 carats of Exelence and Domination"

mCd: "'snif 'snif'" ya but"

Mr mCd: " Stop your sniveling son"

mCd: "yessir...ummm 'snif' Dad, things are way different here in the NFL, you can't just Chuck it deep to guys, it's tough, the other teams seem faster than 'snif' sniiiiiifffffff' they seemed when I was in NE and people here laugh at my hoodie and stuff"

Mr mCd: "never you mind, I will lick the father of any one that makes fun of my boy, just like that time in Kindergarten, grade school, that time during summer break, the couple hundred times in HS and that time I put that Belly's guy dad in a head lock until he gave you a title."

mCd: " Ummmmmm sniff sniff" "I guess it's ok, maybe the league won't notice and I won't get fined again"

Popps
12-06-2010, 11:11 AM
I am glad I am not the only one who thought that was creepy. I love my dad, and my father-in -law, they can mill around before and after the game but find a seat and get some nacho's.

Per mCd's Presser I think we see his dad there the rest of the year.

At least keep him off to the side or something. Right behind you? WTF?

I mean, it's cool that they're a football family and all, but he's a grown man coaching an NFL team. Unless he's serving a team function, it's a little odd.

PRBronco
12-06-2010, 11:11 AM
Dude Thom McDaniels would kick Josh's ass for whining about anything like that. I'm from the area where he coaches, and he's one hardass mother****er.

Haha I believe that. He looked scary.

I bet all kinds of assistants leak info to the press because he yells at them.

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 11:14 AM
At least keep him off to the side or something. Right behind you? WTF?

I mean, it's cool that they're a football family and all, but he's a grown man coaching an NFL team. Unless he's serving a team function, it's a little odd.

It was the 1st time I ever heard of a guys dad standing there like that, I think they have their kids doing cables and runners but not in the way 2 steps behind his son.

go_broncos
12-06-2010, 11:15 AM
I wonder what the dynamic was like when he was "invited" to stand on the sidelines.

mCd Phone rings "Boy you need any help out there, I just finished another championship season that will go down in the annals of High School football as one of the greatest seasons ever and I see you out there in the hills all struggling and the like."

mCd: "ummmmm hi 'sniff sniff' Dad....hows 'snif' ......ummm 'snif' 'snif' mom? 'hocks up a big lugie' 'wimper'

Mr mCd: "I got me a flight and I will be there in time for your coaches meeting tomorrow now."

mCd: "Ummmm well thats great dad but ummmm I have to ask Mr Bowlen and stuff, I don't know if I will get fined again for...."

Mr mCd: "Boy I am coming out and me and Mr Bowlegs will be having a sit down, I am sure his jaw will drop when he see's all my HS Championship rings on my fingers, everyone here in Canton is stunned with those 1 and 1/4 carats of Exelence and Domination"

mCd: "'snif 'snif'" ya but"

Mr mCd: " Stop your sniveling son"

mCd: "yessir...ummm 'snif' Dad, things are way different here in the NFL, you can't just Chuck it deep to guys, it's tough, the other teams seem faster than 'snif' sniiiiiifffffff' they seemed when I was in NE and people here laugh at my hoodie and stuff"

Mr mCd: "never you mind, I will lick the father of any one that makes fun of my boy, just like that time in Kindergarten, grade school, that time during summer break, the couple hundred times in HS and that time I put that Belly's guy dad in a head lock until he gave you a title."

mCd: " Ummmmmm sniff sniff" "I guess it's ok, maybe the league won't notice and I won't get fined again"

ROFL!
Chuck it deep..that's the only thing Mcd knows..

Inkana7
12-06-2010, 11:18 AM
ROFL!
Chuck it deep..that's the only thing Mcd knows..

Really? I was under the impression last year that this was a "dink and dunk screen offense."

broncosteven
12-06-2010, 11:43 AM
Really? I was under the impression last year that this was a "dink and dunk screen offense."

That was last year, this year is it CiDtL