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KevinJames
11-30-2010, 12:11 PM
I know everyone wants McD gone besides a few (I say give him one more year, injuries dragged us down especially on defense Doom is a huge key to our success everyone knows it)

but lets say he does get fired

Who is the QB?

Orton. He has to learn a brand new offense, as do the WRs lets face it Orton strives in McDaniel's system because its McDaniel's system and thats what its designed to do make QBs and WRs look good

Tebow. Hes sitting there busting his ass learning McDaniels offense studying each game talking to Orton talking to McDaniels talking to other vets on the offense, and you wanna hire a new coach and throw him into the fire with a new offense? That be like him starting as a rookie this year and everyone was against that idea.

You want to hire a new coach and draft a QB? I know the draft has 2 talented prospects but lets face it we have issues on the d-line and secondary and this draft is probably the best draft in awhile for what we need so we have to draft mainly defense.

I hear people saying just focus on the run game and let Orton or Tebow manage the game, well hate to break it to you but we don't have the kind of defense to play like that and probably won't for awhile.

face it we fire McDaniels than we have to not only worry about the defense but the offense will be an issue as well.

We keep McDaniels we can start Orton and Tebow and produce on offense its pretty obvious we can, if McDaniels and the DC (wink or wade whoever) can invest heavily in the draft and quality young FAs on defense and grab more speed on offense a change of pace back would be nice I think that would be our best bet.

Bigdawg26
11-30-2010, 12:23 PM
Yeah the problem with McDaniels is his ego. He has a huge ego that no coach who is any good will work with him (ie like Mike Nolan and Jeremy Bates). Also, he doesn't like superstars because you they take all the light away from him.

Pony Boy
11-30-2010, 12:24 PM
Tebow...Tebow....Tebow.....Tebow

Ray Finkle
11-30-2010, 12:25 PM
Yeah the problem with McDaniels is his ego. He has a huge ego that no coach who is any good will work with him (ie like Mike Nolan and Jeremy Bates). Also, he doesn't like superstars because you they take all the light away from him.

what has Bates done besides the first 5 games of the 08 season?

It all depends on who the HC would be.... I think if it was Gruden, they'd keep Orton and build up his trade value, and then move to Tebow or whoever.

jmz313
11-30-2010, 12:27 PM
face it we fire McDaniels than we have to not only worry about the defense but the offense will be an issue as well.

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same thing could of been said when Shanahan was fired. Most coaches can get one part right. At this point i feel I'd like to see it be Defense.

and the starting QB will be whoever wins the job.

go_broncos
11-30-2010, 12:29 PM
I know everyone wants McD gone besides a few (I say give him one more year, injuries dragged us down especially on defense Doom is a huge key to our success everyone knows it)

but lets say he does get fired

Who is the QB?

Orton. He has to learn a brand new offense, as do the WRs lets face it Orton strives in McDaniel's system because its McDaniel's system and thats what its designed to do make QBs and WRs look good

Tebow. Hes sitting there busting his ass learning McDaniels offense studying each game talking to Orton talking to McDaniels talking to other vets on the offense, and you wanna hire a new coach and throw him into the fire with a new offense? That be like him starting as a rookie this year and everyone was against that idea.

You want to hire a new coach and draft a QB? I know the draft has 2 talented prospects but lets face it we have issues on the d-line and secondary and this draft is probably the best draft in awhile for what we need so we have to draft mainly defense.

I hear people saying just focus on the run game and let Orton or Tebow manage the game, well hate to break it to you but we don't have the kind of defense to play like that and probably won't for awhile.

face it we fire McDaniels than we have to not only worry about the defense but the offense will be an issue as well.

We keep McDaniels we can start Orton and Tebow and produce on offense its pretty obvious we can, if McDaniels and the DC (wink or wade whoever) can invest heavily in the draft and quality young FAs on defense and grab more speed on offense a change of pace back would be nice I think that would be our best bet.

That's bull****..Doom was there last year too and we won only 2 games out of last 10.
Everyone figured Josh play calling after the bye week..and he didn't adjust after that.
I want Bowlen to hire Jim Harbaugh. Hopefully, he will draft Luck.
I don't think Tebow is the answer..

footstepsfrom#27
11-30-2010, 12:31 PM
I know everyone wants McD gone besides a few (I say give him one more year, injuries dragged us down especially on defense Doom is a huge key to our success everyone knows it)

but lets say he does get fired

Who is the QB?

Orton. He has to learn a brand new offense, as do the WRs lets face it Orton strives in McDaniel's system because its McDaniel's system and thats what its designed to do make QBs and WRs look good

Tebow. Hes sitting there busting his ass learning McDaniels offense studying each game talking to Orton talking to McDaniels talking to other vets on the offense, and you wanna hire a new coach and throw him into the fire with a new offense? That be like him starting as a rookie this year and everyone was against that idea.

You want to hire a new coach and draft a QB? I know the draft has 2 talented prospects but lets face it we have issues on the d-line and secondary and this draft is probably the best draft in awhile for what we need so we have to draft mainly defense.

I hear people saying just focus on the run game and let Orton or Tebow manage the game, well hate to break it to you but we don't have the kind of defense to play like that and probably won't for awhile.

face it we fire McDaniels than we have to not only worry about the defense but the offense will be an issue as well.

We keep McDaniels we can start Orton and Tebow and produce on offense its pretty obvious we can, if McDaniels and the DC (wink or wade whoever) can invest heavily in the draft and quality young FAs on defense and grab more speed on offense a change of pace back would be nice I think that would be our best bet.
Urban Meyer would solve all thesse problems if he would only come here.

Champagne Powder
11-30-2010, 12:32 PM
face it we fire McDaniels than we have to not only worry about the defense but the offense will be an issue as well.


I didn't read anything else you wrote except this sentence. Thanks for bolding it, it saved me a minute or so of my life.

go_broncos
11-30-2010, 12:32 PM
Urban Meyer would solve all thesse problems if he would only come here.

Urban Meyer couldn't handle the pressure last year.He almost quit due to health reasons.
I don't think he will come to NFL.

Champagne Powder
11-30-2010, 12:33 PM
Urban Meyer would solve all thesse problems if he would only come here.

http://spotted.stripes.com/images/1/photos/2009/02/09/gallery/2219266.jpg

Pontius Pirate
11-30-2010, 12:34 PM
Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow, back together again. The LULZ would be off the chart.

KevinJames
11-30-2010, 01:11 PM
That's bull****..Doom was there last year too and we won only 2 games out of last 10.
Everyone figured Josh play calling after the bye week..and he didn't adjust after that.
I want Bowlen to hire Jim Harbaugh. Hopefully, he will draft Luck.
I don't think Tebow is the answer..

You ready for the real reason we suck

NO PASS RUSH. WE HAVE 16 SACKS ALL SEASON!! DOOM HAD MORE THAN THAT ALONE LAST SEASON. our 2 best pass rushers out. Last years sack leader Elvis Dumervil out for the year and Robert Ayers has been hurt most of the season, don't matter how good your secondary is. You have no pass rush you will suck in this league period. + add that were 30th in stopping the run.

Yet you wanna fire the guy who has 2 journeyman players leading the Passing and Rec stat categories

that makes no sense.

give McD another year to focus on the defense because he has his offense in gear.

go_broncos
11-30-2010, 01:19 PM
You ready for the real reason we suck

NO PASS RUSH. WE HAVE 16 SACKS ALL SEASON!! DOOM HAD MORE THAN THAT ALONE LAST SEASON. our 2 best pass rushers out. Last years sack leader Elvis Dumervil out for the year and Robert Ayers has been hurt most of the season, don't matter how good your secondary is. You have no pass rush you will suck in this league period. + add that were 30th in stopping the run.

Yet you wanna fire the guy who has 2 journeyman players leading the Passing and Rec stat categories

that makes no sense.

give McD another year to focus on the defense because he has his offense in gear.

What did Ayers did..Please tell me..He played like **** last game.
I don't think we will be competitive even if we had Doom.
He played last year too..Basically, his sacks went down after the bye week last year.

Also, our offense sucks..Orton is showing nice stats..but, our entire offense make mistakes during crunch time.
Mcd play calling sucks..He abandons the running game and likes to keep throwing the ball all the time.It doesn't work like that.

He is finished..He is done..Get over with it..We will have a new coach.

Ray Finkle
11-30-2010, 01:35 PM
What did Ayers did..Please tell me..He played like **** last game.
I don't think we will be competitive even if we had Doom.
He played last year too..Basically, his sacks went down after the bye week last year.

Also, our offense sucks..Orton is showing nice stats..but, our entire offense make mistakes during crunch time.
Mcd play calling sucks..He abandons the running game and likes to keep throwing the ball all the time.It doesn't work like that.

He is finished..He is done..Get over with it..We will have a new coach.

a guy coming off a broken foot played like ****???? STOP THE PRESSES!

epicSocialism4tw
11-30-2010, 01:47 PM
Tebow

HILife
11-30-2010, 01:53 PM
Derek Anderson.

ZONA
11-30-2010, 01:58 PM
Yeah the problem with McDaniels is his ego. He has a huge ego that no coach who is any good will work with him (ie like Mike Nolan and Jeremy Bates). Also, he doesn't like superstars because you they take all the light away from him.

Spoken like a true idiot who doesn't know josh, has never talked to josh, has never talked to anybody who has talked to josh, never talked with anybody who has coached with or played for josh, and so on and so on. Where do you guys come from?

Popps
11-30-2010, 02:44 PM
Yeah the problem with McDaniels is his ego. He has a huge ego that no coach who is any good will work with him (ie like Mike Nolan and Jeremy Bates). Also, he doesn't like superstars because you they take all the light away from him.

Right, which is why he drafted one of the most popular sports figures walking the planet right now...

http://www.nflnewsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/Tim-Tebow.jpg

Makes sense.

HILife
11-30-2010, 02:58 PM
Right, which is why he drafted one of the most popular sports figures walking the planet right now...

http://www.nflnewsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/Tim-Tebow.jpg

Makes sense.

I'm starting to think Tim Tebow is bigger house hold name then Tiger Woods or Jordan.

Lebron James
Tim Tebow
Tiger Woods
Michael Jordan

EDIT:

Lebron James
Tiger Woods
Tim Tebow
Michael Jordan

WolfpackGuy
11-30-2010, 03:19 PM
Not Teboz.

The whoever the new coach is will trade him in a second.

cmhargrove
11-30-2010, 03:29 PM
Tebow...Tebow....Tebow.....Tebow

Tebow...Tebow....Tebow.....Tebow

strafen
11-30-2010, 03:29 PM
I know everyone wants McD gone besides a few (I say give him one more year, injuries dragged us down especially on defense Doom is a huge key to our success everyone knows it)

but lets say he does get fired

Who is the QB?

Orton. He has to learn a brand new offense, as do the WRs lets face it Orton strives in McDaniel's system because its McDaniel's system and thats what its designed to do make QBs and WRs look good

Tebow. Hes sitting there busting his ass learning McDaniels offense studying each game talking to Orton talking to McDaniels talking to other vets on the offense, and you wanna hire a new coach and throw him into the fire with a new offense? That be like him starting as a rookie this year and everyone was against that idea.

You want to hire a new coach and draft a QB? I know the draft has 2 talented prospects but lets face it we have issues on the d-line and secondary and this draft is probably the best draft in awhile for what we need so we have to draft mainly defense.

I hear people saying just focus on the run game and let Orton or Tebow manage the game, well hate to break it to you but we don't have the kind of defense to play like that and probably won't for awhile.

face it we fire McDaniels than we have to not only worry about the defense but the offense will be an issue as well.

We keep McDaniels we can start Orton and Tebow and produce on offense its pretty obvious we can, if McDaniels and the DC (wink or wade whoever) can invest heavily in the draft and quality young FAs on defense and grab more speed on offense a change of pace back would be nice I think that would be our best bet.I'm willing to take my chances.
Fire McDaniels!

cmhargrove
11-30-2010, 03:30 PM
Tebow...Tebow....Tebow.....Tebow

Tebow...Tebow....Tebow.....Tebow

Tebow...Tebow....Tebow.....Tebow

Hamrob
11-30-2010, 04:01 PM
I know everyone wants McD gone besides a few (I say give him one more year, injuries dragged us down especially on defense Doom is a huge key to our success everyone knows it)

but lets say he does get fired

Who is the QB?

Orton. He has to learn a brand new offense, as do the WRs lets face it Orton strives in McDaniel's system because its McDaniel's system and thats what its designed to do make QBs and WRs look good

Tebow. Hes sitting there busting his ass learning McDaniels offense studying each game talking to Orton talking to McDaniels talking to other vets on the offense, and you wanna hire a new coach and throw him into the fire with a new offense? That be like him starting as a rookie this year and everyone was against that idea.

You want to hire a new coach and draft a QB? I know the draft has 2 talented prospects but lets face it we have issues on the d-line and secondary and this draft is probably the best draft in awhile for what we need so we have to draft mainly defense.

I hear people saying just focus on the run game and let Orton or Tebow manage the game, well hate to break it to you but we don't have the kind of defense to play like that and probably won't for awhile.

face it we fire McDaniels than we have to not only worry about the defense but the offense will be an issue as well.

We keep McDaniels we can start Orton and Tebow and produce on offense its pretty obvious we can, if McDaniels and the DC (wink or wade whoever) can invest heavily in the draft and quality young FAs on defense and grab more speed on offense a change of pace back would be nice I think that would be our best bet.Sounds like the same story I was preaching about firing Shanahan. Guess what...nobody listened to me. :thumbs:

Hamrob
11-30-2010, 04:04 PM
You ready for the real reason we suck

NO PASS RUSH. WE HAVE 16 SACKS ALL SEASON!! DOOM HAD MORE THAN THAT ALONE LAST SEASON. our 2 best pass rushers out. Last years sack leader Elvis Dumervil out for the year and Robert Ayers has been hurt most of the season, don't matter how good your secondary is. You have no pass rush you will suck in this league period. + add that were 30th in stopping the run.

Yet you wanna fire the guy who has 2 journeyman players leading the Passing and Rec stat categories

that makes no sense.

give McD another year to focus on the defense because he has his offense in gear.I agree that our biggest weakness is our pass rush. But, I can't give McD any slack because of that. He had all offseason to work on the defense...and this is the best he could do...hiring some bum ex-Pat and then cutting him...and then pulling guys off the scrap heap...like Vickerson? Yeah, I wonder why we suck.

oubronco
11-30-2010, 04:08 PM
Tebow...Tebow....Tebow.....Tebow

Tebow...Tebow....Tebow.....Tebow

Hasn't done shyt!!!!

Greatspirits
11-30-2010, 04:13 PM
Ron Rivera or Harbaugh

elsid13
11-30-2010, 04:27 PM
There is really no big difference in any modern NFL offense. They all basically run the same stuff and attempt to do the same thing. The biggest difference is the terminology and memorization that goes along with it. The offense system should not be factor in firing or keeping McDaniels.

cutthemdown
11-30-2010, 04:29 PM
Kyle Orton is our qb get over it. He's pretty good and in the top 15 of starting qbs. Keep grooming Tebow he needs another year or 2.

frerottenextelway
11-30-2010, 04:32 PM
We should trade Maroney and a 5th for Tom Brady (and a 7th).

Eldorado
11-30-2010, 04:36 PM
you ready for the real reason we suck

no pass rush. We have 16 sacks all season!! Doom had more than that alone last season. Our 2 best pass rushers out. Last years sack leader elvis dumervil out for the year and robert ayers has been hurt most of the season, don't matter how good your secondary is. You have no pass rush you will suck in this league period. + add that were 30th in stopping the run.

Yet you wanna fire the guy who has 2 journeyman players leading the passing and rec stat categories

that makes no sense.

Give mcd another year to focus on the defense because he has his offense in gear.

+1.

cutthemdown
11-30-2010, 04:41 PM
The smart biz move is to give mcdaniels another yr. 3 full yrs!! Give his draft picks a chance to work out. Let him use all the picks he got in trades etc etc. Right now all he did was replace Marshall, replace Cutler etc etc. Let's see if he can do better when he starts to draft front 7.

Garcia Bronco
11-30-2010, 05:00 PM
If we draft another ****ing qb high, I'll scream and throw my house into my laptop.

Tebow is good and can play football; pure and simple. Certainly at an NFL level. We do don't need another QB. We need a defense

HILife
11-30-2010, 05:11 PM
If we draft another ****ing qb high, I'll scream and throw my house into my laptop.

Tebow is good and can play football; pure and simple. Certainly at an NFL level. We do don't need another QB. We need a defense

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Merlin
11-30-2010, 10:39 PM
I know everyone wants McD gone besides a few (I say give him one more year, injuries dragged us down especially on defense Doom is a huge key to our success everyone knows it)
You mean, the defense that had him last yr and was porous as hell and contributed the 2-8 record in the final ten games? I'm sorry, but this belief that Doom would have saved the season is a fairy tale told by many McD apologists. There is little reason to assume that a defense that had him last yr and failed would be better this yr when it is even more poorly coached. As to the problem regarding QBs. You don't through good money into bad. McD has done a marvelous job of destroying a very promising team. Giving him and the FO another opportunity at the draft is just ludicrous. Cut your ties and losses and begin anew. Teabow, despite what many would like to believe is a totally unproven QB. Would I like McD to groom him? Yes, but sadly the price of that is far to high. Bring in a good GM and coach, hire a good QB coach and let the chips fall where they may. You cannot let McD's incompetence with the team and personnel now hold the ownership hostage...this is madness worthy of a Fellini movie.

Now if he somehow manages to get his head out of his (&# and run the table, then he should be given the opportunity to continue, but with a proper GM managing the team and personnel. McD should just concentrate on coaching (he should be part of the interviewing process for the needed changes in position coaching, but should not have final say).

DBroncos4life
11-30-2010, 11:01 PM
Right, which is why he drafted one of the most popular sports figures walking the planet right now...

http://www.nflnewsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/Tim-Tebow.jpg

Makes sense.

If he played him it might....

cutthemdown
12-01-2010, 12:40 AM
If we draft another ****ing qb high, I'll scream and throw my house into my laptop.

Tebow is good and can play football; pure and simple. Certainly at an NFL level. We do don't need another QB. We need a defense

We can keep the QB stuff just like right now. As Tebow gets better we can use that to our advantage in the redzone and in short yardage situations.

We need better oline play for sure. I still think Walton at center is a spot we should still be open minded on. Maybe a vet FA just in case or even keep drafting interior olineman that can play both spots.

The WR seem deep with vets and young players so we are ok there.

We need a TE.

RB's I think we should just grab a journeyman and pair him with Moreno etc.

The offense a lot closer then the defense no reason to try and force Orton out right now. Not sure why people want that. I guess they want a QB that will win those close games at the end more often. Really though Orton always seems to be in tough spots that make that have to happen way to often.

Still a chance Orton can be even better next yr. He is still learning also.

footstepsfrom#27
12-01-2010, 03:35 AM
Tebow...which is why I'm hoping against hope for Meyer.

Rock Chalk
12-01-2010, 05:28 AM
Yeah the problem with McDaniels is his ego. He has a huge ego that no coach who is any good will work with him (ie like Mike Nolan and Jeremy Bates). Also, he doesn't like superstars because you they take all the light away from him.

Did you just call Jeremy Bates a good coach? Hahaha :)

The Superstars comment doesn't make any sense. The two he got rid of have been effectively replaced and them being here does not make the defense better, and probably makes the offense worse. Champ, Dawkins, both superstars (albeit in the twilight of their careers). Dumervil, superstar. Lloyd is becoming one. Its not about Superstars, its about team players. I assure you, that if Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson were on the Broncos, McDaniels would not run them off.

The ego comment is completely fair. I don't know the guy, but he does come off like an egomaniac. I suppose, when you are 34 years old and running an NFL franchise though, you would get a big head. That's no excuse, I am not excusing him, but I can at least relate. I have two big heads afterall!

strafen
12-01-2010, 06:59 AM
Did you just call Jeremy Bates a good coach? Hahaha :)

The Superstars comment doesn't make any sense. The two he got rid of have been effectively replaced and them being here does not make the defense better, and probably makes the offense worse. Champ, Dawkins, both superstars (albeit in the twilight of their careers). Dumervil, superstar. Lloyd is becoming one. Its not about Superstars, its about team players. I assure you, that if Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson were on the Broncos, McDaniels would not run them off.

The ego comment is completely fair. I don't know the guy, but he does come off like an egomaniac. I suppose, when you are 34 years old and running an NFL franchise though, you would get a big head. That's no excuse, I am not excusing him, but I can at least relate. I have two big heads afterall!

You called Lloyd a superstar?!!!!
:rofl: Ha!