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Sassy
11-30-2010, 05:36 AM
Interesting theory...or was it the players around him? Did Mike win back to back SB's or was it Elway and Davis? ;D (Just thought I'd stir up some trouble on a Tuesday! ) ;D

ColoradoDarin
11-30-2010, 05:39 AM
It was the right combination of players, coaches and a little bit of luck that all came together at the right time.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-30-2010, 05:40 AM
It was the right combination of players, coaches and a little bit of luck that all came together at the right time.

Yep. A lot of injury luck as well.

Sassy
11-30-2010, 05:44 AM
The idea behind it...is Shanahan with out #30 and #7 didn't win much in Denver...or right now isn't looking all that great in Washington.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-30-2010, 05:48 AM
The idea behind it...is Shanahan with out #30 and #7 didn't win much in Denver...or right now isn't looking all that great in Washington.

Shanahan actually won a lot without Elway and Davis in Denver... and he's had five minutes with the Redskins.

Careful. Fan police will be here to ask how you could possibly question a legend in Denver.

Sassy
11-30-2010, 05:52 AM
Shanahan actually won a lot without Elway and Davis in Denver... and he's had five minutes with the Redskins.

Careful. Fan police will be here to ask how you could possibly question a legend in Denver.

But what did he do with Griese, Plummer, etc.
(For the record...I liked Mike.)

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-30-2010, 05:56 AM
But what did he do with Griese, Plummer, etc.
(For the record...I liked Mike.)

He won games. Even with Griese. He won a LOT of games with Plummer.

Now if you want to add Plummer to the question... what has Shanny done without Elway, Davis or Plummer on the roster... then you might have something.

strafen
11-30-2010, 06:00 AM
Interesting theory...or was it the players around him? Did Mike win back to back SB's or was it Elway and Davis? ;D (Just thought I'd stir up some trouble on a Tuesday! ) ;DWhat kind of dumb question is that?
Fire McDaniesl!

Sassy
11-30-2010, 06:00 AM
He won games. Even with Griese. He won a LOT of games with Plummer.

Now if you want to add Plummer to the question... what has Shanny done without Elway, Davis or Plummer on the roster... then you might have something.

I'm talking playoff games...

jmz313
11-30-2010, 06:01 AM
Shanahan was a great coach for the Broncos. /end thread.

Sassy
11-30-2010, 06:01 AM
What kind of dumb question is that?
Fire McDaniesl!

Not my ? exactly...they were talking about it on the ticket this am.

Lev Vyvanse
11-30-2010, 06:05 AM
i'm talking playoff games...

2005

Meck77
11-30-2010, 06:05 AM
I lay all the blame on the "Gutless Drunk". He has his critics now but the man made bold moves to assemble those key pieces/players/personnel which evolved into a dynasty! It's not working out so well right now but hey the NFL is a high risk high reward type of business.

montrose
11-30-2010, 06:06 AM
He was the HC who ran a scheme that had the rest of the league confused, he was the major reason the Broncos won those SBs. He had good players too, some he brought in, some Bob Ferguson brought in and some Dan Reeves brought in. The fact Shanny didn't have playoff success the decade afterwards doesn't take away from his contributions in those two title years.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-30-2010, 06:16 AM
What kind of dumb question is that?
Fire McDaniesl!

Oh good. Stupid found his way to a totally non-McDaniels related thread.

Glad the mods don't do anything about this. That would be too much work.

tsiguy96
11-30-2010, 06:18 AM
He was the HC who ran a scheme that had the rest of the league confused, he was the major reason the Broncos won those SBs. He had good players too, some he brought in, some Bob Ferguson brought in and some Dan Reeves brought in. The fact Shanny didn't have playoff success the decade afterwards doesn't take away from his contributions in those two title years.

the scheme was great, but he had a team that could run it so effectively, the other team KNEW it would happen and still couldnt stop it. its not just about scheme, its about having people who can execute it.

jhns
11-30-2010, 06:24 AM
This is such a dumb question.

If Mike Shanahan was never the head coach/GM, Denver never wins a SB. Period. He brought in the majority of the starters and the team was crap before he got there. He had them go from crap to the most wins ever over a three year span. If that doesn't answer your question, I don't know what to tell you.

Jason in LA
11-30-2010, 06:26 AM
He was one of a number of key figures. Take him away and they don't win those Super Bowls. At the same time, take away Elway or Davis and they don't win. Take away the O line and they don't win. If they had injuries to certain units on the D they would have struggled.

Shanahan built a great team. Without him I don't think they build that team.

jhns
11-30-2010, 06:27 AM
Shanahan actually won a lot without Elway and Davis in Denver... and he's had five minutes with the Redskins.

Careful. Fan police will be here to ask how you could possibly question a legend in Denver.

Well, you are kind of a ****ty fan if you don't know what has happened in the most important years for this franchise. You are also a pretty ****ty fan if you talk bad about the people who made those years possible. Shanahan, Elway, TD, Bowlen, and many others are off limits to the bad talk. It is just how it works.

tsiguy96
11-30-2010, 06:29 AM
Well, you are kind of a ****ty fan if you don't know what has happened in the most important years for this franchise. You are also a pretty ****ty fan if you talk bad about the people who made those years possible. Shanahan, Elway, TD, Bowlen, and many others are off limits to the bad talk. It is just how it works.

you are stupid

jhns
11-30-2010, 06:34 AM
But what did he do with Griese, Plummer, etc.
(For the record...I liked Mike.)

He made the playoffs a lot and got to an AFCCG.

Let's make this easy. Go find a single franchise(not even just a single coach) other than the 49ers that have had more success in the 10 years after losing their HOF QB. The 9ers had success after losing a HOF QB because they already had a second HOF QB on the bench...

go_broncos
11-30-2010, 06:37 AM
after seeing our current coach, I realized how valuable Shanny is.
Without him, we would not have won SB.

jhns
11-30-2010, 06:38 AM
you are stupid

LOL

Says the guy that doesn't know basic English.

errand
11-30-2010, 06:41 AM
The idea behind it...is Shanahan with out #30 and #7 didn't win much in Denver...or right now isn't looking all that great in Washington.

mike is a very good coach, and his resume' speaks for itself. I think he gets too much credit for the wins only because if you look at those starters, alot of them were already on the roster prior to his arrival as our head . He was though, very adroit at acquiring the few missing pieces and role players we needed to get over the hump.

Having said that if just having Elway on the roster meant anything, we'd have more than two titles.


Mike can turn the Redskins around, but just like we're learning here in Denver...it takes more than a year or two to un-**** someone else's huge mess the new guy inherited.

tsiguy96
11-30-2010, 06:43 AM
LOL

Says the guy that doesn't know basic English.

i just couldnt justify writing more than that. youre man crush for shanahan is so ridiculous, i dont know why you arent a redskins fan. its ok to be a fan of a coach, not a team, just admit it.

Dagmar
11-30-2010, 06:45 AM
Sassy Sassy Sassy. Look what you've done.

jhns
11-30-2010, 06:53 AM
i just couldnt justify writing more than that. youre man crush for shanahan is so ridiculous, i dont know why you arent a redskins fan. its ok to be a fan of a coach, not a team, just admit it.

Well you just admitted to being a McDaniels fan. If you don't love Shanahan, you aren't a Broncos fan. Period.

It is funny as hell to me that so many of you think McDaniels should never be questioned as you dog the true heros of this franchise. Funny stuff. Pathetic, but funny.

Lev Vyvanse
11-30-2010, 06:56 AM
mike is a very good coach, and his resume' speaks for itself. I think he gets too much credit for the wins only because if you look at those starters, alot of them were already on the roster prior to his arrival as our head .
Terrell Davis
Howard Griffith
Ed McCaffrey
Tony E. Jones
Mark Schlereth
Neil Smith
Alfred Williams
Bill Romanowski
John Mobley
Darrien Gordon
Tyrone Braxton

tsiguy96
11-30-2010, 06:56 AM
Well you just admitted to being a McDaniels fan. If you don't love Shanahan, you aren't a Broncos fan. Period.

It is funny as hell to me that so many of you think McDaniels should never be questioned as you dog the true heros of this franchise. Funny stuff. Pathetic, but funny.

im a mcdaniels fan, and thus im not a shanahan fan? got it..

Dagmar
11-30-2010, 06:59 AM
Well you just admitted to being a McDaniels fan. If you don't love Shanahan, you aren't a Broncos fan. Period.

It is funny as hell to me that so many of you think McDaniels should never be questioned as you dog the true heros of this franchise. Funny stuff. Pathetic, but funny.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2yya59x.gif

baja
11-30-2010, 07:00 AM
I thought the uniforms were a lot prettier back then

jhns
11-30-2010, 07:04 AM
im a mcdaniels fan, and thus im not a shanahan fan? got it..

Pretty much. You aren't a fan of this franchise if you are a McDaniels fan. You aren't a fan of Shanahan if you question his contribution to this team or back those that do. Bowlen would cock slap the **** out of anyone doing this to his face.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-30-2010, 07:06 AM
Well, you are kind of a ****ty fan if you don't know what has happened in the most important years for this franchise. You are also a pretty ****ty fan if you talk bad about the people who made those years possible. Shanahan, Elway, TD, Bowlen, and many others are off limits to the bad talk. It is just how it works.

Did I say anything "bad" about those people? Nope. Did anyone? I don't think so.

REEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOH REEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOH! FAN POLICE!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-30-2010, 07:08 AM
Pretty much. You aren't a fan of this franchise if you are a McDaniels fan. You aren't a fan of Shanahan if you question his contribution to this team or back those that do. Bowlen would cock slap the **** out of anyone doing this to his face.

Don't worry, everyone! jizz is here to tell you who's a good fan and who isn't! Don't worry, his mom put him in charge of the douchebags. He's KING DOUCHEBAG! And he's allowed to be that because he's better than you, and you, and you. Don't believe me? Just ask him. He'll tell you all about how KING DOUCHEBAG is responsible for doling out fan cards.

Now step into line, everyone. Jizz has a long day of spanking it to animal porn, so he is on a tight schedule. Everyone! Line up!

jhns
11-30-2010, 07:13 AM
Don't worry, everyone! jizz is here to tell you who's a good fan and who isn't! Don't worry, his mom put him in charge of the douchebags. He's KING DOUCHEBAG! And he's allowed to be that because he's better than you, and you, and you. Don't believe me? Just ask him. He'll tell you all about how KING DOUCHEBAG is responsible for doling out fan cards.

Now step into line, everyone. Jizz has a long day of spanking it to animal porn, so he is on a tight schedule. Everyone! Line up!

Exactly. If you aren't sure about your fan status, just ask a real fan like me.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-30-2010, 07:17 AM
Exactly. If you aren't sure about your fan status, just ask a real fan like me.

Yep. Just as stupid as I thought it was originally.

jhns
11-30-2010, 07:20 AM
Yep. Just as stupid as I thought it was originally.

Most done like hearing the truth.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-30-2010, 07:21 AM
Most done like hearing the truth.

Most "done" like hearing from self-important, know-nothing retards.