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Gort
11-28-2010, 10:58 PM
"When I got here we made the playoffs the first two years and it was supposed to be a common thing," Bailey said. "And it's been downhill ever since."http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=301128007

sounds to me like he's chomping at the bit to move on to greener pastures after this season.

NFLBRONCO
11-28-2010, 11:00 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=301128007

sounds to me like he's chomping at the bit to move on to greener pastures after this season.

Champ about time you wake up

broncocalijohn
11-28-2010, 11:03 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=301128007

sounds to me like he's chomping at the bit to move on to greener pastures after this season.

His greener pastures will be the back 40 sooner than later. No, Im not saying he is done as a player but is he looking for a winner before he retires?

Gort
11-28-2010, 11:08 PM
His greener pastures will be the back 40 sooner than later. No, Im not saying he is done as a player but is he looking for a winner before he retires?

i think so. he's got enough money. he's put up the kind of numbers to get serious HOF consideration. now it's about getting a ring. there are a few legit playoff contenders that could use him if next year isn't locked out.

NFLBRONCO
11-28-2010, 11:12 PM
I love Champ as a Bronco but, I'd love him to win a ring

24champ
11-28-2010, 11:22 PM
He's obviously frustrated, and I don't blame him. As Denver has been a revolving door for Defensive Coordinators and a lot of dramatic offseasons have occured since the 2005 AFC Championship game. That will take its toll on a lot of players.

I believe Champ has one foot out the door, but he also isn't in a hurry to get out of Denver. He will be a professional about it and we will see what Denver has planned for the offseason.

Dagmar
11-28-2010, 11:28 PM
He's obviously frustrated, and I don't blame him. As Denver has been a revolving door for Defensive Coordinators and a lot of dramatic offseasons have occured since the 2005 AFC Championship game. That will take its toll on a lot of players.

I believe Champ has one foot out the door, but he also isn't in a hurry to get out of Denver. He will be a professional about it and we will see what Denver has planned for the offseason.

Champ is incredibly professional. He gave me my greatest Bronco memory, and made it last for a good few minutes when he picked off Brady.

cutthemdown
11-28-2010, 11:31 PM
I would tell champ if he signs a team friendly deal we will trade him for a fair pick to teams on a list he chooses.

No reason for him to stick around. If we could get a high 2nd round pick that would be fair IMO. Get as many picks as we can and start hitting DT, DE, Ilb until we find a couple stars.

rovolution
11-28-2010, 11:40 PM
Champ has been an incredible player for us but his time as a Bronco is done. Its time for him to go get that championship ring while he's still at his best, while we continue the rebuilding process.

I'll enjoy these last 5 games watching #24 suit up for the Broncos.

its been a pleasure.

spdirty
11-28-2010, 11:49 PM
I would tell champ if he signs a team friendly deal we will trade him for a fair pick to teams on a list he chooses.

No reason for him to stick around. If we could get a high 2nd round pick that would be fair IMO. Get as many picks as we can and start hitting DT, DE, Ilb until we find a couple stars.

Why would he do that? He doesn't owe us anything. And when has a sign and trade ever happened in the NFL before?

And why in the hell would he put his future in our hands when he doesn't have to and when we have already lied to him by pulling the new deal off the table?

TDmvp
11-29-2010, 12:09 AM
Champ is incredibly professional. He gave me my greatest Bronco memory, and made it last for a good few minutes when he picked off Brady.


dude ?? The super bowl wins ? ... how old are you Dag ?

Atwater His Ass
11-29-2010, 12:29 AM
Meh, I don't feel bad for players like Champ. It's nothing but a business and he's made his money.

broncocalijohn
11-29-2010, 12:34 AM
dude ?? The super bowl wins ? ... how old are you Dag ?

He wasnt a fan during the superbowl years. I think he was a hooligan back in Ireland in the late 90s.

cutthemdown
11-29-2010, 12:58 AM
Why would he do that? He doesn't owe us anything. And when has a sign and trade ever happened in the NFL before?

And why in the hell would he put his future in our hands when he doesn't have to and when we have already lied to him by pulling the new deal off the table?

Well in exchange for us not tagging him. No team will give a first and 3rd and we can just pay him on a one yr deal. I doubt we just let him walk. You do realize he will be tagged right? I sort of thought that was understood so I didn't put that in the post.

cutthemdown
11-29-2010, 12:59 AM
So I guess I should have said tag him and if he is willing to sign a fair deal a team may sign him. I think we could agree to take less then a first and 3rd etc etc. We do have some things we could do to try and get something for champ.

crowebomber
11-29-2010, 07:42 AM
When he first got here, he also ran a sub 4.4 40 and could lock down any receiver in the league one-on-one. Just saying.

Rascal
11-29-2010, 07:47 AM
If I was him I would move on. Wants a SB ring more than anything. Sign with a contender as we are obviously not that.

WolfpackGuy
11-29-2010, 07:49 AM
Kind of resigned for awhile to the fact he'll be gone.

bendog
11-29-2010, 07:50 AM
So I guess I should have said tag him and if he is willing to sign a fair deal a team may sign him. I think we could agree to take less then a first and 3rd etc etc. We do have some things we could do to try and get something for champ.

Bowlen didn't want to pay champ reduced saftey money, so he sure as hell isn't gonna pay him tag corner money.

HEAV
11-29-2010, 07:53 AM
When he first got here, he also ran a sub 4.4 40 and could lock down any receiver in the league one-on-one. Just saying.

Oh No You didan't!

He has lost a step and a half, he at times gets pushed around by bigger wideouts. But there are times when he makes a Bailey play and you have to say "Wow!"

TheProfessor
11-29-2010, 07:53 AM
Sounds like the talent level on this team is about to take another step backward.

Smiling Assassin27
11-29-2010, 07:53 AM
nobody will pay him tag corner money. i'd prefer to see him stay one more year in denver but am not married to him. it'd be a pity to get nothing for him, but we've got bigger issues than losing an aging corner, IMO.

Fan In Exile
11-29-2010, 08:56 AM
I'm okay with losing Champ. I haven't forgotten that he's the guy who really pushed for Slowick to be the DC. I like his talent and still think he can be part of a great D, but I don't want him complaining and forcing changes.

Hogan11
11-29-2010, 09:19 AM
Oh No You didan't!

He has lost a step and a half, he at times gets pushed around by bigger wideouts. But there are times when he makes a Bailey play and you have to say "Wow!"

Yup and just what are we seeing more of these days...that's the real question.

You couple that answer with his obivously growing frustration and he's as good as gone.

FantomForce
11-29-2010, 09:40 AM
Posted a thread about this last week. He will pull a Karl Malone and search for a ring, hope that he gets it though

Rabb
11-29-2010, 09:42 AM
I just hope he can move on and contribute to a team and win a ring...he deserves it. I damn sure wish it was here though.

Captain 'Dre
11-29-2010, 10:29 AM
His greener pastures will be the back 40 sooner than later. No, Im not saying he is done as a player but is he looking for a winner before he retires?

Under the circumstances, why wouldn't he?

Would you really expect him to spend his final productive seasons on a team that won't be championship-competitive until he's retired anyway?

Just seems like a poor fit between player and team under those circumstances.

Pontius Pirate
11-29-2010, 10:32 AM
Champ is obviously a Plummer guy.

cutthemdown
11-29-2010, 10:36 AM
Bowlen didn't want to pay champ reduced saftey money, so he sure as hell isn't gonna pay him tag corner money.

Well long term deals are a lot different then what you might do in this case.

We could tag him with the lowest tender and I doubt Bailey signs it because he wants to leave and wants more then a 1 yr deal. Then we start shopping him all the while Champ knowing he will have to come to an agreement with any team we trade him to. His agent can see who is interested and they can work out compensation with that team. Then we can agree to take a lower pick then what the tag usually gives us.

I don't see Broncos just letting him walk but maybe they will. If that is the case they erred in not trading him last offseason like I said to.