Castro again warns that global war is imminent

[mhgaffney]

Fidel Castro again warns that a war with Iran will go nuclear...

We saw in the recent election how Wall Street diverted the public's anger away from themselves -- and toward politicians in general -- especially liberal Democrats.

When the Quantitative Easing leads to economic mayhem -- count on Wall Street to do it again. In the past -- Wall Street has used wars to divert attention from themselves. They've done it time and time again.

This is why Castro's warning is so timely. If the US/Israel attack Iran's nuclear sites -- the Iranians will probably respond by launching ground attacks against US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The US will be dragged into a wider ground war -- and we will lose it -- just as we are losing in Afghanistan. This could prompt US military to resort to tactical nukes.

A big mistake -- but it could happen. If it does happen -- the conflict can quickly escalate.

Check out this recent conversation between Prof Michel Chossudovsky and Fidel. It's about time someone sounded the alarm. Remember, Fidel has seen it happen. he was at the epicenter of the Cuban missile crisis in 1962.

MHG


Conversations with Fidel Castro: The Dangers of a Nuclear War
By Fidel Castro Ruz and Michel Chossudovsky
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26830.htm

[cutthemdown]

Iran can't lauch a ground war lol. Really there is no way to send any full sized army to face the Americans or NATO. Well China, Russia could butnot Iran. I will tell you why.

1- There is no way Iran could have any type of air superiorty to protect its ground forces.

2-Because they are unprotected we would simply drop huge fuel air bombs on them scattering there troops just like we did the Taliban at the outset of the Afghan war. They are simply to big for any army on the ground to withstand.

All Iran could do is launch missiles and support terrorism. If they sent out Navy or Airforce against Nato or USA they would be utterly destroyed in a few weeks of fighting.

We are talking every jet, every ship destoryed type destruction.

Castro is a fool.

[cutthemdown]

Also Iran not yet capable of waging nuclear war so that point is moot. They don't have the warheads or the capability to deliver it accuratley.

[cutthemdown]

Iran trying to attack into Iraq would be a slaughter. No way they would ever be that stupid. All they will do if attacked is fling missiles all over the place and try to sink some ships in the gulf.

[mhgaffney]

No Cut,

You forget -- Iran is Shi'ite. There are also millions of Shi'ites in Iraq. In Baghdad alone the Shi'ite leader Muktada Sadre has more armed men at his command than the US has in the whole country. If we Attack Iran the Iraqi Shi'ites will ally with Iran and rise en masse against us. The US embassy will come under siege -- very quickly.

As Castro pointed out -- did you read the article? -- 60,000 Cuban troops defeated the well equipped S African army in Angola in the 1970s-80s. They did it by dispersing their forces. The Iranians will do the same.

The Iranians are in it for the long haul. They will fight to the last man.

The US forces in the Mideast have long supply lines -- and are badly overextended. Firepower and airpower cannot overcome this. Boots on the ground will decide it.

Iran has no nukes -- but once nukes are used -- all bets are off. As Castro points out - Russian advisers will die if we attack Iran. Will Russia do nothing? China gets a lot of oil/gas from Iran. Will they do nothing?

Because of the complacency -- the danger is actually greater now than during the Cold War.

[Garcia Bronco]

Iran would get creamed in several hours making the 7 day war look like the 100 year war.

[Mile High Shack]

I'm not even sure if Castro knows we are in the year 2010

[Garcia Bronco]

No Cut,

You forget -- Iran is Shi'ite. There are also millions of Shi'ites in Iraq.

And none of them can fight. How did it take to sack Baghdad? 2 days? 18 hours?

[mhgaffney]

You guys have not learned anything from the last 50 years. Nada.

Still arrogant and ignorant after all these years. Still got your heads up your butts.

Where is the outrage over these horrible wars?

Chew on this. The reason the US took Iraq so easily is because the Iraqis did NOT fight. Most of them had no allegiance to Saddam Hussein. The Iraqis bided their time.

But things have changed greatly since 2003.

I suppose it's true that no Empire in history has ever unilaterally packed up its weapons and gone home. No, they always have to get their asses whipped first.

How many US warships will have to be sunk before enough is enough? How many US sailors and US troops will fertilize Asia with their blood?

The Mujahedeen defeated the Soviets after we supplied them with hand-held Stinger missiles. The Soviet gunships and Migs fell out of the sky like stones.

If we attack Iran -- what's to stop China or Russia from supplying the Iraqi Shi'ites and Afghanis and Iranians with the same? They will make it impossible to bring in supplies to Baghdad and Kabul.

It will be another Dien Bien Phu. Except, this time the besieged will have US dog tags -- not French.

We will be lucky to bring any of them back home.

In the 1850s the Brits sent an Army to conquer Afghanistan. One soldier made it back alive.

[theAPAOps5]

Does Castro talk to that Russian General who predicted that Iran and the US would go to war, but never did happen?

[mhgaffney]

If some bully nation imposed severe economic sanctions on the US -- and also refused face to face diplomacy with us after we offered major concessions -- and even promoted terrorism inside the US by aiding and abetting extremist elements -- would you consider that we would be at war with that bully nation?

Of course.

This is exactly the situation with Iran -- except that we are the bully. In this sense the US is already at war with Iran. We have been for years.

How come you guys don't know it? Answer: Because FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN pump your heads full of half truths and outright lies, while demonizing Iran.

Get a clue. You have been dumbed down for years.

[broncocalijohn]

Does Castro talk to that Russian General who predicted that Iran and the US would go to war, but never did happen?

no, he talks to McGoof who told us a few months ago that we would be attacking Iran when they loaded their nuclear rods.

[mhgaffney]

Iran WAS attacked.

As reported in the world media, the Bushehr plant -- and much of Iran's industrial infrastructure -- was crippled by a cyber virus. Experts stated that the attack was too sophisticated to have been staged by a lone hacker. In fact, only a few states on the planet could have done it, including the US and Israel. Most experts believed that the latter was behind it..

The cyber attack was an act of war. If someone did that to us -- we'd start bombing them within 24 hours.

From his post -- Broncocalijohn still doesn't have a clue.

[Rohirrim]

Iran WAS attacked.

As reported in the world media, the Bushehr plant -- and much of Iran's industrial infrastructure -- was crippled by a cyber virus. Experts stated that the attack was too sophisticated to have been staged by a lone hacker. In fact, only a few states on the planet could have done it, including the US and Israel. Most experts believed that the latter was behind it..

The cyber attack was an act of war. If someone did that to us -- we'd start bombing them within 24 hours.

From his post -- Broncocalijohn still doesn't have a clue.

They should switch to Apples. ;D

[cutthemdown]

I'm not saying Iran wouldn't try something stupid, I am saying they wouldn't succeed. They are only powerful enough at this point to foment terrorism. They don't have what it takes to launch a ground war into Iraq. They may be able to stir up a civil war between the Shia and the Sunni but no way could they defeat the American military.

They haven't even proved they can sink a ship yet. There tests of there anti ship missiles are sketchy at best.

[cutthemdown]

Iran WAS attacked.

As reported in the world media, the Bushehr plant -- and much of Iran's industrial infrastructure -- was crippled by a cyber virus. Experts stated that the attack was too sophisticated to have been staged by a lone hacker. In fact, only a few states on the planet could have done it, including the US and Israel. Most experts believed that the latter was behind it..

The cyber attack was an act of war. If someone did that to us -- we'd start bombing them within 24 hours.

From his post -- Broncocalijohn still doesn't have a clue.

Not true we have cyber attacks every day. And I hope we did do it. I hope we do stop them. Iran having a nuke is a nightmare.

[cutthemdown]

The thing is any big attack by Iran would get Saudis and Egypt involved because Iran scares the **** out of them.

[cutthemdown]

You don't think we give tons of weapons to the Saudis so they can sit it out if a huge mideast war breaks out do you gaff?

[orinjkrush]

reading WWIII tea leaves is notoriously difficult. at least since Nostradamus.

however, one well placed EMP Nuke would do much to level the playing field.

or some weaponized smallpox.

[broncocalijohn]

Cutemdown, only Mock (In memory) is allowed to post one thought per post and not combine them all in one. Try it. Edit button works wonders.

[mhgaffney]

The US intelligence agencies agreed two years ago that Iran gave up its nuclear weapons program in 2003. That assessment remains current. There has been no new evidence to the contrary.

Besides -- Iran is no threat to anyone -- outside of Iran. The big threat to regional and world peace comes from the US and Israel.

So where is the outrage about Israeli WMD? They have nukes, as well as chemical and biological weapons.

You guys need to turn off FOX and CNN and start reading and thinking.

Cyber war = war. You can't absolve the US and Israel for it -- then turn around and blame someone else. Total hypocrisy. But this appears to the the norm around here.

As for Iran trying something stupid -- anything can happen. But where's the criticism of the Bush-Cheney led invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq -- which has now spread to Yemen and Pakistan?

It was based on lies. You can't build a foreign policy on lies. It's why we are the laughing stock -- hated world wide.

Three Star Gen Odum called it "the greatest strategic blunder in US history." This was in 2005. Odum called for the immediate withdrawal of US troops from the region -- before it gets even worse. He said "Yes it's time to cut and run..."

The sad truth is we in the US have had no leadership in the White House worth of the name for close to 50 years. To say we are poorly led would be too generous.

Time to man up and speak the unpalatable truth.

[chadta]

Besides -- Iran is no threat to anyone -- outside of Iran. The big threat to regional and world peace comes from the US and Israel.

So where is the outrage about Israeli WMD? They have nukes, as well as chemical and biological weapons.


really ? iran calls for a country to be wiped off the face of the earth, but they arent a threat ?

im frankly pretty sick of the whole world pandering to Israels every wish and demand, but they do have a right to defend themselves, and as long as a close neighbor wants them obliterated id say they dont have enough weapons, because if they dont have the weapons to defend themselves guess who has to do it ?

[mhgaffney]

really ? iran calls for a country to be wiped off the face of the earth, but they arent a threat ?

im frankly pretty sick of the whole world pandering to Israels every wish and demand, but they do have a right to defend themselves, and as long as a close neighbor wants them obliterated id say they dont have enough weapons, because if they dont have the weapons to defend themselves guess who has to do it ?

No. Ahmadinejad was repeating earlier statements by Khomeini -- who called for regime change in Israel.

However -- by the time the pro Zionist media was done mistranslating and distorting what Ahmedinejah said -- it came out sounding like he called for the extermination of the Jews. Not so.

It was another big fib - and you (and a lot of others) swallowed it.

Regime change in Israel would be a good thing -- in fact the only way if you give a hoot about peace.

Here is a good analysis on this issue:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

[chadta]

called for regime change in Israel.

so its ok for iran to call for regime change, a regime that was elected, but its wrong for the us and the willing to change the regime in iraq ? gotcha

[mhgaffney]

You don't see that shock and awe, followed by our full scale military invasion of Iraq -- went over the top when it comes to calling for regime change?

Surely you see this.

[cutthemdown]

Cutemdown, only Mock (In memory) is allowed to post one thought per post and not combine them all in one. Try it. Edit button works wonders.

I don't follow rules.

[cutthemdown]

and you're a puss..........

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

No Cut,

You forget -- Iran is Shi'ite. There are also millions of Shi'ites in Iraq. In Baghdad alone the Shi'ite leader Muktada Sadre has more armed men at his command than the US has in the whole country. If we Attack Iran the Iraqi Shi'ites will ally with Iran and rise en masse against us. The US embassy will come under siege -- very quickly.

As Castro pointed out -- did you read the article? -- 60,000 Cuban troops defeated the well equipped S African army in Angola in the 1970s-80s. They did it by dispersing their forces. The Iranians will do the same.

The Iranians are in it for the long haul. They will fight to the last man.

The US forces in the Mideast have long supply lines -- and are badly overextended. Firepower and airpower cannot overcome this. Boots on the ground will decide it.

Iran has no nukes -- but once nukes are used -- all bets are off. As Castro points out - Russian advisers will die if we attack Iran. Will Russia do nothing? China gets a lot of oil/gas from Iran. Will they do nothing?

Because of the complacency -- the danger is actually greater now than during the Cold War.

WAY too many facts and WAY too much logic here for the average ditto monkey.

Can you condense all this into a ten second sound bite that Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin could handle reading? ;)

[chadta]

You don't see that shock and awe, followed by our full scale military invasion of Iraq -- went over the top when it comes to calling for regime change?

Surely you see this.

so its ok to remove a democratically elected government, but its not ok to remove a brutal dictator.

man am i glad i dont live in this liberal bliss you call reality

[orinjkrush]

should we have done a Noriega heist? A Castro poisoned cigar? A Saigon helicopter evac? or just had the Supreme Court declare a new winner?

how best for regime change?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

should we have done a Noriega heist? A Castro poisoned cigar? A Saigon helicopter evac? or just had the Supreme Court declare a new winner?

how best for regime change?

One thing's for sure:

The kind of people who supported the Castro poisoned cigar have learned absolutely nothing from their mistakes.

[cutthemdown]

WAY too many facts and WAY too much logic here for the average ditto monkey.

Can you condense all this into a ten second sound bite that Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin could handle reading? ;)

Or maybe just a cartoon? What a joke coming from the man who uses cartoons to try and express himself.

[cutthemdown]

Very few of the Shia in Iraq qould be willing to fight for Iran. Give me a break. You all run around trying to act like Castro has anything to say on this is a joke. He is always trying to make people afraid because otherwise there is no reason for him people to continue to support his communism. Cuba is broke, totally falling apart and unless tghe USA is big bad and scary there is no reason for it. They been sitting there for last 50 yrs living in squalor all so there leader could stand up to the USA? Yeah that was smart.

[Rohirrim]

The Iranians have made so many political inroads in Iraq, and are already exercising so much influence, they have no intention, or need, to start war in that region. In fact, regarding Bush's idiotic and senseless incursion into Iraq, the biggest winner might turn out to be Iran. Bush took one of Iran's biggest enemies and turned them into an Iranian satellite state. Brilliant! :rofl:

[mhgaffney]

so its ok to remove a democratically elected government, but its not ok to remove a brutal dictator.

man am i glad i dont live in this liberal bliss you call reality

Today it is a stretch to call Israel a democracy. For the same reasons that S Africa under Apartheid was not a democracy.

One of the major functions of democratic rule is to protect minorities. There was no protection for blacks under S African Apartheid. Similarly, Israel's Arabs are third class citizens. And the Palestinians under W Bank occupation have no rights in their own homeland.

Besides, democracy cannot insure that tyrants never rule. They often do. At least two of Israel's presidents were out and out terrorists. Menachem Begin and Yitzak Shamir were both wanted men - until the time of the 6 day war.

Regime change in Israel is a prerequisite to any kind of regional peace settlement. Unfortunately, the Israeli government has so brainwashed the people of Israel -- with fear and xenophobia -- that the chance for democratic regime change seems remote.

BTW, I am not a liberal.

[JJJ]

Someone is actually quoting Castro. The last man taken in the 7th round, Mr. Irrelevant Fidel Castro. Freaking hilarious.

[mhgaffney]

How is Castro irrelevant?

He has out lived every other world leader since 1960.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

How is Castro irrelevant?
He has out lived every other world leader since 1960.Try using logic and common sense to evaluate that statement and report back.

[mhgaffney]

Try reading Castro's article and report back. Slug.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Try reading Castro's article and report back. Slug.Once again, what he reportedly states is meaningless at this point in his life. The only people who listen to him now-a-days are ...............

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Or maybe just a cartoon? What a joke coming from the man who uses cartoons to try and express himself.

Translation: "Political satire at the right's expense makes me see red."

[orinjkrush]

The Iranians have made so many political inroads in Iraq, and are already exercising so much influence, they have no intention, or need, to start war in that region. In fact, regarding Bush's idiotic and senseless incursion into Iraq, the biggest winner might turn out to be Iran. Bush took one of Iran's biggest enemies and turned them into an Iranian satellite state. Brilliant! :rofl:

i actually sorta like the poetic justice here. Saudis started this whole mess, and the Saudi "royal" family may be the biggest losers from the Shia riff-raff.

[JJJ]

How is Castro irrelevant?

He has out lived every other world leader since 1960.

Only by dictatorial rule and keeping his people mired in squalor and destitution. It must a really good life to be a dictator because they all seem to live pretty long lives.

He has provided such a great recipe for hope for the future hasn't he?

Yeah he is real relevant.