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Rulon Velvet Jones
11-15-2010, 12:23 PM
I'll see if the video ends up online, but Merril Hoge on "Outside the Lines" just went on one of the more idiotic rants since the showdown at the end of Billy Madison. He went full-on Palin and didn't even answer the question that was asked (about why Haley didn't shake hands). Instead, he decided to go off on Denver's record last year (including their "5-0 start"), how Tebow needs to be able to make plays in the other 95 yards on the field and how Kyle Orton is the only "difference maker" on that entire team. Did anyone else catch this? It was amazing how moronic it was.

BroncoSojia
11-15-2010, 12:27 PM
I'll see if the video ends up online, but Merril Hoge on "Outside the Lines" just went on one of the more idiotic rants since the showdown at the end of Billy Madison. He went full-on Palin and didn't even answer the question that was asked (about why Haley didn't shake hands). Instead, he decided to go off on Denver's record last year (including their "5-0 start"), how Tebow needs to be able to make plays in the other 95 yards on the field and how Kyle Orton is the only "difference maker" on that entire team. Did anyone else catch this? It was amazing how moronic it was.

That's rich, since he spent most of last season bashing Kyle when talking about the Broncos.

TDmvp
11-15-2010, 12:28 PM
Merril Hoge can suck a bag of d!cks.

If he comes on the screen I just change the channel.

Mile High Shack
11-15-2010, 12:30 PM
I'm not sure Hoge knows where he is at to be honest due to all of his concussions, so I'll throw him a pass

Rabb
11-15-2010, 12:32 PM
is it me or are his tie knots abnormally huge?

TonyR
11-15-2010, 12:33 PM
He went full-on Palin...

Well, she won't even speak to media outside of Fox News so give the guy a little more credit. But seriously, that's a moronic take from Hoge. I guess Lloyd, Moreno, and Gaff, among others, didn't make any plays yesterday?

Pick Six
11-15-2010, 12:33 PM
I guess Kyle Orton was throwing to himself. Nobody else made an impact in that game...LOLLOLLOL

Kaylore
11-15-2010, 12:37 PM
Hoge picks us to lose every game. He did last year and he has this year as well. He's a hater.

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-15-2010, 12:37 PM
Doesn't he kinda contradict himself when he says that Tebow is effective inside the 5 yet can't be considered a difference maker? If the kid can come in and almost guarantee a TD damn near every time they're within that distance, I'll certainly take it if anyone wants to call it a gimmick or not.

Rohirrim
11-15-2010, 12:38 PM
Hoge was a putz when he was playing, and he's still a putz.

Steve Sewell
11-15-2010, 12:40 PM
Hoge picks us to lose every game. He did last year and he has this year as well. He's a hater.

Someone needs to ask him to show them on the dolly where Pat Bowlen/Dan Reeves touched him. He has always had a major hard-on for hating the Broncos.

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
11-15-2010, 12:42 PM
I'll see if the video ends up online, but Merril Hoge on "Outside the Lines" just went on one of the more idiotic rants since the showdown at the end of Billy Madison. He went full-on Palin and didn't even answer the question that was asked (about why Haley didn't shake hands). Instead, he decided to go off on Denver's record last year (including their "5-0 start"), how Tebow needs to be able to make plays in the other 95 yards on the field and how Kyle Orton is the only "difference maker" on that entire team. Did anyone else catch this? It was amazing how moronic it was.

Hoge is a Broncos hater. He played for the Seahawks and the Steelers and rarely fails to show his true colors. He's as bad as Rod Woodson.

Gort
11-15-2010, 12:45 PM
He went full-on Palin

f*ck off back to MSNBC asshole.

i'd take Palin any day over Obama the fraud, Pelosi the bitch, Reid the racist, or Biden the pathological liar.

Rabb
11-15-2010, 12:48 PM
**** off back to MSNBC a-hole.

i'd take Palin any day over Obama the fraud, Pelosi the b****, Reid the racist, or Biden the pathological liar.

Jesus Christ man, take your meds

how can anyone be pissy after dominating the Chiefs?

Rohirrim
11-15-2010, 12:48 PM
**** off back to MSNBC a-hole.

i'd take Palin any day over Obama the fraud, Pelosi the b****, Reid the racist, or Biden the pathological liar.

The Sarah love is strong with this one. :kiss:

Dr. Broncenstein
11-15-2010, 12:49 PM
Tebow is 100% redzone touchdowns. Before Tebow not so much. By my math that is a difference made. I'm no math wizard or anything, but just shooting from the hip it seems about right.

Gort
11-15-2010, 12:51 PM
Jesus Christ man, take your meds

how can anyone be pissy after dominating the Chiefs?

i'm pissy because i usually avoid the WPR forum so i don't have to see left wing moonbattery in action.

for the OP to bring in a Palin smear is over the line and he needed to be called out on it.

i could smear Obama in EVERY single one of my posts if i wanted to. there is plenty of actual factual ammo out there to use. but i don't. because this forum is supposed to be about football.

the OP wins the douchebag of the day award.

Mile High Shack
11-15-2010, 12:52 PM
i'm pissy because i usually avoid the WPR forum so i don't have to see left wing moonbattery in action.

for the OP to bring in a Palin smear is over the line and he needed to be called out on it.

i could smear Obama in EVERY single one of my posts if i wanted to. there is plenty of actual factual ammo out there to use. but i don't. because this forum is supposed to be about football.

the OP wins the douchebag of the day award.

how's that posty, talky thing goin' for ya

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-15-2010, 12:53 PM
i'm pissy because i usually avoid the WPR forum so i don't have to see left wing moonbattery in action.

for the OP to bring in a Palin smear is over the line and he needed to be called out on it.

i could smear Obama in EVERY single one of my posts if i wanted to. there is plenty of actual factual ammo out there to use. but i don't. because this forum is supposed to be about football.

the OP wins the douchebag of the day award.

Wah.

Gort
11-15-2010, 12:54 PM
Wah.

go get your shinebox.

Old Dude
11-15-2010, 12:55 PM
Well, Hoge is right of course.

Take away Orton, his 300 passing yards and the 4TDs, and the Broncos would probably have lost yesterday.

BroncoSojia
11-15-2010, 12:58 PM
Heh well he gave Orton his props on NFL Live.

Calling him the most improved player in the league this year.

TailgateNut
11-15-2010, 01:02 PM
**** off back to MSNBC a-hole.

i'd take Palin any day over Obama the fraud, Pelosi the b****, Reid the racist, or Biden the pathological liar.


Me too, if she was wearing knee pads and her head was bobbin'.:~ohyah!:

Otherwise she's as useless as tits on a boar hog.

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-15-2010, 01:03 PM
go get your shinebox.

Dude, what's your ****ing problem? Why are you so damned hyper-sensitive about this? Quoting Goodfellas like some wannabe badass. Whatever, man. Maybe I'm wrong, but she's no Einstein. That's not a mystery to anyone.

Rohirrim
11-15-2010, 01:07 PM
Me too, if she was wearing knee pads and her head was bobbin'.:~ohyah!:

Otherwise she's as useless as boobies on a boar hog.

She's kind of cute when she does that fancy pageant walking.

Pseudofool
11-15-2010, 01:12 PM
i'm pissy because i usually avoid the WPR forum so i don't have to see left wing moonbattery in action.

for the OP to bring in a Palin smear is over the line and he needed to be called out on it.

i could smear Obama in EVERY single one of my posts if i wanted to. there is plenty of actual factual ammo out there to use. but i don't. because this forum is supposed to be about football.

the OP wins the douchebag of the day award.
Whether you like it or not, Palin has become a symbol for stupidity even outside of politics (due to not only her own incompetence, but to SNL and the comical elements of her mistakes.)

Popps
11-15-2010, 01:15 PM
We have the league sack leader from last season on the shelf.

I wonder if he would be a difference-maker?


We need more parts to complete this system. That will be the difference-maker. No ONE player is going to make this team.

Pick Six
11-15-2010, 01:18 PM
The statement only gets funnier, when Hoge realizes that he was NEVER a "difference maker" in his entire career...ROFL!

NYBronco
11-15-2010, 01:20 PM
I guess Kyle Orton was throwing to himself. Nobody else made an impact in that game...LOLLOLLOL

Not to mention Orton throwing blocks for his own pass protection.

Hoge dislike for the Broncos goes back when he was with the steelers and the Broncos beat his team on their way to the playoffs.

TailgateNut
11-15-2010, 01:30 PM
Whether you like it or not, Palin has become a symbol for stupidity even outside of politics (due to not only her own incompetence, but to SNL and the comical elements of her mistakes.)


It IS pretty damn funny that Tina Fey has more intelligence locked in her big toe than Sarah has in her noggin.

enjolras
11-15-2010, 01:31 PM
Doesn't he kinda contradict himself when he says that Tebow is effective inside the 5 yet can't be considered a difference maker? If the kid can come in and almost guarantee a TD damn near every time they're within that distance, I'll certainly take it if anyone wants to call it a gimmick or not.

32 NFL head coaches would be thrilled to have that specialist on the roster.

baja
11-15-2010, 01:34 PM
She's kind of cute when she does that fancy pageant walking.

Your talking about the next President of the United States of America there bub. ;D

Smiling Assassin27
11-15-2010, 01:35 PM
I resent that, Hogey. Jarvis Moss was a difference maker in London. And what the hell do you call Knowshon on that flea flicker TD called back in London? I call him a difference maker, man.

Popps
11-15-2010, 01:40 PM
The Vikings had Favre, Moss and Peterson... along with one of the best pass-rushers in the league on defense.

Yet, they suck on ice.

It's not solely about "difference-makers."

You've got to have a foundation in place. Hopefully that's what we're building.

extralife
11-15-2010, 01:44 PM
We're 3-6. If people want to talk ****, they've got plenty of ammo.

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:03 PM
It IS pretty damn funny that Tina Fey has more intelligence locked in her big toe than Sarah has in her noggin.

Lenin had a term for you dumb liberals.

he called you "useful idiots".

Palin is a lot brighter than Tina Fey. in fact, you know it to be true. you fear her. that's why the past 2 years has been continuous smears and slurs against her. i for one am sick of it.

Bill Clinton was a rapist. that didn't bother any of you.
Obama is a complete fraud with about 1 paragraph worth of accomplishments on his resume. that doesn't bother any of you.
Pelosi demands that the air force provide USAF planes for herself and her family for personal travel. again, you libtards don't have a single qualm.
Soros helped loot his fellow jews during the Holocaust. he gets a pass so long as he keeps donating to your candidates.

but heaven forbid Sarah Palin decide not to abort her child who is afflicted with Downs Syndrome. oh noes! she must be destroyed!!

i'm just fed up with dumb, dishonest liberals. keep it in the WPR forum or i'll call you out on your stupidity every time i see it on these Broncos threads.

rbackfactory80
11-15-2010, 02:04 PM
I missed that but I did hear Hodge speak about the "factor-back" in Cleveland and sarcastically said Denver had real good talent evaluators.

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:07 PM
Your talking about the next President of the United States of America there bub. ;D

i don't even want her as president. i'm just sick of the leftwing smears. she's a decent person. it's one thing to disagree with her political beliefs. it's quite another to attack her and her family with despicable personal slurs. but that's what the leftwing does. that's what Alinksy taught. identify... isolate... destroy. people who embrace that are pieces of **** in my eyes.

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-15-2010, 02:07 PM
i'm just fed up with dumb, dishonest liberals. keep it in the WPR forum or i'll call you out on your stupidity every time i see it on these Broncos threads.

You and Zach should band together and police everything on the Internet together. OR - you could find a better use of your energy and free time than monitoring this sort of bull****.

Palin is still an idiot.

Rabb
11-15-2010, 02:08 PM
come on guys, can we leave politics out of this?

seriously

Kaylore
11-15-2010, 02:10 PM
come on guys, can we leave politics out of this?

seriously

Vote for "The Rent is Too Damn High" party!!!

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-15-2010, 02:11 PM
come on guys, can we leave politics out of this?

seriously

Ask the mouthbreather that honed in on a single word in an entire post, missing the initial point entirely.

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:13 PM
You and Zach should band together and police everything on the Internet together. OR - you could find a better use of your energy and free time than monitoring this sort of bull****.

Palin is still an idiot.

and you're still compensating for having a small dick by acting like a big dick. Tina Fey says so, so it must be true, huh?

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:14 PM
Ask the mouthbreather that honed in on a single word in an entire post, missing the initial point entirely.

then leave out the ad hominem attacks where they don't belong. is that so hard to understand. if you want to be taken seriously, then keep that WPR BS out of the Broncos forum.

BroncoInferno
11-15-2010, 02:15 PM
and you're still compensating for having a small dick by acting like a big dick. Tina Fey says so, so it must be true, huh?

Even most conservatives acknowledge that Palin is an imbecile. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fringe nutjob.

rbackfactory80
11-15-2010, 02:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:17 PM
now back to Hoge.

what difference maker does NE have other than their QB? that doesn't seem to stop them from excelling.

TailgateNut
11-15-2010, 02:18 PM
Even most conservatives acknowledge that Palin is an imbecile. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fringe nutjob.


....except those red state morons who have a lower IQ than the prairee dog pancake I just created.

BroncoInferno
11-15-2010, 02:18 PM
then leave out the ad hominem attacks where they don't belong. is that so hard to understand. if you want to be taken seriously, then keep that WPR BS out of the Broncos forum.

Actually, no one else bitched but you. You are embarassing yourself. It was a legit comment given that only fringe right wingers (like you, apparently) don't acknowledge that Palin is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Most conservatives even agree with that (accept, again, those the fringe)

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:21 PM
Even most conservatives acknowledge that Palin is an imbecile. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fringe nutjob.

nonsense.

all intelligent people acknowledge that Obama is a mildly retarded. he can't speak in public without the help of a teleprompter. he has an attention span of about 5 minutes. he's not interested in details and has no particular understanding of foreign policy, simple economics, or even US history. all he cares about is golf and taking extravagant vacations at the taxpayers expense.

anyone who thinks otherwise is a booger eater.

see what i did there?

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:23 PM
Actually, no one else b****ed but you. You are embarassing yourself. It was a legit comment given that only fringe right wingers (like you, apparently) don't acknowledge that Palin is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Most conservatives even agree with that (accept, again, those the fringe)

whatever. i guess your bigotry keeps you warm at night. everyone who disagrees with you must be dumb, crazy, a nazi, or all of the above, huh?

you are a lousy human being.

bendog
11-15-2010, 02:25 PM
Lloyd Gaffney DThomas and Royal seem to be difference makers. I'm really astounded by how good lloyd has played. The run game has been abysmal, till yesterday, but the oline's been in tatters. Get a decent oline an guys like Green-Ellis can get it done.

Den lacks "difference makers" (I'd call them playmakers) on defense. In 2008 they had doom, dj and champ. It may be that the team has the personnel to have more than that now given some time in Ayers Doom Cox and dj.

If Hoge was saying that Den needs some guys who can turn momentum with individual plays to be a playoff type team, I'd agree. But it may be moving in that direction.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-15-2010, 02:25 PM
nonsense.

all intelligent people acknowledge that Obama is a mildly retarded. he can't speak in public without the help of a teleprompter. he has an attention span of about 5 minutes. he's not interested in details and has no particular understanding of foreign policy, simple economics, or even US history. all he cares about is golf and taking extravagant vacations at the taxpayers expense.

anyone who thinks otherwise is a booger eater.

see what i did there?

I expect nothing less from a Randist (who was nothing short of a cult leader....and thanks for producing Alan Greenspan, that worked out well).

You dont have to like Obama (i have my issues with him), but this rhetoric about him killing our country is absurd and to claim the man isnt thoughtful and smart? Wow, thats a reach. Sarah Palin has proven to be interested in celebrity, not politics. She's full of useless venom that does more harm and good. If you want to rally around a "tea partier" might as well pick one that has some ideas and half a brain.

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:25 PM
....except those red state morons who have a lower IQ than the prairee dog pancake I just created.

ohhh. the infamous "internet IQ battle". well played. /not.

Rohirrim
11-15-2010, 02:28 PM
Even most conservatives acknowledge that Palin is an imbecile. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fringe nutjob.

Not true. She got a college degree.


Took her seven colleges to do it, but she did it.


I think she got a BS in Weather Girl.

Mile High Shack
11-15-2010, 02:30 PM
http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/this-thread-sucks/12/threadlikewheregoing753cz2.jpg

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:32 PM
I expect nothing less from a Randist (who was nothing short of a cult leader....and thanks for producing Alan Greenspan, that worked out well).

You dont have to like Obama (i have my issues with him), but this rhetoric about him killing our country is absurd and to claim the man isnt thoughtful and smart? Wow, thats a reach. Sarah Palin has proven to be interested in celebrity, not politics. She's full of useless venom that does more harm and good. If you want to rally around a "tea partier" might as well pick one that has some ideas and half a brain.

i'm not a Randian.

i just find Atlas Shrugged to be a good read and it applies to what's happening in today's world.

produce one authentic quote from Sarah Palin of this so-called "venom"?

just because you say something to be true doesn't mean it is.

there is lots of evidence that Obama's academic accomplishments have been inflated. there's also anecdotal evidence that his first book was ghost written for him. when he speaks off the cuff, he stutters and is unable to piece together coherent sentences.

he's not smart. certainly not the "genius" that so many on the left gave him credit for being. of course, admitting that is impossible for an Obama voter because it means they were duped.

do you have to be very smart to be a good president? no. would every very smart person be a good president? no.

just don't inflate his credentials while simultaneously deflate the credentials of your opponents. Palin is not a moron. Obama is not a genius.

debate their policies and beliefs. i'm prepared to do that. i don't like Obama because i know who he is and what he truly believes. that doesn't mean he can't be charismatic and affable.

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:33 PM
Uhh...

Anyway...Hoge is entitled to his opinion. Does not make him right.


:Broncos:

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-15-2010, 02:33 PM
My thread wins!

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-15-2010, 02:34 PM
Show us the birth certificate!

Gort
11-15-2010, 02:35 PM
....except those red state morons who have a lower IQ than the prairee dog pancake I just created.

wow. so now you resort to neg repping people you don't agree with.

Need a tissue? Whiney ass bastard can't take a joke? Typical uptight republican who hasn't been laid for decades.

well, whatever. i don't care about rep. i don't even give neg rep except when in response to somebody giving me neg rep.

incoming

Rohirrim
11-15-2010, 02:35 PM
You betcha!

cmhargrove
11-15-2010, 02:37 PM
I bet he would say someone like CJ Spiller was a "difference maker" with 1 TD on the season (and one lost fumble).

Interestingly, Tebow may seem like a gadget guy to some, but he makes it happen in the red zone. 4 TD's and counting...

SonOfLe-loLang
11-15-2010, 02:37 PM
i'm not a Randian.

i just find Atlas Shrugged to be a good read and it applies to what's happening in today's world.

produce one authentic quote from Sarah Palin of this so-called "venom"?

just because you say something to be true doesn't mean it is.

there is lots of evidence that Obama's academic accomplishments have been inflated. there's also anecdotal evidence that his first book was ghost written for him. when he speaks off the cuff, he stutters and is unable to piece together coherent sentences.

he's not smart. certainly not the "genius" that so many on the left gave him credit for being. of course, admitting that is impossible for an Obama voter because it means they were duped.

do you have to be very smart to be a good president? no. would every very smart person be a good president? no.

just don't inflate his credentials while simultaneously deflate the credentials of your opponents. Palin is not a moron. Obama is not a genius.

debate their policies and beliefs. i'm prepared to do that. i don't like Obama because i know who he is and what he truly believes. that doesn't mean he can't be charismatic and affable.

I'm not inflating anything, but to suggest the man isnt smart, thoughtful, and cant speak? C'mon, youre being a republican homer. I voted for Obama, though i lean way left of any democrat (perhaps other than Bernie Sanders), but ive been disappointed with lots of things about his administration, though i dont think he's killing the country either. I'd still obviously much prefer him to McCain, Palin, Huckabee, or any of these other clowns.

Also, Palin isn't venomous? OK, im sure i can find several examples, but here's the latest. In pennsylvania recently, schools were making suggestions on healthier lunches, breakfasts...etc. So what did palin do? She brought sugar cookies to the school because, god damn, the government shouldnt tell us what to do.

She's poison. I wish she'd stay out of the spotlight.

Rohirrim
11-15-2010, 02:38 PM
I'll bet Hoge can't see Russia from his house.

Br0nc0Buster
11-15-2010, 02:41 PM
I guess that means Moreno isnt a "factor back"

this is the same guy who admitted he has woken up before and had no idea where he was; with his extensive list of concussions I doubt anyone is gonna confuse him with a MENSA member

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:43 PM
Also, Palin isn't venomous? OK, im sure i can find several examples, but here's the latest. In pennsylvania recently, schools were making suggestions on healthier lunches, breakfasts...etc. So what did palin do? She brought sugar cookies to the school because, god damn, the government shouldnt tell us what to do.


ZOMG she brought COOKIES! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...

And much like Palin I take offense when a state or federal entity decide for me or my family what is best for them, especially in regards to what they eat. Frankly its not the government's ****ing job to babysit my eating habits.

And its not "suggestions" when a kid gets suspended from school because she has a jolly rancher. Not a bag of jolly ranchers, just a single jolly rancher because the candy had been deemed "unhealthy"...


:Broncos:

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:45 PM
I'll bet Hoge can't see Russia from his house.


This would be funny if Palin actually said it.

And you can see Russia from Alaskan Islands. But I suppose Palin would be VP if she had said something along the lines of the US and its 57 states like our dear leader.

:Broncos:

extralife
11-15-2010, 02:45 PM
is this really happening

Zoobie
11-15-2010, 02:46 PM
Lenin had a term for you dumb liberals.

he called you "useful idiots".

Palin is a lot brighter than Tina Fey. in fact, you know it to be true. you fear her. that's why the past 2 years has been continuous smears and slurs against her. i for one am sick of it.

Bill Clinton was a rapist. that didn't bother any of you.
Obama is a complete fraud with about 1 paragraph worth of accomplishments on his resume. that doesn't bother any of you.
Pelosi demands that the air force provide USAF planes for herself and her family for personal travel. again, you libtards don't have a single qualm.
Soros helped loot his fellow jews during the Holocaust. he gets a pass so long as he keeps donating to your candidates.

but heaven forbid Sarah Palin decide not to abort her child who is afflicted with Downs Syndrome. oh noes! she must be destroyed!!

i'm just fed up with dumb, dishonest liberals. keep it in the WPR forum or i'll call you out on your stupidity every time i see it on these Broncos threads.

Time the F out. Bill gets some late night mouth hug and all of a sudden he's a rapist? I now officially don't like you.

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:46 PM
is this really happening


Yes.

I tried to refrain from making comments myself...but slander because you dont like someone's politics just pisses me off.


:Broncos:

SonOfLe-loLang
11-15-2010, 02:46 PM
ZOMG she brought COOKIES! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...

And much like Palin I take offense when a state or federal entity decide for me or my family what is best for them, especially in regards to what they eat. Frankly its not the government's ****ing job to babysit my eating habits.

And its not "suggestions" when a kid gets suspended from school because she has a jolly rancher. Not a bag of jolly ranchers, just a single jolly rancher because the candy had been deemed "unhealthy"...


:Broncos:

Have you seen school lunches? They are horrible! They should control what they put in schools and encourage healthy eating. She's not doing it because she gives a ****, shes doing it to be a contrarian. The government could come out in support of Sunny days and she'd lobby against those too.

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:47 PM
Time the F out. Bill gets some late night mouth hug and all of a sudden he's a rapist? I now officially don't like you.


Well...there was several women who claimed he forced himself on them.

Maybe not rape, but rape's slightly fat younger brother sexual assault.

Potato, Potatoe.

:Broncos:

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-15-2010, 02:48 PM
Aaaaaaaanyway, I'll have to see if I can find the video soon enough. It's even more ridiculous when you see it. It was on today's Outside the Lines if you happen to catch it on a repeat.

Inkana7
11-15-2010, 02:49 PM
Hoge is almost as stupid as Sarah Pailin.

Who is stupid.

Very, very stupid.

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:49 PM
Have you seen school lunches? They are horrible! They should control what they put in schools and encourage healthy eating. She's not doing it because she gives a ****, shes doing it to be a contrarian. The government could come out in support of Sunny days and she'd lobby against those too.


So a school does not have to teach math, science or history; but by Heaven they better teach the benefits of a balanced diet...

What the **** happened to health class?

:Broncos:

Rohirrim
11-15-2010, 02:49 PM
Yes.

I tried to refrain from making comments myself...but slander because you dont like someone's politics just pisses me off.


:Broncos:

And yet Palin's entire political career has been based on slandering people. Go figure. ???

Rohirrim
11-15-2010, 02:50 PM
So a school does not have to teach math, science or history; but by Heaven they better teach the benefits of a balanced diet...

What the **** happened to health class?

:Broncos:

The Republicans cut it out of the budget. With phys ed. ;D

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:50 PM
And yet Palin's entire political career has been based on slandering people. Go figure. ???


Proof, please.


:Broncos:

SonOfLe-loLang
11-15-2010, 02:51 PM
So a school does not have to teach math, science or history; but by Heaven they better teach the benefits of a balanced diet...

What the **** happened to health class?

:Broncos:

That's apples and oranges. Obviously there are many problems with our school system, but to come in on your high horse and pile more sugar into childrens mouths when, in this case, its GOOD policy is absurd. The woman just wants to be a celebrity, trust me, she could give a **** about the country. and i 100 percent believe that.

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:52 PM
The Republicans cut it out of the budget. With phys ed. ;D


Wait...I thought Obama "saved" all these teaching jobs. Surely that would mean lesbo gym teachers and hippie health instructors have saved jobs, too.

Hmm...must be the same lib jackass who sued a school district because of "dangerous" playground equipment.

We live in a world of wierdos.

:Broncos:

SonOfLe-loLang
11-15-2010, 02:53 PM
Proof, please.


:Broncos:

Ummm, the entire 08 campaign against Obama...she suggested quite a few things...short memory?

Rohirrim
11-15-2010, 02:53 PM
Proof, please.


:Broncos:

First prove that Palin isn't a dummy. If she is, it's not slander. It's fact. How many people can't answer the question, "What magazines do you read?" Second, how many people would consider that a "gotcha" question? I'm thinking most people would consider that one a softball, unless they were a dummy.

Jason in LA
11-15-2010, 02:55 PM
We're 3-6. If people want to talk ****, they've got plenty of ammo.


That's pretty much it right there.

The blowout yesterday was awesome, but one game isn't going to change my opinion. I don't think this team has any difference makers (well, Doom is hurt). Not even Orton. Hopefully more wins will be coming so I can change my opinion, but until this team turns it around, the analysts have a lot of negative things to say about this team.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-15-2010, 02:56 PM
First prove that Palin isn't a dummy. If she is, it's not slander. It's fact. How many people can't answer the question, "What magazines do you read?" Second, how many people would consider that a "gotcha" question? I'm thinking most people would consider that one a softball, unless they were a dummy.

Well, to her credit, she did answer that. She reads "all of them" Every single one.

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:57 PM
That's apples and oranges. Obviously there are many problems with our school system, but to come in on your high horse and pile more sugar into childrens mouths when, in this case, its GOOD policy is absurd. The woman just wants to be a celebrity, trust me, she could give a **** about the country. and i 100 percent believe that.


Uh huh. Its a cookie. You are seriously arguing with me over a cookie. I am so sure that cookie will just wait 50 years before springing type II diabetes on those poor unsuspecting pupils. It is in no way, shape or form a school's responsibility to dictate to a group of kids what to eat. If the goal is to feed these kids, giving them **** they wont eat does not solve the problem.

And you cannot be so blind to see these same faults you readily accuse Palin of having being totally devoid in our President. The man is the definition of celebrity. Callous, shallow, ideologically rigid and has NO problem spending other people's money. I dont recall Pres. Bush or Clinton traveling overseas with an entourage of 3,000 people and 40 airplanes, or diverting half the US Navy for a single overseas trip.


:Broncos:

Zoobie
11-15-2010, 02:59 PM
Well...there was several women who claimed he forced himself on them.

Maybe not rape, but rape's slightly fat younger brother sexual assault.

Potato, Potatoe.

:Broncos:

There are several women who claim i'm not competent in bed, but those girls are all lesbians.

He was obviously trying to do them a favor.

Archer81
11-15-2010, 02:59 PM
First prove that Palin isn't a dummy. If she is, it's not slander. It's fact. How many people can't answer the question, "What magazines do you read?" Second, how many people would consider that a "gotcha" question? I'm thinking most people would consider that one a softball, unless they were a dummy.


Way to avoid the question.


:Broncos:

Inkana7
11-15-2010, 03:01 PM
Uh huh. Its a cookie. You are seriously arguing with me over a cookie. I am so sure that cookie will just wait 50 years before springing type II diabetes on those poor unsuspecting pupils. It is in no way, shape or form a school's responsibility to dictate to a group of kids what to eat. If the goal is to feed these kids, giving them **** they wont eat does not solve the problem.

And you cannot be so blind to see these same faults you readily accuse Palin of having being totally devoid in our President. The man is the definition of celebrity. Callous, shallow, ideologically rigid and has NO problem spending other people's money. I dont recall Pres. Bush or Clinton traveling overseas with an entourage of 3,000 people and 40 airplanes, or diverting half the US Navy for a single overseas trip.


:Broncos:

*cough* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_White_Fleet *cough*

TR seemed to work out pretty swell.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-15-2010, 03:04 PM
Uh huh. Its a cookie. You are seriously arguing with me over a cookie. I am so sure that cookie will just wait 50 years before springing type II diabetes on those poor unsuspecting pupils. It is in no way, shape or form a school's responsibility to dictate to a group of kids what to eat. If the goal is to feed these kids, giving them **** they wont eat does not solve the problem.

And you cannot be so blind to see these same faults you readily accuse Palin of having being totally devoid in our President. The man is the definition of celebrity. Callous, shallow, ideologically rigid and has NO problem spending other people's money. I dont recall Pres. Bush or Clinton traveling overseas with an entourage of 3,000 people and 40 airplanes, or diverting half the US Navy for a single overseas trip.


:Broncos:

Youre missing the point. Its not about the cookie, its about her griping over something that should be good policy. Since when did CHILDRENS HEALTH become a leftist agenda? Child obseity is a huge problem in this country and this bull**** gesture is just ****ing poison. There have been studies over how kids react during a school day with a good breakfast as opposed to pop tarts and theres a difference.

Here's a huge difference between Obama and Palin. THE EDUCATED MAN KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT POLITICS AND IS INTERESTED IN IT. Palin didnt know SIMPLE things about Politics. BASIC ****. Put it this way, if Obama were to lose in 2012, guess what he wouldnt have? A reality show.

lostknight
11-15-2010, 03:05 PM
Ignoring the political morons who think that hatred and spittle are the finest form of discourse for a moment, this statement that Hige meant as a slam is actually fairly true. But it is much more of a complement then a slam. First of all, Orton is a system QB. Pure and simple. Drop him back in Chicago, or just about any where else, and his ratings would all take a dive. But I don't think Brady could survive the same test either. Only Manning, imho, would do well, and that's only if the head coach doesn't mind being demoted. Cutler was the benefactor of Shanny's system in a similar way, and while Cutler undoubtedly is a far more skilled athlete then Orton, Orton's ability to execute as a part of a team, in a scheme has made him more effective - well at least in every way except wins, given that the bears lead their division, and we are in the dung heap in ours.

The rest of the talent around him is arguably similar to last year. Lloyd has made the most of his opportunities, but definitely doesn't have Marshall's yards after the catch magic, Royal is Royal, Gaffney is Gaffney. DT will be something special, but not until he learns the playbook. The improvement has come with improved execution of the scheme, not single player performance. McDaniels system is first, foremost and only about wide receivers and quarterbacks throwing to them. I don't think it's a surprise then that the running game is weak, and that the Defense is having problems.

Defense is a bit more worrying - It's pretty clear that Dawkins has lost a step. Champ may or may not be far behind, and we still have a old defense prone to breaking down over time. Cox shutdown his side of the field last night, and he will be great eventually, but like DT, needs experience.

Just about the only "solo" performer that I think really justifies the label so far this season is Tebow. He's five for five in the ten yard zone for touch downs, and you can safely pin that on his athletic ability.

But here is the twist, his solo performance will pale when he starts really learning and executing the system. Then you have a hyper-mobile quarterback plus this passing attack. The reason some of the Tebow backers, including myself, are so high on the kid is because of that combo.

So is there are there clear playmakers? Perhaps not. But is there a system - yes - and when the system is finally balanced, it will be just as good as the Cutlers of the world.

Homer Simpson
11-15-2010, 03:06 PM
Kyle Orton vs. K.C.-became first QB in Broncos history to post 275+yds and 4+TDs while not being intercepted or sacked once..

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-15-2010, 03:07 PM
i see no problem with sarah palin not shure if she could ever be president . im still undecided . dunno why people dislike sarah soo badly, but i wont go all ragy over it, now that i said i like sarah watch the crowd to go all balistic and get upset and btw people shouldnt get upset over people not liking sarah and go all jihady over it . and obama is a economic terrorist . and broncos are still my fav team no matter how sucky or awesome or whos the coach qb is and raider are still suck

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-15-2010, 03:09 PM
also ELWAY ,TEBOW FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or part owners of the broncos!
dont ne of you argue wid me ! elway president tebow vp

Archer81
11-15-2010, 03:11 PM
3-6 makes it hard to say Denver has playmakers...

But when your premier passrusher on defense and an up and coming LB are both out for extended periods it is hard to have consistently good defense. Offensively it does not help when two of the better tackles in the league are either banged up or one is in and out of the lineup. You could be loaded at WR and HB but who would know it if your offensive line goes through half a dozen lineup changes before you get the healthy guys back?

So in summation, **** you Hoge.

:Broncos:

Jason in LA
11-15-2010, 03:18 PM
I thought I entered a thread about the Broncos. I guess not. ;D

Requiem
11-15-2010, 03:30 PM
Brandon Lloyd?

Zoobie
11-15-2010, 03:30 PM
Brandon Lloyd?

Who?

Broncoman13
11-15-2010, 03:32 PM
I thought I entered a thread about the Broncos. I guess not. ;D

Holy Shiat, that's what I was thinking. I even scrolled up to make sure I didn't accidentally click on the politics forum!

Brandon Lloyd's play has been spectacular and I would argue he is a difference maker. DT has that ability and it well eventually show. Knowshon, probably not. I think he'll have a ton of 80-90 yard games and will have a consistent career catching 35-40 balls per season and scoring 10 total TDs per season, but he isn't a true difference maker.

Tebow will be a difference maker in due time. The dude is going to make teams slow down their pass rush.

I'd also argue that McD's flexibility in calling passing plays downfield is making a huge difference. Last year we begged him to go deep... even to the point of applauding the once every couple of games incomplete deep ball. This year, we're connecting on a pretty high pct. of deep passes and it's leading to points more often than not.

Back to Tebow... since we started using him on goal to go situations we've seen a bit less of Prater... Glad McD decided to try something that he originally didn't want to consider, again his adjustments are making a difference. Not game changing yet, but steps in the right direction.

TailgateNut
11-15-2010, 03:46 PM
wow. so now you resort to neg repping people you don't agree with.



well, whatever. i don't care about rep. i don't even give neg rep except when in response to somebody giving me neg rep.

incoming


No just stupid MFers like you who seem to think some dumb ass bitch who has visions of grandeur deserves one iota of respect.

One has to be as stupid as a box of rocks to consider her an intelligent human being. She's an attention whore!

TailgateNut
11-15-2010, 03:51 PM
i'm not a randian.

I just find atlas shrugged to be a good read and it applies to what's happening in today's world.

Produce one authentic quote from sarah palin of this so-called "venom"?

Just because you say something to be true doesn't mean it is.

There is lots of evidence that obama's academic accomplishments have been inflated. there's also anecdotal evidence that his first book was ghost written for him. When he speaks off the cuff, he stutters and is unable to piece together coherent sentences.
he's not smart. Certainly not the "genius" that so many on the left gave him credit for being. Of course, admitting that is impossible for an obama voter because it means they were duped.

Do you have to be very smart to be a good president? No. Would every very smart person be a good president? No.

Just don't inflate his credentials while simultaneously deflate the credentials of your opponents. Palin is not a moron. Obama is not a genius.

Debate their policies and beliefs. I'm prepared to do that. I don't like obama because i know who he is and what he truly believes. That doesn't mean he can't be charismatic and affable.


lollollol

TailgateNut
11-15-2010, 03:53 PM
Well, to her credit, she did answer that. She reads "all of them" Every single one.


You betcha!:~ohyah!:

TailgateNut
11-15-2010, 03:56 PM
Uh huh. Its a cookie. You are seriously arguing with me over a cookie. I am so sure that cookie will just wait 50 years before springing type II diabetes on those poor unsuspecting pupils. It is in no way, shape or form a school's responsibility to dictate to a group of kids what to eat. If the goal is to feed these kids, giving them **** they wont eat does not solve the problem.

And you cannot be so blind to see these same faults you readily accuse Palin of having being totally devoid in our President. The man is the definition of celebrity. Callous, shallow, ideologically rigid and has NO problem spending other people's money. I dont recall Pres. Bush or Clinton traveling overseas with an entourage of 3,000 people and 40 airplanes, or diverting half the US Navy for a single overseas trip.


:Broncos:


Geeebus f-ing christmus.

TailgateNut
11-15-2010, 03:59 PM
i see no problem with sarah palin not shure if she could ever be president . im still undecided . dunno why people dislike sarah soo badly, but i wont go all ragy over it, now that i said i like sarah watch the crowd to go all balistic and get upset and btw people shouldnt get upset over people not liking sarah and go all jihady over it . and obama is a economic terrorist . and broncos are still my fav team no matter how sucky or awesome or whos the coach qb is and raider are still suck


I see you and Sarah attended the same schools.

Cito Pelon
11-15-2010, 04:04 PM
Holy Shiat, that's what I was thinking. I even scrolled up to make sure I didn't accidentally click on the politics forum!

Brandon Lloyd's play has been spectacular and I would argue he is a difference maker. DT has that ability and it well eventually show. Knowshon, probably not. I think he'll have a ton of 80-90 yard games and will have a consistent career catching 35-40 balls per season and scoring 10 total TDs per season, but he isn't a true difference maker.

Tebow will be a difference maker in due time. The dude is going to make teams slow down their pass rush.

I'd also argue that McD's flexibility in calling passing plays downfield is making a huge difference. Last year we begged him to go deep... even to the point of applauding the once every couple of games incomplete deep ball. This year, we're connecting on a pretty high pct. of deep passes and it's leading to points more often than not.

Back to Tebow... since we started using him on goal to go situations we've seen a bit less of Prater... Glad McD decided to try something that he originally didn't want to consider, again his adjustments are making a difference. Not game changing yet, but steps in the right direction.

I like the post patterns Josh has been calling. I absolutely love the post pattern, probably my favorite play of all time. I bet the Broncs have run more posts this year than the last 6 years combined.

misturanderson
11-15-2010, 05:16 PM
So is there are there clear playmakers? Perhaps not. But is there a system - yes - and when the system is finally balanced, it will be just as good as the Cutlers of the world.

I was relatively on board with what you were saying until the end.

What the **** kind of moron thinks that Cutler is a bigger difference maker (for his own team) than half of our starters on offense (and obviously our starters aren't that amazing)? And even more so why would we strive to have that kind of difference maker?

He has 13 turnovers (1 more than he has TDs) in 10 games and has played a ridiculously easy schedule with the #4 total defense and #2 scoring defense in the league backing him up. The fact that they have lost 3 games this year is almost entirely his fault.

Jesus Christ let the ****er's nuts go, they don't taste as good as you think they do.

cutthemdown
11-15-2010, 06:09 PM
Remember it was Dennis Smith who ended Hoge's career. He may have taken a few shots after the one when Dennis knocked him out, but it was the beginning of the end.

Jetmeck
11-15-2010, 06:53 PM
**** off back to MSNBC a-hole.

i'd take Palin any day over Obama the fraud, Pelosi the b****, Reid the racist, or Biden the pathological liar.

Well then your avatar fits you well.

WolfpackGuy
11-15-2010, 06:56 PM
Hoge is just mad because he had the game of his life in the 89 playoffs against Denver...and lost.

Greatspirits
11-15-2010, 06:58 PM
**** off back to MSNBC a-hole.

i'd take Palin any day over Obama the fraud, Pelosi the b****, Reid the racist, or Biden the pathological liar.

Omg! You are totally do have a delusional disorder! Im a Republican and I wouldn't vote for that ding bat if my life depended on it! That biatch belongs in the Outhouse not the White House!

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-15-2010, 07:31 PM
ELWAY FOR PRESIDENT !!!!!!!
and tebow forgives u

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-15-2010, 07:35 PM
also people calm down. damn getting all upset over the i like dislike palin . ask your self one question . What would Tebow do amen