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Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 06:50 AM
It's nice that you guys look up to us like your big brother now.

It's so cute!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/wires/11/11/2020.ap.fbn.chiefs.broncos.adv14.1030/index.html#ixzz154uPNKQ7


DENVER (AP) -The Denver Broncos returned from their bye week determined to find a ground game so they could keep their quarterback clean and their defense fresh.

In short, they want to be just like the Kansas City Chiefs.

The Broncos (2-6) stumbled through the season's first half with a turnstile offensive line that couldn't bore holes for a banged up backfield or plug the pass rush that turned Kyle Orton into a punching bag.

Unable to control the clock or correct their offensive imbalance and penchant for penalties, they were overexposed on defense, wearing down by the fourth quarter and losing three close games.

The Chiefs (5-3), who visit Invesco Field on Sunday, are atop the AFC West precisely because they're doing everything the Broncos aren't.

They're the epitome of offensive balance: Matt Cassel has thrown for 1,412 yards while a bruising backfield led by Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones has rushed for 1,437 yards.

Cassel has been sacked 11 times, half as much as Orton.

"It's important to have a balanced attack and we've been doing a pretty good job all year keeping it balanced and mixing and matching both pass and run but also getting us in manageable third-down situations,'' Cassel said. "And we've got two great halfbacks right now that have been doing a great job for us all year.

"And that definitely helps me because it takes some of that pass rush off and you don't become one-dimensional.''

Orton is envious.

"We've hurt ourselves so much that half the time we're in second-and-15, third-and-12. I mean, all you're going to get is pass rush in those situations and you're going to get their best pass rush,'' said Orton.

With a keep-em-guessing offense, the Chiefs have eaten up yards and clock, keeping their defenders fresh, and the result is a plus-6 turnover differential and a turnaround from last year's 4-12 campaign.

The Chiefs boast the league's best rushing attack, anchored by Broncos castoff Casey Wiegmann, a veteran center that Denver coach Josh McDaniels criticized last summer as too old, too weak and too slow.

Too bad.

The 37-year-old Wiegmann is doing just fine in Kansas City, where he returned this season after a two-year stint in Denver that included a Pro Bowl berth in 2008.

Wiegmann didn't seem bitter or upset when told of McDaniels' comments earlier this season.

"That's what they told me when they called me and said they were going to release me, that they were going to go with a bigger offensive line, a more powerful running game,'' he said.

The Broncos have certainly gotten younger, bigger, stronger and quicker - but not any better.

The Chiefs? They're older, slower and smaller up front, but much improved.

In addition to Wiegmann, veteran right guard Ryan Lilja came over from Indianapolis and right tackle Barry Richardson has been playing ahead of last year's starter, Ryan O'Callaghan.

Cassel said Wiegmann is the reason the O-line has meshed so quickly.

"Oh, man. We've been so fortunate to have Casey here and he's done a tremendous job for us. He's a guy that's come in and never complains, just puts his head down and works hard,'' Cassel said. "And he's a guy that's been leading since he stepped in the weight room this offseason. I don't think he even missed an offseason workout. He's a guy that's just added a tremendous amount of leadership and is just showing our young guys what it takes to be successful in the NFL.''

The team Wiegmann left behind sports the worst ground game in the NFL with a measly 67-yard average, more than 100 yards a game less than Kansas City.

The Broncos insist they'll be better in the cold weather because tailback Knowshon Moreno is finally healthy after being hindered by two torn hamstrings and they finally have the offensive line in place that they envisioned before Ryan Harris sprained his left ankle in the preseason finale.

Harris went back to right tackle this week with rookie Zane Beadles moving back to left guard.

They hope to cut down on the many hits Orton is taking like the one from San Francisco linebacker Manny Lawson two weeks ago that jammed his throwing shoulder into the turf and bruised his ribs, leaving him unsure if he could have played last week had the Broncos had a game.

Protecting their prolific passer - Orton is on pace to challenge Dan Marino's NFL record of 5,084 yards set in 1984 - is priority No. 1 for the Broncos.

To do that, they need better blocking up front, better blitz pickup from the backs, more production on the ground and cleaner play all around.

That way, Orton wouldn't have to air it out so much.

"I think any time the volume of passes goes up, the volume of hits on the quarterback tends to do the same thing,'' Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said. "I think it's a two-sided issue - run it better, throw it less - and he doesn't have to take as many hits.''

Like Cassel.

"We've become a balanced attack,'' Cassel said. "That's important for any quarterback because at this time last year we were 1-7 and we were a struggling football team trying to find our identity.''

Just like the Broncos are now.

Man-Goblin
11-12-2010, 06:56 AM
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baja
11-12-2010, 06:57 AM
Ya mean the Broncos want to go 40 years without a SB? Why would we aspire to that?

Broncomutt
11-12-2010, 06:57 AM
Does this mean we have to give back one of our Lombardi Trophies?

bronco militia
11-12-2010, 07:04 AM
correction...the chiefs and broncos want to be like the Patriots.

**** that

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 07:05 AM
You have to admit the Wiegmann thing is pretty funny.

Chiefs thought he was washed up, Shanny claims him and he goes to the Pro Bowl.

McDaniels think he is washed up, Haley claims him and we lead the league in rushing.

Jetmeck
11-12-2010, 07:09 AM
Question; Which has been longer ? The Chiefs winning a SB, aw hell Ill say a playoff win instead or the last time Boob had a girlfriend (or boyfriend ?) ?

Tough one isn't it ?
Poll upcoming.....lol

Baba Booey
11-12-2010, 07:13 AM
Ya mean the Broncos want to go 40 years without a SB? Why would we aspire to that?

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1836/1289494045731.jpg

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 07:16 AM
Don't worry, Bob. You've always been our big brother. Our huge, can't leave the house because you're too ****ing fat to get out the door brother.

broncswin
11-12-2010, 07:20 AM
Rofl! rofl! rofl!

Jason in LA
11-12-2010, 07:21 AM
I have very little respect for the Chargers because they have never won anything. I don't really consider them a rival. I've never hated that team.

You know what, the only thing that separates the Chiefs from the Chargers is one game in 1970. Thanks, but no thanks. I'll ride this Broncos thing out.

TonyR
11-12-2010, 07:23 AM
Is it true that McD publicly criticized Wiegmann as this article suggests? I neither recall this nor believe this.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 07:29 AM
Don't worry, Bob. You've always been our big brother. Our huge, can't leave the house because you're too ****ing fat to get out the door brother.

You're an idiot, dude. You don't even know the good Bob stories. You've been here for exactly two years. I've been skinny that entire time.

Real bob haters know the history, the Dark Times Of Fatness, when The Red Knight was my greatest downfall and Larry Johnson was my only lover.

You don't know ****.

You're a fraud.

bronco militia
11-12-2010, 07:37 AM
Broncos, Chiefs plant futures in Patriots' soil
Josh McDaniels and K.C. GM Scott Pioli are both products of the system.


Read more: Broncos, Chiefs plant futures in Patriots' soil - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_16591326#ixzz155ClSEml

TheReverend
11-12-2010, 07:45 AM
Is it true that McD publicly criticized Wiegmann as this article suggests? I neither recall this nor believe this.

"That's what they told me when they called me and said they were going to release me, that they were going to go with a bigger offensive line, a more powerful running game,'' he said.

If that's really the approach they took to releasing Casey, then that's absolutely disgusting.

TheReverend
11-12-2010, 07:46 AM
You're an idiot, dude. You don't even know the good Bob stories. You've been here for exactly two years. I've been skinny that entire time.

Real bob haters know the history, the Dark Times Of Fatness, when The Red Knight was my greatest downfall and Larry Johnson was my only lover.

You don't know ****.

You're a fraud.

Ah memories.

NONE SHALL PASS

Ha!

TonyR
11-12-2010, 07:52 AM
"That's what they told me when they called me and said they were going to release me, that they were going to go with a bigger offensive line, a more powerful running game,'' he said.

If that's really the approach they took to releasing Casey, then that's absolutely disgusting.

I hear ya but that's not really "public criticism" the way the article implies.

broncofan2438
11-12-2010, 07:52 AM
Can we actually get a picture of Bob? I would love to see just how ugly Bob is

baja
11-12-2010, 07:54 AM
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/1111/20101111_103109_FooterBroncos111210.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 07:54 AM
Can we actually get a picture of Bob? I would love to see just how ugly Bob is

I'm actually quite handsome.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 07:56 AM
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/1111/20101111_103109_FooterBroncos111210.jpg

Our 09 class was dreadful but the article ignores the fact that the '10 class has been a home run so far.

All those picks have contributed in some way this year. Asamoah started a game already and looked great.

Boogerboots
11-12-2010, 08:10 AM
Broncos want to be just like the Chiefs!

Well by that if you mean by bottoming out for a season and then feast on the weak sked the following year...well we're halfway there. :wiggle:

Jason in LA
11-12-2010, 08:25 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Jlewis3233/loser.jpg
bob

TheReverend
11-12-2010, 08:35 AM
I hear ya but that's not really "public criticism" the way the article implies.

Agree, but I'm focused on the part that's more bothersome to me. The only public criticism in that effect wasn't direct. Regardless, if he said this straight forward to casey when he released him, that'd be a big concern, imo.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 08:38 AM
You're an idiot, dude. You don't even know the good Bob stories. You've been here for exactly two years. I've been skinny that entire time.

Real bob haters know the history, the Dark Times Of Fatness, when The Red Knight was my greatest downfall and Larry Johnson was my only lover.

You don't know ****.

You're a fraud.

I don't know anything about someone I don't give two ****s about, and somehow that makes me an idiot?

Okay fat boy.

Have another slice and a couple twinkies, bitch tits.

eddie mac
11-12-2010, 08:38 AM
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/1111/20101111_103109_FooterBroncos111210.jpg

Doesn't mean **** if your 2-6, how many rooks you've managed to keep.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 08:40 AM
I'm actually quite handsome.

His mom comes downstairs to tell him that every day... just before she serves his customary 10 pancakes and 25 sausage links breakfast.

"MOM! DOn"T FORGET THE SYRRUP THIS TAAHHM! I'M HONGRY!"

What a charming littl... er... huge... fella.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 08:40 AM
I don't know anything about someone I don't give two ****s about, and somehow that makes me an idiot?

Okay fat boy.

Have another slice and a couple twinkies, b**** boobies.

See, you're not even original. You're like a parrot. You saw someone call me fat once, and so you repeat it because you want to be one of the cool kids.

Unless you truly understand the root of bob bashing, you're just a pretender. A fraud.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 08:42 AM
See, you're not even original. You're like a parrot. You saw someone call me fat once, and so you repeat it because you want to be one of the cool kids.

Unless you truly understand the root of bob bashing, you're just a pretender. A fraud.

I've seen the pictures of you, tons of fun. It has nothing to do with parroting anyone.

What a ****ing retard.

And who's the fraud? You're on the website of a team that you don't root for all day every day. Christ, if that's not the most pathetic thing I've ever heard.

Jason in LA
11-12-2010, 08:44 AM
I'm actually quite handsome.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Jlewis3233/loser.jpg
bob

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 08:45 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Jlewis3233/loser.jpg
bob

But you guys will never understand Bob's fat ass because you weren't around!

Ha!

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 08:50 AM
I've seen the pictures of you, tons of fun. It has nothing to do with parroting anyone.


Sure it does. When you registered, those pictures were four years old. I'm a completely different person.

You just hopped on the bob flame train because it was the cool thing to do.

FRAUD!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 08:52 AM
Sure it does. When you registered, those pictures were four years old. I'm a completely different person.

You just hopped on the bob flame train because it was the cool thing to do.

FRAUD!

Whatever helps you sleep at night Tubbs.

Losing that weight hasn't made you any less of an ugly, pathetic, sad person. So good luck with that. You'll always be a fat-ass to the Mane.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 08:55 AM
Whatever helps you sleep at night Tubbs.

Losing that weight hasn't made you any less of an ugly, pathetic, sad person. So good luck with that. You'll always be a fat-ass to the Mane.

Hilarious!

You don't even know what I was like five years ago, so how can you comment on it?

You're so full of ****, ThatOneDenverParrotGuy. You come into every thread I participate in and post "LOL BOB IS FAT" like it means something or makes you clever and witty. It doesn't. It just means you're a dumbass who can't think for himself.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 09:09 AM
Hilarious!

You don't even know what I was like five years ago, so how can you comment on it?

You're so full of ****, ThatOneDenverParrotGuy. You come into every thread I participate in and post "LOL BOB IS FAT" like it means something or makes you clever and witty. It doesn't. It just means you're a dumbass who can't think for himself.

Looks like somebody got under your fat, fatboy. What's wrong? Don't have the stomach for it? We all know that ain't true.

As for what I know: I know that you are an ugly human being, a pathetic sack of **** who trolls football message boards all day long. I know you're a ****ty writer, writing on a ****ty website about a ****ty team. I know that as frauds go, you'd certainly know how to spot one, given your little "Dear Penthouse Forum" stories you tell around here about getting laid. I know you're a ****ing midget, mentally and physically, an insignificant little stain on this world, and that you think quite highly of yourself in spite of that.

I know you think you're clever.

I know that you're not.

Go stuff your face, fatty. Because even though you might be skinny(er), there's still an ugly-ass fat boy feeling hurt and upset inside.

Jason in LA
11-12-2010, 09:10 AM
"LOL BOB IS FAT"

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Jlewis3233/loser.jpg
bob

crazyhorse
11-12-2010, 09:27 AM
Sure it does. When you registered, those pictures were four years old. I'm a completely different person.You just hopped on the bob flame train because it was the cool thing to do.

FRAUD!

Bull****.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 09:30 AM
I know you're a ****ing midget, mentally and physically.

I'm 5-11.

And wow, your mock anger is hilarious.

What's mostly hilarious is that you are drawn to my posts like moth to a flame.

I own you.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 09:37 AM
I'm 5-11.

And wow, your mock anger is hilarious.

What's mostly hilarious is that you are drawn to my posts like moth to a flame.

I own you.

/yawn

I'm 6'3". Did you have a point?

Keep talking, fatty.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 09:37 AM
My point was I'm not a midget.

Jason in LA
11-12-2010, 09:38 AM
I'm 5-11.



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Jlewis3233/loser.jpg
bob

Yes, he looks 5'11" to me.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 09:38 AM
Little defensive, aren't we Bob?

Go deep fry a twinkie. It must be time for second breakfast or first lunch.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 09:39 AM
Are you going to be replying to every post I make this weekend?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-12-2010, 09:41 AM
Are you going to be replying to every post I make this weekend?

I'd say that's doubtful. I have a life. Generally don't get online on weekends.

I'm in Steamboat Springs right now, working. In which armpit of the world are you currently taking up more than your share of space?

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2010, 09:45 AM
I'd say that's doubtful. I have a life. Generally don't get online on weekends.


ROFL!

You won't be able to resist this place Sunday night. You'll see me post once and come running.

That's your role around here. You troll the troll.

See you then.

(by the way, you should reply to this post)

Popps
11-12-2010, 09:48 AM
You're an idiot, dude. You don't even know the good Bob stories. You've been here for exactly two years. I've been skinny that entire time.

Real bob haters know the history, the Dark Times Of Fatness, when The Red Knight was my greatest downfall and Larry Johnson was my only lover.

You don't know ****.

You're a fraud.

Shut it, fat-ass.

Brewer
11-12-2010, 09:53 AM
Can we actually get a picture of Bob? I would love to see just how ugly Bob is

Picture a morbidly obese Newman character from Seinfeld...

Rohirrim
11-12-2010, 09:56 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Jlewis3233/loser.jpg
bob

I've got better looking hemorrhoids.

ZachKC
11-12-2010, 10:00 AM
You have to admit the Wiegmann thing is pretty funny.

Chiefs thought he was washed up, Shanny claims him and he goes to the Pro Bowl.

McDaniels think he is washed up, Haley claims him and we lead the league in rushing.

I wasn't crazy about the move at the time. I remember that.

Kaylore
11-12-2010, 10:49 AM
I think that is what Chief fans secretly really hope for. They want to be envied by Bronco fans. That explains their obsession with our team and constantly comparing themselves to us. It's probably from years of envying us they want things to be reversed.

I envy their special teams! They seem like they've always had at least a decent kicking game. Seems like no matter what we try our return game sucks horribly.

Zoobie
11-12-2010, 11:13 AM
Jesus, all the cellar dwelling chef and fader fans come out of the wood works when they finally have some success. How does it feel 7 years later? Good ****ing lord.

crazyhorse
11-12-2010, 03:22 PM
Jesus, all the cellar dwelling chef and fader fans come out of the wood works when they finally have some success. How does it feel 7 years later? Good ****ing lord.

Beat it, noob.