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TonyR
11-09-2010, 01:43 PM
Rush must be back on the prescription meds:
What have I told you about diet and exercise? Exercise is irrelevant.... "How do you know all this?" One of the reasons I know what I know is that I know liberals, and I know liberals lie, and if Michelle Obama's gonna be out there ripping into "food desserts" and saying, "This is why people are fat," I know it's not true. "Rush, do you really believe that? It's that simple to you, liberals lie?" Yes, it is, folks. Once you learn that, once you come to grips with that, once you accept that, the rest is easy. Very, very simple. Now, my doctor has never told me to restrict any intake of salt, but if he did, I wouldn't. I'd just spend more time in the steam or the sauna sweating it out.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110810/content/01125106.guest.html
I bet Skillet is home shoving down junk food as we speak! "Duh, Rush said it so it must be true!!!"
Ya Rush is the poster boy for a healthy person.
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Pony Boy
11-09-2010, 02:35 PM
Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds
(CNN) -- Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts.
For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.
His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.
The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.
For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily.So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.
His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
That One Guy
11-09-2010, 02:41 PM
Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds
(CNN) -- Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts.
For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.
His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.
The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.
For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily.So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.
His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
And that's why weight loss concepts are hillarious.
Calories in vs calories out is all that matters. There's a commercial on the radio now that makes me laugh, it's a guy saying "Did you know that consuming less than [number, I think he says 1000] calories a day can actually make your body GAIN weight?"
Because I remember when they liberated the concentration camps and it was full of those starving, fat Jews.
Even exercise has so little impact that a normal person can't lose weight by increasing exercise alone. Not much, at least. It might raise the number of calories your body burns throughout the day by a bit in repairing muscle but the 2-300 calories you'll burn on the treadmill is like 2 granola bars or something. Such a silly premise.
chadta
11-09-2010, 02:43 PM
ill stick with the beer diet
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barryr
11-09-2010, 03:46 PM
Genetics I think plays a big role in all of this. But we all die eventually, so eating all the celery and carrots is not going to let you live forever. I sometimes want a hamburger or something not deemed good for you. But it is interesting to notice that people who live to be very old, like well over 100, never seem to say they were vegetarians or were nuts about exercise and did it often. I have never seen that stated before at least.
That One Guy
11-09-2010, 03:49 PM
Genetics I think plays a big role in all of this. But we all die eventually, so eating all the celery and carrots is not going to let you live forever. I sometimes want a hamburger or something not deemed good for you. But it is interesting to notice that people who live to be very old, like well over 100, never seem to say they were vegetarians or were nuts about exercise and did it often. I have never seen that stated before at least.
I've read quite a few theories that by eating bad, your body burns through more and you essentially age faster. Something about the longevity of your cells being tied to the number of calories they burn. Stretch it out by burning less calories and supposedly you're supposed to essentially age slower.
Don't know the validity of it. But I have read it a few places before. Probably still just in theory stages.
Oh, and yes, genetics is probably the single biggest factor of anything in our lives. Some people would have to eat sunshine and clouds to get down to 180 lbs. Others could have big macs deposited in their arteries and still be a rock solid 110 lbs.
barryr
11-09-2010, 03:52 PM
I've read quite a few theories that by eating bad, your body burns through more and you essentially age faster. Something about the longevity of your cells being tied to the number of calories they burn. Stretch it out by burning less calories and supposedly you're supposed to essentially age slower.
Don't know the validity of it. But I have read it a few places before. Probably still just in theory stages.
Oh, and yes, genetics is probably the single biggest factor of anything in our lives. Some people would have to eat sunshine and clouds to get down to 180 lbs. Others could have big macs deposited in their arteries and still be a rock solid 110 lbs.
Trans fats are the biggest problem, as well as corn syrup. The body doesn't know what to do with those things if you eat or drink a lot of it. Not to mention aspertame, which is in most diet drinks and even in most gums for some reason.
Spider
11-09-2010, 04:05 PM
well I went with a diabetic diet , eating 6 small meals a day , and staying away from anything white , my AC1 is 7.5 and my 3 month blood sugar average average is 169 , now I have gone from 250 , to 230 , down to 215 , back up to 230 , and making my way down to 215 again ;-) lifting weights alone wasnt enough , I started bulking up real big again , so now I walk a mile to 2 miles a day , lift every other day .... and it is working ;D ....
well I went with a diabetic diet , eating 6 small meals a day , and staying away from anything white , my AC1 is 7.5 and my 3 month blood sugar average average is 169 , now I have gone from 250 , to 230 , down to 215 , back up to 230 , and making my way down to 215 again ;-) lifting weights alone wasnt enough , I started bulking up real big again , so now I walk a mile to 2 miles a day , lift every other day .... and it is working ;D ....
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Spider
11-09-2010, 04:20 PM
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thanks ...... I am going ot check into that , I was told to Exercise and eat right , well I got the exercise part down pat ;D I havent been in this physical shape since I was in my 20's ......
Spider;
Start with this buying video
I personally know people that have cured diabetes with this inexpensive (at home) program
http://www.rawfor30days.com/index4.html
Good luck my friend
Spider
11-09-2010, 04:28 PM
Spider;
Start with this buying video
I personally know people that have cured diabetes with this inexpensive (at home) program
http://www.rawfor30days.com/index4.html
Good luck my friend
;D thanks .... I need it .. although havin this body back sure does have some perks , I dont have a problem finding a date ;D
elsid13
11-09-2010, 04:30 PM
;D thanks .... I need it .. although havin this body back sure does have some perks , I dont have a problem finding a date ;D
Who knew sheep liked in shape trucker.
Spider
11-09-2010, 04:31 PM
that is a road I am going to follow Baja ..... I am not on pills yet , and I still get a 1 year dot card , so I am going ot nab this now
Spider
11-09-2010, 04:31 PM
Who knew sheep liked in shape trucker.
LOL **** you
that is a road I am going to follow Baja ..... I am not on pills yet , and I still get a 1 year dot card , so I am going ot nab this now
Good for you
Glad to hear it.
Spider
11-09-2010, 04:38 PM
Good for you
Glad to hear it.
well I was going through orientation for us express , and that doc they had in Dallas , really screwed up , big time , So icame back to Cheyenne went to a doctor I know , he said enough is enough and ordered up the lab work and did a complete physical , I am in the early stages of Diabetes , and he suggested the same thing you have in these videos .....other then that , I am in perfect health
gyldenlove
11-09-2010, 05:30 PM
Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds
(CNN) -- Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts.
For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.
His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.
The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.
For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily.So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.
His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
How was his productivity, general health, concentration and energy level during that diet? My guess is not good.
That One Guy
11-09-2010, 06:00 PM
How was his productivity, general health, concentration and energy level during that diet? My guess is not good.
Eh, I used to eat one good sized portion of meat a day and something real small to keep some sugar in my body and that's all I'd eat in a day. Something like 9 ounces of meat and maybe 2 ounces of a carb based product. I'd do that for about a month to lose weight for weigh in and I never had a noticeable change in behavior or energy. I was regularly losing 30-40 lbs a month and generally did it about every 6 months.
Taco John
11-09-2010, 06:32 PM
Who knew sheep liked in shape trucker.
Let's be real for a second... They also liked him when he was out of shape. ;)
Let's be real for a second... They also liked him when he was out of shape. ;)
Question is did they have a choice.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-09-2010, 06:36 PM
I bet Skillet is home shoving down junk food as we speak! "Duh, Rush said it so it must be true!!!"
Ha!
You can take that to the bank.
Spider
11-09-2010, 06:38 PM
Let's be real for a second... They also liked him when he was out of shape. ;)
LOL **** you to
elsid13
11-09-2010, 06:48 PM
LOL **** you to
Be nice to Issac, he giving you the chance to share you're love to Bea Arthur on the internet.
elsid13
11-09-2010, 06:50 PM
Question is did they have a choice.
Bahhhhhaaaa doesn't mean NO
*PS I am sorry if pissed anyone off with that joke
Bahhhhhaaaa doesn't mean NO
*PS I am sorry if pissed anyone off with that joke
He doesn't leave them much choice.
http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Travel/Tours/Wales/Swansea/Sheep.jpg
Spider
11-09-2010, 07:03 PM
Bahhhhhaaaa doesn't mean NO
*PS I am sorry if pissed anyone off with that joke
it does not .... now you sound like that stupid judge
gyldenlove
11-09-2010, 07:57 PM
Eh, I used to eat one good sized portion of meat a day and something real small to keep some sugar in my body and that's all I'd eat in a day. Something like 9 ounces of meat and maybe 2 ounces of a carb based product. I'd do that for about a month to lose weight for weigh in and I never had a noticeable change in behavior or energy. I was regularly losing 30-40 lbs a month and generally did it about every 6 months.
I don't know, I have seen a few guys on those eat one thing diets and after a couple of weeks they start noticibly lacking concentration, especially a sugar filled diet like that one, I imagine a high protein diet would be better because you don't get the rushes of sugar and then nothing, the body has a more constant level of activity.
That One Guy
11-09-2010, 08:00 PM
I don't know, I have seen a few guys on those eat one thing diets and after a couple of weeks they start noticibly lacking concentration, especially a sugar filled diet like that one, I imagine a high protein diet would be better because you don't get the rushes of sugar and then nothing, the body has a more constant level of activity.
Ahh... gotcha, yeah, I didn't consider the sugar rush and crash. That could definitely be an issue. I thought you were getting at the limited diet angle.
Good point
Bronco_Beerslug
11-09-2010, 08:37 PM
Eh, I was regularly losing 30-40 lbs a month and generally did it about every 6 months.Geeezus, what do/did you weigh, 800lbs?
Geeezus, what do/did you weigh, 800lbs?
Bad day in the market?
Bronco_Beerslug
11-09-2010, 08:48 PM
Bad day in the market? Not sure what that means, I was just wondering how anyone loses 40lbs a month. Ever seen it before?
Not sure what that means, I was just wondering how anyone loses 40lbs a month. Ever seen it before?
I've don that several times in my life by doing this;
http://www.juicefeasting.com/
and sometimes this;
http://mastercleanse.pbworks.com/w/page/20478984/Master-Cleanse
Hint: People have been known to regain the weight.
Not sure what that means, I was just wondering how anyone loses 40lbs a month. Ever seen it before?
BTW I hope you are starting to sell short these days.
Bronco_Beerslug
11-09-2010, 09:02 PM
BTW I hope you are starting to sell short these days.You forget, I'm a day trader. :) I rarely hold a security longer than a day or so and usually just hours. These swings back and forth are great for active traders!
And losing 40lbs a month sounds pretty drastic to me.
That One Guy
11-09-2010, 09:15 PM
Not sure what that means, I was just wondering how anyone loses 40lbs a month. Ever seen it before?
My do-nothing and eat out weight was about 255-260 and my weigh in for a PT test weight was about 215-220. As soon as the PT test was over, I'd slack off and gradually gain the weight back over about 5 months. Then I'd crash for one month, pass everything, and repeat.
It also came in conjunction with lots of sprinting earlier in the month followed by 2-3 mile runs every morning as the PT test day got closer. It surely wasn't good for me but you gotta do what you gotta do.
Oh, and on the body fat %, it was usually about a 3-4% by the Army measurement standards.
You forget, I'm a day trader. :) I rarely hold a security longer than a day or so and usually just hours. These swings back and forth are great for active traders!
And losing 40lbs a month sounds pretty drastic to me.
It's mostly water, lymph fluid and toxins. You do need to be careful as to how you break your fast though.
Check out those links interesting stuff.
What do you think of the Fed buying 700 billion worth of securities?
Bye bye dollar hello inflation bye bye savings
Oh I forgot some of the weight loss comes from eliminating colon sludge called mucoid plaque
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-10-2010, 03:42 AM
The Times exposes the craziness of the junk-food industry/USDA alliance (http://www.grist.org/article/food-2010-11-08-the-nyt-on-the-junk-food-industry-usda-alliance)
Spider
11-10-2010, 07:24 AM
My do-nothing and eat out weight was about 255-260 and my weigh in for a PT test weight was about 215-220. As soon as the PT test was over, I'd slack off and gradually gain the weight back over about 5 months. Then I'd crash for one month, pass everything, and repeat.
It also came in conjunction with lots of sprinting earlier in the month followed by 2-3 mile runs every morning as the PT test day got closer. It surely wasn't good for me but you gotta do what you gotta do.
Oh, and on the body fat %, it was usually about a 3-4% by the Army measurement standards.
well so much for the Twinkies diet ......
DenverBrit
11-10-2010, 08:22 AM
Rush must be back on the prescription meds:
What have I told you about diet and exercise? Exercise is irrelevant.... "How do you know all this?" One of the reasons I know what I know is that I know liberals, and I know liberals lie, and if Michelle Obama's gonna be out there ripping into "food desserts" and saying, "This is why people are fat," I know it's not true. "Rush, do you really believe that? It's that simple to you, liberals lie?" Yes, it is, folks. Once you learn that, once you come to grips with that, once you accept that, the rest is easy. Very, very simple. Now, my doctor has never told me to restrict any intake of salt, but if he did, I wouldn't. I'd just spend more time in the steam or the sauna sweating it out.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110810/content/01125106.guest.html
I bet Skillet is home shoving down junk food as we speak! "Duh, Rush said it so it must be true!!!"
Ah, the Limbaugh diet. Junk food and bullshet!!
TonyR
11-10-2010, 12:33 PM
Here's a reader follow up on this:
I read the whole article on CNN. As expected, Limbaugh's description of the diet is seriously flawed.
For one thing, the guy didn't just eat Twinkies. He ate a can of vegetables, a protein shake and a multi-vitamin every day. Limbaugh doesn't mention those trivial details in the transcript. The Twinkies provided the diet's caloric content. The nutrition came from other sources. So, referring to it as a "Twinkie diet" is disingenuous. Another point Limbaugh fails to mention: when you do the math, the guy only ate five individual Twinkie cakes a day. That's not exactly stuffing your face with Twinkies. Finally, though Twinkies have a reputation as being tiny cakes of death, they're really nothing more than 150 calories of flour, sugar, eggs, and lard (plus a bunch of flavor and texture additives with scary names, that are nonetheless ubiquitous in processed foods). The fat content is 4.5 grams, so eating five a day amouts to 22.5 grams of fat intake a day, significantly less than the 30 grams that constitute a low fat diet. And the cholesterol content? A mere 20 mg, or 7% of the RDA. Multiply that by 5 and you've got a grand total of 35% of your daily recommended cholesterol content. No wonder his cholesterol count improved!
Limbaugh, of course, mentions none of this. Instead he uses this diet to attack Michelle Obama, and reinforce his listener's desire to be told that everything those danged liberal authority figures have told them up to now is false, and the way to really lose weight is to stuff yourself with Twinkies, Doritos and Cheese Puffs.
Bronco_Beerslug
11-10-2010, 05:07 PM
My do-nothing and eat out weight was about 255-260 and my weigh in for a PT test weight was about 215-220. As soon as the PT test was over, I'd slack off and gradually gain the weight back over about 5 months. Then I'd crash for one month, pass everything, and repeat.
It also came in conjunction with lots of sprinting earlier in the month followed by 2-3 mile runs every morning as the PT test day got closer. It surely wasn't good for me but you gotta do what you gotta do.
Oh, and on the body fat %, it was usually about a 3-4% by the Army measurement standards.I'm not sure what kind of measurements they use but those can't be accurate. Shannon Sharpe usually was anywhere from 6 to 8% body fat. The best I've ever got down to was about 11%.
Losing that many pounds, that quick, just has to be totally unhealthy IMO.
I'm not sure what kind of measurements they use but those can't be accurate. Shannon Sharpe usually was anywhere from 6 to 8% body fat. The best I've ever got down to was about 11%.
<b>Losing that many pounds, that quick, just has to be totally unhealthy IMO.
That depends on your starting weight. If a person is 80 or 100 pounds over weight than losing 30 is not that startling.