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oubronco
11-03-2010, 05:56 PM
11 Patrick Ramsey QB 6-3 225 02-14-1979 7 Tulane

14 Brandon Stokley WR 5-11 192 06-23-1976 10 Louisiana-Lafayette

19 Edell Shepherd WR 6-1 175 05-18-1980 4 San Jose State

21 Hamza Abdullah S 6-2 216 08-20-1983 4 Washington State

23 Andre Hall RB 5-10 212 08-20-1982 2 South Florida

28 Michael Pittman RB 6-0 225 08-14-1975 11 Fresno State

33 Marquand Manuel S 6-0 213 07-11-1979 7 Florida

35 Selvin Young RB 5-11 215 10-01-1983 2 Texas

37 Calvin Lowry S 5-11 200 02-13-1983 3 Penn State

37 Cecil Sapp RB 5-11 229 12-23-1978 6 Colorado State

41 Karl Paymah CB 6-0 195 11-29-1982 4 Washington State

52 Louis Green LB 6-3 237 09-23-1979 5 Alcorn State

53 Niko Koutouvides LB 6-2 238 03-25-1981 5 Purdue

58 Nate Webster LB 6-0 232 11-29-1977 9 Miami (FL)

60 John Engelberger DE 6-4 260 10-18-1976 9 Virginia Tech

62 Casey Wiegmann C 6-2 285 07-20-1973 13 Iowa

63 Dewayne Robertson DT 6-1 317 10-16-1981 6 Kentucky

64 Erik Pears T 6-8 305 06-25-1982 3 Colorado State

65 Dylan Gandy G 6-3 290 03-08-1982 4 Texas Tech

66 Tom Nalen C 6-3 286 05-13-1971 15 Boston College

81 Nate Jackson TE 6-3 235 06-04-1979 6 Menlo

82 Darrell Jackson WR 5-11 210 12-06-1978 9 Florida

85 Keary Colbert WR 6-1 205 05-21-1982 5 USC

90 Kenny Peterson DT 6-3 300 11-21-1978 6 Ohio State

91 Ebenezer Ekuban DE 6-4 275 05-29-1976 10 North Carolina

93 Nic Clemons DT 6-6 300 02-03-1980 2 Georgia

95 Josh Shaw DT 6-2 290 09-07-1979 5 Michigan State

97 Boss Bailey LB 6-3 235 10-14-1979 6 Georgia

Baba Booey
11-03-2010, 06:00 PM
Selvin

broncocalijohn
11-03-2010, 06:00 PM
66 Tom Nalen. Easy choice.

Aftermath
11-03-2010, 06:05 PM
85 Keary Colbert WR 6-1 205 05-21-1982 5 USC

JLine27
11-03-2010, 06:06 PM
I had been trying to block Boss Bailey from any memory in a Broncos uniform...

oubronco
11-03-2010, 06:06 PM
66 Tom Nalen. Easy choice.

Yea I thought about not putting Nalen and Stokely but thought what the hell but it is a pretty ugly lineup though

JLine27
11-03-2010, 06:12 PM
Yea I thought about not putting Nalen and Stokely but thought what the hell but it is a pretty ugly lineup though

Ugly to say the least.

Speaking of, my Mom called me last week to tell me she just read an article in the New York Times on concussions by none other then Nate Jackson.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/opinion/24jackson.html

rbackfactory80
11-03-2010, 06:22 PM
Nalen, but I did always have a soft spot for Robertson. His body was shot but he played every game. He needed the money knowing his career would be short.

OBF1
11-03-2010, 06:24 PM
Tom Nalen, the rest ehhh

baja
11-03-2010, 06:28 PM
Nails but I get your point

DBroncos4life
11-03-2010, 08:12 PM
I miss a coach that could win games with **** for talent.

Los Broncos
11-03-2010, 08:15 PM
Nails hands down.

WolfpackGuy
11-03-2010, 08:16 PM
I miss Nate Webster's helmet flying off at least 10 games a game.

tsiguy96
11-03-2010, 08:19 PM
I miss a coach that could win games with **** for talent.

what about the coach that brought that **** talent in Hilarious!

uplink
11-03-2010, 08:24 PM
A future ring of famer in Nalen and a bunch of light weights, it would be more interesting without Nalen in the mix.

DBroncos4life
11-03-2010, 08:24 PM
what about the coach that brought that **** talent in Hilarious!

I'm tired of 2-6. I'm tired of not being able to beat a AFC west team at ****ing home. I can give two ****s and a **** about what Mike did or couldn't do in the past. Right now we have a coach that can't win games that we should win. Why posters keep trying to pin **** on Mike now is beyond me.

tsiguy96
11-03-2010, 08:26 PM
I'm tired of 2-6. I'm tired of not being able to beat a AFC west team at ****ing home. I can give two ****s and a **** about what Mike did or couldn't do in the past. Right now we have a coach that can't win games that we should win. Why posters keep trying to pin **** on Mike now is beyond me.

you have some major revisionist history going on. you are so concerned with beating AFCW teams that you dont care if teh team does anything else all season. a team can be 6-0 against division rivals, they are still sitting their asses at home watching playoffs like everyone else. does mcdaniels have a great record this year? absolutely not, but guess what, we will be where we were the last 4 years under shanahan, sitting at home.

Killericon
11-03-2010, 08:27 PM
Nails, followed by DeWayne. I'm still convinced he was a decent 4-3 DT.

strafen
11-03-2010, 08:32 PM
11 Patrick Ramsey QB 6-3 225 02-14-1979 7 Tulane

14 Brandon Stokley WR 5-11 192 06-23-1976 10 Louisiana-Lafayette

19 Edell Shepherd WR 6-1 175 05-18-1980 4 San Jose State

21 Hamza Abdullah S 6-2 216 08-20-1983 4 Washington State

23 Andre Hall RB 5-10 212 08-20-1982 2 South Florida

28 Michael Pittman RB 6-0 225 08-14-1975 11 Fresno State

33 Marquand Manuel S 6-0 213 07-11-1979 7 Florida

35 Selvin Young RB 5-11 215 10-01-1983 2 Texas

37 Calvin Lowry S 5-11 200 02-13-1983 3 Penn State

37 Cecil Sapp RB 5-11 229 12-23-1978 6 Colorado State

41 Karl Paymah CB 6-0 195 11-29-1982 4 Washington State

52 Louis Green LB 6-3 237 09-23-1979 5 Alcorn State

53 Niko Koutouvides LB 6-2 238 03-25-1981 5 Purdue

58 Nate Webster LB 6-0 232 11-29-1977 9 Miami (FL)

60 John Engelberger DE 6-4 260 10-18-1976 9 Virginia Tech

62 Casey Wiegmann C 6-2 285 07-20-1973 13 Iowa

63 Dewayne Robertson DT 6-1 317 10-16-1981 6 Kentucky

64 Erik Pears T 6-8 305 06-25-1982 3 Colorado State

65 Dylan Gandy G 6-3 290 03-08-1982 4 Texas Tech

66 Tom Nalen C 6-3 286 05-13-1971 15 Boston College

81 Nate Jackson TE 6-3 235 06-04-1979 6 Menlo

82 Darrell Jackson WR 5-11 210 12-06-1978 9 Florida

85 Keary Colbert WR 6-1 205 05-21-1982 5 USC

90 Kenny Peterson DT 6-3 300 11-21-1978 6 Ohio State

91 Ebenezer Ekuban DE 6-4 275 05-29-1976 10 North Carolina

93 Nic Clemons DT 6-6 300 02-03-1980 2 Georgia

95 Josh Shaw DT 6-2 290 09-07-1979 5 Michigan State

97 Boss Bailey LB 6-3 235 10-14-1979 6 Georgia

And your point is?

DBroncos4life
11-03-2010, 08:39 PM
you have some major revisionist history going on. you are so concerned with beating AFCW teams that you dont care if teh team does anything else all season. a team can be 6-0 against division rivals, they are still sitting their asses at home watching playoffs like everyone else. does mcdaniels have a great record this year? absolutely not, but guess what, we will be where we were the last 4 years under shanahan, sitting at home.

No I do not. Shanahan wasn't getting it done but I'm going to let you guys sit here and try to spin it like he was doing worse then McD. I guess you well if we don't win we might as well just really suck fans are better then me. ****ing super fans.

KS Bronco
11-03-2010, 08:40 PM
Nalen, but Ron Dayne ran tough for us when he got the chance.
EXCITED for our current Broncos though! Future looks promising (not just saying that relative to the present)

mkporter
11-03-2010, 08:42 PM
11 Patrick Ramsey QB 6-3 225 02-14-1979 7 Tulane

14 Brandon Stokley WR 5-11 192 06-23-1976 10 Louisiana-Lafayette

19 Edell Shepherd WR 6-1 175 05-18-1980 4 San Jose State

21 Hamza Abdullah S 6-2 216 08-20-1983 4 Washington State

23 Andre Hall RB 5-10 212 08-20-1982 2 South Florida

28 Michael Pittman RB 6-0 225 08-14-1975 11 Fresno State

33 Marquand Manuel S 6-0 213 07-11-1979 7 Florida

35 Selvin Young RB 5-11 215 10-01-1983 2 Texas

37 Calvin Lowry S 5-11 200 02-13-1983 3 Penn State

37 Cecil Sapp RB 5-11 229 12-23-1978 6 Colorado State

41 Karl Paymah CB 6-0 195 11-29-1982 4 Washington State

52 Louis Green LB 6-3 237 09-23-1979 5 Alcorn State

53 Niko Koutouvides LB 6-2 238 03-25-1981 5 Purdue

58 Nate Webster LB 6-0 232 11-29-1977 9 Miami (FL)

60 John Engelberger DE 6-4 260 10-18-1976 9 Virginia Tech

62 Casey Wiegmann C 6-2 285 07-20-1973 13 Iowa

63 Dewayne Robertson DT 6-1 317 10-16-1981 6 Kentucky

64 Erik Pears T 6-8 305 06-25-1982 3 Colorado State

65 Dylan Gandy G 6-3 290 03-08-1982 4 Texas Tech

66 Tom Nalen C 6-3 286 05-13-1971 15 Boston College

81 Nate Jackson TE 6-3 235 06-04-1979 6 Menlo

82 Darrell Jackson WR 5-11 210 12-06-1978 9 Florida

85 Keary Colbert WR 6-1 205 05-21-1982 5 USC

90 Kenny Peterson DT 6-3 300 11-21-1978 6 Ohio State

91 Ebenezer Ekuban DE 6-4 275 05-29-1976 10 North Carolina

93 Nic Clemons DT 6-6 300 02-03-1980 2 Georgia

95 Josh Shaw DT 6-2 290 09-07-1979 5 Michigan State

97 Boss Bailey LB 6-3 235 10-14-1979 6 Georgia

Nails. I really miss Nails.

BroncoBuff
11-03-2010, 09:00 PM
Chris Simms.

Dedhed
11-03-2010, 09:01 PM
66 Tom Nalen. Easy choice.

Yup. Other than Nalen that list is gross.

Popps
11-03-2010, 09:05 PM
Frightening, truly frightening.

briane
11-03-2010, 09:13 PM
I miss Maurice Clarett, Daryl Gardener, Triandos Luke and Darius Watts.

strafen
11-03-2010, 09:18 PM
you have some major revisionist history going on. you are so concerned with beating AFCW teams that you dont care if teh team does anything else all season. a team can be 6-0 against division rivals, they are still sitting their asses at home watching playoffs like everyone else. does mcdaniels have a great record this year? absolutely not, but guess what, we will be where we were the last 4 years under shanahan, sitting at home.Did you read what he said?
He's saying "we can't even beat division rivals. He said we can't even win games we should win."
You can't argue that.

Now, you've said: "a team can be 6-0 against division rivals, they are still sitting their asses at home watching playoffs like everyone else. does mcdaniels have a great record this year? absolutely not, but guess what, we will be where we were the last 4 years under shanahan, sitting at home."
Well, like you, I have higher expectations from the Broncos. And we held Shanahan to the highest expectation level, and that is, we expected championships.
I don't know if any other coach in Broncos history could've brought 2 World titles to our city. Shanahan gave it to us. We should be thankful for the guy and what he meant for us fans that enjoyed at one point being world champions.
Yeah, Shanny didn't do much in the last ten years. He lost talent like; Zimmermann, Nalen, Habib, Tony Jones, Stink (Mark Schereleth), Steve Atwater, TD, Romo, Neil Smith, H. Griffith, Rod, Eddie, Sharpe, and John Elway, etc... (long list)
That was a team loaded with talent. Well, we lost all of them, and to replace a team like that, takes a lot of work, and while it seems Shanahan ran out of time, he still put a quality product on the field, Sunday in and Sunday out. Never during that time, did we ever smell mediocrity-

Bashing Shanahan doesn't change our present reality...

TheReverend
11-03-2010, 09:19 PM
what about the coach that brought that **** talent in Hilarious!

What about the coach that brings in **** talent AND can't win?

randomtask
11-03-2010, 09:43 PM
Nalen by a mile. Top 3 center for all but his 1st and last year.

Archer81
11-03-2010, 09:47 PM
Nalen, followed by Stokely.

Rest of them...ehh.

:Broncos:

BoulderBum
11-03-2010, 10:59 PM
Can we put Hochstein on there now?

listopencil
11-03-2010, 11:05 PM
66 Tom Nalen C 6-3 286 05-13-1971 15 Boston College

then


14 Brandon Stokley WR 5-11 192 06-23-1976 10 Louisiana-Lafayette

Quoydogs
11-03-2010, 11:46 PM
I had been trying to block Boss Bailey from any memory in a Broncos uniform...

He was heart so much, he wasn't in one much .

That is if you are a glasses half full kinda guy.

Caveat Lector
11-04-2010, 04:28 AM
I actually thought Pittman ran OK when he was here. That year we went through about 17 RBs he was just about the best of them... til he got hurt...

chanesaw
11-04-2010, 05:52 AM
I will take them all back plus Shanny and everbody else because we were never this bad when they were here.

Champagne Powder
11-04-2010, 05:58 AM
Those players won twice as many games that the current coach is projected to get this year.

THE719!
11-04-2010, 06:41 AM
I will go with the ladder and say Al Wilson

LonghornBronco
11-04-2010, 06:50 AM
66 Tom Nalen. Easy choice.

+1 :strong:

orangemonkey
11-04-2010, 06:52 AM
I will take them all back plus Shanny and everbody else because we were never this bad when they were here.

Precisely. McD and company really do suck compared to Shanny. Just wow.

LonghornBronco
11-04-2010, 06:57 AM
Cecil the Diesel...

Where are they now?

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oubronco
11-04-2010, 07:09 AM
And your point is?

Shanny's talented players don't look so good looking back do they?

jhns
11-04-2010, 07:32 AM
What is funny is this team is a LOT worse than that team and that team had just as many injuries. I would say I miss all of them. .500 is looking pretty good right now.

LittleFloyd
11-04-2010, 08:12 AM
I really miss Jarvis Moss. I wish he could come back and play.

maher_tyler
11-04-2010, 08:25 AM
66 Tom Nalen. Easy choice.

This!

maher_tyler
11-04-2010, 08:27 AM
I really miss Jarvis Moss. I wish he could come back and play.

Who the **** is Jarvis Moss??

Beantown Bronco
11-04-2010, 08:42 AM
you have some major revisionist history going on. you are so concerned with beating AFCW teams that you dont care if teh team does anything else all season. a team can be 6-0 against division rivals, they are still sitting their asses at home watching playoffs like everyone else.

6-0 against the division and somehow missing the playoffs? I'd like to see the Vegas odds of that happening.

jhns
11-04-2010, 08:57 AM
Shanny's talented players don't look so good looking back do they?

Yeah, no talent...

Brett Kern
Jay Cutler
Tony Sheffler
Peyton Hillis
Brandon Marshall
Chris Kuper
Ryan Clady
Ryan Harris
Daniel Graham
Spencer Larsen
DJ Williams
Champ Bailey
Marcus Thomas
Ryan Torain
Tyler Polumbus
Casey Wiegman
Ben Hamilton
Mario Haggan
Matt Prater
Wesley Woodyard
Jarvis Moss
Elvis Dumervil
Eddie Royal
Karl Paymah
Kory Lichtensteiger
Brandon Stokley
Dre Bly
Tim Crowder
Mike Leach
Anthony Alridge
Jack Williams
Niko Koutouvides
Erik Pears
Kenny Peterson
Jamie Winborn
Tom Nalen

Do you notice anything about this list? It is pretty easy to see that most all of our current best players are on it. This team was a lot better than the current product being put out on the field.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-04-2010, 09:01 AM
I miss my grandpa.

ScottXray
11-04-2010, 11:31 AM
66 Tom Nalen C 6-3 286 05-13-1971 15 Boston College

Off that list THIS..(when he was healthy)

Too bad players get old and injured.

baja
11-04-2010, 10:15 PM
And your point is?

Shanny brought in a bunch of crappy players?

strafen
11-04-2010, 10:21 PM
Shanny's talented players don't look so good looking back do they?

That's relative, isn't it?
"Shanny's talented players don't look so good"
As relative to what?

strafen
11-04-2010, 10:24 PM
Shanny brought in a bunch of crappy players?Like most of the ones currently on our roster that played for Shanahan?
Are you talking about those crappy players?

bowtown
11-04-2010, 10:24 PM
53 Niko Koutouvides LB 6-2 238 03-25-1981 5 Purdue

97 Boss Bailey LB 6-3 235 10-14-1979 6 Georgia

58 Nate Webster LB 6-0 232 11-29-1977 9 Miami (FL)


The Greek, the Gimp and the Guillotine, my 3 Musketeers.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-04-2010, 10:27 PM
The Greek, the Gimp and the Guillotine, my 3 Musketeers.

I loled a good lol. I do miss Nate and his flying hat.

baja
11-04-2010, 10:27 PM
Like most of the ones currently on our roster that played for Shanahan?
Are you talking about those crappy players?

No, I am referring to the 32 guys selling shoes.

The reason I posted in the first place to clarify what should have obvious to you. Most everyone got it ya know.

2KBack
11-04-2010, 10:31 PM
Like most of the ones currently on our roster that played for Shanahan?
Are you talking about those crappy players?

I wouldn't say most. Maybe 7 starters of the current 22 played on the 2008 team

strafen
11-04-2010, 10:41 PM
No, I am referring to the 32 guys selling shoes.

The reason I posted in the first place to clarify what should have obvious to you. Most everyone got it ya know.Considering that McDaniels scraped the bottom of the heap pile to get some of our current players that otherwise would also be unemployed, I now see what you did there...

Funny how all of our starting offensive players outside the OL are all starting for other teams right now...

strafen
11-04-2010, 10:46 PM
I wouldn't say most. Maybe 7 starters of the current 22 played on the 2008 team

DJ Williams, Clady, Harris, Kuper, Champ, Royal, Prater, Woodyard, Graham, Hagan, Dumervil
That's ten starters right there...

TheReverend
11-04-2010, 10:47 PM
I wouldn't say most. Maybe 7 starters of the current 22 played on the 2008 team

Starters that started or were slated to start pre injury.

Clady
Kuper
Graham
Royal
Marcus Thomas
DJ
Haggan
Bailey
(Elvis)
(Harris)
(Larsen)

TheReverend
11-04-2010, 10:48 PM
^ Threw Larsen in parenthesis because it's kind of a technicality whether he starts or Eddie does or a TE does or... you get the point.

baja
11-04-2010, 10:50 PM
Considering that McDaniels scraped the bottom of the heap pile to get some of our current players that otherwise would also be unemployed, I now see what you did there...

Funny how all of our starting offensive players outside the OL are all starting for other teams right now...

You mean the ones we got 2 1's 2 2's a 3 and a 5th + whatever Tony brought.

bowtown
11-04-2010, 10:51 PM
^ Threw Larsen in parenthesis because it's kind of a technicality whether he starts or Eddie does or a TE does or... you get the point.

I think McBean should be on there as well, or was he only PS in 08? You also left Prater off, not for nothing.

strafen
11-04-2010, 10:54 PM
You mean the ones we got 2 1's 2 2's a 3 and a 5th + whatever Tony brought.And what did we make that into?
I'll tell you what it turned into. It turned into squandered opportunities to improve the team.

TheReverend
11-04-2010, 10:54 PM
I think McBean should be on there as well, or was he only PS in 08? You also left Prater off, not for nothing.

Kicking is for girls. No way he counts.

McBean got supplanted by Marcus Thomas AND then Vickerson so it's kinda already counted.

baja
11-04-2010, 10:57 PM
And what did we make that into?
I'll tell you what it turned into. It turned into squandered opportunities to improve the team.

That's not relevant to your point you failed to make.

2KBack
11-04-2010, 11:14 PM
^ Threw Larsen in parenthesis because it's kind of a technicality whether he starts or Eddie does or a TE does or... you get the point.

Yeah, I completely forgot about Haggan and glossed over Larsen, still isn't much of a "most."

Of course, is anyone arguing that McD was supposed to have a 100% roster turnover? I'd say 50% in 2 seasons is quite a bit.

strafen
11-04-2010, 11:52 PM
That's not relevant to your point you failed to make.I'm counterattacking your point, bud.
You're bragging about the picks we got from those players. Good players if we got that much value from them in return.
Now, my question is, what do we have to show for?

Popps
11-05-2010, 12:06 AM
Yeah, I completely forgot about Haggan and glossed over Larsen, still isn't much of a "most."

Of course, is anyone arguing that McD was supposed to have a 100% roster turnover? I'd say 50% in 2 seasons is quite a bit.

I did the math on this a while back and can't recall, but I think Shanahan did similar numbers or more his first two seasons.

50% is indeed a lot of players, and it's indicative of just how bad of shape a team is in.

Does anyone think Tomlin had to flip over half of his starting roster to when he took over?

strafen
11-05-2010, 12:17 AM
I did the math on this a while back and can't recall, but I think Shanahan did similar numbers or more his first two seasons.

50% is indeed a lot of players, and it's indicative of just how bad of shape a team is in.

Does anyone think Tomlin had to flip over half of his starting roster to when he took over?

Shanahan has accomplished a whole lot more than McDaniels ever hopes to accomplish as a head coach.
Again, you guys need to determine McDaniels' place in the 2009 Head Coaching class.
You know, Spagnuolo, Raheem Morris, Rex Ryan, Todd Haley.
Those guys should be the measuring stick by which you gauge Josh McDaniels progress. Not trying to justify his failures by selectively recalling Shanahan not-so great moves.
Nonetheless, we never sniffed mediocrity under Shanahan, nor do I think we're better off right now by a long shot...

Bob's your Information Minister
11-05-2010, 12:29 AM
I was assured by Broncos fans on this very board that Hamza Abdullah, Selvin Young, John Engelberger, Erik Pears, Ebenezer Ekuban and Boss Bailey were all ****ing studs who were going to destroy the Chiefs for years to come, so I am very grateful all of them passed on the lucrative multi-year deals Denver surely offered them.

tsiguy96
11-05-2010, 12:37 AM
I was assured by Broncos fans on this very board that Hamza Abdullah, Selvin Young, John Engelberger, Erik Pears, Ebenezer Ekuban and Boss Bailey were all ****ing studs who were going to destroy the Chiefs for years to come, so I am very grateful all of them passed on the lucrative multi-year deals Denver surely offered them.

ebenezer was pretty damn good here from what i recall. selvin young was definitely a pretty good RB, surprised he never got another shot.

boss bailey, we all missed on him pretty bad.