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The MVPlaya
11-02-2010, 03:07 PM
Yeah... you know because McDaniels tore the offensive line apart and all from what we had in 08... yeah... you know...Hilarious!

http://blog.seahawks.com/2010/11/02/bryant-hamilton-to-ir/


The Seahawks placed both players on injured reserve today, Bryant because of knee injury and Hamilton because of what coach Pete Carroll called a “pretty significant” concussion.

EDIT

Due to the dumb assness of members on this forum I need to add that I appreciate Ben Hamilton's hard work and all his great years in Denver. In no way am I happy that Ben Hamilton got injured or put on IR. I understand that this type of injury affects his life every day and in the long term along with his family.

Thank you Ben Hamilton for all your services for the Denver Broncos. Get well soon, you will always be a Bronco.

I thought this would be pretty obvious - but you guys are obviously not very intelligent nor are you capable of extracting main ideas out of context.

Killericon
11-02-2010, 03:10 PM
Ben is done, I think. Great career, great player. Wish him all the best.

24champ
11-02-2010, 03:13 PM
That sucks, Hamilton had a rough time with the concussion symptoms. Pretty sad story, and hope he gets well for his family's sake.

oubronco
11-02-2010, 03:18 PM
I don't see what's so funny about a guy getting significant brain trauma

_Oro_
11-02-2010, 03:21 PM
I don't see what's so funny about a guy getting significant brain trauma

Yup. Our own Perrish Cox can't remember the Raider game... that he played in.

Popps
11-02-2010, 03:22 PM
Yup. Our own Perrish Cox can't remember the Raider game... that he played in.

... and yet people on this board want to defend helmet-to-helmet hits.

I mean, concussions are an unavoidable risk of the profession. Still, more needs to be done to protect these guys. It's just not worth it.

baja
11-02-2010, 03:23 PM
Yeah... you know because McDaniels tore the offensive line apart and all from what we had in 08... yeah... you know...Hilarious!

http://blog.seahawks.com/2010/11/02/bryant-hamilton-to-ir/


The Seahawks placed both players on injured reserve today, Bryant because of knee injury and Hamilton because of what coach Pete Carroll called a “pretty significant” concussion.

What do these Seahawks injuries in 2010 have to do with anything Josh McDaniels? And why is that funny?

The MVPlaya
11-02-2010, 03:26 PM
What do these Seahawks injuries in 2010 have to do with anything Josh McDaniels? And why is that funny?

Because Ben Hamilton played for us in 2008 and 2009 and people here have claimed that he tore that amazing line apart from 08? Were you not able to connect the dots?

Te be fair, this has been an on going issue with Hamilton, it's nothing new.

And people who think I'm laughing at Ben Hamilton are just looking for something new to cry about... you guys can't be this stupid.

But it's all good, when Moreno gets injured we can poke at that.

baja
11-02-2010, 03:31 PM
Because Ben Hamilton played for us in 2008 and 2009 and people here have claimed that he tore that amazing line apart from 08? Were you not able to connect the dots?

Te be fair, this has been an on going issue with Hamilton, it's nothing new.

And people who think I'm laughing at Ben Hamilton are just looking for something new to cry about... you guys can't be this stupid.

But it's all good, when Moreno gets injured we can poke at that.

yes I know Hamilton played for us but I fail to see how yet another concussion for the poor fellow vindicates or condemns anything. Did we know he was going to get a career ending injury? Maybe I'm just not smart enough.

The MVPlaya
11-02-2010, 03:33 PM
Let me add, I didn't see the Ben Hamilton injury but the Perrish Cox one had nothing to do with a helmet to helmet... that play was unavoidable and a complete accident. THAT was just part of playing football.

Ben Hamilton is an olineman, this guy isn't getting tackled, or tackling anybody all game long... really has nothing to do with the big plays that create concussions or the new trend of big hits of concern.

I don't think many people are defending helmet to helmet hits, head hunters like Harrison... people are just defending big hits that cause injuries.

The MVPlaya
11-02-2010, 03:35 PM
yes I know Hamilton played for us but I fail to see how yet another concussion for the poor fellow vindicates or condemns anything. Did we know he was going to get a career ending injury? Maybe I'm just not smart enough.

No we did not, nor did we know Alphonso Smith was going to actually play at a high level. But we discuss it.

But the fact that this HAS happened kind of puts those statements of McDaniels tearing this oline apart to dust... it really makes no sense because we all knew we needed interior linemen during the 09 season. But somehow, McDaniels still tore that 08 line apart.

baja
11-02-2010, 03:36 PM
Let me add, I didn't see the Ben Hamilton injury but the Perrish Cox one had nothing to do with a helmet to helmet... that play was unavoidable and a complete accident. THAT was just part of playing football.

Ben Hamilton is an olineman, this guy isn't getting tackled, or tackling anybody all game long... really has nothing to do with the big plays that create concussions or the new trend of big hits of concern.

I don't think many people are defending helmet to helmet hits, head hunters like Harrison...<b> people are just defending big hits that cause injuries.

Oh OK got it. It's true than I'm not smart enough. ???

That One Guy
11-02-2010, 03:39 PM
Did I miss the part where ANYONE said Hamilton needed to come back after his last season? It was pretty clear he was done.

strafen
11-02-2010, 03:45 PM
No we did not, nor did we know Alphonso Smith was going to actually play at a high level. But we discuss it.

But the fact that this HAS happened kind of puts those statements of McDaniels tearing this oline apart to dust... it really makes no sense because we all knew we needed interior linemen during the 09 season. But somehow, McDaniels still tore that 08 line apart.
You're the ultimate moron, dude!

baja
11-02-2010, 03:48 PM
No we did not, nor did we know Alphonso Smith was going to actually play at a high level. But we discuss it.

But the fact that this HAS happened kind of puts those statements of McDaniels tearing this oline apart to dust... it really makes no sense because<b> we all knew we needed interior linemen during the 09 season. But somehow, McDaniels still tore that 08 line apart.

OK now I really do see what you are getting at but I think everyone pretty much agreed Ben was done.

The MVPlaya
11-02-2010, 03:52 PM
You're the ultimate moron, dude!

With the options of go_broncos, jhns, bob, and more... you choose me as your successor?

Sorry bro, I think that alone deserves another year for you.

fontaine
11-02-2010, 03:55 PM
My best wishes go out to Ben. He was one of the best we had when healthy. Hopefully he can come out of this with his health for his family's sake.

BroncoDoug
11-02-2010, 03:59 PM
Yup. Our own Perrish Cox can't remember the Raider game... that he played in.

I wish I didn't have to remember that game either...

TheReverend
11-02-2010, 04:02 PM
Completely disgusted with the original post.

Great career, Ben, but it's time to hang em up. You already missed one full season due to a concussion. After this one you're just playing with fire. Thanks for the memories!

Steve Prefontaine
11-02-2010, 04:05 PM
I don't see what's so funny about a guy getting significant brain trauma
this. sucks to see all these guys suffering from concussions around the nfl.

yerner
11-02-2010, 04:18 PM
Let me add, I didn't see the Ben Hamilton injury but the Perrish Cox one had nothing to do with a helmet to helmet... that play was unavoidable and a complete accident. THAT was just part of playing football.

Ben Hamilton is an olineman, this guy isn't getting tackled, or tackling anybody all game long... really has nothing to do with the big plays that create concussions or the new trend of big hits of concern.

I don't think many people are defending helmet to helmet hits, head hunters like Harrison... people are just defending big hits that cause injuries.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You obviously have not read a single piece of new literature on concussions. Even last week Sports Illistrated pointed out that brain damage does not nessasarily have anything to do with 'big plays' but is often a result of many hits 'chipping away' brain cells, the very type of plays that offensive lineman have every play that result in the most serious damage. That is to say it's complicated and serious. Please stop being so flippant on a players health and quality of life.

The MVPlaya
11-02-2010, 07:37 PM
You have no idea what you are talking about. You obviously have not read a single piece of new literature on concussions. Even last week Sports Illistrated pointed out that brain damage does not nessasarily have anything to do with 'big plays' but is often a result of many hits 'chipping away' brain cells, the very type of plays that offensive lineman have every play that result in the most serious damage. That is to say it's complicated and serious. Please stop being so flippant on a players health and quality of life.

What the **** are you talking about? Where in my post was I being filppant on a players healthy and quality of life?

ZachKC
11-02-2010, 07:39 PM
Original post comes off like a total dick.

Not surprised though.

epicSocialism4tw
11-02-2010, 07:50 PM
Yeah... you know because McDaniels tore the offensive line apart and all from what we had in 08... yeah... you know...Hilarious!

http://blog.seahawks.com/2010/11/02/bryant-hamilton-to-ir/


The Seahawks placed both players on injured reserve today, Bryant because of knee injury and Hamilton because of what coach Pete Carroll called a “pretty significant” concussion.

Hamilton gave us Broncos fans alot to cheer about for a long time.

Its not cool at all to celebrate his continuted brain injuries.

bowtown
11-02-2010, 07:53 PM
For awhile Hams was considered one of the best technicians in the NFL. Hope he is okay and recovers fully.

serious hops
11-02-2010, 08:18 PM
Echoing the other sentiments, best wishes to Ben. Dude was a technician, he was fun to watch in his prime-- he and Lepsis used to blow open some gigantic holes on the left side of that line. Gah, it's almost painful to remember at this point. Ben had a damn good run for an undersized, mid-round OL. I hope he can walk away satisfied.

broncosteven
11-02-2010, 08:18 PM
Original post comes off like a total dick.

Not surprised though.

Before or after he edited it?

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2010, 08:20 PM
I was glad he was cut, but in retrospect hewas a heck of a player. Take care Ben. You only get one.

The MVPlaya
11-02-2010, 08:32 PM
I was glad he was cut.

oh no, God FORBID you are wishing someone on your team to get cut so he longer has a job....

baja
11-02-2010, 09:35 PM
oh no, God FORBID you are wishing someone on your team to get cut so he longer has a job....

You just don't get it do you.

Requiem
11-02-2010, 09:41 PM
Best wishes to Ben and his family as he embarks on his journey of life after the gridiron.

RaiderH8r
11-02-2010, 09:47 PM
Yup. Our own Perrish Cox can't remember the Raider game... that he played in.

To be fair, nobody wants to remember the Raider game.

TheReverend
11-02-2010, 10:40 PM
I was glad he was cut, but in retrospect hewas a heck of a player. Take care Ben. You only get one.

He was traded, fyi

Florida_Bronco
11-02-2010, 11:13 PM
He was traded, fyi

Actually you're both wrong. Hamilton's contract expired after the 2009 season.

The MVPlaya
11-03-2010, 12:04 AM
You just don't get it do you.

there is nothing TO get... people just overreact for no reason.

TheReverend
11-03-2010, 01:08 AM
Actually you're both wrong. Hamilton's contract expired after the 2009 season.

Holy crap. Thank you. For some reason I had it in my head that we traded him for a 6th. I have no idea where that came from... lol. Thanks for the correction.

The Joker
11-03-2010, 02:59 AM
Didn't we trade Montrae Holland for a 6th? Could be where that notion comes from.

Anyway, that sucks for Ben and I really hope he hangs them up after this year. He's had a great career and the head injuries are really piling up over the last few years. Guy needs to quit for his own sake.

MVP Playa, the reason people are having a go at you is that you're using this news as a way to score some miserable little point in the ongoing McDaniels debate.

The real story here is that Ben Hamilton, a tremendous servant to our team for many years, has suffered an apparently quite serious head injury and may be finished in the NFL. Using it to make some sort of limp little point that McDaniels was right to let him go and having a nice laugh about it doesn't really reflect well on you as a Bronco fan, or as a person.

If you need it explained any further to you, I don't think I or anyone else can really help you to be honest.

The MVPlaya
11-03-2010, 03:52 AM
Didn't we trade Montrae Holland for a 6th? Could be where that notion comes from.

Anyway, that sucks for Ben and I really hope he hangs them up after this year. He's had a great career and the head injuries are really piling up over the last few years. Guy needs to quit for his own sake.

MVP Playa, the reason people are having a go at you is that you're using this news as a way to score some miserable little point in the ongoing McDaniels debate.

The real story here is that Ben Hamilton, a tremendous servant to our team for many years, has suffered an apparently quite serious head injury and may be finished in the NFL. Using it to make some sort of limp little point that McDaniels was right to let him go and having a nice laugh about it doesn't really reflect well on you as a Bronco fan, or as a person.

If you need it explained any further to you, I don't think I or anyone else can really help you to be honest.

I don't use these forums in order to build a reflection of me as a person.

I know exactly why people are going at me.

Like I said people are always looking to overreact. Anyone who thinks that I don't give a damn about Hamilton, or any other Bronco fan is completely retarded. TBH, it's the smily that set it off. If I didn't put it there, it wouldn't have been that serious. Go look back @ how people asked how it was "funny." That's how retarded people are, over a ****ing smiley.

It's not different really than people saying that they're glad he was cut. People get way too caught up in words and not the meaning behind it.

Like I said though, it's cool to talk **** when players like Knowshon Moreno get injured.

strafen
11-03-2010, 05:57 AM
I don't use these forums in order to build a reflection of me as a person.

I know exactly why people are going at me.

Like I said people are always looking to overreact. Anyone who thinks that I don't give a damn about Hamilton, or any other Bronco fan is completely retarded. TBH, it's the smily that set it off. If I didn't put it there, it wouldn't have been that serious. Go look back @ how people asked how it was "funny." That's how retarded people are, over a ****ing smiley.

It's not different really than people saying that they're glad he was cut. People get way too caught up in words and not the meaning behind it.

Like I said though, it's cool to talk **** when players like Knowshon Moreno get injured.

You just need to be a little humble and honest.
Saying you're sorry for what you've said and MEANT goes a long way in earning some respect.
Too late for your excuses and lame explanations. You're making it worse.
If you're not going to apologize, at least don't keep adding anything else to the subject...

McSchism nailed it when he said: "MVP Playa, the reason people are having a go at you is that you're using this news as a way to score some miserable little point in the ongoing McDaniels debate."

jhns
11-03-2010, 06:19 AM
Hamilton getting injured is proof that McDaniels didn't f the line? That is a new level of stupid, even for this site. First off, who says he gets injured if he is here? Was it just his destiny to have that exact situation happen no matter where he was at the time? Second, is our blocking better or worse? I would say that is all the proof you need on what McDaniels has done with the line. You have to be a pretty big douche to laugh about a former player getting injured...

baja
11-03-2010, 06:22 AM
there is nothing TO get... people just overreact for no reason.

And so many of them too. Go figure.

missingnumber7
11-03-2010, 06:23 AM
Its not supprising we are starting to see more OL and DL come down with serious concussion issues. If you get a chance in the next week or so read the articles on Concussions in Sports Illistrated. Its actually an interesting read about some of the research they are doing on brain injury. I am actually part of a military brain injury study from the time I was in Iraq thanks to an IED.

jhns
11-03-2010, 06:25 AM
Oh and BTW, the Seahawks and Chiefs have much better blockin than this line. You want to know what is funny about that and this dumb little fantasy of McDaniels not crapping on the line? Those two teams are(or where) starting the two scape goats from last seasons line. Every player still on our line has looked worse now than they did before McDaniels. Clady was a rookie before McDaniels. Players are not the lines problem. The lines problem is McDaniels and his scheme.

Have a good life Hamilton. You were great for this organization.

barryr
11-03-2010, 06:30 AM
Only bozos believe McDaniels tore the OL apart. Only 2 guys are replaced and neither played that great at the end of their careers. In fact, Hamilton got benched for poor play his last season as a Bronco. Wiegmann just isn't that special a player and I remember quite a few people complaining about his play last year too. Harris can't stay healthy, which was a knock on him in college, so hardly can blame McDaniels for that. Clady is coming off a serious injury and I don't think has fully recovered. If want to blame McDaniels for that, go for it I guess. If someone wants to criticize the coaching the OL is getting, I am for that, but tearing the OL apart? Please.

bowtown
11-03-2010, 06:36 AM
Only bozos believe McDaniels tore the OL apart. Only 2 guys are replaced and neither played that great at the end of their careers. In fact, Hamilton got benched for poor play his last season as a Bronco. Wiegmann just isn't that special a player and I remember quite a few people complaining about his play last year too. Harris can't stay healthy, which was a knock on him in college, so hardly can blame McDaniels for that. Clady is coming off a serious injury and I don't think has fully recovered. If want to blame McDaniels for that, go for it I guess. If someone wants to criticize the coaching the OL is getting, I am for that, but tearing the OL apart? Please.

Don't forget the part where he promoted Rick Dennison to OC in Houston.

jhns
11-03-2010, 06:41 AM
Only bozos believe McDaniels tore the OL apart. Only 2 guys are replaced and neither played that great at the end of their careers. In fact, Hamilton got benched for poor play his last season as a Bronco. Wiegmann just isn't that special a player and I remember quite a few people complaining about his play last year too. Harris can't stay healthy, which was a knock on him in college, so hardly can blame McDaniels for that. Clady is coming off a serious injury and I don't think has fully recovered. If want to blame McDaniels for that, go for it I guess. If someone wants to criticize the coaching the OL is getting, I am for that, but tearing the OL apart? Please.

Both of those scape goats are(where with Hamilton) starting on lines that block much better than this line. Clady, Kuper, and Harris all looked worse the second McDaniels came in (not just after injury as Clady wasn't injured last season).

You guys can claim whatever you want. These linemen are not and were not the problem. The problem has always been McDaniels and his system. It is pretty easy to see when you see Weigman blocking for one of the top lines in football, go to crap when McDaniels shows up, and then goes to a good blocking line again. He didn't just happen to have a horrible year....

barryr
11-03-2010, 06:45 AM
Both of those scape goats are(where with Hamilton) starting on lines that block much better than this line. Clady, Kuper, and Harris all looked worse the second McDaniels came in (not just after injury as Clady wasn't injured last season).

You guys can claim whatever you want. These linemen are not and were not the problem. The problem has always been McDaniels and his system. It is pretty easy to see when you see Weigman blocking for one of the top lines in football, go to crap when McDaniels shows up, and then goes to a good blocking line again. He didn't just happen to have a horrible year....

Sorry, but I actually saw Hamilton whiffing blocks his last season up until he got benched. I don't care what the system is, you can't have that. The Chiefs are fortunate the division is not strong. They have to go overtime at home to beat a winless Bill team and only scored 13 points against that weak team. If winning a game like that proves otherwise to you, have fun.

baja
11-03-2010, 06:52 AM
Oh and BTW, the Seahawks and Chiefs have much better blockin than this line. You want to know what is funny about that and this dumb little fantasy of McDaniels not crapping on the line? Those two teams are(or where) starting the two scape goats from last seasons line. Every player still on our line has looked worse now than they did before McDaniels. Clady was a rookie before McDaniels. Players are not the lines problem. The lines problem is McDaniels and his scheme.

Have a good life Hamilton. You were great for this organization.

This is one area that I agree with the McD haters, a lot of effort and resources were invested in the O line and the line play has regressed. That is very troubling. I understand we lost Dennison because he got a promotion but maybe the guy that replaced him is not that good a coach. Does anyone know anything about the line coach? If Walton is this bad why do we not have an option to playing him. To me this is the biggest black mark against Josh. The line is horrid and getting worse, now they can't pass block either.

jhns
11-03-2010, 06:54 AM
Sorry, but I actually saw Hamilton whiffing blocks his last season up until he got benched. I don't care what the system is, you can't have that. The Chiefs are fortunate the division is not strong. They have to go overtime at home to beat a winless Bill team and only scored 13 points against that weak team. If winning a game like that proves otherwise to you, have fun.

Everyone is whiffing blocks... Again, even Clady has regressed from a killer rookie season from the second McDaniels took over.

I'm not sure what you are claiming with the Bills game. Not one time did you mention how the line played. Have they been running this season? How about passing? Is their QB getting hit every time he drops back? These are measures of the line. Not team results...

By the way, we are in the same crap division. We can't run at all and we can't stop a pass rush at all.

Again, the players aren't the problem.

Ray Finkle
11-03-2010, 07:04 AM
Echoing the other sentiments, best wishes to Ben. Dude was a technician, he was fun to watch in his prime-- he and Lepsis used to blow open some gigantic holes on the left side of that line. Gah, it's almost painful to remember at this point. Ben had a damn good run for an undersized, mid-round OL. I hope he can walk away satisfied.

Exactly.....Great OG that will never get the credit he deserves. I hope he can lead a happy and healthy life.

UberBroncoMan
11-03-2010, 07:23 AM
Ben is done. Best of luck in life.

barryr
11-03-2010, 07:32 AM
Everyone is whiffing blocks... Again, even Clady has regressed from a killer rookie season from the second McDaniels took over.

I'm not sure what you are claiming with the Bills game. Not one time did you mention how the line played. Have they been running this season? How about passing? Is their QB getting hit every time he drops back? These are measures of the line. Not team results...

By the way, we are in the same crap division. We can't run at all and we can't stop a pass rush at all.

Again, the players aren't the problem.

So the players aren't the problem, but you bitch that Wiegmann and Hamilton aren't still around. You make much sense.

Old Dude
11-03-2010, 07:40 AM
My best wishes go out to Ben. He was one of the best we had when healthy. Hopefully he can come out of this with his health for his family's sake.

Ditto.

jhns
11-03-2010, 07:41 AM
So the players aren't the problem, but you b**** that Wiegmann and Hamilton aren't still around. You make much sense.

When did I b**** that they weren't around? I am happy for him that he got to go to a better situation for a while. I am just b****ing about McDaniels and trying to get people to stop throwing players that have done so much for us under the bus. I have this thing where I respect players and coaches that have done good things for this organization. There has been far too much of that just because people want to back a **** coach.

bronco militia
11-03-2010, 07:58 AM
I always thought Ben Hamilton was the week link in the OL.

I was glad to see him get benched last year