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BMarsh615
10-29-2010, 06:41 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/101028&sportCat=nfl

Jake Plummer started it.

After the 2008 season, when Jay Cutler and the Broncos became just the third team in NFL history to blow a three-game lead in the division and miss the playoffs, the former Broncos QB who always seemed to do more with less (he was 40-18 as a starter in Denver) said the physically gifted Cutler (17-20 with the Broncos) was "a helluva player."

"But," Plummer added, "Jeff George was a helluva player."

I picked up on that statement, and in ESPN The Magazine's 2009 NFL preview mentioned the uncanny comparisons between Cutler and George: two can't-miss, Hoosier-born QBs with golden arms and rotten 'tudes. Then, in December, former Ravens coach Brian Billick mentioned that Cutler, who led the league in picks, was starting to feel a little "Jeff George-ish." Pretty soon everyone was wondering if Jay Cutler was indeed the reincarnation of Jeff George, the No. 1 pick overall in 1990 whose attitude and leadership led him to three winning seasons in 12 years with five different teams.

Flem File

The Cutler-George comparisons had just started going away until last week, when Cutler single-handedly blew a game against the Redskins with four horrid interceptions (all to DeAngelo Hall) and a goal-line fumble. It was the 17th time he's thrown multiple picks in a game in 60 career starts.

As if that wasn't bad enough, before the Hall of Fame could even ask for Hall's jersey, Cutler was at the postgame podium in his perma-smirk, spewing what has to be the most asinine, delusional, out-of-touch and arrogant quote of the year. "There's no reason to shy away from Hall," said Cutler. "I mean, that's hard for me to say, throwing four picks at a guy, but I'd still, if we had to play them tomorrow, I'd go at him every time, if we could."

The Washington Post compared Cutler's statement to Napoleon saying he'd invade Russia in the winter every time, if he could.

And so, that night, the comparisons started up again.

On ESPN's Sunday Night Countdown, Cris Carter said: "Great talent in Cutler, but what I'm seeing is the same thing I saw in another great talent, talent undeveloped and the perfect storm. Cutler and Mike Martz equals a guy, Jeff George: Great talent, undeveloped."

So I decided to dig a little deeper and work up a side-by-side comparison between Jay Cutler and Jeff George. And what I found is frightening. Creepy even.

In fact, I think we can all stop arguing about the Jay Cutler-Jeff George connection and, instead, start investigating why no one has ever seen these two in the same room together.

See for yourself.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9821/aviarysportsespngocompi.png
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9821/aviarysportsespngocompi.png
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9821/aviarysportsespngocompi.png

Meck77
10-29-2010, 06:58 AM
From last year. Actually it's like any other Cutler game.

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Ray Finkle
10-29-2010, 07:00 AM
que in the excuse of:

1. He never had a good RB
2. His oline stunk
3. He had poor OC's....

tsiguy96
10-29-2010, 07:04 AM
que in the excuse of:

1. He never had a good RB
2. His oline stunk
3. He had poor OC's....

chicago sun times, after his 4 pick game against washington, said that cutler is very low on the list of chicagos problems, and that most of the picks werent his fault.

Ray Finkle
10-29-2010, 07:12 AM
chicago sun times, after his 4 pick game against washington, said that cutler is very low on the list of chicagos problems, and that most of the picks werent his fault.

the pick 6 to Hall is the only one I'll give him a pass on. The others were just poor choices.

Dagmar
10-29-2010, 07:15 AM
Cutler's issue is arrogance plain and simple, that bull after the game of "I'd keep through at Hall if we played them tomorrow" smacked of rookie arrogance/ignorance. Leinart against Bailey - esque.

Cutler with Orton's attitude = http://i30.tinypic.com/2j35szo.gif

bronco militia
10-29-2010, 07:22 AM
IMO, those were terrible throws. It wouldn't have mattered if Tito Paul was the CB.

don't forget Cutler and Eddie Royal ended Hall's Raider career by braking the NFL yardage record for a rookie WR in 2008.

but oh well...be careful what you wish for Jay

hookemhess
10-29-2010, 07:22 AM
From last year. Actually it's like any other Cutler game.

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This was the worst. His defense held San Fran to 10 points while Cutler manages to throw 5 picks.

baja
10-29-2010, 07:33 AM
That chart is amazing in it's similarity of the two.

I have been calling Cutler Jeff George for years but I never realized they were this similar.

strafen
10-29-2010, 07:38 AM
Loking at that video, is really sad.
Cutler could've had a better career in Denver.
For as much as I was a fan of his, I don't feel that bad after all.
He decided to quit our team and whatever is happening to him right now, it's just karma.

On his last game as a Bronco in the San Diego game where he stunk the joint, the thing I remember the most is that right after the game, Cutler dispappear. He didn't stay for postgame interviews. Nest day he was on his way out of town.
That pissed me off a great deal.
I was hoping the guy would have a better career. So far, it looks like Mel Kiper was right all along...

baja
10-29-2010, 07:43 AM
Loking at that video, is really sad.
Cutler could've had a better career in Denver.
For as much as I was a fan of his, I don't feel that bad after all.
He decided to quit our team and whatever is happening to him right now, it's just karma.

On his last game as a Bronco in the San Diego game where he stunk the joint, the thing I remember the most is that right after the game, Cutler dispappear. He didn't stay for postgame interviews. Nest day he was on his way out of town.
That pissed me off a great deal.
I was hoping the guy would have a better career. So far, it looks like Mel Kiper was right all along...

Weren't you one of the guys slamming the Bronco's organization for trading Cutler and not sucking up to his demands?

Los Broncos
10-29-2010, 07:50 AM
Just leave him alone!

Rock Chalk
10-29-2010, 07:52 AM
I love these threads.

Because I was ****ing right about that nozzle from the start.

**** you all Im never letting it die.

strafen
10-29-2010, 07:52 AM
Weren't you one of the guys slamming the Bronco's organization for trading Cutler and not sucking up to his demands?Yes I was. And who could've envisioned what transpired later on?
Hindsight is 20-20
Nothing wrong with that.
I thought the hiring of McDaniels could've positively influenced Cutler's career, had he remained in Denver.

I have and will always have a great deal of admiration for Mr. Bowlen, and when Mr. Bowlen intervened to try to talk to Cutler in which it appears Cutler never returned his phone calls, that did it for me.

When everything was said and done, and looking back, Cutler did it all to himself. I don't blame him for getting his ego bruised when he found out he was considered to be traded. He is young and he just acted his age.
That being said, he made it easier for me to get over it and move on...

bendog
10-29-2010, 07:54 AM
I love these threads.

Because I was ****ing right about that nozzle from the start.

**** you all Im never letting it die.

Me too. A bunch of homers crying "oh Josh doesn't really suck ...."

Folks, he sucks.

Rohirrim
10-29-2010, 08:04 AM
"Perma-smirk." Hilarious!

bronco militia
10-29-2010, 08:18 AM
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/LOL-CUTLER-SULK.jpg

Br0nc0Buster
10-29-2010, 08:21 AM
when it comes to turning it over, Jay is like a 9 I would say

baja
10-29-2010, 08:24 AM
Yes I was. And who could've envisioned what transpired later on?


There were quite a few of us that were glad to be rid of Cutler early on and ecstatic about what we got for him.

I thought the hiring of McDaniels could've positively influenced Cutler's career, had he remained in Denver.


I agree but only if he took coaching and I suspect the bottom line reason Jay is not here is that while Josh & Jay were together on their honeymoon preseason playbook study sessions Josh realized Jay was a douche and was not gonna buy into Josh's plan of team first football and Jay realized Josh was not going to pamper him like Shanny did and he got ass hurt. I believe they both started to envision life without each other.

Gort
10-29-2010, 08:32 AM
i believe this article can be expressed mathematically as follows:

frown cannon = mullet cannon

BigPlayShay
10-29-2010, 08:32 AM
Great comparison, but no mention of the similarity in chins:

http://www.deuceofdavenport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jeff-george.jpghttp://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/not_mr_olympia.jpg

Gort
10-29-2010, 08:34 AM
Great comparison, but no mention of the similarity in chins:

http://www.deuceofdavenport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jeff-george.jpghttp://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/not_mr_olympia.jpg

i still maintain that before frown cannon's career is over, he'll be the first NFL player whose helmet is fitted with dual chinstraps.

go_broncos
10-29-2010, 08:40 AM
I told from the beginning that Cutler Sucks...
I hate his attitude..He is not a leader..
Only positive thing Mcd has done till now is to trade cutler.

Lev Vyvanse
10-29-2010, 08:41 AM
when it comes to turning it over, Jay is like a 9 I would say

He was only like a 6 here in Denver.

Jesterhole
10-29-2010, 08:53 AM
There were quite a few of us that were glad to be rid of Cutler early on and ecstatic about what we got for him.




I agree but only if he took coaching and I suspect the bottom line reason Jay is not here is that while Josh & Jay were together on their honeymoon preseason playbook study sessions Josh realized Jay was a douche and was not gonna buy into Josh's plan of team first football and Jay realized Josh was not going to pamper him like Shanny did and he got ass hurt. I believe they both started to envision life without each other.

Is that what you Kool-aid drinkers have convinced yourself of? That your superhero Josh came in, and Jay was just like "Screw you, I'm awesome, trade me"?

No. Josh created the situation because he is a little boy who has no clue what he is doing. He has proved that more and more every week.

Seriously, do you own stock in this douchebag or what?

Chris
10-29-2010, 08:56 AM
Where is jhns?

strafen
10-29-2010, 08:58 AM
There were quite a few of us that were glad to be rid of Cutler early on and ecstatic about what we got for him.We could've used those picks we've got in return a lot wisely in my opinion, but there's nothing ecstatic about having Orton as your QB, if that's what you meant...



I agree but only if he took coaching and I suspect the bottom line reason Jay is not here is that while Josh & Jay were together on their honeymoon preseason playbook study sessions Josh realized Jay was a douche and was not gonna buy into Josh's plan of team first football and Jay realized Josh was not going to pamper him like Shanny did and he got ass hurt. I believe they both started to envision life without each other.And I think that's what it boils down to. The guy would be a better QB if he accepted coaching and have somebody work with him.
His problem -and Cutler admitted this- is that he can't read safeties and secondary formations...

bronco militia
10-29-2010, 09:00 AM
seriously, do you own stock in this douchebag or what?

Hilarious!

Dos Rios
10-29-2010, 09:01 AM
I still miss Jake Plummer.

baja
10-29-2010, 09:07 AM
We could've used those picks we've got in return a lot more wiser in my opinion, but there's nothing ecstatic about having Orton as your QB, if that's what you meant...

Yes the FO could have used the picks more wisely but I take comfort in seeing the vast improvement (the way they moved around the board and got the players they wanted at good value) in their second draft

Tombstone RJ
10-29-2010, 09:13 AM
I love these threads.

Because I was ****ing right about that nozzle from the start.

**** you all Im never letting it die.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=78345&highlight=Jeff+George

You're not the only one.

loborugger
10-29-2010, 09:24 AM
I still miss Jake Plummer.

It would be worth the cost of admission to watch Josh and Jake try and co-exist on the same team.

ScottXray
10-29-2010, 09:30 AM
Wow....Jeff George reincanated....and he didn't even have to die.

Maybe Cutler is Georges secret "love child" from some daliance while he was
in high school. Boffing some cheerleader in the back seat of a slow white bronco.

Beantown Bronco
10-29-2010, 09:32 AM
It would be worth the cost of admission to watch Josh and Jake try and co-exist on the same team.

We'd see a whole lot of this, though it wouldn't be nearly so one-sided.

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400HZ
10-29-2010, 09:33 AM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs004.ash2/33557_1619446600173_1056653715_1738006_5145207_n.j pg

Popps
10-29-2010, 10:02 AM
The Washington Post compared Cutler's statement to Napoleon saying he'd invade Russia in the winter every time, if he could.

LOL

Awesome.

Popps
10-29-2010, 10:04 AM
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baja
10-29-2010, 10:22 AM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs004.ash2/33557_1619446600173_1056653715_1738006_5145207_n.j pg

That is one of those photos that give support to the saying,"A picture is worth a thousand words"!

bronco militia
10-29-2010, 10:25 AM
Mostly, Shanahan used Royal whenever he was guarded one-on-one by Raiders cornerback DeAngelo Hall. After signing a seven-year, $66.28 million contract this offseason, it was Hall who was supposed to be some big prize for the Raiders. Royal toyed with him. It was Hall who got burned on Royal's 26-yard touchdown reception from Cutler, who played a terrific game.
"Eddie Royal beat DeAngelo Hall time after time after time," Cutler said.


Read more: Broncos win big in opener - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10412252#ixzz13lmk3K23

The Joker
10-29-2010, 10:31 AM
the pick 6 to Hall is the only one I'll give him a pass on. The others were just poor choices.

That was a terrible throw.

Late throws on out routes is never a good idea. Sure Hall makes a great catch but he should never have thrown that ball.

1st pick was poor play from Hester, the second and third were terrible from Cutler and the 4th was just a laughable throw from a man who had given up on the game.

UberBroncoMan
10-29-2010, 10:34 AM
http://boards.chicagobears.com/forums/thread/2385760.aspx

^

Lick up the delusional mess that is Bears fans.

"cutler will lead us to the superbowl many times once we utilize our talent correctly...o-line aside we got great young talent at tight end rb and wr"

Among many other gems.

bronco militia
10-29-2010, 10:37 AM
http://boards.chicagobears.com/forums/thread/2385760.aspx

^

Lick up the delusional mess that is Bears fans.

"cutler will lead us to the superbowl many times once we utilize our talent correctly...o-line aside we got great young talent at tight end rb and wr"

Among many other gems.

baja post's over there too? Ha!

broncocalijohn
10-29-2010, 11:22 AM
when it comes to turning it over, Jay is like a 9 I would say

Well, he was a six until the Redskins game.

Popps
10-29-2010, 11:32 AM
I still miss Jake Plummer.

There's something about winning that's hard to see go away.

Well, I think after the Cutler mess, we've actually got a quality QB under center again and an intriguing prospect in the wings. So, hopefully the QB spot won't be the sore thumb it was before we fleeced Chicago for Orton.

cousinal11
10-29-2010, 11:39 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/101028&sportCat=nfl

Jake Plummer started it.

After the 2008 season, when Jay Cutler and the Broncos became just the third team in NFL history to blow a three-game lead in the division and miss the playoffs, the former Broncos QB who always seemed to do more with less (he was 40-18 as a starter in Denver) said the physically gifted Cutler (17-20 with the Broncos) was "a helluva player."

"But," Plummer added, "Jeff George was a helluva player."

I picked up on that statement, and in ESPN The Magazine's 2009 NFL preview mentioned the uncanny comparisons between Cutler and George: two can't-miss, Hoosier-born QBs with golden arms and rotten 'tudes. Then, in December, former Ravens coach Brian Billick mentioned that Cutler, who led the league in picks, was starting to feel a little "Jeff George-ish." Pretty soon everyone was wondering if Jay Cutler was indeed the reincarnation of Jeff George, the No. 1 pick overall in 1990 whose attitude and leadership led him to three winning seasons in 12 years with five different teams.

Flem File

The Cutler-George comparisons had just started going away until last week, when Cutler single-handedly blew a game against the Redskins with four horrid interceptions (all to DeAngelo Hall) and a goal-line fumble. It was the 17th time he's thrown multiple picks in a game in 60 career starts.

As if that wasn't bad enough, before the Hall of Fame could even ask for Hall's jersey, Cutler was at the postgame podium in his perma-smirk, spewing what has to be the most asinine, delusional, out-of-touch and arrogant quote of the year. "There's no reason to shy away from Hall," said Cutler. "I mean, that's hard for me to say, throwing four picks at a guy, but I'd still, if we had to play them tomorrow, I'd go at him every time, if we could."

The Washington Post compared Cutler's statement to Napoleon saying he'd invade Russia in the winter every time, if he could.

And so, that night, the comparisons started up again.

On ESPN's Sunday Night Countdown, Cris Carter said: "Great talent in Cutler, but what I'm seeing is the same thing I saw in another great talent, talent undeveloped and the perfect storm. Cutler and Mike Martz equals a guy, Jeff George: Great talent, undeveloped."

So I decided to dig a little deeper and work up a side-by-side comparison between Jay Cutler and Jeff George. And what I found is frightening. Creepy even.

In fact, I think we can all stop arguing about the Jay Cutler-Jeff George connection and, instead, start investigating why no one has ever seen these two in the same room together.

See for yourself.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9821/aviarysportsespngocompi.png
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9821/aviarysportsespngocompi.png
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9821/aviarysportsespngocompi.png

Holy ****.

baja
10-29-2010, 12:05 PM
baja post's over there too? Ha!

dude if you are somehow under the delusion I am a fan of Cutler than you must have me on ignore.

hades
10-29-2010, 12:14 PM
Did I hear him right during a pep talk, "Do it for the 11 guys in the huddle with you". Wouldn't that mean there are 12 men in the huddle then?

bronco militia
10-29-2010, 12:21 PM
dude if you are somehow under the delusion I am a fan of Cutler than you must have me on ignore.

of course not ...just noting the delusional, baja-like characteristics of the copied post Ha!

Smiling Assassin27
10-29-2010, 12:23 PM
From last year. Actually it's like any other Cutler game.

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should've been penalized for a late hit out of bounds too. :yayaya:

Popps
10-29-2010, 12:27 PM
Did I hear him right during a pep talk, "Do it for the 11 guys in the huddle with you". Wouldn't that mean there are 12 men in the huddle then?

Hilarious!

Now, the 2010 Broncos Defense could use that chant.

"DO IT FOR THE 8 OTHER GUYS IN THE HUDDLE FOR YOU!!"

go_broncos
10-29-2010, 12:38 PM
Jeff George should sue ESPN.
Cutler is worse than Jeff George.
Cutler inherited the attitude from his parents.
I still can't forget the argument between them during Indy game.

baja
10-29-2010, 12:46 PM
Jeff George should sue ESPN.
Cutler is worse than Jeff George.
Cutler inherited the attitude from his parents.
<b>I still can't forget the argument between them during Indy game.

Elaborate.

bendog
10-29-2010, 01:15 PM
IF Jay doesn't suck ... tiny isn't a genius! roflmao

go_broncos
10-29-2010, 01:23 PM
Elaborate.

I remember there is an argument between cutler's dad and Wife when we played in Indy.
I saw it..I don't have any proof.
Also, cutler's dad giving the playbook..
These type of qualities cutler inherited..

Bronco Yoda
10-29-2010, 01:46 PM
I bet the frown cannon grows a sweet stash next year.

DBroncos4life
10-29-2010, 02:16 PM
Our coach can't beat a AFC west team at home.....but hey Cutler sucks so we can hang that as a win right?

tsiguy96
10-29-2010, 02:30 PM
Our coach can't beat a AFC west team at home.....but hey Cutler sucks so we can hang that as a win right?

yea, makes me feel pretty good.

Br0nc0Buster
10-29-2010, 02:37 PM
Our coach can't beat a AFC west team at home.....but hey Cutler sucks so we can hang that as a win right?

or we can talk about what a douche Cutler is regardless of our record

this doesnt amuse you, you are free to not post in it

"we have a losing record, NOTHING is funny ever"

Archer81
10-29-2010, 02:39 PM
So is this what happens when a thread about Cutler's suckassness is posted? "Well Josh sucks too!"...thats nice. But this thread is about the suckitude of Jay.


:Broncos:

Meck77
10-29-2010, 02:56 PM
You'd think hating on Cutler could be universal amongst Broncos fans at this point. I mean the guy sucks. Does anyone still doubt that? Taco? ;)

bowtown
10-29-2010, 02:58 PM
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/cutler-sack6.jpg

TonyR
10-29-2010, 03:05 PM
Our coach can't beat a AFC west team at home.....but hey Cutler sucks so we can hang that as a win right?

You should start a thread about how much you miss your boyfriend Jay. Jesterhole and bronco militia will probably stop by. You guys can listen to Justin Bieber and reminisce. Oh, what could have been! Boo fuccing hoo!

zdoor
10-29-2010, 03:26 PM
great comparison, but no mention of the similarity in chins:

http://www.deuceofdavenport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jeff-george.jpghttp://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/not_mr_olympia.jpg

lol

zdoor
10-29-2010, 03:27 PM
You'd think hating on Cutler could be universal amongst Broncos fans at this point. I mean the guy sucks. Does anyone still doubt that? Taco? ;)

Gotta agree.

OCBronco
10-29-2010, 03:40 PM
I didn't realize that Cutler had more interceptions than George at this stage of his career. Unreal.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-29-2010, 04:18 PM
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Popps
10-29-2010, 04:19 PM
You'd think hating on Cutler could be universal amongst Broncos fans at this point. I mean the guy sucks. Does anyone still doubt that? Taco? ;)

Taco wasn't nearly as blind as BPC. Of course, he's the biggest anti-Broncos troll out there, so it's no surprise he can't recognize this reality.

Popps
10-29-2010, 04:20 PM
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Jay Cutler is tearing his family apart.

baja
10-29-2010, 04:23 PM
I can read Jay's dad's lips he's saying I'm not driving to Denver to bring his play book back you do it this trade demand was mostly your idea.

rmsanger
10-29-2010, 04:53 PM
Wow all of the hate on here is funny... You guys act like a bunch of gossiping nancys... On his jock more than Bobo.. just let it go!

Popps
10-29-2010, 05:08 PM
Wow all of the hate on here is funny... You guys act like a bunch of gossiping nancys... On his jock more than Bobo.. just let it go!

Oh, sorry Mr. 500 posts. We were just having a little fun.

We'll get back to trashing current Broncos, cool?

BroncoMan4ever
10-29-2010, 05:24 PM
Cutler's issue is arrogance plain and simple, that bull after the game of "I'd keep through at Hall if we played them tomorrow" smacked of rookie arrogance/ignorance. Leinart against Bailey - esque.

Cutler with Orton's attitude = http://i30.tinypic.com/2j35szo.gif

Leinart at least had the excuse of being a rookie and not knowing any better. Cutler is just a dumbass

Archer81
10-29-2010, 06:56 PM
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Dad: Our son is a first round pick and we dont even warrant a ****ing luxury box?

Mom: Yeah...you need to really shut up. In fact, Jay is not your son.

Dad: What? Couldnt hear you.

Mom: Nothing. Wooooo foozeball!


:Broncos:

Dedhed
10-29-2010, 07:03 PM
So far, it looks like Mel Kiper was right all along...In liking Leinart more than Cutler?

Listen, Cutler is a douche and will never lead a team anywhere, but please, NEVER say that Kiper was right in debating the QBs of that draft class.

For as terrible as Cutler has been, Leinart would beg to have a career that was only half as disappointing.

cabronco
10-29-2010, 07:46 PM
I bet they have a perma-smirk halloween masks somewhere in Illinois...:~ohyah!:

Dudeskey
10-29-2010, 09:43 PM
I bet the frown cannon grows a sweet stash next year.

he could but it'll never top this...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y22G4uovoqw/R5N-Ory0SBI/AAAAAAAAAXo/uNAHGEzwdDU/s400/jake_plummer_moustache.jpg

Dos Rios
10-29-2010, 09:51 PM
he could but it'll never top this...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y22G4uovoqw/R5N-Ory0SBI/AAAAAAAAAXo/uNAHGEzwdDU/s400/jake_plummer_moustache.jpg

Again, I really miss that crazy mf'er.

Dudeskey
10-29-2010, 09:55 PM
Again, I really miss that crazy mf'er.

In a way I do too.

BroncoDoug
10-29-2010, 09:57 PM
he could but it'll never top this...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y22G4uovoqw/R5N-Ory0SBI/AAAAAAAAAXo/uNAHGEzwdDU/s400/jake_plummer_moustache.jpg

40-18 as a starter here... it wasn't always pretty but it worked

Atwater His Ass
10-29-2010, 10:28 PM
The reason Jake was successful here and Cutler was well on his way to being pretty damn good in Denver, was that Mike Shanahan knows how to coach.

BroncoBuff
10-29-2010, 10:30 PM
Jake is right, Jeff George did have some serious talent. Strongest arm I've ever seen, he and Randall Cunningham anyway.

It seemed George's throws actually GAINED speed in flight.

baja
10-30-2010, 03:26 AM
Jake is right, Jeff George did have some serious talent. Strongest arm I've ever seen, he and Randall Cunningham anyway.

It seemed George's throws actually GAINED speed in flight.

I don't think that is possible if you are being serious.

BroncoBuff
10-30-2010, 06:34 AM
Not literally of course.

Dagmar
10-30-2010, 07:50 AM
The reason Jake was successful here and Cutler was well on his way to being pretty damn good in Denver, was that Mike Shanahan knows how to coach.

Yup, this current dude had no idea what to do when it comes to QBs.

baja
10-30-2010, 08:18 AM
Not literally of course.

I thought maybe George found a way punch a little hole in the back of the ball and allow the escaping air to propel the football ;D


BTW Were you serious about the DV tour guide telling her group that Pat Bowlen had memory issues?

strafen
10-30-2010, 08:45 AM
Yup, this current dude had no idea what to do when it comes to QBs.Since you're rathher new to football, let me remind you tha shanahan has alwaus been considered a great QB coach.
Just about any coach that came from the Wlash tree knows a thing or two about QB.
John Elway's career prospered when Shanahan came to Denver.
Shanahan was the Broncos OC/QC coach when Reeves was the HC...

bowtown
10-30-2010, 08:47 AM
Since you're rathher new to football, let me remind you tha shanahan has alwaus been considered a great QB coach.
Just about any coach that came from the Wlash tree knows a thing or two about QB.
John Elway's career prospered when Shanahan came to Denver.
Shanahan was the Broncos OC/QC coach when Reeves was the HC...

^
doesn't understand sarcasm.

baja
10-30-2010, 09:22 AM
Since you're rathher new to football, let me remind you tha shanahan has alwaus been considered a great QB coach.
Just about any coach that came from the Wlash tree knows a thing or two about QB.
John Elway's career prospered when Shanahan came to Denver.
Shanahan was the Broncos OC/QC coach when Reeves was the HC...

After winning two Super Bowls together Shanahan and Elway are bitter toward one another. It is only after Shanny left the Broncos than John started to be involved with the Broncos again.


Drafted Brian Griese in the third round paid him a shiit load of money on an extension after he screwed up his shoulder in Oakland.

Started Griese over Brister who the vets were behind divided the locker room and had a lousy season as a result.

Brought in Jake Plummer and never stopped fighting with him. Jake basically left football and left 7 million dollars on the table because of the "Little man upstairs" ( I'd like to ask Al Wilson how he feels about his treatment out the door at Dove valley )

Drafted Cutler when we needed defense. We had just played in the AFCC with a QB that had won 70% of his games for us and had his team mates solidly in his corner.

Started the rookie Cutler whit the team @ 7 & 4 and lost the players in the process. I believe this was the end for Shanny in Denver it just took the loyal Pat Bowlen time to do the painful and replace Mike Shanahan.

Ya Mike knows quarter backs.

Before rev comes along and goes Tasmanian Devil on this post let me say I think Mike is the best offensive game planner and game day offensive mind in the game. I will always be grateful for the Super Bowl wins.

Drek
10-30-2010, 09:42 AM
Since you're rathher new to football, let me remind you tha shanahan has alwaus been considered a great QB coach.
Just about any coach that came from the Wlash tree knows a thing or two about QB.
John Elway's career prospered when Shanahan came to Denver.
Shanahan was the Broncos OC/QC coach when Reeves was the HC...

I don't think the post you're quoting in any way implies that Shanahan isn't a good QB coach.

Just someone pointing out that the current coach has a pretty good resume on that front himself.

Tombstone RJ
10-30-2010, 09:51 AM
Since you're rathher new to football, let me remind you tha shanahan has alwaus been considered a great QB coach.
Just about any coach that came from the Wlash tree knows a thing or two about QB.
John Elway's career prospered when Shanahan came to Denver.
Shanahan was the Broncos OC/QC coach when Reeves was the HC...

looks like you missed the point, again...

Drek
10-30-2010, 09:53 AM
After winning two Super Bowls together Shanahan and Elway are bitter toward one another. It is only after Shanny left the Broncos than John started to be involved with the Broncos again.


Drafted Brian Griese in the third round paid him a shiit load of money on an extention after he screwed up his shoulder in Oakland.

Started Griese over Brister who the vets were behind divided the locker room and had a lousy season as a result.

Brought in Jake Plummer and never stopped fighting with him. Jake basically left football and left 7 million dollars on the table because of the "Little man upstairs" ( I'd like to ask Al Wilson how he feels about his treatment out the door at Dove valley )

Drafted Cutler when we needed defense. We had just played in the AFCC with a QB that had won 70% of his games for us and had his team mates solidly in his corner.

Started the rookie Cutler whit the team @ 7 & 4 and lost the players in the process. I believe this was the end for Shanny in Denver it just took the loyal Pat Bowlen time to do the painful and replace Mike Shanahan.

Ya Mike knows quarter backs

If you believe Mark Schlereth (who was in the locker room at the time) the beginning of losing the club for Shanahan came in '99. By Schlereth's account many of the team's leaders didn't take well to the fact that Shanahan spent years railing on how dirty a player Carter was in KC, and how he was the antithesis of what it meant to be a Bronco. Then in the '99 off-season he lets Atwater walk and makes Dale Carter the highest paid Bronco on the team.

He had just won the Super Bowl so he was pretty much bullet proof. But that kind of move does a hell of a lot more to hurt a coach's credibility than going with a young guy over a mediocre journeyman. I'm sure much of the '99 club knew that Griese was a better QB than Brister. I doubt many of them would say that Carter getting paid while Atwater was dropped and guys like TD and Rod Smith were still making only a little more than league minimum made them happy.

Tombstone RJ
10-30-2010, 09:58 AM
Shanahan was getting high on his own supply, that is, he was believing his own press as a "mastermind" and consequently, he made some terrible decisions. I've said it 100 times but I'll say it again, Shanny the GM got Shanny the HC fired.

baja
10-30-2010, 10:00 AM
If you believe Mark Schlereth (who was in the locker room at the time) the beginning of losing the club for Shanahan came in '99. By Schlereth's account many of the team's leaders didn't take well to the fact that Shanahan spent years railing on how dirty a player Carter was in KC, and how he was the antithesis of what it meant to be a Bronco. Then in the '99 off-season he lets Atwater walk and makes Dale Carter the highest paid Bronco on the team.

He had just won the Super Bowl so he was pretty much bullet proof. But that kind of move does a hell of a lot more to hurt a coach's credibility than going with a young guy over a mediocre journeyman. I'm sure much of the '99 club knew that Griese was a better QB than Brister. I doubt many of them would say that Carter getting paid while Atwater was dropped and guys like TD and Rod Smith were still making only a little more than league minimum made them happy.

The shine came off Mike for me with that Carter deal and good points about Atwater and Rod's and TD's contract (they eventually did get paid but the Carter deal had to hurt them)

I disagree with you about the team wanting Griese over Brister. Griese like Cutler was not liked in the locker room while Brister and Plummer was wildly liked, that matters to the players and they had already won with them.

CEH
10-30-2010, 10:58 AM
I disagree with you about the team wanting Griese over Brister. Griese like Cutler was not liked in the locker room while Brister and Plummer was wildly liked, that matters to the players and they had already won with them.

Again back to Alfred and Stink. They said the other day without a doubt they go to the SB with John and to the playoffs with Bubby. They loved Bubby even though he came off as a dufus to most that did not know him. Didn't really address or endorse Brian. This of course is all based on TD not getting his knee blown out by Lepsis

One could almost say Bubby was an Elway guy and this was Elway's team until '99 and Shanny wanted to make his own mark after John left.

oubronco
10-30-2010, 11:06 AM
The reason Jake was successful here and Cutler was well on his way to being pretty damn good in Denver, was that Mike Shanahan knows how to coach.

Yep

oubronco
10-30-2010, 11:08 AM
Shanahan was getting high on his own supply, that is, he was believing his own press as a "mastermind" and consequently, he made some terrible decisions. I've said it 100 times but I'll say it again, Shanny the GM got Shanny the HC fired.

Yep

azbroncfan
10-30-2010, 11:27 AM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=78304

Funny how people were disagreeing with me when Jay was on Denver but now that he is gone it's a bash fest. I am glad we got rid of the loser.

WolfpackGuy
10-30-2010, 11:29 AM
If you believe Mark Schlereth (who was in the locker room at the time) the beginning of losing the club for Shanahan came in '99. By Schlereth's account many of the team's leaders didn't take well to the fact that Shanahan spent years railing on how dirty a player Carter was in KC, and how he was the antithesis of what it meant to be a Bronco. Then in the '99 off-season he lets Atwater walk and makes Dale Carter the highest paid Bronco on the team.

He had just won the Super Bowl so he was pretty much bullet proof. But that kind of move does a hell of a lot more to hurt a coach's credibility than going with a young guy over a mediocre journeyman. I'm sure much of the '99 club knew that Griese was a better QB than Brister. I doubt many of them would say that Carter getting paid while Atwater was dropped and guys like TD and Rod Smith were still making only a little more than league minimum made them happy.

Not true.

TD got significant raises after his rookie season and after the Broncos first Super Bowl win.

I don't recall Smith's contract situations, but I'm sure he wasn't hurting for money after Pritchard and Miller were sent packing which was a couple seasons before 99.

I didn't agree with Atwater being let go, but he was already being replaced in passing situations in 1998.

Yeah, Carter was a goon, but you don't tell a bump and run guy to play zone.

Tombstone RJ
10-30-2010, 11:32 AM
Not true.

TD got significant raises after his rookie season and after the Broncos first Super Bowl win.

I don't recall Smith's contract situations, but I'm sure he wasn't hurting for money after Pritchard and Miller were sent packing which was a couple seasons before 99.

I didn't agree with Atwater being let go, but he was already being replaced in passing situations in 1998.

Yeah, Carter was a goon, but you don't tell a bump and run guy to play zone.


Very true, another shanny failure as a defensive minded coach. Carter was a huge mistake and then shanny compounded that mistake by misusing the guy. What a fuggin fiasco.

bowtown
10-30-2010, 12:25 PM
nm

TomServo
10-31-2010, 01:47 AM
bears have a winning record. broncos? and orton? Oyeah as long as orton is setting passing records W Loss dont count.

Drek
10-31-2010, 04:03 AM
Not true.

TD got significant raises after his rookie season and after the Broncos first Super Bowl win.

I don't recall Smith's contract situations, but I'm sure he wasn't hurting for money after Pritchard and Miller were sent packing which was a couple seasons before 99.

I didn't agree with Atwater being let go, but he was already being replaced in passing situations in 1998.

Yeah, Carter was a goon, but you don't tell a bump and run guy to play zone.
I honestly couldn't tell you man, it wasn't my story. Stink recounted it on Mike & Mike a little while back and said that in his opinion was the beginning of the end for Shanahan.

Seeings how Stink was a valuable member of the team at the time I'd assume he's got a fair bit of insight.

Arkie
01-19-2011, 02:49 PM
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Jay Cutler made his first playoffs in his 5th year

Jeff George made his first playoffs in his 5th year too

Garcia Bronco
01-19-2011, 02:59 PM
Jay Cutler made his first playoffs in his 5th year

Jeff George made his first playoffs in his 5th year too

The legend continues.

Gort
01-19-2011, 03:00 PM
Jay Cutler made his first playoffs in his 5th year

Jeff George made his first playoffs in his 5th year too

http://www.sk8dork.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/wonder.jpg

prepare for the inevitable onslaught.

TheReverend
01-19-2011, 04:02 PM
Jay Cutler made his first playoffs in his 5th year

Jeff George made his first playoffs in his 5th year too

1. Jeff George made his first playoffs in his SIXTH year (rookie in 90, made it in 95)

2. He lost immediately in the wild card round.

Merlin
01-19-2011, 04:12 PM
The McD Juice must have killed more brain cells than you will ever be able to compensate for:

JG's record
1990 5-7 181 334 54.2% 2152 16 13 75 6.4 11.9 73.8
1991 1-15 292 485 60.2 2910 10 12 49 6.0 10.0 73.8
1992 6-4 167 306 54.6 1963 7 15 57 6.4 11.8 61.5
1993 2-9 234 407 57.5 2526 8 6 72 6.2 10.8 76.3
1994 7-9 322 524 61.5 3734 23 18 85 7.1 11.6 83.3
1995 9-7 336 557 60.3 4143 24 11 62 7.4 12.3 89.5

Cutlerís record
2006 2-3 81 137 59.1 1001 9 5 71 7.3 12.4 88.5
2007 7-9 297 467 63.6 3497 20 14 68 7.5 11.8 88.1
2008 8-8 384 616 62.3 4526 25 18 93 7.3 11.8 86.0
2009 7-8 336 555 60.5 3666 27 26 71 6.6 10.9 76.8
2010 10-5 432 261 60.4 3,274 23 16 41 7.6 86.3

Jay Cutler has completed over 60 percent of his throws, and averaged over seven yards an attempt throughout his career. This is typically a reference point on whether a QB is good or bad. In his first 5 yrs JG had only 2 yrs with a completion rate 60% or higher. Cutler has passed for 60% or higher every yr except his first, and he did not miss by much. His worst passer rating is better than every yr but one in JGís first 5.

JG won 8 or more games once and 7 or more twice. The only yr Cutler does not win 7 or more is his first, and he only played 5 games that yr, but he still won as many or more games as JG did in two of his first seasons. In fact, in his last 3 seasons Cutler has more total wins that JG in his first 5 combined.

JG best season in total yds is his 6th, and Cutler surpassed it in his 3rd (or 2nd full time). JG does not surpass 3000 yds until his 6th season, Cutler has done it every yr played but for is first abbreviated season.

In his first 5 seasons, JG has 2 seasons in single digits for TDs, on with 10 and another with 16. In his whole career, 12 yrs, he has 4 seasons with TDs in the 20s. In Cutlerís first yr he plays only 5 games and just misses double digit TDs (9). In his 4 full time seasons he has passed for 20 TDs or more every season, and in two of those he passed for more TDs than any yr in JGís career.

In his first 5 seasons JG has 2 seasons in which he throws more interceptions than TDs. Cutler has never thrown fewer TDs than interceptions.

Jeff Cutlerís record through his first five seasons was 21-44. Jay Cutlerís is 35-33 (playoff win).
To conclude, only a statistical moron would suggest these QBs are comparable in any fashion.

colonelbeef
01-19-2011, 08:14 PM
The McD Juice must have killed more brain cells than you will ever be able to compensate for:

JG's record
1990 5-7 181 334 54.2% 2152 16 13 75 6.4 11.9 73.8
1991 1-15 292 485 60.2 2910 10 12 49 6.0 10.0 73.8
1992 6-4 167 306 54.6 1963 7 15 57 6.4 11.8 61.5
1993 2-9 234 407 57.5 2526 8 6 72 6.2 10.8 76.3
1994 7-9 322 524 61.5 3734 23 18 85 7.1 11.6 83.3
1995 9-7 336 557 60.3 4143 24 11 62 7.4 12.3 89.5

Cutlerís record
2006 2-3 81 137 59.1 1001 9 5 71 7.3 12.4 88.5
2007 7-9 297 467 63.6 3497 20 14 68 7.5 11.8 88.1
2008 8-8 384 616 62.3 4526 25 18 93 7.3 11.8 86.0
2009 7-8 336 555 60.5 3666 27 26 71 6.6 10.9 76.8
2010 10-5 432 261 60.4 3,274 23 16 41 7.6 86.3

Jay Cutler has completed over 60 percent of his throws, and averaged over seven yards an attempt throughout his career. This is typically a reference point on whether a QB is good or bad. In his first 5 yrs JG had only 2 yrs with a completion rate 60% or higher. Cutler has passed for 60% or higher every yr except his first, and he did not miss by much. His worst passer rating is better than every yr but one in JGís first 5.

JG won 8 or more games once and 7 or more twice. The only yr Cutler does not win 7 or more is his first, and he only played 5 games that yr, but he still won as many or more games as JG did in two of his first seasons. In fact, in his last 3 seasons Cutler has more total wins that JG in his first 5 combined.

JG best season in total yds is his 6th, and Cutler surpassed it in his 3rd (or 2nd full time). JG does not surpass 3000 yds until his 6th season, Cutler has done it every yr played but for is first abbreviated season.

In his first 5 seasons, JG has 2 seasons in single digits for TDs, on with 10 and another with 16. In his whole career, 12 yrs, he has 4 seasons with TDs in the 20s. In Cutlerís first yr he plays only 5 games and just misses double digit TDs (9). In his 4 full time seasons he has passed for 20 TDs or more every season, and in two of those he passed for more TDs than any yr in JGís career.

In his first 5 seasons JG has 2 seasons in which he throws more interceptions than TDs. Cutler has never thrown fewer TDs than interceptions.

Jeff Cutlerís record through his first five seasons was 21-44. Jay Cutlerís is 35-33 (playoff win).
To conclude, only a statistical moron would suggest these QBs are comparable in any fashion.


Cutler haters owned for the 9,426th time.

good work.

Arkie
01-19-2011, 08:23 PM
The McD Juice must have killed more brain cells than you will ever be able to compensate for:

JG's record
1990 5-7 181 334 54.2% 2152 16 13 75 6.4 11.9 73.8
1991 1-15 292 485 60.2 2910 10 12 49 6.0 10.0 73.8
1992 6-4 167 306 54.6 1963 7 15 57 6.4 11.8 61.5
1993 2-9 234 407 57.5 2526 8 6 72 6.2 10.8 76.3
1994 7-9 322 524 61.5 3734 23 18 85 7.1 11.6 83.3
1995 9-7 336 557 60.3 4143 24 11 62 7.4 12.3 89.5

Cutlerís record
2006 2-3 81 137 59.1 1001 9 5 71 7.3 12.4 88.5
2007 7-9 297 467 63.6 3497 20 14 68 7.5 11.8 88.1
2008 8-8 384 616 62.3 4526 25 18 93 7.3 11.8 86.0
2009 7-8 336 555 60.5 3666 27 26 71 6.6 10.9 76.8
2010 10-5 432 261 60.4 3,274 23 16 41 7.6 86.3

Jay Cutler has completed over 60 percent of his throws, and averaged over seven yards an attempt throughout his career. This is typically a reference point on whether a QB is good or bad. In his first 5 yrs JG had only 2 yrs with a completion rate 60% or higher. Cutler has passed for 60% or higher every yr except his first, and he did not miss by much. His worst passer rating is better than every yr but one in JGís first 5.

JG won 8 or more games once and 7 or more twice. The only yr Cutler does not win 7 or more is his first, and he only played 5 games that yr, but he still won as many or more games as JG did in two of his first seasons. In fact, in his last 3 seasons Cutler has more total wins that JG in his first 5 combined.

JG best season in total yds is his 6th, and Cutler surpassed it in his 3rd (or 2nd full time). JG does not surpass 3000 yds until his 6th season, Cutler has done it every yr played but for is first abbreviated season.

In his first 5 seasons, JG has 2 seasons in single digits for TDs, on with 10 and another with 16. In his whole career, 12 yrs, he has 4 seasons with TDs in the 20s. In Cutlerís first yr he plays only 5 games and just misses double digit TDs (9). In his 4 full time seasons he has passed for 20 TDs or more every season, and in two of those he passed for more TDs than any yr in JGís career.

In his first 5 seasons JG has 2 seasons in which he throws more interceptions than TDs. Cutler has never thrown fewer TDs than interceptions.

Jeff Cutlerís record through his first five seasons was 21-44. Jay Cutlerís is 35-33 (playoff win).
To conclude, only a statistical moron would suggest these QBs are comparable in any fashion.

Jeff Cutler, Jay George...it's all the same.

Inkana7
01-19-2011, 09:06 PM
Cutler haters owned for the 9,426th time.

good work.

Yes, nothing like stating that Jay Cutler can get you 7-8 wins every year to own people.

DivineBronco
01-19-2011, 10:49 PM
Cutler haters owned for the 9,426th time.

good work.

we dont hate him for stats or talent we hate him cause he hates us........no forgiveness only hope for his sternum to be crushed

ol#7
01-20-2011, 03:39 AM
we dont hate him for stats or talent we hate him cause he hates us........no forgiveness only hope for his sternum to be crushed

This is such a juvenile attitude...I would expect Denver fans to have seen through his '6' comment. FWIW, I wouldnt rate you that high. maybe a '4' on a good day. Your no DivineBengal!

I guess I never will understand the hate for this guy, even after McD flamed out and if Cutler takes the Bear to the SB, make no mistake, they won that trade!

Odysseus
01-20-2011, 05:46 AM
I still miss Jake Plummer.

I liked Jake Plummer. His last year was painful but there were some good games where it looked like we had a shot.

I liked Jay Cutler. I was hoping that Plummer would hold it together better while Jay got his head on straight.

We don't have nor will we get another Hall of fame quarterback on our roster anytime soon. All the lust for Tebow is inspiring but Daunte Culpepper's career was cut short but running too much. I am just saying.

Elway, despite our collective amnesia, was compared to a lot of losers before he won back to back Superbowls. Elway WAS a loser. What changed? Do you see those commercials about the "power of the ring"? Move along !

If I were Jeff George I would capitalize how his name gets beat up. He is like the Kevin Bacon of NFL sports. Everything connects to Jeff George. He should come on a late night sports show dressed as Satin just for grins.

Odysseus
01-20-2011, 05:58 AM
This is such a juvenile attitude...I would expect Denver fans to have seen through his '6' comment. FWIW, I wouldnt rate you that high. maybe a '4' on a good day. Your no DivineBengal!

I guess I never will understand the hate for this guy, even after McD flamed out and if Cutler takes the Bear to the SB, make no mistake, they won that trade!

I think the better Cutler does the more this will put the Broncos organization on notice. I don't think they have what it takes to go the full distance but it's the playoffs. I wonder who goes on suicide watch first if he succeeds?

DENVERDUI55
09-14-2012, 08:10 AM
Good Bump! I know Cutler nut huggers disagree.

TheReverend
09-14-2012, 08:16 AM
Good Bump! I know Cutler nut huggers disagree.

...did you really just congratulate yourself for your own bump...?

DENVERDUI55
09-14-2012, 08:18 AM
...did you really just congratulate yourself for your own bump...?

I'm learning from you. I see your crush on me is still strong. :strong: I love me some well me.

ColoradoDarin
09-14-2012, 08:23 AM
I see someone learned how to use the search feature

lonestar
09-14-2012, 08:25 AM
Jay Cutler is Jeff George reincarnated

Without reading all the rest of the thread I've been saying this since I first saw him play.. Did not realize that Jake may have said it..

the parallels are very close..

a super strong arm that makes the QB feel he can make any play.. Coach after coach has tried to coach that notion out of their head.. I can do it my way and show every one I'm right..

instead of going with the play that is doable and in most cases safe they try to force the ball into a tight space because their arm is "stronger than Elways" ..

Not sure how many times I saw cutlet forcing into double and in some cases triple coverage when others are running wide open.. A shorter throw but not in the end zone..

I have a friend that is a huge bears fan.. He stopped texting me just before half time.. He was sure that BM and I use that term to stand for the guy that BM is, would be the answer to all the pryers that Bears fan have been looking to forever..

When he was traded I told him that cutlet would break his heart, avian when BM was traded for..

Cutlet is a specimen has all the tools but the mind for this game..

When I saw him bump and jaw with the LINEMAN and the guy just laugh it off walking away I knew that cutlet was back and not getting the respect that a REAL QB gets..

His 30 something QBR that was posted last night against GB says it all.

Can beat up on weaklings but can't win the big one..

now if he gets another coach fired or gets his ass traded again that will be the culmination of his being Jeff George..

BroncoBeavis
09-14-2012, 08:34 AM
...did you really just congratulate yourself for your own bump...?

Makes me miss jhzz.

BroncoBeavis
09-14-2012, 08:35 AM
Makes me miss jhzz.

^ This

TheReverend
09-14-2012, 08:37 AM
Makes me miss jhzz.

Remarkable

TheReverend
09-14-2012, 08:37 AM
Remarkable

Totally dude! AWESOME POST!

DENVERDUI55
09-14-2012, 08:38 AM
Makes me miss jhzz.

Shouldn't you try convincing us all that we are worse off with Manning than Tebow?

SureShot
09-14-2012, 08:45 AM
Bump

TheReverend
09-14-2012, 08:47 AM
Bump... great bump SureShot!

Fixed bro

Boogerboots
09-14-2012, 08:49 AM
Best part was the Body Type description

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/boogerboots/Cutler2012-Doughier.jpg

BroncoBeavis
09-14-2012, 08:49 AM
Shouldn't you try convincing us all that we are worse off with Manning than Tebow?

Water under the bridge at this point.

BroncoBeavis
09-14-2012, 08:51 AM
Water under the bridge at this point.

^ +1

Punisher
09-14-2012, 08:57 AM
Water under the bridge at this point.

Hilarious! Yea and said that if the broncos win the Super Bowl with Manning that it will mean nothing. Be honest was you trolling or dead serious?

BroncoBeavis
09-14-2012, 09:05 AM
Hilarious! Yea and said that if the broncos win the Super Bowl with Manning that it will mean nothing. Be honest was you trolling or dead serious?

Never said that. I've said I doubt it'll happen. And I maybe said it would mean less than watching Elway win one at the end of his career.

All along though I said we needed to at least get to a Super Bowl to regard this as any kind of success. I still believe that today.

I may have been more upset about it at the time than I should have been. But I grew to love that kid. Still do.

DENVERDUI55
09-23-2012, 09:06 AM
LOL they are talking about how this is a valid comparison on sunday countdown.

24champ
10-20-2014, 09:48 AM
Bears are 3-4 and fans are booing Cutler and Co. Off the field yesterday.

Then the locker room is a mess, everyone is screaming and yelling at each other after another loss. Naturally Jay doesn't give a s***.

http://deadspin.com/report-brandon-marshall-called-out-jay-cutler-in-bears-1648357159

Biggest waste of talent I've ever seen in a long time. :nono:

Rohirrim
10-20-2014, 09:51 AM
He's got a great arm.

Old Dude
10-20-2014, 10:54 AM
He's got a great arm.

I hear it's even stronger than Elway's!

crush17
10-20-2014, 11:00 AM
Shhh. Don't tell SoCal.

broncocalijohn
10-20-2014, 11:55 AM
Bears are 3-4 and fans are booing Cutler and Co. Off the field yesterday.

Then the locker room is a mess, everyone is screaming and yelling at each other after another loss. Naturally Jay doesn't give a s***.

http://deadspin.com/report-brandon-marshall-called-out-jay-cutler-in-bears-1648357159

Biggest waste of talent I've ever seen in a long time. :nono:

Any chance he called the Bears' fans a 3 and we are still a 6?

Mountain Bronco
10-20-2014, 12:15 PM
Hopefully they can rally and beat the Pats next week.

DENVERDUI55
10-21-2014, 08:18 AM
Hopefully they can rally and beat the Pats next week.

Highly doubt it. Jay rarely beats a team as an underdog on the road.

maven
10-21-2014, 08:53 AM
Highly doubt it. Jay rarely beats a team as an underdog on the road.

You never know. Nobody expected the Bears to roll into Santa Clara and win.

Br0nc0Buster
10-21-2014, 08:57 AM
Looking back it looks like we lucked out on the Cutler trade

He is playing really bad right now in Chicago
To the point the fans are booing and teammates are calling him out (Marshall)

While Demaryious (pick from the Cutler trade was used to select him) has completed dominated lately and become the best WR in the league

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/chuck-norris-thumbs-up-dodgeball-gif.gif

Br0nc0Buster
10-21-2014, 08:59 AM
I could see the Bears beating New England
NE's defense especially with some key guys out is not that intimidating
If Cutler can just not completely crap his pants they will move the ball on them

Defensively I am not sure as Chicago's D is horrible
But it could be a close game

HAT
10-21-2014, 09:00 AM
Next year is his break out year...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-21-2014, 09:01 AM
Next year is his break out year...

Forever.

2KBack
10-21-2014, 09:04 AM
It might be about time for Cutler to go a couple games looking great again to get the fans hopes up.

24champ
10-21-2014, 09:13 AM
Next year is his break out year...

Things Socal would say for $500, Alex.

DENVERDUI55
10-21-2014, 09:42 AM
You never know. Nobody expected the Bears to roll into Santa Clara and win.

Nobody expected SF to be mediocre either.

ColoradoDarin
10-23-2014, 06:25 AM
Brian Urlacher (http://voices.suntimes.com/sports/brian-urlacher-only-thing-elite-about-jay-cutler-is-his-salary/)

Tuesday, Bears GM Phil Emery called Jay Cutler an elite quarterback.

Wednesday, future Hall of Famer Brian Urlacher said that was true ó but only in a financial sense. Cutler is the highest-paid player in the NFL this season.

ďFinancially, he is one of the elite guys in the NFL Ö he just hasnít produced like an elite quarterback,Ē the former linebacker said on 87.7 FM The Game. ďYou look at the Bradys, the Mannings, the Rodgers, the Brees, those guys win every year, even with no one around them.

Glorious!

DENVERDUI55
10-23-2014, 07:27 AM
Brian Urlacher (http://voices.suntimes.com/sports/brian-urlacher-only-thing-elite-about-jay-cutler-is-his-salary/)



Glorious!

LOL that is awesome. Shows how stupid it is to say look at his salary so he is a franchise QB.

Old Dude
10-23-2014, 09:03 AM
I'm just happy for Cutler that he gets to play before the Bears fans, who are far more supportive, patient and football-savvy than those in Denver.

Kaylore
10-23-2014, 09:06 AM
I'm just happy for Cutler that he gets to play before the Bears fans, who are far more supportive, patient and football-savvy than those in Denver.

In terms of overpaying for QB talent, we're like a four. Chicago is a nine.

Garcia Bronco
10-23-2014, 09:11 AM
Jay cutler isn't white enough

TheReverend
10-23-2014, 09:31 AM
Jay cutler isn't white enough

I can't think of anything whiter than marrying Kristin Cavallari.

Pick Six
10-23-2014, 09:44 AM
I could see the Bears beating New England
NE's defense especially with some key guys out is not that intimidating
If Cutler can just not completely crap his pants they will move the ball on them

Defensively I am not sure as Chicago's D is horrible
But it could be a close game

History would suggest otherwise. In 2008, Denver lost 41-7. In 2010, Chicago lost 36-7. I realize that we should take each year as its own separate entity, but Belichick seems to have Cutler's number...

OABB
10-23-2014, 09:54 AM
Next year is his break out year...

He just needs some oline talent and receivers and a defense and a running back and a tight end and and a good coach and better hydration and also he needs to not suck so bad as a qb.

Gutless Drunk
10-23-2014, 10:31 AM
Urlcaher's point is actually kind of weak. In terms of average salary the Bears are basically getting what they paid for -

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/average/quarterback/limit-25/

a Ryan/Flacco/Stafford/Smith type of inconsistent above average QB at, what is now, the going rate for such a commodity.

Kaylore
10-23-2014, 10:43 AM
Jay Cutler isn't Jeff George. He's been on two teams and forced himself off one, and it wasn't because his teammates hated him. You can call him a coach-killer, int machine, frown cannon. Those all have evidence to support their use. But Jeff George was being kicked off his fourth team when he was Cutler's age for being a total dick to his teammates and pretty much ignoring coaches completely. That's not Jay's MO. I'd say he's more like a less charismatic, more introverted and less-good Brett Favre.

TheReverend
10-23-2014, 11:11 AM
Jay Cutler isn't Jeff George. He's been on two teams and forced himself off one, and it wasn't because his teammates hated him. You can call him a coach-killer, int machine, frown cannon. Those all have evidence to support their use. But Jeff George was being kicked off his fourth team when he was Cutler's age for being a total dick to his teammates and pretty much ignoring coaches completely. That's not Jay's MO. I'd say he's more like a less charismatic, more introverted and less-good Brett Favre.

Pretty inarguable description

DENVERDUI55
10-23-2014, 11:23 AM
Nobody has the ability to put up meaningless stats in a blowout loss like Jay does. Almost every time his team needs a big time win Jay come up empty. It is mind boggling how bad he has been when his team needs him the most.

Rausch 2.0
10-23-2014, 12:18 PM
Jay Cutler isn't Jeff George. He's been on two teams and forced himself off one, and it wasn't because his teammates hated him. You can call him a coach-killer, int machine, frown cannon. Those all have evidence to support their use. But Jeff George was being kicked off his fourth team when he was Cutler's age for being a total dick to his teammates and pretty much ignoring coaches completely. That's not Jay's MO. I'd say he's more like a less charismatic, more introverted and less-good Brett Favre.

Brett Favre wasn't constantly banged up...

Gort
10-23-2014, 02:00 PM
I can't think of anything whiter than marrying Kristin Cavallari.

i can.

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com

Kaylore
10-23-2014, 02:05 PM
Brett Favre wasn't constantly banged up...

I was speaking more of their personalities and play style than their physical constitution. Cutler is more mobile than Favre and has a Jim Kelly body. I mean there's a lot of ways to slice it. But speaking to the OP where they say Cutler is Jeff George, I don't agree with it.

Inkana7
10-23-2014, 02:17 PM
At least we can assume Jeff George believes in vaccination.

DENVERDUI55
10-23-2014, 02:46 PM
Jay Cutler isn't Jeff George. He's been on two teams and forced himself off one, and it wasn't because his teammates hated him. You can call him a coach-killer, int machine, frown cannon. Those all have evidence to support their use. But Jeff George was being kicked off his fourth team when he was Cutler's age for being a total dick to his teammates and pretty much ignoring coaches completely. That's not Jay's MO. I'd say he's more like a less charismatic, more introverted and less-good Brett Favre.

I think their games are very similar though and I think that is what the article is implying. George was definitely a bigger hot head and had a bigger mouth on him.

CEH
10-23-2014, 02:51 PM
Tons of physical talent . Best arm in the game. One playoff win and the same TD to INT ratio. A dick or douche same difference.

Yeah looks like Jeff George to me.