Paul Krugman is a joke...

[Taco John]

http://imgur.com/Smlix.jpg


Every now and again, we this guy posted passing of his smarmy psudo-logic passed off as legitimate thoughts. THe only thing this guy has ever done of note is criticize Bush during a time when he needed to be criticized. He won a Nobel award for that. Outside of that, he's a hack who should be laughed at and ignored.

[barryr]

Krugman never met a tax he didn't like. It is idiots like him that really believe just raising taxes on certain people won't trickle down and affect everyone in some way eventually. "Tax the rich more" is their simple solution, but never generates the money they always think it will.

[orinjkrush]

have y'all read "the return of the great depression" by Vox Day? very interesting and good expose of difference between keynesians and austrians.

[Obushma]

have y'all read "the return of the great depression" by Vox Day? very interesting and good expose of difference between keynesians and austrians.

Nope, but i've read this,

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6405/creaturet.jpg

...and yes, Paul Krugman is a joke along with the rest of the Keynesians.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Keynesian policy should be confined to as small a box as possible.

[mhgaffney]

What you guys fail to understand or appreciate is this simple principle: Whoever controls the amount of money in circulation controls the economy. Right now, the fed (a private bank) is in the driver's seat.

In every depression in our history -- private bankers shrank the money supply -- causing deflation. Why did they do this? Answer: To crush weaker banks and gobble up more companies at pennies on the dollar. They also do this to create wars -- because they always profit no matter who wins.

Today we are in a similar situation. The US Treasury borrowed trillions from the fed at interest -- then gave it back to the bankers in the form of the bail out.

Instead of loaning out the $$$ to main street to recover the US economy the bankers have mostly sat on the cash -- or used it to consolidate their balance sheets. They've also bought US Treasury bonds -- in their view a more secure investment than loaning $$ to consumers and small business at the present low interest rates. Thus, the economy is stifled.

Notice how the money goes in a circle -- and each time it goes around the bankers take another cut. It's a legal skimming racket.

This is part of the total picture and why our economy is now driven by speculation instead of by producing products and commodities.

Krugman is simply saying that government must force the issue -- if the bankers are too irresponsible to do so. Krugman is right. FDR did this during the 1930s -- to stimulate the economy. That was Keynsian logic. FDR was pilloried by the bankers as a traitor to his class -- but his spending greatly alleviated the suffering of the people.

Of course, as we know, even then FDR's spending was not enough. It took the vast expenditures of WW II to bring us out of the Great Depression. That was Keynsian logic also.

Being fiscally responsible today means ending the grossly wasteful wars. It also means abolishing the federal reserve system. The US Treasury must print money at ZERO interest for our nation.

This is the only move that will save us today because things are so far gone.
We must abolish the central bank that has pillaged the American people for nearly a century -- and now threatens to make us a nation of serfs.
MHG

[Rohirrim]

The Tea Partiers and the Right Wingers studiously avoid the suffering of people. And when they do address it, they simply blame the suffering for their own plight. They imagine policy in a vacuum. Whatever it takes to ensure ideological purity. The poor are poor because they are lazy and stupid. The rich are rich because they are brilliant go-getters. It's a cartoon world.

[barryr]

The liberal diseased mind believes those that do should give all to those that don't. And don't believe the crap they spew, it isn't just taking from the wealthy unless you consider anyone that has any kind of job and a car as wealthy. There isn't much of a middle class anymore since they have ended up taxed to death and it will continue with this admin. Wow, Obama cut taxes. Meanwhile, taxes in everyday items go up, which mean more to most people than April 15.

[mhgaffney]

Barryr,

You don't get it. The people you are calling liberal are not true liberals. They are neo liberals. Big difference. Just as conservatives are no longer conservative -- but neo conservative.

I am not a liberal. I am a radical. Check out this analysis by a fellow radical about the death of true liberalism:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26658.htm

[epicSocialism4tw]

The Tea Partiers and the Right Wingers studiously avoid the suffering of people. And when they do address it, they simply blame the suffering for their own plight. They imagine policy in a vacuum. Whatever it takes to ensure ideological purity. The poor are poor because they are lazy and stupid. The rich are rich because they are brilliant go-getters. It's a cartoon world.

I have spent a goodly portion of my life working for peanuts literally in service of the poor. By my own free choice. To my material and physical detriment. I literally risked my life. Thousands of people do the same every day in this country and around the world, and they go about it gladly and joyously just as I do and even moreso.

Can you say the same?

One of my favorite parts of the job was when we would get seasonal volunteers and I could see their faces brighten with joy as they got to reap the rewards of service. I got a chance to be there with them and to help them along as they learned the value of such service.

Its the go-getters who show up in force. Its the go getters who carry food to a door, and after being introduced to a family end up paying their electric bill and buying ALL of Christmas for the kids. We're not talking about cheapo government issue lincoln logs. We're talking high quality clothes and lavish gifts for the entire family. They may be tight when it comes to business, but when it comes to giving in their personal lives, the small business people give until it overflows. The data backs that up.

Its only those who do not understand the joy of service and giving who want to force people to give their discretionary income to the government.

[Requiem]

You didn't risk **** you pants-****ting monolith humper.

[mhgaffney]

McSkillet,

If what you say is true about the services you provide to the poor -- how did your head get stuffed so full of nonsense?

One would think you would know that Jesus was not a Capitalist - but a true commie.

The early Christians lived in voluntary poverty -- shared their belongings -- and referred to themselves as "the poor" --

The evidence is in the Epistles of Paul.

[DBruleU]

You didn't risk **** you pants-****ting monolith humper.

There's a reason you're ignored...because you're an immature LABF wanna be.

[epicSocialism4tw]

McSkillet,

If what you say is true about the services you provide to the poor -- how did your head get stuffed so full of nonsense?

One would think you would know that Jesus was not a Capitalist - but a true commie.

The early Christians lived in voluntary poverty -- shared their belongings -- and referred to themselves as "the poor" --

The evidence is in the Epistles of Paul.

Jesus also explicitly separated the Church from the government, and intended no sort of theocracy. In fact, he lost momentum in his movement because he would not accept a position of political leadership.

Salvation is an entirely individual pursuit. It is up to you and your own will as to whether or not you will serve God. Tithing (10% by the way) was endorsed by Jesus. And to Jesus, giving money to your Church was much more important than giving it to your government, though Jesus advocated peaceful interaction with oppressive governments.

If you feel moved to service, then serve. Do your part. Live your life in poverty if thats what you choose. That's what I chose. That's not everybody's choice. If there were no resource-gatherers there would be no resources. There are different parts of the body. Each has a different purpose.

It is not your right to force others into poverty because you feel that you need to judge the way they live their lives according to what they believe God has in store for them.

[Requiem]

There's a reason you're ignored...because you're an immature LABF wanna be.

I see you put the Jergen's away early tonight. I guess pounding off to Leviticus can be quite tiresome.

[DBruleU]

I see you put the Jergen's away early tonight. I guess pounding off to Leviticus can be quite tiresome.

Recently married...don't need your bed time oil.

[barryr]

There's a reason you're ignored...because you're an immature LABF wanna be.

LOL, so true! Death threats and threats about employers gets old. He's nuts and a :clown:

[Obushma]

Barryr,

You don't get it. The people you are calling liberal are not true liberals. They are neo liberals. Big difference.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26658.htm

People like Ro are a perfect example of a Neo-Liberal. Calling for the nuking of an entire nation, blind faith in Keynesian economics and the fed, doesn't speak up against the war unless it suits his purposes, doesn't care about the average citizen, just as long as his stock portfolio stays above average. People like Ro are easy to spot, just ask them who their favorite president was. It will most likely be FDR or WW, the guys who facilitated this globalism movement.

[Obushma]

Ro is to Liberal, what Bush is to Conservative.

[Rohirrim]

People like Ro are a perfect example of a Neo-Liberal. Calling for the nuking of an entire nation, blind faith in Keynesian economics and the fed, doesn't speak up against the war unless it suits his purposes, doesn't care about the average citizen, just as long as his stock portfolio stays above average. People like Ro are easy to spot, just ask them who their favorite president was. It will most likely be FDR or WW, the guys who facilitated this globalism movement.

The reason I've stopped responding to your posts is a philosophical one.

I hypothesize that when an individual is trying his hardest to shove his head up his own ass, one should stand back and try not to interfere.

[Obushma]

The reason I've stopped responding to your posts is a philosophical one.

I hypothesize that when an individual is trying his hardest to shove his head up his own ass, one should stand back and try not to interfere.

Perfect, not that I expect a neo-liberal boot heel licker like yourself, to like what I have to say. Don't worry, we'll be pushing you back into the gutter you crawled out of soon enough.

[Rohirrim]

Perfect, not that I expect a neo-liberal boot heel licker like yourself, to like what I have to say. Don't worry, we'll be pushing you back into the gutter you crawled out of soon enough.

Whatchoo mean "we," paleface?

[Obushma]

Whatchoo mean "we," paleface?

All the people in America that don't want to see Globalism pushed on us, and that would be colored face to you son :afro:

Establishment boot licker, you're softer then a bake sale Ro.

[Rohirrim]

All the people in America that don't want to see Globalism pushed on us, and that would be colored face to you son :afro:

Establishment boot licker, you're softer then a bake sale Ro.

Oh, so the Left is where you will find the proponents of globalism? Yeah, there we are, sitting in on the boardroom meetings of Exxon and BP and Halliburton and GE, mapping out our takeover strategy for the world. Ha!

[Requiem]

Recently married...don't need your bed time oil.

Ah, so you go with the Boy Scout Technique to Deuteronomy with O Come, All ye Faithful playing in the background.

This is like Clue.

[Taco John]

The Tea Partiers and the Right Wingers studiously avoid the suffering of people. And when they do address it, they simply blame the suffering for their own plight. They imagine policy in a vacuum. Whatever it takes to ensure ideological purity. The poor are poor because they are lazy and stupid. The rich are rich because they are brilliant go-getters. It's a cartoon world.


"suffering"

I grew up drinking powdered milk. We were poor as dirt. We didn't call it "suffering." We called it life, and dreamed of better days ahead. They came. Not because of government assistance, but because my parents studiously tried to better their own plight. They decided to work their way out of the situation they were in.

In the end, it was a continuous string of good choices that put them on the path upwards. That's truly the only thing that ever gets it done.

[Arkie]

have y'all read "the return of the great depression" by Vox Day? very interesting and good expose of difference between keynesians and austrians.

Keynesian vs. Austrian in a rap anthem
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[Obushma]

Oh, so the Left is where you will find the proponents of globalism? Yeah, there we are, sitting in on the boardroom meetings of Exxon and BP and Halliburton and GE, mapping out our takeover strategy for the world. Ha!

LMAO, so what are you trying to say? That the Rove's and Cheney's are the ones pushing world government, the neocons?

If you truly believe that, then you are stupider then I thought.

Let me give you the knowledge you seek.

Strauss, Kristol and Buckley knew the neo-liberal agenda was the creation of a world government. They figured, why should we share, the world can bow to the United States and Israel, hence the creation of neoconservativism and political zionism . You see, the United States financiers decided they didn't want to be under the boot of the European financiers, thus becoming the same monster with a different agenda.

So now you have two financial houses who at one time were very close, in fact, the European house helped to nurture and grow the United States house. These two financial houses have funded every side, of every war, you can think of. One side is no better then the other, they are both thorns in the side of liberty.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

"suffering"

I grew up drinking powdered milk. We were poor as dirt. We didn't call it "suffering." We called it life, and dreamed of better days ahead. They came. Not because of government assistance, but because my parents studiously tried to better their own plight. They decided to work their way out of the situation they were in.

In the end, it was a continuous string of good choices that put them on the path upwards. That's truly the only thing that ever gets it done.

How about your college years?

No assistance there?

I just ask because I seem to remember hearing you credit Clinton there.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Strauss, Kristol and Buckley knew the neo-liberal agenda was the creation of a world government.

Ha!

Are you still confusing liberalism with neoliberalism?

I know the two names sound alike, but neither one has anything in common with the other.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Quotes <big><small><big>

"When it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you got to grow up and realize there's a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy. Of course the Democrats are disappointing. That's what makes them Democrats. If they were any more frustrating they'd be your relatives. But in this country they are all that stands between you and darkest night. You know why their symbol is the letter 'D'?
Because it's a grade that means good enough, but just barely. You know why the Republican symbol is 'R'? Because it's the noise a pirate makes when he robs you and feeds you to a shark."

- Bill Maher </big></small></big><big><small><big></big></small></big><big><small><big> Link (http://american-conservativevalues.com/blog/2010/10/bill-maher-calls-gop-%E2%80%98a-deadly-enemy/)</big></small></big>

[Obushma]

Ha!

Are you still confusing liberalism with neoliberalism?

I know the two names sound alike, but neither one has anything in common with the other.

Yeah you're right, liberalism was co-opted by neoliberalism a long time ago. Kinda like what the neoconservatives are trying to do to the Ron Paul inspired Tea Party.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The Tea Party movement: deluded and inspired by billionaires

By funding numerous rightwing organisations, the mega-rich Koch brothers have duped millions into supporting big business




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The Tea Party movement is remarkable in two respects. It is one of the biggest exercises in false consciousness the world has seen – and the biggest Astroturf operation in history. These accomplishments are closely related.

An Astroturf campaign is a fake grassroots movement: it purports to be a spontaneous uprising of concerned citizens, but in reality it is founded and funded by elite interests. Some Astroturf campaigns have no grassroots component at all. Others catalyse and direct real mobilisations. The Tea Party belongs in the second category. It is mostly composed of passionate, well-meaning people who think they are fighting elite power, unaware that they have been organised by the very interests they believe they are confronting. We now have powerful evidence that the movement was established and has been guided with the help of money from billionaires and big business. Much of this money, as well as much of the strategy and staffing, were provided by two brothers who run what they call "the biggest company you've never heard of" (http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2008/10/15/Profile-of-Billionaire-David-Koch/index3.html).

Charles and David Koch own 84% of Koch Industries (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/13/tea-party-billionaire-koch-brothers), the second-largest private company in the United States. It runs oil refineries, coal suppliers, chemical plants and logging firms, and turns over roughly $100bn a year; the brothers are each worth $21bn. The company has had to pay tens of millions of dollars in fines and settlements for oil and chemical spills and other industrial accidents (http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/Global/usa/report/2010/3/koch-industries-secretly-fund.pdf). The Kochs want to pay less tax, keep more profits and be restrained by less regulation. Their challenge has been to persuade the people harmed by this agenda that it's good for them.

In July 2010, David Koch told New York magazine: "I've never been to a Tea Party event. No one representing the Tea Party has ever even approached me." (http://nymag.com/news/features/67285/) But a fascinating new film – (Astro)Turf Wars (http://astroturfwars.org/), by Taki Oldham – tells a fuller story. Oldham infiltrated some of the movement's key organising events, including the 2009 Defending the American Dream (http://defendingthedream.org/beta/) summit, convened by a group called Americans for Prosperity (AFP). The film shows David Koch addressing the summit. "Five years ago," he explains, "my brother Charles and I provided the funds to start Americans for Prosperity. It's beyond my wildest dreams how AFP has grown into this enormous organisation."

A convener tells the crowd how AFP mobilised opposition to Barack Obama's healthcare reforms. "We hit the button and we started doing the Twittering and Facebook and the phonecalls and the emails, and you turned up!" Then a series of AFP organisers tell Mr Koch how they have set up dozens of Tea Party events in their home states. He nods and beams from the podium like a chief executive receiving rosy reports from his regional sales directors. Afterwards, the delegates crowd into AFP workshops, where they are told how to run further Tea Party events.

Americans for Prosperity is one of several groups set up by the Kochs to promote their politics. We know their foundations have given it at least $5m, but few such records are in the public domain and the total could be much higher. It has toured the country organising rallies against healthcare reform and the Democrats' attempts to tackle climate change. It provided the key organising tools that set the Tea Party running.
The movement began when CNBC's Rick Santelli called from the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (http://www.cnbc.com/id/29283701/Rick_Santelli_s_Shout_Heard_Round_the_World) for a bankers' revolt against the undeserving poor. (He proposed that the traders should hold a tea party to dump derivative securities in Lake Michigan to prevent Obama's plan to "subsidise the losers": by which he meant people whose mortgages had fallen into arrears.) On the same day, Americans for Prosperity set up a Tea Party Facebook page and started organising Tea Party events.
Oldham's film shows how AFP crafted the movement's messages and drafted its talking points. The New Yorker magazine, in the course of a remarkable exposure of the Koch brothers' funding networks, interviewed some of their former consultants. (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all) "The Koch brothers gave the money that founded [the Tea Party]," one of them explained. "It's like they put the seeds in the ground. Then the rainstorm comes, and the frogs come out of the mud – and they're our candidates!" Another observed that the Kochs are smart. "This rightwing, redneck stuff works for them. They see this as a way to get things done without getting dirty themselves."

AFP is one of several groups established by the Koch brothers. They set up the Cato Institute, the first free-market thinktank in the United States. They also founded the Mercatus Centre at George Mason University, which now fills the role once played by the economics department at Chicago University as the originator of extreme neoliberal ideas. Fourteen of the 23 regulations that George W Bush put on his hitlist were, according to the Wall Street Journal, first suggested by academics working at the Mercatus Centre (http://astroturfwars.org/).

The Kochs have lavished money on more than 30 other advocacy groups, including the Heritage Foundation, the Manhattan Institute, the George C Marshall Institute, the Reason Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute. These bodies have been instrumental in turning politicians away from environmental laws, social spending, taxing the rich and distributing wealth. They have shaped the widespread demand for small government. The Kochs ensure that their money works for them. "If we're going to give a lot of money," David Koch explained to a libertarian journalist, "we'll make darn sure they spend it in a way that goes along with our intent. And if they make a wrong turn and start doing things we don't agree with, we withdraw funding."

Most of these bodies call themselves "free-market thinktanks", but their trick – as (Astro)Turf Wars points out – is to conflate crony capitalism with free enterprise, and free enterprise with personal liberty. Between them they have constructed the philosophy that informs the Tea Party movement: its members mobilise for freedom, unaware that the freedom they demand is freedom for corporations to trample them into the dirt. The thinktanks that the Kochs have funded devise the game and the rules by which it is played; Americans for Prosperity coaches and motivates the team.
Astroturfing is now taking off in the United Kingdom. Earlier this month

Spinwatch showed how a fake grassroots group set up by health insurers helped shape the Tories' NHS reforms (http://www.spinwatch.org.uk/blogs-mainmenu-29/tamasin-cave-mainmenu-107/5391-private-health-lobby-out-in-force-at-tory-conference). Billionaires and corporations are capturing the political process everywhere; anyone with an interest in democracy should be thinking about how to resist them. Nothing is real any more. Nothing is as it seems.

• A fully referenced version of this story can be found at www.monbiot.com (http://www.monbiot.com/)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yeah you're right, the conservative movement was co-opted by neoliberalism a long time ago.

Fixed.

http://www.bartcop.com/vampire_oligarch.jpg

[epicSocialism4tw]

When the Democrat propaganda clearinghouses are churning out ridiculous propaganda that villifies the Tea Party, you know that the Dems are running scared.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

When the Democrat propaganda clearinghouses are churning out ridiculous propaganda that villifies the Tea Party, you know that the Dems are running scared.

Ha ha ha! Ha!

In your nutty alternate universe, every source is a "Democrat propaganda clearinghouse."

[epicSocialism4tw]

Ha ha ha!

In your nutty alternate universe, every source is a "Democrat propaganda clearinghouse."

Nope.

Just the ones you spam this forum with every day.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Nope.

Just the ones you spam this forum with every day.

That would include just about every news outlet in the country besides Fox in your view.

[epicSocialism4tw]

That would include just about every news outlet in the country besides Fox in your view.

http://www.roflshirts.com/images/obama-NOPE.gif

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.roflshirts.com/images/obama-NOPE.gif

Now there's a slogan that accurately summarizes all that your party has to offer.

[TonyR]

The Tea Party movement is remarkable in two respects. It is one of the biggest exercises in false consciousness the world has seen – and the biggest Astroturf operation in history.

It really is remarkable. Brilliant political strategy.

[TonyR]

That's what I chose.

Did you choose it or did it choose you? And even if the former is true you need to realize that millions face the latter reality and that they don't have the resources or value system to do or know any different. The cycle of poverty is much more complicated, profound and pervasive then you seem to realize.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Did you choose it or did it choose you? And even if the former is true you need to realize that millions face the latter reality and that they don't have the resources or value system to do or know any different. The cycle of poverty is much more complicated, profound and pervasive then you seem to realize.

Ha!

Sorry guy, but you really have no idea what you are talking about.

[ghwk]

I have spent a goodly portion of my life working for peanuts literally in service of the poor. By my own free choice. To my material and physical detriment. I literally risked my life. Thousands of people do the same every day in this country and around the world, and they go about it gladly and joyously just as I do and even moreso.

Can you say the same?

One of my favorite parts of the job was when we would get seasonal volunteers and I could see their faces brighten with joy as they got to reap the rewards of service. I got a chance to be there with them and to help them along as they learned the value of such service.

Its the go-getters who show up in force. Its the go getters who carry food to a door, and after being introduced to a family end up paying theikKr electric bill and buying ALL of Christmas for the kids. We're not talking about cheapo government issue lincoln logs. We're talking high quality cmlothes and lavish gifts for the entire family. They may be tight when it comes to business, but when it comes to giving in their personal lives, the small business people give until it overflows. The data backs that up.

Its only those who do not understand the joy of service and giving who want to force people to give their discretionary income to the government.

BWAHAHA!! What a post, you paint yourself to be the Mother Theresa of the mane when the work you do is just self serving and probably the only work you can get. Look at what you post here, the threads you start. You you are the hypo-Christ. Mother Theresa, a true Christian, would spit in your eyes. She never once bragged about her work like a badge of honor like you do. Geez the afterlife is gonna suck a whole lot worse for your than this one does.

[epicSocialism4tw]

BWAHAHA!! What a post, you paint yourself to be the Mother Theresa of the mane when the work you do is just self serving and probably the only work you can get. Look at what you post here, the threads you start. You you are the hypo-Christ. Mother Theresa, a true Christian, would spit in your eyes. She never once bragged about her work like a badge of honor like you do. Geez the afterlife is gonna suck a whole lot worse for your than this one does.

Ah yes, another attack on charity work. Well done.

You neglected to mention that I was responding to this:
The Tea Partiers and the Right Wingers studiously avoid the suffering of people. And when they do address it, they simply blame the suffering for their own plight. They imagine policy in a vacuum. Whatever it takes to ensure ideological purity. The poor are poor because they are lazy and stupid. The rich are rich because they are brilliant go-getters. It's a cartoon world.

I have plenty of professional experience to know that this is a falsehood. Its a falsehood that is propagated despite data that proves people like yourself and Rohirrim to be the ones who dont understand the less fortunate, and who arent committed to helping them.

You want data? I got it.

You want anecdotes? I have more where that came from.

You want professional experience? I have plenty of that as well.

But here's the deal. You dont want any of that. You are trolling this forum intentionally slandering me because you dont agree with my politics. And yet you call me names and berate me because I have done charity work? Really? That's acceptable behavior to you?

It speaks more about your own problems than mine. Good luck with all of that.

[ghwk]

Ah yes, another attack on charity work. Well done.

You neglected to mention that I was responding to this:


I have plenty of professional experience to know that this is a falsehood. Its a falsehood that is propagated despite data that proves people like yourself and Rohirrim to be the ones who dont understand the less fortunate, and who arent committed to helping them.

You want data? I got it.

You want anecdotes? I have more where that came from.

You want professional experience? I have plenty of that as well.

But here's the deal. You dont want any of that. You are trolling this forum intentionally slandering me because you dont agree with my politics. And yet you call me names and berate me because I have done charity work? Really? That's acceptable behavior to you?

It speaks more about your own problems than mine. Good luck with all of that.

OOOHH! Scary is that a Halloween post? Oops! Wait! Halloween is a satanist ritual so I guess you must be serious? Hilarious!

[epicSocialism4tw]

OOOHH! Scary is that a Halloween post? Oops! Wait! Halloween is a satanist ritual so I guess you must be serious? Hilarious!

Um...what?

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/breathalyzer.jpg

[ghwk]

Yep at the end of it all you are smoke and mirrors, deflection with no substance, spew much but own up to nothing. Maybe I'll go find a cute picture to post now.

[barryr]

BWAHAHA!! What a post, you paint yourself to be the Mother Theresa of the mane when the work you do is just self serving and probably the only work you can get. Look at what you post here, the threads you start. You you are the hypo-Christ. Mother Theresa, a true Christian, would spit in your eyes. She never once bragged about her work like a badge of honor like you do. Geez the afterlife is gonna suck a whole lot worse for your than this one does.

Why don't you do something for someone else and not just for your self?Maybe you will know the good it provides for people. But no, typical liberals like to talk the talk, but little else. Weak.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Yep at the end of it all you are smoke and mirrors, deflection with no substance, spew much but own up to nothing. Maybe I'll go find a cute picture to post now.

I hope that tomorrow, God blesses you with the kind of thing that makes you at peace and personally content. I hope that the rest of your life is filled with joy and peace and contentment, and that it spills over into your family and friends.

[ghwk]

I hope that tomorrow, God blesses you with the kind of thing that makes you at peace and personally content. I hope that the rest of your life is filled with joy and peace and contentment, and that it spills over into your family and friends.

Umm, no you don't or you wouldn't post the sort of things you do here.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I hope that tomorrow, God blesses you with the kind of thing that makes you at peace and personally content. I hope that the rest of your life is filled with joy and peace and contentment, and that it spills over into your family and friends.

You should be asking for these things for yourself, because it's abundantly clear you don't have any of them.

[TonyR]

I hope that tomorrow, God blesses you with the kind of thing that makes you at peace and personally content. I hope that the rest of your life is filled with joy and peace and contentment, and that it spills over into your family and friends.

You're such a joke. Your anger, discontent and bitterness are palpable in every post. You project your weakness and failings onto everyone and everything else. You're a sad human being whose politics directly contradict everything you claim to support. You need to help yourself before you help others.

[mhgaffney]

McSkillet says he works with the poor out of Christian compassion.

Yet, he identifies with the power elite- - the super rich. Go figure.

[epicSocialism4tw]

McSkillet says he works with the poor out of Christian compassion.

Yet, he identifies with the power elite- - the super rich. Go figure.

Ha!

Yeah, that's it.

[barryr]

Interesting how so many liberals respond when they are shown others do things to help others while they just talk about it. Truth hurts.

[Requiem]

There is a difference between actually doing charity work and claiming to do it.

But you should know all about charity, Barry.

I'm sure you enjoy the government footing your bills for you ****ing up on your own accord back in the 90s.

[barryr]

There is a difference between being a man and not some jughead weakling who spends days sending threats to posters. But hopefully I will grow up to be a man and not continue to be an unemployed idiot who claims he has some great resume nobody wants to read.

Fixed.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The Tea Partiers and the Right Wingers studiously avoid the suffering of people. And when they do address it, they simply blame the suffering for their own plight. They imagine policy in a vacuum. Whatever it takes to ensure ideological purity. The poor are poor because they are lazy and stupid. The rich are rich because they are brilliant go-getters. It's a cartoon world.

Yep.

Krugman summed it up pretty well himself...

The resurgent Republicans have learned nothing from the economic crisis, except that doing everything they can to undermine Mr. Obama is a winning political strategy. Tax cuts and deregulation are still the alpha and omega of their economic vision.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/25/opinion/25krugman.html?src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

and...

And if they take one or both houses of Congress, complete policy paralysis — which will mean, among other things, a cutoff of desperately needed aid to the unemployed and a freeze on further help for state and local governments — is a given. The only question is whether we’ll have political chaos as well, with Republicans’ shutting down the government at some point over the next two years. And the odds are that we will.
Is there any hope for a better outcome? Maybe, just maybe, voters will have second thoughts about handing power back to the people who got us into this mess, and a weaker-than-expected Republican showing at the polls will give Mr. Obama a second chance to turn the economy around.


Definitely more reality-based than the OP.

[Atwater 27]

Yeah. Let's spend money we don't have to fix the **** ups we just made.
Brilliant economic policy. Was the Keynesian theory drawn up by an infant?
It's failed brilliantly every time.

[barryr]

Certain policies fail time after time, but let's go ahead and do them again anyway.

[Rohirrim]

Yeah. Let's spend money we don't have to fix the **** ups we just made.
Brilliant economic policy. Was the Keynesian theory drawn up by an infant?
It's failed brilliantly every time.

The period of highest growth and productivity in American history was during the 50s and 60s when Keynesian "demand side" economic policies were in force and tax rates on the wealthy were high. Since Reagan, and the adoption of "supply side" and Hayek inspired policies, including massive tax cuts for the rich, our economy has gone in the ****ter.

[epicSocialism4tw]

The period of highest growth and productivity in American history was during the 50s and 60s when Keynesian "demand side" economic policies were in force and tax rates on the wealthy were high. Since Reagan, and the adoption of "supply side" and Hayek inspired policies, including massive tax cuts for the rich, our economy has gone in the ****ter.

Yeah, the economy that the Reagan administration laid the foundation for and the subsequent boom were terrible. Ha!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yeah, the economy that the Reagan administration laid the foundation for and the subsequent boom were terrible. Ha!

What "boom?"

Mort like an orgy of borrowing (to make the economy look good) and spending.

[Rohirrim]

A boom and a bubble are two different things.