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24champ
10-24-2010, 07:41 PM
I remember reading various press articles about how the Broncos were so good at home. Now it seems that it is gone...

Consider this, Broncos have lost 4 straight games to divisional opponents at home.

1. ) Nov. 22nd, 2009 vs Chargers....32-3 loss
2. ) Dec 20th, 2009 vs Raiders...20-19 loss
3.) January 3rd , 2010 vs Chiefs...44-24 loss
4.) October 24, 2010 vs Raiders 59-14 loss


That is a combined 155-60 score @ home to divisional opponents. Three of the four being blowouts. That shouldn't be happening. Last year we were at .500 at home, this year already off to a 1-3 start. What's going on? :kubiak:???

bronco militia
10-24-2010, 07:43 PM
the brocos are under .500 at home since 2006

baja
10-24-2010, 07:49 PM
Ya ever since the dynamited Mile High and doubled ticket prices to pay for the inferior replacement.

Clockwork Orange
10-24-2010, 07:50 PM
That is just a god damn disgrace.

UberBroncoMan
10-24-2010, 07:51 PM
Has it really?

Beantown Bronco
10-24-2010, 07:52 PM
It's gone pretty much everywhere. Talent trumps location almost every time. The teams with the best "recent" home field advantages really don't have intimidating/loud stadiums (I'm looking at you New England). They just have the better teams.

tebowisdabomb
10-24-2010, 07:53 PM
You guys were at home? Damn where were all the fans? it was quieter than Church

24champ
10-24-2010, 07:54 PM
the brocos are under .500 at home since 2006

srsly?


I wouldn't think the Broncos would be subpar at home since 2006.

baja
10-24-2010, 07:55 PM
It's gone pretty much everywhere. Talent trumps location almost every time. The teams with the best "recent" home field advantages really don't have intimidating/loud stadiums (I'm looking at you New England). They just have the better teams.

Ever since they lowered Denver and took away the altitude advantage we have had no Home field advantage.

It was dumb to lower Denver just to make the mountains higher.IMO.

Rascal
10-24-2010, 07:57 PM
heh...I was just about to post something about this.

Under McDaniels the Broncos home record against divisional opponents (and keep in mind that this is in the ****ty AFC West) is now 0-4 and they've been outscored 155-60 in those games.

gtown
10-24-2010, 07:58 PM
Ya ever since the dynamited Mile High and doubled ticket prices to pay for the inferior replacement.

This.

Denver is not the same football crazed town. At least not in the stadium. Also, it's hard to boo when you are drinking such a fabulous '98 cabernet.

OBF1
10-24-2010, 07:58 PM
Home field advantage has long since died in Denver. With the elevation working in our favor, it is kind of pathetic the way things have ended up the past number of years.

WABronco
10-24-2010, 07:59 PM
Aren't the denver fans a bunch of ****ing flat lining suburban whiteys? Wine and cheese, or whatever? PUSSIES.

They have a bunch of grungy looking dudes from the 90's up here in Seattle. They have a good home field advantage.

WABronco
10-24-2010, 08:00 PM
Home field advantage has long since died in Denver. With the elevation working in our favor, it is kind of pathetic the way things have ended up the past number of years.

The only way the elevation works in our favor is that it's deadly to a few players on other teams. That's it.

gtown
10-24-2010, 08:02 PM
Aren't the denver fans a bunch of ****ing flat lining suburban whiteys? Wine and cheese, or whatever? PUSSIES.

They have a bunch of grungy looking dudes from the 90's up here in Seattle. They have a good home field advantage.

There just isn't the fanbase they once had. Ten years of mediocrity and a city full of transplants does that to a franchise.

bronco militia
10-24-2010, 08:02 PM
my bad....it's exactly .500 (18-18)

24champ
10-24-2010, 08:02 PM
Ever since they lowered Denver and took away the altitude advantage we have had no Home field advantage.

It was dumb to lower Denver just to make the mountains higher.IMO.

LOLwut?

TheChamp24
10-24-2010, 08:04 PM
What has happened to the home field advantage? A lack of talent and coaching.

Archer81
10-24-2010, 08:05 PM
Im actually noticing this in other places as well.


:Broncos:

bronco militia
10-24-2010, 08:06 PM
IMO, the helmet radios have eliminated the 12th man

peacepipe
10-24-2010, 08:06 PM
this stadium is not as loud and never will be. you could take the same crowd from the old stadium and put them in the new one and it wouldn't be louder.

OBF1
10-24-2010, 08:07 PM
The only way the elevation works in our favor is that it's deadly to a few players on other teams. That's it.

Serious? You ever run a 5k or have 300lb guys pushing you around for 4 quarters?

baja
10-24-2010, 08:09 PM
IMO, the helmet radios have eliminated the 12th man

That's an interesting point. Never thought of that.

Archer81
10-24-2010, 08:10 PM
this stadium is not as loud and never will be. you could take the same crowd from the old stadium and put them in the new one and it wouldn't be louder.


Winning fixes the "loud" factor. Last week vs NYJ the stadium was pretty damn loud when you have the announcers having to shout JUST to be audible to do play by play. And the playoff game vs NE was ridiculous all game. Denver wins consistently, that part of homefield comes back.

Have to win though...


:Broncos:

Beantown Bronco
10-24-2010, 08:12 PM
this stadium is not as loud and never will be. you could take the same crowd from the old stadium and put them in the new one and it wouldn't be louder.

Actually, this I would disagree with. This new stadium was specifically designed to be louder, so if all other variables are the same, there is no reason to believe it would be less loud.

epicSocialism4tw
10-24-2010, 08:13 PM
This.

Denver is not the same football crazed town. At least not in the stadium. Also, it's hard to boo when you are drinking such a fabulous '98 cabernet.

Cheering and booing are so proletariat.

baja
10-24-2010, 08:14 PM
Actually, this I would disagree with. This new stadium was specifically designed to be louder, so if all other variables are the same, there is no reason to believe it would be less loud.

The cheese absorbs sound and makes it quieter

bronco militia
10-24-2010, 08:16 PM
IMO, the altitude is not as much of a factor because todays players are better/healthier athletes.

24champ
10-24-2010, 08:17 PM
IMO, the helmet radios have eliminated the 12th man

That, along with in game contests, commercials and other BS in between plays and time out. Now we have the new fanvision to keep the fans quiet and busy. Owners don't give a s***, it's more money for them.

Beantown Bronco
10-24-2010, 08:19 PM
IMO, the altitude is not as much of a factor because todays players are better/healthier athletes.

And they substitute so much with all the specialty packages teams use any more.....tough to wear down defensive lines when most seem to play fewer than 35-40 snaps over the course of a game.

bronco militia
10-24-2010, 08:24 PM
And they substitute so much with all the specialty packages teams use any more.....tough to wear down defensive lines when most seem to play fewer than 35-40 snaps over the course of a game.

yeah, that's another good point.

maybe an 18 game schedule will help ;D

Hercules Rockefeller
10-24-2010, 08:24 PM
Seats are in the upper deck, majority of the fans up there: don't know the game and when to cheer/not cheer and spend most of the game coming from and going to the beer lines.

The wine and cheese argument is weak because there are stadium-wide issues.

People are still just arriving at the game late in the 1st every game.

baja
10-24-2010, 08:25 PM
And they substitute so much with all the specialty packages teams use any more.....tough to wear down defensive lines when most seem to play fewer than 35-40 snaps over the course of a game.

I think we should dump Colon Blow in the opponents Gatorade

Archer81
10-24-2010, 08:27 PM
I think we should dump Colon Blow in the opponents Gatorade


Visine.

Epic win.

:Broncos:

WABronco
10-24-2010, 08:28 PM
Serious? You ever run a 5k or have 300lb guys pushing you around for 4 quarters?

Bro I'm watching the games and I don't see us taking advantage of anything.

uplink
10-24-2010, 09:22 PM
Owners are throwing out the home field advantage by adopting stadium designs that focus on cash flow rather than fan noise level.

RhymesayersDU
10-25-2010, 12:34 AM
I think a big help would be to get the players wearing orange for every game.

Last week, I don't care what anybody says, that crowd was jacked up. Everybody wearing orange, going nuts, etc.

Now granted, it was built up a lot, it was dubbed "Orange Sunday," the mayor got involved, etc. I realize that might not happen every Sunday.

But what got me thinking was this -- somebody asked Lindsay Jones of the Post on Twitter why we didn't do this more often. Her reply was that it was "hard to ask fans to wear orange when the players don't."

I understand that a change of laundry might not help on the field as far as the players go and that we still need better talent, but I truly believe the crowd would get better and be more excited in unity wearing orange, waving those towels, etc.

TailgateNut
10-25-2010, 05:34 AM
I think a big help would be to get the players wearing orange for every game.

Last week, I don't care what anybody says, that crowd was jacked up. Everybody wearing orange, going nuts, etc.

Now granted, it was built up a lot, it was dubbed "Orange Sunday," the mayor got involved, etc. I realize that might not happen every Sunday.

But what got me thinking was this -- somebody asked Lindsay Jones of the Post on Twitter why we didn't do this more often. Her reply was that it was "hard to ask fans to wear orange when the players don't."

I understand that a change of laundry might not help on the field as far as the players go and that we still need better talent, but I truly believe the crowd would get better and be more excited in unity wearing orange, waving those towels, etc.


Oh geez, I can't recall a game they've won when they wore those orange uniforms. I can however recall games they've lost when wearing them.

It's not the color of the uni that wins games

RhymesayersDU
10-25-2010, 07:27 AM
Oh geez, I can't recall a game they've won when they wore those orange uniforms. I can however recall games they've lost when wearing them.

It's not the color of the uni that wins games

Like I said in my post, I know it won't help on the field. That's obvious. They could wear pink and it wouldn't matter. They need better talent.

But if we're talking a good homefield crowd, last week's crowd was really great and I think having them wear orange, getting the whole community to wear orange, etc, would make for a great homefield atmosphere. Again, I think the fans might get more into it is my point, since people are complaining that our fans aren't good, etc. Last week against NYJ, I saw a really jacked up crowd. I think it'd help.

bloodsunday
10-25-2010, 08:03 AM
I've given up my season tickets for this reason. I had tickets during the Super Bowl years and as soon as they went to the new stadium it all changed. Sure some of that was the fact that Elway retired and TD got hurt, rendering us an instant also-ran team. But a lot of it was the changes. The stadium isn't as loud -- it's not built the same way. The fan they cater to now is not the die-hard fan, it's a corporate guy willing to shell out 200 every week.

I know it's not P.C. to say this around here, but I'd rather put that $1200 toward the NFL Sunday ticket so that when Denver is getting hammered 59 - 14 I can watch an entertaining game.

Beantown Bronco
10-25-2010, 08:04 AM
I know it's not P.C. to say this around here, but I'd rather put that $1200 toward the NFL Sunday ticket so that when Denver is getting hammered 59 - 14 I can watch an entertaining game.

Man, directv is really fleecing you on their rates.

TailgateNut
10-25-2010, 09:31 AM
Like I said in my post, I know it won't help on the field. That's obvious. They could wear pink and it wouldn't matter. They need better talent.

But if we're talking a good homefield crowd, last week's crowd was really great and I think having them wear orange, getting the whole community to wear orange, etc, would make for a great homefield atmosphere. Again, I think the fans might get more into it is my point, since people are complaining that our fans aren't good, etc. Last week against NYJ, I saw a really jacked up crowd. I think it'd help.

Last weeks crowd was "great" because of several reasons depending on the "fan type". Some were elated because we were putting up one hell of a fight against a good Jets team. Some were giddy because they received some pretty little orange towels ROFL! and the remainder were just following the herd.

The majority of the fans are either clueless or too damn lazy to make noise. I've hated that dump since the night Eddie Mac's career ending injury.

RhymesayersDU
10-25-2010, 09:51 AM
Last weeks crowd was "great" because of several reasons depending on the "fan type". Some were elated because we were putting up one hell of a fight against a good Jets team. Some were giddy because they received some pretty little orange towels ROFL! and the remainder were just following the herd.

The majority of the fans are either clueless or too damn lazy to make noise. I've hated that dump since the night Eddie Mac's career ending injury.

Oh ok. Denver has no fans at all. I get it now.

24champ
10-25-2010, 12:51 PM
Last weeks crowd was "great" because of several reasons depending on the "fan type". Some were elated because we were putting up one hell of a fight against a good Jets team. Some were giddy because they received some pretty little orange towels ROFL! and the remainder were just following the herd.

The majority of the fans are either clueless or too damn lazy to make noise. I've hated that dump since the night Eddie Mac's career ending injury.

How did you handle yesterdays game? Did you stay for the whole game?

Rohirrim
10-25-2010, 12:54 PM
Put a QB named Elway in the huddle and your stadium will tend to make a little noise. Winning cures everything.

TheReverend
10-25-2010, 12:56 PM
IMO, the helmet radios have eliminated the 12th man

That's silly. What's the difference to the QB getting the call in his helmet, or getting it standing right next to the coach? The sound doesn't become a factor until they get into the snap count and helmet radios certainly have no effect on that.

TailgateNut
10-25-2010, 01:15 PM
How did you handle yesterdays game? Did you stay for the whole game?


I stayed 'till about 7 minutes were left in the fourth. By then my daughter and wife were just about to stab me if I hadn't left. The disgust/ disbelief acted like a magnet between my ass and my seat. I stopped being a 12th man in the middle of the thisrd quarter. I figured the team didn't give a ****, so why should I!

Taco John
10-25-2010, 01:17 PM
Seats are in the upper deck, majority of the fans up there: don't know the game and when to cheer/not cheer and spend most of the game coming from and going to the beer lines.

The wine and cheese argument is weak because there are stadium-wide issues.

People are still just arriving at the game late in the 1st every game.


If people arrived late yesterday, they were in for a shock when they got to their seats and looked up at the scoreboard.

missingnumber7
10-25-2010, 01:17 PM
Last weeks crowd was "great" because of several reasons depending on the "fan type". Some were elated because we were putting up one hell of a fight against a good Jets team. Some were giddy because they received some pretty little orange towels ROFL! and the remainder were just following the herd.

The majority of the fans are either clueless or too damn lazy to make noise. I've hated that dump since the night Eddie Mac's career ending injury.

You forgot the ones that were masturbating when Tebow walked on the field, and then the ones that were doing that gator crap when he scored.

broncocalijohn
10-25-2010, 01:33 PM
Ya ever since the dynamited Mile High and doubled ticket prices to pay for the inferior replacement.

but, but I got cup holders and an actual seat! I would rather not have these luxuries in the south stands if they would bring back the metal lining everyone's feet. Who was the F ing genious to go for the "look" and take out a huge noise advantage for the home team? Another example when elitist, high end companies have no clue about the product or blue collar attitude of the buying public.
24champ, lately? This crap has been going on since the new stadium it seems.

TailgateNut
10-25-2010, 01:46 PM
You forgot the ones that were masturbating when Tebow walked on the field, and then the ones that were doing that gator crap when he scored.

No ****. Yesterday when they were chanting TebowTebowTebow, I chanted Morons, Morons, Morans.

The guy and his kid int he Tebow jersey didn't like it, but **** em!

TheReverend
10-25-2010, 02:14 PM
No ****. Yesterday when they were chanting TebowTebowTebow, I chanted Morons, Morons, Morans.

The guy and his kid int he Tebow jersey didn't like it, but **** em!

Yeah. I mean, if they put Tebow in we might've gotten humiliated at home by the Raiders, right?

TailgateNut
10-25-2010, 02:16 PM
Yeah. I mean, if they put Tebow in we might've gotten humiliated at home by the Raiders, right?

As if Jesus/ err Tebow could have turned that trainwreck around.ROFL!LOLHilarious!

bloodsunday
10-27-2010, 10:34 AM
Man, directv is really fleecing you on their rates.

It's in Yen :)

Obviously I have a little left over.