ORANGEMANE WEEKEND PART 2 : Broncos Vs. Cardinals Dec 12th (Planning Thread!)

[Sassy]

Orangemane Weekend Part 2
Who's going to be there? !Booya!

[Sassy]

Count us in! We have our room and game tickets...just need plane tickets!

[missingnumber7]

Count us in! We have our room and game tickets...just need plane tickets!

Where'd you guys get seats at?

[crawdad]

I should say Miles twisted my arm but it depends on my dog sitting duties ao I have to say Maybe. I really want to make this one but Roberta is going to FLA with her kids and I have dog sitting duties. It depends on her return date which I do not have at this point but will have soon. ( I forgot to ask her) She is leaving the 7th.

[Los Broncos]

For the ARI game? looks like were trying to make it, but I have some family problems, so it's kind of up in the air.

[Hogan11]

Where'd you guys get seats at?

116, Sass & I are in Sec 125, row 20, seats 7-9

[Hogan11]

Oh Man, we get our tickets today and Craw & Clady are iffy :( Hope things work out for you guys so you can make it!

[Sassy]

116, Sass & I are in Sec 125, row 20, seats 7-9

Cool! I have two "dates" for this one! !Booya!:thanku:

[Sassy]

PS OF1 is attending ;D

[Sassy]

Plan AZ here ;D

[Sassy]

Hotel + game ticket + flights = AZ is a GO!!!

[broncofan2438]

Hotel + game ticket + flights = AZ is a GO!!!

Dam you guys are good. I better get on it

[broncofan2438]

Plenty of parking passes on craigslist

[TailgateNut]

My wife and Daughter will be there.

[broncofan2438]

I am calling (5) hotels within 1 mile of the stadium today to find out rates and group rates.
Any idea on how many people might be interested?

[Sassy]

Ok so who are the WIMPS that are pulling out of this one?

[Sassy]

I am calling (5) hotels within 1 mile of the stadium today to find out rates and group rates.
Any idea on how many people might be interested?

No idea...we had our room awhile ago.

[TailgateNut]

Ok so who are the WIMPS that are pulling out of this one?

I'm sure My BETTER 1/2 and daughter will still be there. I do still need to book a flight and get tix for the two of them.

[Sassy]

I'm sure My BETTER 1/2 and daughter will still be there. I do still need to book a flight and get tix for the two of them.

:sunshine: I know...(I am in a mood!) FIESTY SASS!

[crawdad]

Ok so who are the WIMPS that are pulling out of this one?

Well, I might be pulling out. I am headed to Singapore Sunday for a week, but a customer called today to tell me that their unit will be installed in Malaysia before the end of the year. I am trying to figure out how both (Game and Malaysia trip) can happen in December. Two trips to Indonesia in thirty days time is not my idea of a good time!

[Sassy]

Well, I might be pulling out. I am headed to Singapore Sunday for a week, but a customer called today to tell me that their unit will be installed in Malaysia before the end of the year. I am trying to figure out how both (Game and Malaysia trip) can happen in December. Two trips to Indonesia in thirty days time is not my idea of a good time!

:( Thought it was a dog thing?

[Dendave]

Miles tried talking me into going...only problem is my wife is due with our first child on the 7th, i don't think i will be traveling anytime soon after that. Everyone have fun...a heads up...if there is a season next year, and depending on what date the game falls, we will be in Denver for the Detroit game.

[crawdad]

:( Thought it was a dog thing?

The dog thing was taken care of, now it is the Malaysia thing. I am trying to go to PHX first then on to Malaysia.

[Hogan11]

Well, I might be pulling out. I am headed to Singapore Sunday for a week, but a customer called today to tell me that their unit will be installed in Malaysia before the end of the year. I am trying to figure out how both (Game and Malaysia trip) can happen in December. Two trips to Indonesia in thirty days time is not my idea of a good time!

Singapore? Be careful out there.....with those crazy laws and fines they have, I wouldn't go to that place on a bet

[Hogan11]

Miles tried talking me into going...only problem is my wife is due with our first child on the 7th, i don't think i will be traveling anytime soon after that. Everyone have fun...a heads up...if there is a season next year, and depending on what date the game falls, we will be in Denver for the Detroit game.

Congrats on the upcoming arrival Dave!

You oughtta come to OM Weekend one of these years...good times are had by all.

[crawdad]

Singapore? Be careful out there.....with those crazy laws and fines they have, I wouldn't go to that place on a bet

Unfortunately I do not have much of a choice, my customer has a facility there and I have equipment to install.

[Hogan11]

Hey, anyone interested in the Coyotes & Stars Saturday night?

Should be able to get walk up tickets on the cheap.......thoughts?

[Hogan11]

Unfortunately I do not have much of a choice, my customer has a facility there and I have equipment to install.

Well, here's hoping you can make it.....keep us updated.

[missingnumber7]

Hey, anyone interested in the Coyotes & Stars Saturday night?

Should be able to get walk up tickets on the cheap.......thoughts?

Sarah and I might be, depends on the $$ situation. We still have to get a plane ticket:(

[Hogan11]

Sarah and I might be, depends on the $$ situation. We still have to get a plane ticket:(

I think it's 15 smacks for the cheap seats, but I'm unsure of that

[missingnumber7]

I think it's 15 smacks for the cheap seats, but I'm unsure of that

I'm watching on vet tix maybe I can find some free ones there.

[Hogan11]

I'm watching on vet tix maybe I can find some free ones there.

Good plan. Not sure if Sass would be up for upper deck anyways.....

[Sassy]

The dog thing was taken care of, now it is the Malaysia thing. I am trying to go to PHX first then on to Malaysia.

Don't you just hate when work interferes with life! :spit:
That sucks...hopefully, it will still work out!

[Sassy]

Good plan. Not sure if Sass would be up for upper deck anyways.....

Not especially.

[broncocalijohn]

Hey, anyone interested in the Coyotes & Stars Saturday night?

Should be able to get walk up tickets on the cheap.......thoughts?

doesnt that get in the way of drinking? Yardhouse is next door to the arena. Still trying to make this. I think i got Chargers vs Broncos tickets for face value. Cards should be much cheaper.

[TailgateNut]

Where are you guys sitting (have to get tix for my wife and daughter), and has anyone heard from Miles and Trish.

[Sassy]

Where are you guys sitting (have to get tix for my wife and daughter), and has anyone heard from Miles and Trish.

Originally Posted by Hogan11
116, Sass & I are in Sec 125, row 20, seats 7-9

[Hogan11]

Not especially.

Might not have a choice if we're doing walk up.....which is the onyl way I can doing it since we don't know for sure who would be into it or who's even going to show up at this point.

[Hogan11]

doesnt that get in the way of drinking? Yardhouse is next door to the arena. Still trying to make this. I think i got Chargers vs Broncos tickets for face value. Cards should be much cheaper.

Nah, the Rox never really got in the way of it, so I fail to see why the Coyotes would.

[broncocalijohn]

Nah, the Rox never really got in the way of it, so I fail to see why the Coyotes would.

Yes, games end before 10pm anyways. BTW, sassy and u have seats 7-9; 3 seats , two people. Hogan, you know fat for two seat occupation?

[Hogan11]

Yes, games end before 10pm anyways. BTW, sassy and u have seats 7-9; 3 seats , two people. Hogan, you know fat for two seat occupation?

notsofast Cliff is sitting with us smart guy...here's hoping you make it, you have some beers to make up since you ducked OMW

[Sassy]

notsofast Cliff is sitting with us smart guy...here's hoping you make it, you have some beers to make up since you ducked OMW

John obviously didn't read the part about cliff! Ha!

[TailgateNut]

John obviously didn't read the part about cliff! Ha!

Where are you "guys" staying? Lisa is at the Biltmore during the week but wants to find something closer to the stadium for Saturday and Sunday night.

[Sassy]

LOL! TGN...we are at the Holiday Inn Express in Glendale...within walking distance of the stadium and it was actually one of the "cheaper" places. Cliff is staying there as well.

[TailgateNut]

LOL! TGN...we are at the Holiday Inn Express in Glendale...within walking distance of the stadium and it was actually one of the "cheaper" places. Cliff is staying there as well.

Why the "laugh" smilie?

[Sassy]

Laughing at the "guys" part....Sass is just one of the "guys".

[Sassy]

For those still around on Monday ?

http://www.buyphoenixtours.com/tours/phx_detours_phoenix_scottsdale.html

[Sassy]

Restaurants in Westgate City Center (By Stadium)



Jimmy Buffet's Margaritaville
Westgate, the fountains dance to the music of "It's 5 O'Clock Somewhere" at 5pm sharp. Margaritaville is an imposing two story bar and restaurant with all the Jimmy Buffet themed kitsch you would dream of! Margaritaville is open for lunch, dinner and late night entertainment. Margaritaville, Glendale is open 11am to 1am Sunday through Thursday and until 2am on Friday and Saturday nights. The Smuggler's Hold, a great little store for Margaritaville goodies, opens at 10am each day and closes at 1am. Margaritaville is suitable for families and is only restricted to the over 21 crowd 11pm and after



Saddle Ranch Chop House
The Saddle Ranch Chop House is the chain's fifth opening. There is also a restaurant in Scottsdale. Saddle Ranch is built like an upscale barn with barn wood, flat screen TVs and the ever-present and fun mechanical bulls. Look for bull-riding contests on Monday nights and karaoke night on Tuesdays. Enjoy music and dancing and save room for those mouth-watering steaks.

The Yard House
The Yard House, located in the heart of Westgate City Center, serves at least 100 different beers and ales from all across the U.S. and the world. Their food ranges from gourmet pub fare, to pizza, to sizzling steaks

Bar Louie
This casually cool neighborhood restaurant and bar specializes in oversized signature sandwiches and hand-crafted specialty cocktails in addition to an extensive selection of small and large plates

Be Sushi And MartiniLocated at 6922 N. 95th Ave. Suite 100 in Westgate City Center. Phone: (623) 877-7701

Fox Sports Grill
Soups, salads and grilled favorites will sustain you while you watch the game on the flat screen TV's. The grill has free Wi-Fi and special events. They even have a kid's menu!

Garduno's of Mexico

Check out the flowing giant Margarita on the roof! If you are hungry for Mexican food, you'll be in the mood for Guardino's.

Johnny Rockets
Part of the well-loved chain, Johnny Rockets dispenses great burgers and french fries in a vintage atmosphere.

[Los Broncos]

Were out for this one, we really wanted to see everyone again.

Mostly because I'm going to the SD game and money is a little tight, have fun people.

[Sassy]

awwww :(

[TailgateNut]

Just got off the phone with Miles. He didn't commit suicide after the London game:wiggle:and will be there.

Ryan, have you bought tix yet? We are looking into getting 6 together for Miles, Trish, My wife and daughter and you "guys" (sass gets a chuckle when I refer to the group as guys). Get in touch and let me know. I'll start looking and keep you updated.

[missingnumber7]

Just got off the phone with Miles. He didn't commit suicide after the London game:wiggle:and will be there.

Ryan, have you bought tix yet? We are looking into getting 6 together for Miles, Trish, My wife and daughter and you "guys" (sass gets a chuckle when I refer to the group as guys). Get in touch and let me know. I'll start looking and keep you updated.

Haven't bought tix yet. Still gotta get Sarah a plane ticket...We are gonna cut it close. I have seen that the ticket prices have dropped some from the last time I looked.

[BMF Bronco]

I am not going to be able to make this one guys, finances just wont allow it with the holidays coming up and all. However I have a few friends going and want to tailgate and party with you guys. Can I give them the info so we can have more Maners jump on board?

[missingnumber7]

I am not going to be able to make this one guys, finances just wont allow it with the holidays coming up and all. However I have a few friends going and want to tailgate and party with you guys. Can I give them the info so we can have more Maners jump on board?

Sucks that you can't make it man. Was looking forward to seeing you again. We are struggling to see how we can get Sarah down there right now and its going to be tough.

[Hogan11]

Sorry to hear you can't make it BMF...I'm sure your friends will be welcome to whatever gets set up tailgatewise, no worries!

[Hogan11]

Sucks that you can't make it man. Was looking forward to seeing you again. We are struggling to see how we can get Sarah down there right now and its going to be tough.

Hope she can make it. I know you have training in the area, does that mean you'll be onhand even if she can't make it or will both of you guys be out?

[Sassy]

I heard through the grapevine that Miles and Trish are in for a brazilian steak house saturday night ;D

[missingnumber7]

Hope she can make it. I know you have training in the area, does that mean you'll be onhand even if she can't make it or will both of you guys be out?

I may come by to tailgate, but right now I don't think its gonna happen, unless I find a bank to rob, win the lottery without buying a ticket, or have a random rich person leave me a load of money.

[Hogan11]

I heard through the grapevine that Miles and Trish are in for a brazilian steak house saturday night ;D

Not sure there is one...I've checked around and couldn't find a listing for one in the area.

[Hogan11]

I may come by to tailgate, but right now I don't think its gonna happen, unless I find a bank to rob, win the lottery without buying a ticket, or have a random rich person leave me a load of money.

Well, here's hoping for the best for you guys!

[missingnumber7]

Well, here's hoping for the best for you guys!

Well I think we have given up on Sarah flying down, and I can use per diem money for everything else, and was given the thumbs up for going to the game without her:(

[Hawaii_Guy]

I found two places to think about
1. http://www.brazilianbullsteakhouse.com/BrazilianBull/Home.html
2. The place is called Rio Sabor Brazilian Steakhouse.

Take a look of the places and let me know what you think.

After Monday night isn't everyone happy that The AZ game is the Orangemane weekend away game?

[Sassy]

I found two places to think about
1. http://www.brazilianbullsteakhouse.com/BrazilianBull/Home.html
2. The place is called Rio Sabor Brazilian Steakhouse.

Take a look of the places and let me know what you think.

After Monday night isn't everyone happy that The AZ game is the Orangemane weekend away game?

Yep! LOL!
For the few of us left that are going!
Happy Birthday Miles!

[Hogan11]

I found two places to think about
1. http://www.brazilianbullsteakhouse.com/BrazilianBull/Home.html
2. The place is called Rio Sabor Brazilian Steakhouse.

Take a look of the places and let me know what you think.

After Monday night isn't everyone happy that The AZ game is the Orangemane weekend away game?

Awesome....I was afraid we were going to be out of luck on that!

[missingnumber7]

I am in for all the fun, just gonna watch my spending while i'm there. Sarah won't be in but I've been given a thumbs up to go. I will have my military rental so if anyone needs rides I should be good, I'm staying close to the airport. Let me know.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Anyone know a good source for 2 tix to this game?

[TailgateNut]

Anyone know a good source for 2 tix to this game?

The internets!;D

[Smiling Assassin27]

The internets!;D


:hitself:

Silly me.

[TailgateNut]

:hitself:

Silly me.

I'm still looking to buy, or Miles will be buying for our group. Check Ticketexchange and stub hub.

[Hogan11]

Anyone know a good source for 2 tix to this game?

I think I went thru Seat Geek.

[missingnumber7]

I'm still looking to buy, or Miles will be buying for our group. Check Ticketexchange and stub hub.

I will be in Phoenix on Sunday night, I'm going to start looking then, or I will be a little more liquid by then anyway. There are still lots of tickets available for decent prices too.

[Dr. Thunder]

Have we discussed where we want to hold OM Weekend II?

[TailgateNut]

Arizona!

[missingnumber7]

Arizona!

I thought someone said north mexico?

[TailgateNut]

I thought someone said north mexico?

Same difference!

[Hogan11]

Same difference!

It's all desert to me

[BMF Bronco]

What lot are you guys going to be in?

[Sassy]

Are you going Jeff?
No idea...Meck was going to bring the bus.

[Hogan11]

Are you going Jeff?
No idea...Meck was going to bring the bus.

He did post here...then the post disappeared a couple of days later.

We hit town on the 10th, lake effect snow be damned!!

[Meck77]

Sorry folks but the bus isn't going to make this one. I thought I had everything dialed in but I had a couple of pipes that froze that need attention. Add in the state of the Broncos and our motivation Mine and (RaiderSuck) to drive 2,000 miles right now just isn't there.

[Sassy]

That sucks Meck. :(

[Hogan11]

Sorry to hear that Meck :(

Hey Calijohn, what's the status? You in, out or what?

[missingnumber7]

I'm here waiting for the fun, we don't have class on friday so if anyone needs picked up from the airport or anything let me know. I just want to be able to watch NDSU on sat and tailgate on sun and enjoy the game.

[Dr. Thunder]

Sorry folks but the bus isn't going to make this one. I thought I had everything dialed in but I had a couple of pipes that froze that need attention. Add in the state of the Broncos and our motivation Mine and (RaiderSuck) to drive 2,000 miles right now just isn't there.

Thanks for trying to take the bus down there! Will miss it!

[Boagirl]

I am going to the game in Phoenix this weekend. Did anyone get a group discount or find a good deal at a hotel near the stadium?

[missingnumber7]

We need to figure out some tailgating formalities then.

[Hogan11]

We need to figure out some tailgating formalities then.

I expect things to really take shape once everyone hits the ground. There's only a small group of us, so it shouldn't be all that difficult to come up with some type of plan. We have your number Missing, as well as C's and the Hawaii's....we'll be in touch :thumbs:

[crawdad]

Don't forget Lisa and Nicci are coming from Denver!

[broncocalijohn]

I am going to the game in Phoenix this weekend. Did anyone get a group discount or find a good deal at a hotel near the stadium?

Just do Priceline and name your price (after looking at going rates on PL). Glendale area is not as cheap because of the hockey and football game but Phoenix, as a whole, is not expensive at all.

Cant make it as my wife is up at the cabin with her friends and i am broke.

[Sassy]

Just do Priceline and name your price (after looking at going rates on PL). Glendale area is not as cheap because of the hockey and football game but Phoenix, as a whole, is not expensive at all.

Cant make it as my wife is up at the cabin with her friends and i am broke.

I sense a Scrap Party! Did she take a uhaul with her? :sunshine:

[TailgateNut]

Don't forget Lisa and Nicci are coming from Denver!


Lisa's already there and Nikki is flying out tomorrow afternoon.

Should I pack the RV in her carry-on?:clown:

[Sassy]

Lisa's already there and Nikki is flying out tomorrow afternoon.

Should I pack the RV in her carry-on?:clown:

That works! :yayaya:

[BMF Bronco]

Are you going Jeff?
No idea...Meck was going to bring the bus.

No, I will be in Salt Lake City watching Hannah's acting debut.

[Sassy]

What is she doing?

[Hawaii_Guy]

I just got my hotel off priceline and got the Four Points By Sheraton Barcelo Metro Center. Its at 10220 North Metro Parkway East. But lets do a head count. So far I can count, Ryan, Ray, Shelly, Cliff, Lisa, Nikki, Boagirl, Trisha, and myself. Am I missing anyone?

I am thinking it might be best to get a disposable grill, some burgers, chips and beer. just some ideas.

Also what steakhouse were we going to do? we should also set a time for that on Saturday as well.

[Hogan11]

I just got my hotel off priceline and got the Four Points By Sheraton Barcelo Metro Center. Its at 10220 North Metro Parkway East. But lets do a head count. So far I can count, Ryan, Ray, Shelly, Cliff, Lisa, Nikki, Boagirl, Trisha, and myself. Am I missing anyone?

I am thinking it might be best to get a disposable grill, some burgers, chips and beer. just some ideas.

Also what steakhouse were we going to do? we should also set a time for that on Saturday as well.

That all sounds good to me Miles. As far as the Steakhouse goes, the place you posted the link to looks damn good to me! :thumbs:

[missingnumber7]

Anyone wanna come to the NDSU watch party with me?

I do have to run to the commissary for some food for next week so I can look for a cheap disposable grill.

[Hawaii_Guy]

Ok, so I got off the phone with a couple people and the current plan is to meet at The Brazilian Bull on Saturday at 7pm. Its located at 4909 East Chandler Blvd, Phoenix, AZ 85048 Located on the corner of 48th and Chandler Blvd. Exit 160 off I-10. I put a reservation in for 12 people and we can see who all makes it. I texted this info to Lisa and to a couple other people!

[crawdad]

I hope you guys have a great time! Sorry I couldn't come. I really wanted to be there in the sun and root the Broncos on with all of you! Have fun! Go Broncos!

[Sassy]

UGH winter weather advisory...and SNOW!
Hope I get out of here!

[crawdad]

UGH winter weather advisory...and SNOW!
Hope I get out of here!

Be positive, lady! It will happen!

[missingnumber7]

UGH winter weather advisory...and SNOW!
Hope I get out of here!

And leave the cold weather there. Beautiful day here in Phoenix already above 60 headed to upper 70s, and should be in the 80's this weekend:D

[Dr. Thunder]

And leave the cold weather there. Beautiful day here in Phoenix already above 60 headed to upper 70s, and should be in the 80's this weekend:D

Nice! Plus, we got an indoor stadium too! :sunshine:

[crawdad]

Have a good time BF116, sorry I couldn't make it!

[missingnumber7]

Nice! Plus, we got an indoor stadium too! :sunshine:

Drove by the stadium on my way out to the commissary to pick up groceries for next week. Much cooler looking in person.

[crawdad]

Drove by the stadium on my way out to the commissary to pick up groceries for next week. Much cooler looking in person.

Have a good time buddy! Tip a few and root for the Broncos to win!

[missingnumber7]

I've also scoped out the Mills Ave scene for anyone that is interested in going down there either tomorrow night or after the game.

[Boagirl]

We have an orange lot parking pass and are tailgating on the Great Lawn....apparently that's the equivalent of our C Lot. Bob and I might be in for Sat....we are planning on going out in the City Center area by the stadium (we are @ Staybridge Suites)....not sure if thats near the Brazillian Bull, but would love to meet up at some point.
Pam

[missingnumber7]

Miles has a blue lot pass. I don't have one yet, but am not sure if i need one or i can pay driving up.

[✡✡ JOSHUA ✡✡]

It's not a real tailgate if you don't have these!!!

http://www.jewishsource.com/Prod_images/P0009026b.jpg

[Broncos4Life]

Didnt plan a tailgate but I'll be at the game. Sec 126/row 25/seats 1,2. A buddie of mine was supposed to come out with me but is having serious back problems, so I invited my sister who isn't a Broncos fan. She said she would wear a Broncos shirt and root for them so I'm not gonna complain. Considering she is a fan of a team I need not mention its pretty impressive. I didn't even ask her to wear any orange and blue, she asked me if she could!

[missingnumber7]

It's not a real tailgate if you don't have these!!!

http://www.jewishsource.com/Prod_images/P0009026b.jpg

Sorry but hot dogs are soooo 10 years ago...its all about Brats now.

[Hawaii_Guy]

Well as the 8 of us went and did a lot of the tailgate prep we are all ready now!! we have Blue parking passes and will get there at 10am. If anyone wants to join us send me a msg with your phone number and I'll drop you a call. if you are near the stadium we could also pick you up on our way in.

[broncocalijohn]

Anyone off the ****ter yet from going to the steakhouse? Enjoy the time. I will be at Hooters looking for you guys in the crowd.

[missingnumber7]

We are all in blue lot 95th street

[Dr. Thunder]

Just got home and wanted to thank Miles, Trish, Lisa, Nicki, Sassy, Hogan and Missingnumber7 for a great OM Weekend II. Too bad we and NDSU didn't get their wins but it was being with Maners and the jokes that made it fun!

BTW, who do I contact here to change my profile name?

[Blueflame]

Just got home and wanted to thank Miles, Trish, Lisa, Nicki, Sassy, Hogan and Missingnumber7 for a great OM Weekend II. Too bad we and NDSU didn't get their wins but it was being with Maners and the jokes that made it fun!

BTW, who do I contact here to change my profile name?

I can do a username change for you. :)

[Hawaii_Guy]

Dr. Thunder is now in the HOUSE!!

[Sassy]

LOL! It's sad when Wal-Mart was more entertaining than the game!

[Hogan11]

I wanna send out a thank you to all who helped make the AZ tailgate much better than the actual game was. Always great to see you guys, here's hoping there's a next season so we can do it all again :thumbs:

[Hogan11]

Dr. Thunder is now in the HOUSE!!

DOCTORRRRRR THUNNNNDDDEEEERRRRR!!!!! Hilarious!

[Sassy]

I wanna send out a thank you to all who helped make the AZ tailgate much better than the actual game was. Always great to see you guys, here's hoping there's a next season so we can do it all again :thumbs:

"Ditto"!!!

[crawdad]

"Ditto"!!!

:worthless

[Sassy]

I am working on them! LOL!

[Dr. Thunder]

DOCTORRRRRR THUNNNNDDDEEEERRRRR!!!!! Hilarious!

Hahaha, what about Circle K premium coffee! Hilarious!

[Dr. Thunder]

:worthless

What happens in Phoenix, stays in Phoenix...

[Hogan11]

Hahaha, what about Circle K premium coffee! Hilarious!

35 cent cup of Max House my Man....Black, give it to me black, the entire pot!