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Dagmar
10-07-2010, 02:50 PM
Josina tweet from his agent.

Champ Bailey's agent: "Apparently there won't be any further discussions about Champ's contract until at least after the season. This is not our choice. This is a choice by the #Broncos (http://twitter.com/#search/%23Broncos). We'll respect that and move on if we have to." --Jack Reale, Champ Bailey's agent


Then Josina adds her opinion.
RT @Justin_Letto (http://twitter.com/Justin_Letto): @JosinaAnderson (http://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson) should bronco fans be concerned?
Yes. Tension is there, it could go away. We'll see.

Shut up Josina.

Bronco Rob
10-07-2010, 02:51 PM
zowie!

jhns
10-07-2010, 02:54 PM
Well this should make it much easier for McDaniels to fill his quota of pro bowlers that have to leave the team each season.

Rabb
10-07-2010, 02:54 PM
there is probably no tension, it's just hyperbole from the moron again

it'll get done

misturanderson
10-07-2010, 02:55 PM
then josina adds her opinion.


Shut up josina.

qft

Dr. Broncenstein
10-07-2010, 03:08 PM
My shirts need ironing, and that pie isn't going to bake itself. Not that it has anything to do with this thread. Just sayin.

BMarsh615
10-07-2010, 03:11 PM
If Champ doesn't get resigned I will probably just give up on following the Broncos until McDaniels gets fired.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-07-2010, 03:12 PM
If Champ doesn't get resigned I will probably just give up on following the Broncos until McDaniels gets fired.

I'm surprised you haven't already, given your handle.

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 03:13 PM
If Champ doesn't get resigned I will probably just give up on following the Broncos until McDaniels gets fired.

You'll be missed.

http://blog.swell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/wayne-garth-waynes-world-15834539.jpg

snowspot66
10-07-2010, 03:13 PM
In other news. Manning still doesn't have a new contract.

Tension is there. It could go away. We'll see.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 03:16 PM
Curious. Has anyone else reported this, or is it just Josina?

Rabb
10-07-2010, 03:16 PM
If Champ doesn't get resigned I will probably just give up on following the Broncos until McDaniels gets fired.

yep because as we all know, he is the final and only authority on player contracts

save yourself the time and go ahead and leave now, kthx

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 03:17 PM
Curious. Has anyone else reported this, or is it just Josina?

Just Josina. She did quote his agent directly. Before adding her vapid opinion.

Rabb
10-07-2010, 03:18 PM
let's take it easy on the use of "reported"

it's amazing that she can keep that job

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 03:20 PM
Twatted then... ;)

Ray Finkle
10-07-2010, 03:22 PM
If Champ doesn't get resigned I will probably just give up on following the Broncos until McDaniels gets fired.

yeah because Doom and Kupe all walked when they didn't get resigned last season either.....

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

houghtam
10-07-2010, 03:24 PM
yeah because Doom and Kupe all walked when they didn't get resigned last season either.....

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Three words. Collective. Bargaining. Agreement. I'm surprised all 32 teams aren't saying the same thing about every player.

Hogan11
10-07-2010, 03:25 PM
If Champ doesn't get resigned I will probably just give up on following the Broncos until McDaniels gets fired.

Weak sauce...punisher/atlas style

Ray Finkle
10-07-2010, 03:27 PM
Weak sauce...punisher/atlas style

Simple Hogan,
save these pages and watch people backpeddle when things turn around with McDaniels....

Rabb
10-07-2010, 03:28 PM
Simple Hogan,
save these pages and watch people backpeddle when things turn around with McDaniels....

:thanku:

bronco militia
10-07-2010, 03:38 PM
Broncos break off contract talks with Champ Bailey until offseason
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 7, 2010 5:19 PM ET
A report surfaced in the Denver Post this week that the Broncos and cornerback Champ Bailey had renewed talks on a long-term contract.

According to Bailey's agent Jack Reale, those talks didn't last long.

Josina Anderson of FOX 31 in Denver reports the Broncos broke off talks until the season is over.

"Apparently there won't be any further discussions about Champ's contract until at least after the season. This is not our choice. This is a choice by the Broncos. We'll respect that and move on if we have to," Real said.

Because of his age -- 32 -- Bailey's next contract will be tricky. He's earning $9.5 million this year and then will become a free agent. The Broncos, like the Patriots, probably aren't big fans of agents negotiating through the media.

"I am disappointed because I want to be here,'' Bailey told Mike Klis of the Denver Post. "We know that, they know that. What's the issue here, really?''

Rabb
10-07-2010, 03:38 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_16279530

Broncos pull out of contract negotiations with Champ Bailey
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Posted: 10/07/2010 03:06:25 PM MDT
Updated: 10/07/2010 03:32:32 PM MDT

Champ Bailey. (Andy Cross, The Denver Post)

Just as a contract extension with star cornerback Champ Bailey was drawing near, the Broncos decided to pull out of negotiations.

The move increases the possibility that Bailey is playing in his final season with the Broncos.

"I am disappointed because I want to be here," Bailey said. "We know that, they know that. What's the issue here, really?"

In the final season of a seven-year contract, Bailey, 32, can become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season.

The Broncos and Bailey's agent, Jack Reale, were close to hashing out a four-year contract extension that would have kept the 9-time Pro Bowler under the team's control through 2014.

Bailey said he wasn't crazy about the deal but was willing to take it because he wanted to stay in Denver.

But after submitting an offer to Bailey late last week, the Broncos said Tuesday they were postponing talks.

"We were scheduled for a discussion on the contract offer they had recently e-mailed me," Reale said. "Before we had a chance for discussion, I received a call saying they wanted to put it off and wait until the end of the season. That is certainly their option and while not pleased, since no player likes playing in the last year of his contract, we respect their right to pursue that approach.

"Champ will do what he always does. Play hard, give 100 percent, keep quiet and lead this team."

It's possible the Broncos could retain Bailey with the franchise tag next year but that salary figures to be in excess of $10 million.

The move is especially surprising because the Broncos signed restricted free agents Elvis Dumervil, Chris Kuper and Kyle Orton to contract extensions.

Broncos coach Josh McDaniels talked to Bailey personally this week and said he still hopes a deal can be worked out later.

"My mindset is I want to win," Bailey said. "That's my approach every year. I'm a competitive person and this is no different. I owe it to the guys in the locker room."

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 03:49 PM
Broncos break off contract talks with Champ Bailey until offseason
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 7, 2010 5:19 PM ET
A report surfaced in the Denver Post this week that the Broncos and cornerback Champ Bailey had renewed talks on a long-term contract.

According to Bailey's agent Jack Reale, those talks didn't last long.

Josina Anderson of FOX 31 in Denver reports the Broncos broke off talks until the season is over.

"Apparently there won't be any further discussions about Champ's contract until at least after the season. This is not our choice. This is a choice by the Broncos. We'll respect that and move on if we have to," Real said.

Because of his age -- 32 -- Bailey's next contract will be tricky. He's earning $9.5 million this year and then will become a free agent. The Broncos, like the Patriots, probably aren't big fans of agents negotiating through the media.

"I am disappointed because I want to be here,'' Bailey told Mike Klis of the Denver Post. "We know that, they know that. What's the issue here, really?''

McDaniels is tearing teh teamz apart!!1!

Los Broncos
10-07-2010, 03:54 PM
If Champ doesn't get resigned I will probably just give up on following the Broncos until McDaniels gets fired.

He'll get resigned, relax.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 03:56 PM
Um...

"Bailey said he wasn't crazy about the deal but was willing to take it because he wanted to stay in Denver."

He was willing to take it, but he didn't take it.

Wha?

Rabb
10-07-2010, 03:57 PM
No, he was willing to take it, Denver backed out

OBF1
10-07-2010, 04:18 PM
Josina tweet from his agent.
Champ Bailey's agent:
Then Josina adds her opinion.
Shut up Josina.


2 things here....

1) What kind of freeking loser, low life, cork soaker subscribes to whoresina tweets???

2) What kind of freekin loser, low life, cork soaker would post a whoresina tweet on the Orangemane. :thumbs:

The level of poster has gone into the toilet this season. How about posting some useless poll

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 04:23 PM
No, he was willing to take it, Denver backed out

I get that. I just have a hard time believing he called the Broncos, said "Okay, we're going to take your offer," and they said, "Actually, no. We're going in a different direction." Just doesn't make any sense to me.

Further, if he was going to take it, shouldn't he have just taken it?

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 04:28 PM
2 things here....

1) What kind of freeking loser, low life, cork soaker subscribes to whoresina tweets???

2) What kind of freekin loser, low life, cork soaker would post a whoresina tweet on the Orangemane. :thumbs:

The level of poster has gone into the toilet this season. How about posting some useless poll

From what I can tell from your reps and responses you've made me your target this month.

Useless poll? What are you on about?

And as far as I can tell, people are interested in Champ Bailey and since this had a direct quote from his agent I posted it.

Not sure what the problem is, is it because after your many attacks on here and rep I told you to stick your rep in your ass?

Do any other posters have a problem that I posted this story or should I have started a 6th Hillis thread?

Br0nc0Buster
10-07-2010, 04:30 PM
they have signed the guys they like and who fit the team mode

Champ fits that, I am not too worried right now

Chris
10-07-2010, 04:31 PM
jhnsina anderson sucks.

UberBroncoMan
10-07-2010, 04:36 PM
Really wish we had just locked him up for 4 more. Very annoying to hear. This guy WANTS to play to 36+.

WolfpackGuy
10-07-2010, 04:38 PM
What were the financials?

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 04:44 PM
Post legitimate Champ Bailey news and you do this?

http://i52.tinypic.com/9bki7o.png

Los Broncos
10-07-2010, 04:48 PM
Someone doesn't like Dagmar.

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 04:49 PM
someone doesn't like dagmar.

;d

SonOfLe-loLang
10-07-2010, 04:54 PM
If Champ doesn't get resigned I will probably just give up on following the Broncos until McDaniels gets fired.

i assume people like you gripe about McD trading Cutler and BMarsh when our passing game is ****ING FANTASTIC!

BMarsh615
10-07-2010, 05:10 PM
yeah because Doom and Kupe all walked when they didn't get resigned last season either.....

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Champ is my favorite Bronco from the past 10 years. He can still play and there is no reason not to resign him.

BMarsh615
10-07-2010, 05:12 PM
i assume people like you gripe about McD trading Cutler and BMarsh when our passing game is ****ING FANTASTIC!

No I have no problems with that and am not a McD basher at all. My post was just my instant reaction when reading that tweet.

BMarsh615
10-07-2010, 05:15 PM
FYI Champ is going to be on 87.7 The Ticket in about 15 minutes to do his weekly show.

Link to the internet stream.

http://player.streamtheworld.com/liveplayer.php?callsign=KXDPFM

TheReverend
10-07-2010, 05:22 PM
Post legitimate Champ Bailey news and you do this?

http://i52.tinypic.com/9bki7o.png

That is one busy and angry 7 minutes...

24champ
10-07-2010, 05:49 PM
Same ol' song and dance for 3 years.

Broncos and Champ in negotiations, and everyone gets excited and nothing happens. I can't say I am shocked the Broncos/Xanders pulled their offer when Champ accepted the deal that he wasn't 100 percent happy with.

I don't know if Champ Bailey is in the Broncos long term plans, however the Broncos do have the option to franchise Champ Bailey if a deal isn't worked out in the off season. It's possible that Champ Bailey could be traded for draft picks before the next draft if he does well for the rest of the season/playoffs, since it could drive his value up. A risky move by the Broncos/Xanders.

Personally, I think he'll end up being tagged and negotiations continue for another year...

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 05:55 PM
Some more things for CBF1 to neg rep.

http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/505041022/twitterProfilePhoto_normal.jpg
MileHighReport (http://twitter.com/#%21/MileHighReport) MileHighReport



Just heard Bailey on @877theticket (http://twitter.com/877theticket) - "I (won't) ask for a trade or anything. I love it here. I wouldn't do that." #Broncos (http://twitter.com/#search/%23Broncos)


7 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/MileHighReport/status/26696822315) Favorite (http://twitter.com/#) Retweet (http://twitter.com/#) Reply (http://twitter.com/#)


http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/394603933/GaryMiller_normal.jpg
thegarymiller (http://twitter.com/#%21/thegarymiller) gary miller by VicLombardi



Bronco sources say they want to keep Champ. Negotiations ongoing.

http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/394603933/GaryMiller_normal.jpg
thegarymiller (http://twitter.com/#%21/thegarymiller) gary miller by VicLombardi



Also best player in NFL doesn't have a deal yet for next year and no one thinks he's leaving Indy.

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/368455516/viclombardi_normal.jpg
VicLombardi (http://twitter.com/#%21/VicLombardi) Vic Lombardi



This Champ thing is out of control. Just because talks have been tabled doesn't mean he's going to have a hissy fit about it. He's fine.

tsiguy96
10-07-2010, 05:56 PM
curious why they stopped. champ bailey made the media circuit today to say how much he loves it here and why hes not sure they stopped negotiations.

Dudeskey
10-07-2010, 06:00 PM
http://i.ebayimg.com/10/%21BnBcd8wCGk%7E$%28KGrHqUH-DsEttBCbFj%29BLhyKkb-tQ%7E%7E_3.JPG

steeledude
10-07-2010, 06:04 PM
You'll be missed.

http://blog.swell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/wayne-garth-waynes-world-15834539.jpg

Man if only people like you and your MCD lovers would leave. But I guess it makes complete sense why you're here and refusing to leave, the most hardcore fans who "bleed blue and orange" (retarded) are mentally unbalanced.

If you're a fan who loves this team, like me, you get urged to leave because you don't blindly follow McD off the edge of a cliff. But for every Custer who charges blindly into overwhelming odds there will always be 250 followers who are too blind to look beyond the "leader's" decisions.

This year: McD's last stand. He will break himself against the far superior and better managed teams in this NFL. People will realize that a QB throwing for yardage and no points is actually garbage.

Hopefully the Broncos can recover from this severe hamstringing being done to the team.

See ya Champ! We don't want you around anymore! Your attitude is good, and you still play better than any CB that we have, but for some reason you're not a fit.

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 06:24 PM
Man if only people like you and your MCD lovers would leave. But I guess it makes complete sense why you're here and refusing to leave, the most hardcore fans who "bleed blue and orange" (retarded) are mentally unbalanced.

If you're a fan who loves this team, like me, you get urged to leave because you don't blindly follow McD off the edge of a cliff. But for every Custer who charges blindly into overwhelming odds there will always be 250 followers who are too blind to look beyond the "leader's" decisions.

This year: McD's last stand. He will break himself against the far superior and better managed teams in this NFL. People will realize that a QB throwing for yardage and no points is actually garbage.

Hopefully the Broncos can recover from this severe hamstringing being done to the team.

See ya Champ! We don't want you around anymore! Your attitude is good, and you still play better than any CB that we have, but for some reason you're not a fit.

I do like McDaniels, but your entire point makes no sense. Myself and the rest of the folks who responded (but you didn't quote) will follow the Broncos no matter who is coach/qb/back up fullback. And won't bail.

:thumbs:

spdirty
10-07-2010, 06:35 PM
Post legitimate Champ Bailey news and you do this?

http://i52.tinypic.com/9bki7o.png
He did this **** to me too. He's an another internet tough guy.

Steve Prefontaine
10-07-2010, 06:38 PM
McDaniels is tearing teh teamz apart!!1!
can we get some new fking material please? jc

UberBroncoMan
10-07-2010, 06:42 PM
Some more things for CBF1 to neg rep.

http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/505041022/twitterProfilePhoto_normal.jpg
MileHighReport (http://twitter.com/#%21/MileHighReport) MileHighReport



Just heard Bailey on @877theticket (http://twitter.com/877theticket) - "I (won't) ask for a trade or anything. I love it here. I wouldn't do that." #Broncos (http://twitter.com/#search/%23Broncos)


7 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/MileHighReport/status/26696822315) Favorite (http://twitter.com/#) Retweet (http://twitter.com/#) Reply (http://twitter.com/#)


http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/394603933/GaryMiller_normal.jpg
thegarymiller (http://twitter.com/#%21/thegarymiller) gary miller by VicLombardi



Bronco sources say they want to keep Champ. Negotiations ongoing.

http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/394603933/GaryMiller_normal.jpg
thegarymiller (http://twitter.com/#%21/thegarymiller) gary miller by VicLombardi



Also best player in NFL doesn't have a deal yet for next year and no one thinks he's leaving Indy.

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/368455516/viclombardi_normal.jpg
VicLombardi (http://twitter.com/#%21/VicLombardi) Vic Lombardi



This Champ thing is out of control. Just because talks have been tabled doesn't mean he's going to have a hissy fit about it. He's fine.

Hence why almost all of us hate Josina.

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 06:50 PM
Ive been on board with most of the signings here and letting go's of players.

Im not sure what the ****ing deal is though. Champ is STILL a Hall of Fame caliber player wtf? He even said he wasnt pleased with the contract but wanted to stay so would have taken it, again WTF.

Champ better retire a Bronco, it will be a travesty if he doesnt.

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 06:59 PM
Man if only people like you and your MCD lovers would leave. But I guess it makes complete sense why you're here and refusing to leave, the most hardcore fans who "bleed blue and orange" (retarded) are mentally unbalanced.

If you're a fan who loves this team, like me, you get urged to leave because you don't blindly follow McD off the edge of a cliff. But for every Custer who charges blindly into overwhelming odds there will always be 250 followers who are too blind to look beyond the "leader's" decisions.

This year: McD's last stand. He will break himself against the far superior and better managed teams in this NFL. People will realize that a QB throwing for yardage and no points is actually garbage.

Hopefully the Broncos can recover from this severe hamstringing being done to the team.

See ya Champ! We don't want you around anymore! Your attitude is good, and you still play better than any CB that we have, but for some reason you're not a fit.

THis post is so full of fail I cant even begin to start on how.

But I'll give it a go.

McDaniels got a team and had the fortune to start with a whopping 21 players. 32 of which that were previously here are not in football anymore because they sucked that bad.

So you want to fire him after two offseasons which is hardly enough time to fix ALL the wrongs on this team that Shanahan left us.

Let's examine what McDaniels has done:
1) Got rid of a garbage Diabetic whiny pouty QB that didn't want to be here, and parlayed that into Orton, Ayers (minimum, there is more which is detailed elsewhere).
2) Snagged one fantastic year out of a problem child of a WR that is too busy ****ing his own life up to worry about the TEAM goals, and then shipped him off for...you guessed it, Demaryious Thomas.
3) Brought in Brian Dawkins, Andre Goodman, Renaldo Hill, Mario Haggan, Jamal Williams, Justin Bannan, and has FINALLY got production out of former bust Marcus Thomas.
4) After CLEANING HOUSE from a defunct going-no-where program from Shanahan's era, he STILL took the team to a .500 record last year and by all accounts has his offense completely installed.
5) Suffered from a season ending injury to our best pass rusher, has started 3 first year starters on the offensive line - 2 of which are rookies - who have gained valuable playing time experience and has an injury riddled backfield (hmm, seems to me Shanahan got a pass when his backfield went to the 7th running back but you guys want McD fired now).

You claim you bleed orange and blue, then shut the **** up and support the team. You dont have to like it, but you sure as **** are not going to sit there behind your keyboard and tell people with ****ing eyes in their heads that this team is not progressing and that McDaniels is a colossal failure because it is blatantly not true.

There is one poster that most respect more than any other on this board and his name is Mediator and he doesn't pull punches. He gives the good and bad and he is on board with us going in the right direction but you, a plebeian twerp with no actual basis in reality, hate what we are doing.

**** you.

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 07:01 PM
Oh and this isn't McDaniels last stand douche nozzle. I hope he is here for 10 ****ing years just so you can sit back and squirm you limey piece of ****.

Missouribronc
10-07-2010, 07:05 PM
Oh and this isn't McDaniels last stand douche nozzle. I hope he is here for 10 ****ing years just so you can sit back and squirm you limey piece of ****.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:EEzafhCNzPQXSM::blogs.westword.com/showandtell/2010/08/gratuitous_randomness_haters_g.php&t=1&usg=AFrqEzeOKMtMwSs6rcBDm_9zLt5NcG5htA

Dr. Broncenstein
10-07-2010, 07:09 PM
http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/1122/original/xzibit-happy.jpg?1258588091
Yo dawg...

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 07:10 PM
http://jamiedubs.com/****flickr/data/xzibit-yo-dawg/web/xzibit-happy.jpg

Yo dawg...

You're doing it wrong.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-07-2010, 07:12 PM
You're doing it wrong.

Didn't you forget to call me something?

~Crash~
10-07-2010, 07:13 PM
McDaniels is tearing teh teamz apart!!1!

dood just save that and paste that way you can get your post in for the day ... broken ****en record

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 07:15 PM
Didn't you forget to call me something?

No. Am I missing the joke?

Dr. Broncenstein
10-07-2010, 07:16 PM
No. Am I missing the joke?

Apparently.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 07:23 PM
dood just save that and paste that way you can get your post in for the day ... broken ****en record

Right back atcha, wise ass.

Weren't you going to bitch about something substantive? We're all waiting with baited breath for your next outstanding take on the subject.

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 07:27 PM
The usual angst around here. If nothing the McDaniels hire has created some really strong feelings on both sides of the arguement. And he has done nothing to calm the emotion, either way.

steeledude
10-07-2010, 07:34 PM
Oh and this isn't McDaniels last stand douche nozzle. I hope he is here for 10 ****ing years just so you can sit back and squirm you limey piece of ****.

Your posts were full of opinion and speculation. I am going off the fact that young pro bowlers are shipped out of town by McD. In addition highly talented players are shipped out and every week putting up big numbers wherever they go.

I don't bleed blue and orange. You do. That's what makes it retarded. Because you're so angry right now, which I find highly amusing. I love pissing people off, they have no control of their emotions--I guess it's a kind of bullying aspect to my personality that I manipulate those with a weak will. You must forgive me. Or not. Don't really care.

I'm glad you're the kind of fan who would want a bad coach for ten years! That makes total sense.

Hogan11
10-07-2010, 07:40 PM
I love pissing people off, they have no control of their emotions--I guess it's a kind of bullying aspect to my personality that I manipulate those with a weak will. You must forgive me. Or not. Don't really care.

Yikes! You have no clue who you're dealing with here, do you?

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 07:41 PM
I guess the five year plan has returned to the Broncos. It must be nice to have that kind of room to screw up for the first few years and keep your job.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-07-2010, 07:45 PM
http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/album19/i_like_where_this_thread_is_going_again.jpg

baja
10-07-2010, 07:46 PM
Post legitimate Champ Bailey news and you do this?

http://i52.tinypic.com/9bki7o.png

It seems his only claim to fame is his rep stick on a BB. Sad really.

Sassy
10-07-2010, 07:46 PM
Yikes! You have no clue who you're dealing with here, do you?

:thumbs::rofl:

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 07:48 PM
http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/album19/i_like_where_this_thread_is_going_again.jpg

Awsome! It's where every thread ends up. The kool-aid drinkers doing their best to shout down anyone that has so much as a question.

snowspot66
10-07-2010, 07:53 PM
Awsome! It's where every thread ends up. The kool-aid drinkers doing their best to shout down anyone that has so much as a question.

Just tired of bull**** like this. It's like what Gaffney would sound like if he ever posted about football.

broncosteven
10-07-2010, 07:55 PM
BTW when are we going to see Champ playing WR again?


LOL

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 08:02 PM
Just tired of bull**** like this. It's like what Gaffney would sound like if he ever posted about football.

I just feel that we hired a coach who's reach has exceeded his grasp. This is a proud franchise, and bringing in a coach for a few years of on the job training is not what some had in mind. Argue all you want but this is how it looks to me.

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 08:06 PM
Awsome! It's where every thread ends up. The kool-aid drinkers doing their best to shout down anyone that has so much as a question.

All 16 of you.

Yeah, the vast majority of the posters here are trying to shut you 16 morons up. That's what it is.

Or maybe the vast majority of us here are just tired of listening to you douche ****ing nozzles rehash the same tired arguments ad infinum and destroy every thread you post in with your negativity.

**** you too.

baja
10-07-2010, 08:07 PM
This is just a very clever ploy by Josh to get teams to think Champ has lost a step or two and therefore they will be inclined to throw at him but they are in for a surprise.

Josh McD = super master mind

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 08:08 PM
Your posts were full of opinion and speculation. I am going off the fact that young pro bowlers are shipped out of town by McD. In addition highly talented players are shipped out and every week putting up big numbers wherever they go.

Wanted out of town. Big ****ing difference asswipe.

I don't bleed blue and orange. You do. That's what makes it retarded. Because you're so angry right now, which I find highly amusing. I love pissing people off, they have no control of their emotions--I guess it's a kind of bullying aspect to my personality that I manipulate those with a weak will. You must forgive me. Or not. Don't really care.

Then why the **** are you on a Bronco message board? Oh Im not angry, I just dont like you.

I'm glad you're the kind of fan who would want a bad coach for ten years! That makes total sense.

Im the kind of fan that see's a coach with an extreme amount of football knowledge and a plan to FIX the ****ing disaster left to us from the previous coach.

Missouribronc
10-07-2010, 08:12 PM
All 16 of you.

Yeah, the vast majority of the posters here are trying to shut you 16 morons up. That's what it is.

Or maybe the vast majority of us here are just tired of listening to you douche ****ing nozzles rehash the same tired arguments ad infinum and destroy every thread you post in with your negativity.

**** you too.

This is the translation for this ****:

I luv Jay Cutler sooo much he da bomb diggity and McDoush traded my favoritist player evah!

snowspot66
10-07-2010, 08:14 PM
I just feel that we hired a coach who's reach has exceeded his grasp. This is a proud franchise, and bringing in a coach for a few years of on the job training is not what some had in mind. Argue all you want but this is how it looks to me.

Yes we have a proud franchise but we didn't get to hand a Super Bowl quality team off to Josh like the Colts and Steelers did so recently to their first time head coaches. Josh really was the best of the bunch at the time of his hiring and so far has had the best results. He's maintained our record and improved our talent level overall. Yeah he's learning a lot on the job. But I'm willing to wait it out. The guy is clearly an offensive and QB guru. Time will tell if he's a Norv Turner or a Mike Shanahan. No sense wanting him fired until we figure out which it is. It's not as if HoF coaches grow on trees.

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 08:16 PM
All 16 of you.

Yeah, the vast majority of the posters here are trying to shut you 16 morons up. That's what it is.

Or maybe the vast majority of us here are just tired of listening to you douche ****ing nozzles rehash the same tired arguments ad infinum and destroy every thread you post in with your negativity.

**** you too.

So don't come here and raise your blood pressure. If you can't handle your boy being questioned then stay off the internet. And hearing all the excuses for McDaniels gets just as old. So deal with it or shut up.

Missouribronc
10-07-2010, 08:21 PM
So don't come here and raise your blood pressure. If you can't handle your boy being questioned then stay off the internet. And hearing all the excuses for McDaniels gets just as old. So deal with it or shut up.

Some people like to take time in their evaluations instead of flying off the handle over every little move before it is prudent to evaluate the situation.

I know you aren't smart enough to figure that all out and all, but its the truth.

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 08:22 PM
So don't come here and raise your blood pressure. If you can't handle your boy being questioned then stay off the internet. And hearing all the excuses for McDaniels gets just as old. So deal with it or shut up.
Hahahaha.

My boy.

You are definitely a tosser.

Kaylore
10-07-2010, 08:25 PM
I think everyone that hates the coach so much should stop following the Broncos. If it gives them no joy then they absolutely should bandwagon another team. As for Champ, this could be because of the new CBA. Or maybe they would rather franchise him for one more year and see if he still has the goods before inking him to a long term deal. Who knows.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-07-2010, 08:26 PM
I think everyone that hates the coach so much should stop following the Broncos. If it gives them no joy then they absolutely should bandwagon another team. As for Champ, this could be because of the new CBA. Or maybe they would rather franchise him for one more year and see if he still has the goods before inking him to a long term deal. Who knows.

What was your opinion of Reeves back in the day? Especially around the time when we drafted Maddox?

Kaylore
10-07-2010, 08:27 PM
Careful with Steeldude, Alec. I apparently asked him to link a camp report he posted on Broncosforums and now he follows me around in every thread telling people I'm "a horrible person." I can only imagine what he'll do to you for calling him a name.

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 08:28 PM
Hahahaha.

My boy.

You are definitely a tosser.

You are a little man with an opinion. It's good you are only a internet tough guy and not out in the real world being questioned.

Lev Vyvanse
10-07-2010, 08:33 PM
Post legitimate Champ Bailey news and you do this?

http://i52.tinypic.com/9bki7o.png

Didn't he cry like a little girl about "The Evil Repper". If so it's funny as hell that he is doing to other people the exact same thing he bitched about.

Kaylore
10-07-2010, 08:33 PM
What was your opinion of Reeves back in the day? Especially around the time when we drafted Maddox?

Well I loved John Elway, but my understanding of the situation was pretty limited since I was 12 years old when he was fired. I remember thinking it was a bad pick because we had Elway. I didn't believe he was trying to trade Elway. When he was finally fired I understood why, but I don't think I had a perfect understanding of the ramifications on everyone with that pick, especially at the time.

As for Champ, they may still sign him. I'm just not sure what happened here with this. It's a lot of posturing from the agent and player to get some backlash to force a deal. I'm really not worried about this because McD wants him to stay and every player he's said that about is eventually paid an paid well for their skill level.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-07-2010, 08:38 PM
Bailey's getting old. A smart GM would dump him pretty soon.

SoCalBronco
10-07-2010, 08:39 PM
I don't necessarily disagree with this.

gyldenlove
10-07-2010, 08:51 PM
I think everyone that hates the coach so much should stop following the Broncos. If it gives them no joy then they absolutely should bandwagon another team. As for Champ, this could be because of the new CBA. Or maybe they would rather franchise him for one more year and see if he still has the goods before inking him to a long term deal. Who knows.

I don't think the CBA has much to do with it, we extended other players. Honestly, and I think it is a pretty decent business plan in most cases to do this, they are just putting that distraction aside for now, if they are in there talking about contracts, it could distract Champ, although I don't think it would. I think right now the whole organization is in season mode and they are focusing 100% on winning games and putting everyting else on the back burner.

Ken Holland of the Red Wings does the same thing, he closes all contract negotations a few weeks before the playoffs begin and does not speak to a player or agent until the Red Wings have played their last playoff game, he never changed that approach for any player, not Yzerman, not Lidstrom, not anyone and you can hardly argue with his results.

I would love to see Champ sign his last contract here and eventually go to Canton as a Bronco.

snowspot66
10-07-2010, 08:52 PM
Manning could play another 15 years as often as he gets hit and he still doesn't have a new contract. Dumerville and Kuper were the exception not the rule.

Of course they want a deal now. Champ gets a big fat chunk of change the minute he signs. In a physical sport like this you take the money as soon as you can get it. I have confidence it will get done eventually.

baja
10-07-2010, 09:03 PM
Hahahaha.

My boy.

You are definitely a tosser.

OK humor me, I'm old. What's a tosser? Is that in as tossing a salad for someone?

strafen
10-07-2010, 09:08 PM
OK humor me, I'm old. What's a tosser? Is that in as tossing a salad for someone?

I think that word was used on him sometime today, and now he's trying to use it on other people.
That's too funny! Ha!

Missouribronc
10-07-2010, 09:09 PM
I think that word was used on him sometime today, and now he's trying to use it on other people.
That's too funny! Ha!

I'm pretty sure you're a tosser.

baja
10-07-2010, 09:15 PM
Well I loved John Elway, but my understanding of the situation was pretty limited since I was 12 years old when he was fired. I remember thinking it was a bad pick because we had Elway. I didn't believe he was trying to trade Elway. When he was finally fired I understood why, but I don't think I had a perfect understanding of the ramifications on everyone with that pick, especially at the time.

As for Champ, they may still sign him. I'm just not sure what happened here with this. It's a lot of posturing from the agent and player to get some backlash to force a deal. I'm really not worried about this because McD wants him to stay and every player he's said that about is eventually paid an paid well for their skill level.

I think this is quite self evident. There want to see how the 32 year old player holds up for the season before they give him a big contract. It sucks of Champ but it's just good business. There's also the matter that they have already given out three big contracts in an unsettled atmosphere that many other teams have taken a wait & see attitude attitude about this no contract issue.

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 09:18 PM
I'm pretty sure you're a tosser.


You too may be a tosser, it's ok. I'm sure there is help for you.

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 09:28 PM
OK humor me, I'm old. What's a tosser? Is that in as tossing a salad for someone?

British slang bro.

Masturbate = wank = toss off = tosser.

Natedogg
10-07-2010, 09:32 PM
Well I loved John Elway, but my understanding of the situation was pretty limited since I was 12 years old when he was fired. I remember thinking it was a bad pick because we had Elway. I didn't believe he was trying to trade Elway. When he was finally fired I understood why, but I don't think I had a perfect understanding of the ramifications on everyone with that pick, especially at the time.

As for Champ, they may still sign him. I'm just not sure what happened here with this. It's a lot of posturing from the agent and player to get some backlash to force a deal. I'm really not worried about this because McD wants him to stay and every player he's said that about is eventually paid an paid well for their skill level.

Doesn't stop the Orange Mane Morons for crapping up the board. (You know who I'm talking about.)

Goobzilla
10-07-2010, 09:33 PM
I'm just confused why the team would pull an offer off the table and shelve further negotiations. Sounds like the deal was done but the Broncos had a last minute change of heart. It's an interesting development to say the least.

baja
10-07-2010, 09:39 PM
British slang bro.

Masturbate = wank = toss off = tosser.

Oh I see well except for Buff he got it right. ;D

scorpio
10-07-2010, 09:39 PM
ITT: A bunch of old broke-d!cks who are still pining for Shanny and won't let anyone forget it.




.

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 09:40 PM
I'm just confused why the team would pull an offer off the table and shelve further negotiations. Sounds like the deal was done but the Broncos had a last minute change of heart. It's an interesting development to say the least.

I agree it is curious, I hope this isn't the buisness as usual kind of Broncos handling. If so Champ is gone. A bad play by the organization at best.

strafen
10-07-2010, 09:42 PM
I'm just confused why the team would pull an offer off the table and shelve further negotiations. Sounds like the deal was done but the Broncos had a last minute change of heart. It's an interesting development to say the least.

That's not how you treat a player of the status of Champ.

24champ
10-07-2010, 09:48 PM
Bailey's getting old. A smart GM would dump him pretty soon.

Like you know what a smart GM is after years of defending Carl Peterson. :rofl:

baja
10-07-2010, 09:59 PM
That's not how you treat a player of the status of Champ.

Payton Manning is in the last year of his contract and has no new deal.

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 10:08 PM
Payton Manning is in the last year of his contract and has no new deal.

And Indy has no history of shipping out players of that caliber. I have a hard time believing Manning is going anywhere, but Champ? Can you say for sure he would be back no matter what?

strafen
10-07-2010, 10:14 PM
Payton Manning is in the last year of his contract and has no new deal.


PEyton will retire a Colt...

baja
10-07-2010, 10:15 PM
And Indy has no history of shipping out players of that caliber. I have a hard time believing Manning is going anywhere, but Champ? Can you say for sure he would be back no matter what?

No and neither can you so relax.

About 90% of the stuff that people around here freak out about never comes to pass.

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 10:21 PM
No and neither can you so relax.

About 90% of the stuff that people around here freak out about never comes to pass.

Are you serious? I guess no players have been shipped out that were better than the replacements? Man I need what you are taking, life must be strange in your twisted world.

Popps
10-07-2010, 10:22 PM
Josina, huh.....? Never mind.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 10:41 PM
Are you serious? I guess no players have been shipped out that were better than the replacements? Man I need what you are taking, life must be strange in your twisted world.

You should cry about it. Should make things better for you.

The MVPlaya
10-07-2010, 10:48 PM
I agree it is curious, I hope this isn't the buisness as usual kind of Broncos handling. If so Champ is gone. A bad play by the organization at best.

http://thegifblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/jesus-agrees.gif

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 10:55 PM
You should cry about it. Should make things better for you.

Oh look here, the resident slobbering fool. Never has anything to say, but boy can he toss an insult. You must be proud of your place in life. At least you are consistent, we always know what to expect from you. As lame as you are we can count on you.:thumbs:

Archer81
10-07-2010, 10:56 PM
Oh look here, the resident slobbering fool. Never has anything to say, but boy can he toss an insult. You must be proud of your place in life. At least you are consistent, we always know what to expect from you. As lame as you are we can count on you.:thumbs:


Who is we?

You have a mouse in your pocket?


:Broncos:

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 11:06 PM
Who is we?

You have a mouse in your pocket?


:Broncos:

You and I both know there are more than a few who disagree with the direction of this team and the management. Some just tire of the fight. In have no problem mixing it up with those who can't see an alternative. I can admit I might be wrong, can the rest of you? Or are you so invested in McDaniels that you can't entertain the idea?

Archer81
10-07-2010, 11:23 PM
I can admit I am wrong


First step is to admit you have a problem. I commend you, sir.



:Broncos:

Taco John
10-07-2010, 11:29 PM
This is one of the parts of the modern NFL that really bugs me, but as a fan I'm willing to give the organization freedom to operate within the system. Champ Bailey is truly one of my favorite Broncos of all time, and I'd love to see him retire a Bronco. But Steve Atwater was even more near and dear to my heart, and I was able (barely) to stomach seeing him leave for another team to collect a paycheck on his way out the door.

"I'll just put 'em right back with the rest... That's the way it goes... I guess..."

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Here's hoping he retires a Bronco, but if worse comes to worse, we'll always have New England.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 11:36 PM
Oh look here, the resident slobbering fool. Never has anything to say, but boy can he toss an insult. You must be proud of your place in life. At least you are consistent, we always know what to expect from you. As lame as you are we can count on you.:thumbs:

You're right. Strong take there. I'm an insulter, but you're insulting my place in life.

Irony?

Durrrrrrrrrrr.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-07-2010, 11:38 PM
Here's hoping he retires a Bronco, but if worse comes to worse, we'll always have New England.

boy, taco, you're starting to sound like a Chiefs fan...

"We'll always have that meaningless playoff win...and no one can take it away...ever!"

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 11:38 PM
You and I both know there are more than a few who disagree with the direction of this team and the management. Some just tire of the fight. In have no problem mixing it up with those who can't see an alternative. I can admit I might be wrong, can the rest of you? Or are you so invested in McDaniels that you can't entertain the idea?

Did you ever consider, even for a moment, that people might see the world differently than you?

That maybe it's not being "invested in McDaniels," but rather people who are seeing the improvement, the idea, the point of what's been done to move to the future, that they like what they see?

Did you ever consider that?

Or are you too busy licking your own balls to take a moment and think for yourself?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 11:40 PM
That's not how you treat a player of the status of Champ.

Can we wait to hear the org's side of this before we condemn them?

Oh wait. I'm on the Mane. I forgot. Waiting for actual facts from both sides isn't permitted here. Carry on.

WE KNOW THE WHOLE STORY RIGHT NOW!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 11:41 PM
boy, taco, you're starting to sound like a Chiefs fan...

"We'll always have that meaningless playoff win...and no one can take it away...ever!"

Go make us a sandwich, tubby.

bpc
10-07-2010, 11:57 PM
Bye Champ, thanks for the amazing run, including the 2006 season where we were O' so close to winning it all. You should have won defensive player of the year.

The advance notice by the team will allow Popps/Baja to flip-flop in standard fashion on how best they want to frame their hatred of Champ after the fact. They'll also draw up plans to paint anybody who disagrees as a terrible fan being disloyal to the franchise for accepting all those years of "non-super bowl winning" football.

"Well, Champ was brought in here to assist in beating the Colts by Shanny and he failed miserably in all of his attempts. I think it's time to start calling Champ was he was... a bust."

baja
10-08-2010, 12:03 AM
Bye Champ, thanks for the amazing run, including the 2006 season where we were O' so close to winning it all. You should have won defensive player of the year.

The advance notice by the team will allow Popps/Baja to flip-flop in standard fashion on how best they want to frame their hatred of Champ after the fact. They'll also draw up plans to paint anybody who disagrees as a terrible fan being disloyal to the franchise for accepting all those years of "non-super bowl winning" football.

"Well, Champ was brought in here to assist in beating the Colts by Shanny and he failed miserably in all of his attempts. I think it's time to start calling Champ was he was... a bust."

Jesus dude do you live close to the tar pits? Get a respirator.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-08-2010, 12:07 AM
Bye Champ, thanks for the amazing run, including the 2006 season where we were O' so close to winning it all. You should have won defensive player of the year.

The advance notice by the team will allow Popps/Baja to flip-flop in standard fashion on how best they want to frame their hatred of Champ after the fact. They'll also draw up plans to paint anybody who disagrees as a terrible fan being disloyal to the franchise for accepting all those years of "non-super bowl winning" football.

"Well, Champ was brought in here to assist in beating the Colts by Shanny and he failed miserably in all of his attempts. I think it's time to start calling Champ was he was... a bust."

Here we go. King Strawman with yet another argument nobody made.

Be more shrill. Should be a challenge for you.

24champ
10-08-2010, 12:38 AM
http://threadbombing.com/data/media/3/1.gif

Fixed.

Taco John
10-08-2010, 12:44 AM
boy, taco, you're starting to sound like a Chiefs fan...

"We'll always have that meaningless playoff win...and no one can take it away...ever!"


Huh? To my knowledge, the Chiefs have only had one player in the last decade that moved on in free agency that was a franchise favorite worth keeping around.

zdoor
10-08-2010, 08:00 AM
From DPO "I am disappointed, because I want to be here," Bailey said. "We know that, they know that. What's the issue here, really?"

No matter how it's spun this is not the best way to handle this. We've made mistakes in player handling and this is not the best way to go with a guy that has always been a team guy. At least, talk it out and give him a reason before you shut it down, so this type of crap doesn't get out and further frustrate and divide fans and put more drama in the locker room. I've got no problem with waiting to extend Champ until the end of the season, although I definitely want him to stay a Bronco. But, give the guy the courtesy of an explanation. They should not have re-started talks if they were not going to follow through...

Pony Boy
10-08-2010, 08:33 AM
PEyton will retire a Colt...

Yes, he will retire a Colt and go right into the head coaching job at Indy and still beat the piss out of everyone for the next 50 years......

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-08-2010, 08:49 AM
From DPO "I am disappointed, because I want to be here," Bailey said. "We know that, they know that. What's the issue here, really?"

No matter how it's spun this is not the best way to handle this. We've made mistakes in player handling and this is not the best way to go with a guy that has always been a team guy. At least, talk it out and give him a reason before you shut it down, so this type of crap doesn't get out and further frustrate and divide fans and put more drama in the locker room. I've got no problem with waiting to extend Champ until the end of the season, although I definitely want him to stay a Bronco. But, give the guy the courtesy of an explanation. They should not have re-started talks if they were not going to follow through...

I agree with this completely. I'm still waiting to hear from the org as far as their side of the story, because it just seems so odd.

Rabb
10-08-2010, 09:11 AM
it could be also that there was an explanation between the parties and the relationship is fine

this reminds me of the Dumervil situation, I think we all made it out to be far worse than it really was

Beantown Bronco
10-08-2010, 09:26 AM
it could be also that there was an explanation between the parties and the relationship is fine

this reminds me of the Dumervil situation, I think we all made it out to be far worse than it really was

I'd tend to agree, but this quote seems to say the opposite.

"I am disappointed because I want to be here,'' Bailey told Mike Klis of the Denver Post. "We know that, they know that. What's the issue here, really?''

Rabb
10-08-2010, 09:29 AM
Yeah I agree Bean, I am just thinking that maybe something was taken out of context. Either that, or maybe they talked it over later and that was an early reaction.

I just refuse to buy that they almost had a deal even with Champ willing to accept something less, and the organization just pulling back with no sort of communication about why with the agent and Champ...you know?

Champ is a consummate pro and someone the Broncos should be proud to have as a person and a player and is wildly popular here. I would be outright stunned if they haven't at least partially smoothed it over since the quote.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-08-2010, 09:30 AM
I'd tend to agree, but this quote seems to say the opposite.

"I am disappointed because I want to be here,'' Bailey told Mike Klis of the Denver Post. "We know that, they know that. What's the issue here, really?''

Honestly, that sounds like a miscommunication. It's entirely possible that they'll pick up negotiations during the bye week.

We just don't know, you know?

And for the record, that sounds a lot like some of the quotes Dumervil had in the off season...

Rabb
10-08-2010, 09:30 AM
Honestly, that sounds like a miscommunication. It's entirely possible that they'll pick up negotiations during the bye week.

We just don't know, you know?

And for the record, that sounds a lot like some of the quotes Dumervil had in the off season...

exactly

:kiss:

Hercules Rockefeller
10-08-2010, 09:34 AM
I'm still waiting to hear from the org as far as their side of the story, because it just seems so odd.

What are they supposed to say? We want to see what happens with a new CBA first? We want to see how he finishes the season before we decide how much we want to pay him going forward?

They say anything that doesn't turn out to be true, and people on this board start screaming that McD and the organization lied to Champ, much like some still claim from the whole Cutler saga.

They don't have to say anything, and they shouldn't.

Rock Chalk
10-08-2010, 09:45 AM
What are they supposed to say? We want to see what happens with a new CBA first? We want to see how he finishes the season before we decide how much we want to pay him going forward?

They say anything that doesn't turn out to be true, and people on this board start screaming that McD and the organization lied to Champ, much like some still claim from the whole Cutler saga.

They don't have to say anything, and they shouldn't.

This is probably a by-product of the Cutler saga. Best not say anything in public at the moment.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-08-2010, 09:47 AM
What are they supposed to say? We want to see what happens with a new CBA first? We want to see how he finishes the season before we decide how much we want to pay him going forward?

They say anything that doesn't turn out to be true, and people on this board start screaming that McD and the organization lied to Champ, much like some still claim from the whole Cutler saga.

They don't have to say anything, and they shouldn't.

Anything, honestly. A reason for cutting off the negotiation. Anything that would shed more light on the situation is what I'd like.

Seems like it would be in their best interests to do that, what with a lot of folks being anti-McDaniels and anti-FO. /shrug

Rabb
10-08-2010, 09:52 AM
to be honest Moose, I doubt anyone cares what we think about the situation as fans, they will make sure Champ and his agent know the reasons for whatever they are doing and us common folk will find out when it's about to be done

it seriously is like the Doom situation, I wouldn't sweat it

Beantown Bronco
10-08-2010, 09:56 AM
it seriously is like the Doom situation, I wouldn't sweat it

Let's hope not EXACTLY the same....considering Doom was lost for the year less than a week after signing his deal. :)

Rabb
10-08-2010, 09:58 AM
Let's hope not EXACTLY the same....considering Doom was lost for the year less than a week after signing his deal. :)

I am going to pretend you didn't say that Mr. Town

jhns
10-08-2010, 09:58 AM
It is pretty easy to see what is going on. McDaniels likes to piss me off. I had many current player jerseys when he started and now Champ is the last of them. Champ is as good as gone.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-08-2010, 10:02 AM
Oh good. Overreaction time came early today.

BigPlayShay
10-08-2010, 10:06 AM
http://twitter.com/MaxBroncos

"We want Champ Bailey to be here; we want him to finish his career here, no question about it." -- McDaniels #Broncos

"If there's something that can happen sooner rather than later, that's what we want to do. I love the guy...Nobody here wants him to leave."

Missouribronc
10-08-2010, 10:08 AM
likes to piss me off.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQVY9tyHmWSQ8B0ZA4P-LzQnLKOkTqyuIY3bbXhZCda6TYME3I&t=1&usg=__6OesWlNkYUZdbGGfdWLfbUXdkLA=

Baba Booey
10-08-2010, 10:19 AM
"Jst gt a txt f/ vtrn plyr in lckr rm...said nbdy can b-leave this...team distrakted"

Rock Chalk
10-08-2010, 10:22 AM
http://twitter.com/MaxBroncos

"We want Champ Bailey to be here; we want him to finish his career here, no question about it." -- McDaniels #Broncos

"If there's something that can happen sooner rather than later, that's what we want to do. I love the guy...Nobody here wants him to leave."

This is satisfactory for me and I will put this topic to bed.

outdoor_miner
10-08-2010, 10:37 AM
I don't understand why everyone gets so wrapped up in the contract negotiation process. There are ALWAYS ups and downs in these things, with both sides trying to get the best deal possible. Who knows? Maybe Champ's agent did something to piss the Broncos off or vice-versa. You know that Champ is getting his information from the Agent, who has a vested interest in things....

Doom came out and said he was "disappointed" just before a deal was made. Same with Weigmann last year. McD has made it clear he wants Champ to retire a Bronco, and it appears Champ feels the same. So, chill out until we are getting close to the end of the season. Until then, this is all just hand-wringing.

bendog
10-08-2010, 10:48 AM
Anything, honestly. A reason for cutting off the negotiation. Anything that would shed more light on the situation is what I'd like.

Seems like it would be in their best interests to do that, what with a lot of folks being anti-McDaniels and anti-FO. /shrug

I think the plan all along was to low ball everyone they could and wait to see what the new cba has to offer. That isn't really stupid or anyting other teams aren't doing too. Doom was a little unique because regardless of the CBA, pass rushers are seen as valuable. If Doom didn't get hurt and racked up another 10plus sack season, which was more likely than what happened, the broncs aren't saving money.

With champ, the only thing that's curious is why they were apparantly so close to getting it done. Did champ surprise them by takign a low ball? Did Den screw up by offering more than they later decided was what they should have offered? It makes no sense to make an offer and then jerk it if the guy says he'll take it. But who knows. Hopefully, McDaniels hasn't pissed off Champ too much, because it'd be nice to see him finish in Den, and I'd like to see how he can do as a weakside safety.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-08-2010, 11:55 AM
Huh? To my knowledge, the Chiefs have only had one player in the last decade that moved on in free agency that was a franchise favorite worth keeping around.

I don't really know why that's relevant.

What's relevant is you looking at meaningless playoff wins with rose-colored glasses.

It smacks of mullets and camaros.

Of course you guys have one playoff win in 11 years...and most likely this will be the 12th year...

You're becoming just like Chiefs fans.

tsiguy96
10-08-2010, 12:08 PM
mcdaniels from the press conference, for the retards.

"If there's something that can happen sooner rather than later, that's what we want to do. I love the guy...Nobody here wants him to leave."

"We want Champ Bailey to be here; we want him to finish his career here, no question about it." -- McDaniels #Broncos

bendog
10-08-2010, 12:19 PM
mcdaniels from the press conference, for the retards.

"If there's something that can happen sooner rather than later, that's what we want to do. I love the guy...Nobody here wants him to leave."

"We want Champ Bailey to be here; we want him to finish his career here, no question about it." -- McDaniels #Broncos

you know a coach lies when his lips move. (-: If the broncs wanted it done sooner, it'd be done now. I will still be surprised if Champ isn't resigned, though.

Missouribronc
10-08-2010, 12:35 PM
you know a coach lies when his lips move. (-: If the broncs wanted it done sooner, it'd be done now. I will still be surprised if Champ isn't resigned, though.

Damned if he does.

Damned if he doesn't.

bendog
10-08-2010, 12:49 PM
exactly.

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller
What are they supposed to say? We want to see what happens with a new CBA first? We want to see how he finishes the season before we decide how much we want to pay him going forward?

They say anything that doesn't turn out to be true, and people on this board start screaming that McD and the organization lied to Champ, much like some still claim from the whole Cutler saga.

They don't have to say anything, and they shouldn't.
--

There's nothing positive that McDaniels can say. But I still think it's better than even money that champ is resigned after the new cba assuming he doesn't break down during the season.

BMarsh615
10-08-2010, 01:21 PM
CB Champ Bailey, on halted negotiations on a contract extension: "I thought we found a way to make it work, but I was apparently wrong. My optimism is slowly fading away about staying here."

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/14097266

CB Champ Bailey, who's in the final year of his deal, was asked if getting a contract offer from Denver now or, say, February mattered, since the Broncos have ceased talks. "Yeah, it matters," he said. "No. 1, after the season it's not just with the Broncos; I'm not with anybody. So my options are open."

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/14097278

Bahshay
10-08-2010, 01:42 PM
I just feel that we hired a coach who's reach has exceeded his grasp. This is a proud franchise, and bringing in a coach for a few years of on the job training is not what some had in mind. Argue all you want but this is how it looks to me.

So were you pissed about the Shanny hiring too?

Successful offensive coordinator. Slightly more experience in head coaching than McD (20 games 5 years before we signed him), albeit with a losing record.

Just saying.

jhns
10-08-2010, 01:44 PM
So were you pissed about the Shanny hiring too?

Successful offensive coordinator. Slightly more experience in head coaching than McD (20 games 5 years before we signed him), albeit with a losing record.

Just saying.

Did you really just compare Shanahans pre-Broncos resume to McDaniels?

That is a good joke.

Gutless Drunk
10-08-2010, 03:34 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...ying-in-denver

DENVER (AP) - Could Champ Bailey's days in Denver be numbered? The nine-time Pro Bowl cornerback is starting to think so.

Bailey and his agent, Jack Reale, were close to hashing out a four-year extension that would have kept the star defensive back in Denver through 2014 when the Broncos decided to pull the offer off the table this week and broke off negotiations.

"I thought we found a way to make it work, but apparently I was wrong," Bailey told The Associated Press on Friday. "My thing is, my optimism is slowly fading away about staying here."

The 32-year-old Bailey is in the final season of a seven-year deal and can become an unrestricted free agent after this season.

Coach Josh McDaniels said Friday the Broncos want Bailey to finish his career in Denver but suggested the timing just wasn't good right now.

Bailey said the Broncos' decision to postpone talks on a deal after submitting a proposal to his agent last week, however, makes him wonder if he'll soon be playing somewhere else.

Bailey also suggested on his weekly radio show on KXDP-FM this week that, given the stalled status of his contract talks, he wouldn't be surprised if he's traded by the Oct. 19 deadline.

"There's so many people just changing teams. I just think anything can happen at any time," Bailey said. "So, I'm telling you, if you're a guy in your last year or you want a new contract or you're a free agent, you might go somewhere else. Do I really need to spell it out for you?"

Bailey said he wouldn't request a trade, though.

"I'm just saying (a trade is) always a possibility," he said, pointing out the Patriots' trade of Randy Moss back to the Minnesota Vikings this week. "It wouldn't surprise me. Things like that wouldn't surprise me, but I'm not saying that we're going to ask for a trade or anything. I love being here. So, I wouldn't do that."

Bailey said he feels he's playing as well as he ever has after overcoming a string of injuries in recent years.

"I've battled some pretty major injuries and, fortunately, I've gotten myself healthy enough to play again and play at a high level and, you know, that's all I can do. I really can't lose sleep over what's going on right now," Bailey said on his show. "I'm still auditioning for 31 other teams, so my play with speak for itself and ... the money will come when it needs to."

McDaniels said Friday that putting an extension on the back burner doesn't mean the Broncos want to cut ties with Bailey.

"We're not going to talk about the contract and all that stuff in general, but we want Champ Bailey to be here. We want him to finish his career here," McDaniels said. "There's a lot of little things that go into these things. These things take time to get right and sometimes the timing of it doesn't match with the player's desire or our desire, but ultimately when they get worked out everybody's content and happy.

McDaniels suggested that general manager Brian Xanders' negotiations with Reale were complicated and just needed more time.

bronclvr
10-08-2010, 03:38 PM
McDaniels suggested that general manager Brian Xanders' negotiations with Reale were complicated and just needed more time.

Gawd, I hope this is the case-

BMarsh615
10-08-2010, 03:50 PM
http://community.kdvr.com/_Champ-Bailey-on-delayed-contract-status-I-dont-really-want-to-move/blog/2710943/96399.html

Friday October 7, 2010 1:38pm M.D.T

It is a fact that Champ Bailey turned 32 three months ago, and that his performance has statistically declined in some categories over the last several years. But there’s no doubt the veteran cornerback remains one of the best players at his position, is still capable of producing at a very high level, and is a cornerstone of the Denver Broncos’ defense.

So why hasn’t the organization completed a contract extension for its nine-time Pro-Bowler?

Champ Bailey’s agent, Jack Reale, received some unexpected news from the Broncos earlier this week.

“Apparently there won’t be any further discussions about Champ’s contract until at least after the season. This is not our choice. This is a choice by the Broncos. We’ll respect that and move on if we have to,” said Reale to Fox31’s Josina Anderson Thursday afternoon.

However Bailey, who is in the final season of a seven-year, $63 million deal he signed upon his arrival in Denver via a 2004 trade with the Washington Redskins for Clinton Portis, told Anderson without hesitation his first preference is to stay in Denver.

“Oh yes, absolutely. Because I feel good coming here,” said Bailey. “I love this city and it’s a great place to play. It’s the only team in this region so we have a lot of fan base. I mean it’s just a great place, and a great fit. I don’t like changing too much. I don’t really want to move.”

Leading into this year, Bailey never had thoughts that he may have to.

After the Broncos extended the contracts of restricted free agents Chris Kuper, Elvis Dumervil, and Kyle Orton before the end of camp, Reale and the Broncos’ brass had their own discussions up to the Thursday before the start of the regular season.

But thereafter, scheduling conflicts impeded discussing terms further and talks stalled for a couple of weeks.

Then late last week, sources say the Broncos emailed a proposal to Bailey’s agent that was to be reviewed by both parties. Instead this past Tuesday the follow-up conference call was alternately used to inform Reale the Broncos were pulling out of talks until the end of the season.

Just like that.

But from Bailey’s point of view, this latest development is one he forecasted as a possibility that would neither leave him surprised nor rattled.

Bailey knows the stone-cold reality is that the Broncos have every right to make their own business decisions and consider what they feel are legitimate concerns.



The Age Factor:

It’s no secret that in many cases players tend to see their skill and speed diminish after the age of 30. However, to be fair, this doesn’t mean there aren’t exceptional cases, nor does it mean that evidence of decline won’t reach a level that’s still higher than most other players.

Bailey, of course, doesn’t feel like there should be any age discrimination in situations such as his. Rather, he feels a player’s current level of play should be the biggest factor in contract status. When there’s evidence a player’s capabilities have declined, or that an organization is not using a player as much, then Bailey says a contract should be altered at that time.

“I think you deal with that when that period comes. I mean when a guy’s playing at a high level right now, give him high level money and that’s just the way it should be. It’s not about what you got left, that’ll come. So many guys get cut because they don’t play up to their contract. There will be a time when you’re making top dollar and you start fading that’ll happen. It is what it is. You just got to play and get paid what you deserve,” noted Bailey.

Take Charles Woodson for example.

Last season, Woodson was still productive enough to win the 2009 Defensive Player of the Year, and arguably had his best statistical season as a 33-year old.



Charles Woodson 2009:

16GS, 16G, 9INT, 3 TD, 4FF, 2Sk, 65Tkl

The Green Bay Packers, an organization whose business model traditionally does not contractually extend veterans, recognized an exception, and financially rewarded Woodson’s production.



The Production Factor:

But now the question becomes how similar are Woodson’s and Bailey’s situations when evaluating their production at this point in their careers nose-to-nose?

The fact is a true Woodson analogy does not completely compare with Bailey when many consider Bailey’s best year was four years back in 2006.

Champ Bailey [2006] [2009]

16G, 16GS, 10INT, 1TD, 0FF, 0Sk 74Tkl 16G, 16GS, 3INT, 0TD, 1FF, 0Sk, 61Tkl

But it’s also true that Bailey has technically had four different defensive coordinators in seven years since arriving in Denver in ‘04 (Jim Bates held the title of assistant head coach/defense in 2007), and that Bailey believes his elite ability cannot totally be measured by statistics.

“I mean stats can be overrated and underrated sometimes. You can’t really look at the stats and get a feel for how a guy’s year went. One thing they hardly ever put on stats, unless you look deeper, is how many times you got beat and how many errors did he have. You know if you’re accountable in those areas in the game that means you’re doing some effective things on the field,” explained Bailey.

“Obviously I’ve played for a lot of different people. I think what it boils down to is really can this guy match up to the best? And can he do it for 16 games? I know I can do it.”

What Bailey likes to emphasize now are the stats that aren’t commonly underlined: how many times was his side of the field avoided; how many touchdowns did he prevent; how many plays did he participate in.

In 2009, the only two cornerbacks in the NFL that played 98 percent of the defensive snaps were Bailey and ironically the much younger Darrelle Revis of the New York Jets.

To that end, Bailey feels a corner’s true ability to match up one-on-one is reflected in how much that corner is ultimately used by their club against the opponent’s best wide receiver threat. Thus, this is also partly why Bailey was so supportive of Revis’ 35-day holdout from the Jets organization this offseason.

Revis, 25, who is regarded by many as the best corner in the league, got a new deal reportedly worth $46 million dollars right before the start of the 2010 regular season.

“Well I’m not going to say there’s no selfish reason behind it. I mean the more (Revis) gets paid the more I get paid. I mean it’s like that, but, that’s not the only reason I say it,” explained Bailey.

“I mean we got to stick together in this thing. I’m going to drive him, build him up as much as I can to get every guy in this league as much as they deserve. If my voice means anything, I’m going to say something.”



So what’s the bottom line for Bailey?

Make mo mistake Bailey wants to get paid what he feels he deserves, so the money factor is self-explanatory.

However, since the Georgia product was originally drafted by the Washington Redskins in 1999, Bailey has yet to win the Super Bowl he covets. Winning is a big deal to Champ. Now while Bailey has an opportunity to scout for better opportunities for accomplishing that feat on the free agent market next season--withstanding a prolonged 2011 lockout--the reality is Bailey truly believes the Broncos have just as good a chance as any other team he could go to.

Yes the Broncos.

“I know we have a shot at winning. And whether it’s this year or next, I want to be here when it happens because I know we can, we got a good coach so we can definitely improve from where we are now.”

No doubt, there are plenty of blue-chip contenders that may need support at corner. New England Patriots? New Orleans Saints? Indianapolis Colts?

“Some people make the mistake of believing the grass is always greener on the other side. It’s not always greener. There are a lot of 3-1 teams a lot of 2-2 teams, you can’t tell who’s who. Besides you really don’t know until down the stretch. Who’s to say we can’t take down one of those teams,” said Bailey emphatically.

In the end, Broncos fans should understand that Denver’s latest delay tactic did not walk these negotiations a step in the most optimal direction. But, however it ends, you can be confident Bailey’s memories of his experience in this city will be mostly positive.

“Well one thing about it I’m not too sensitive about big decisions like this. I’ll be a little disappointed. I wouldn’t want to leave, but if the offer is not presented to me to stay, then I’ll leave. No hard feelings. (I’ve had) seven great years, and I’m proud of what I’ve done here.”

“I’m not going to cry about it. I might just have to leave and that’s just how it may to be.”

The MVPlaya
10-08-2010, 03:52 PM
BMarsh615, just leave now, just stop following the Broncos now. I mean NOW.http://threadbombing.com/data/media/2/Rachel_Riley_GTFO.gif

zdoor
10-08-2010, 03:54 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...ying-in-denver

DENVER (AP) - Could Champ Bailey's days in Denver be numbered? The nine-time Pro Bowl cornerback is starting to think so.

Bailey and his agent, Jack Reale, were close to hashing out a four-year extension that would have kept the star defensive back in Denver through 2014 when the Broncos decided to pull the offer off the table this week and broke off negotiations.

"I thought we found a way to make it work, but apparently I was wrong," Bailey told The Associated Press on Friday. "My thing is, my optimism is slowly fading away about staying here."

The 32-year-old Bailey is in the final season of a seven-year deal and can become an unrestricted free agent after this season.

Coach Josh McDaniels said Friday the Broncos want Bailey to finish his career in Denver but suggested the timing just wasn't good right now.

Bailey said the Broncos' decision to postpone talks on a deal after submitting a proposal to his agent last week, however, makes him wonder if he'll soon be playing somewhere else.

Bailey also suggested on his weekly radio show on KXDP-FM this week that, given the stalled status of his contract talks, he wouldn't be surprised if he's traded by the Oct. 19 deadline.

"There's so many people just changing teams. I just think anything can happen at any time," Bailey said. "So, I'm telling you, if you're a guy in your last year or you want a new contract or you're a free agent, you might go somewhere else. Do I really need to spell it out for you?"

Bailey said he wouldn't request a trade, though.

"I'm just saying (a trade is) always a possibility," he said, pointing out the Patriots' trade of Randy Moss back to the Minnesota Vikings this week. "It wouldn't surprise me. Things like that wouldn't surprise me, but I'm not saying that we're going to ask for a trade or anything. I love being here. So, I wouldn't do that."

Bailey said he feels he's playing as well as he ever has after overcoming a string of injuries in recent years.

"I've battled some pretty major injuries and, fortunately, I've gotten myself healthy enough to play again and play at a high level and, you know, that's all I can do. I really can't lose sleep over what's going on right now," Bailey said on his show. "I'm still auditioning for 31 other teams, so my play with speak for itself and ... the money will come when it needs to."

McDaniels said Friday that putting an extension on the back burner doesn't mean the Broncos want to cut ties with Bailey.

"We're not going to talk about the contract and all that stuff in general, but we want Champ Bailey to be here. We want him to finish his career here," McDaniels said. "There's a lot of little things that go into these things. These things take time to get right and sometimes the timing of it doesn't match with the player's desire or our desire, but ultimately when they get worked out everybody's content and happy.

McDaniels suggested that general manager Brian Xanders' negotiations with Reale were complicated and just needed more time.

Let's hope that last sentence is the case. IMO Champ deserves better than this... the guy has always been a team first player.

The MVPlaya
10-08-2010, 03:55 PM
Let's hope that last sentence is the case. IMO Champ deserves better than this... the guy has always been a team first player.

So is Manning

Business is business and the CBA is ****ing all this **** up.

Or is that too hard to understand?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-08-2010, 03:56 PM
Oh, how I adore the sensationalist sports media.

Headline: IS CHAMP LEAVING ZOMG!??!?!?!??
Last line: McDaniels suggested that general manager Brian Xanders' negotiations with Reale were complicated and just needed more time.

guh.

IHaveALight
10-08-2010, 05:01 PM
I see this as being The Elvis Dumervil Effect.

The Broncos extended Dumervil then he goes down with a major injury that would have changed his extension had it happened prior.
They already know their extending Champ. They've talked numbers with his agent and know that they can make it work. But because of what happened to Doom their going to wait it out to the end of the year and make sure they don't get burned by injury again.

FantomForce
10-08-2010, 05:31 PM
IF we pull a Randy Moss trade with Champ, OMFH, the Sh*T will hit the fan

extralife
10-08-2010, 05:52 PM
this is starting to sound pretty bad

rbackfactory80
10-08-2010, 06:10 PM
It is possible they are involved in something before the trade deadline. I don't necessarily think it has to do with Champ but I can see them halting business if they were trying to acquire another player.

If Champ does play out this year and they offer him a deal after he has another pro-bowl type year I feel that he would walk. It would be just too tempting. Not to mention, what happens if Denver does not seem to be heading in the right direction after the season. At his age he might take a gamble on a team that looked more like a guaranteed winner. If they get the deal done now neither the team's future nor dollars will be as important.

Missouribronc
10-08-2010, 10:16 PM
this is starting to sound pretty bad

Drama Queen much?

New England trades a player that wanted to be traded, and talks about negotiations for a contract for a player in Denver get released to the media, who admits he wants to be in Denver the rest of his career, and people start freaking out about a trade?

Stupid is as stupid does.

Archer81
10-08-2010, 10:41 PM
The Magic Eightball says the signs point to yes for Champ being a Bronco in 2011 and beyond.

If you ask it if drama on the Mane will die, it says results fuzzy ask again later.

:Broncos:

zdoor
10-08-2010, 11:56 PM
something more positive(from ESPN):

By Bill Williamson
Denver Broncos coach Josh McDaniels made it clear Friday that even though the team has tabled contract extension talks with star left cornerback Champ Bailey, it has all intentions of securing the player for the long term. McDaniels told reporters in Denver on Friday:

“We want Champ Bailey to be here, we want him to finish his career here -- there’s no question about it. There are a lot of little things that go into these things. A lot of these things take time to get right, and sometimes the timing of it doesn’t match with the player’s desire or our desire but ultimately when they get worked out everybody is content and happy. Certainly, if there’s something that can happen sooner rather than later, then that’s what we’ll want to do. I know I love the guy. He has been great for me professionally (and) personally, he’s been great for our locker room, and nobody here wants him to leave. There are a lot of things that go on into these things and factor into timing. [General Manager] Brian [Xanders] has handled these things great throughout the course of the offseason, and I expect that to be the case with this -- it just may take a little while.”


The Broncos need to get this deal done soon since Bailey is a an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season.

TheReverend
10-09-2010, 12:06 AM
BMarsh615, just leave now, just stop following the Broncos now. I mean NOW.

Yes. How dare he post articles on the subject in the appropriate existing thread on the appropriate message board.

So is Manning

Business is business and the CBA is ****ing all this **** up.

Or is that too hard to understand?

Wtf is your problem?

TheReverend
10-09-2010, 12:08 AM
I think Champ has 6 years of elite level football left in him. Hoping a deal gets done soon.

OABB
10-09-2010, 12:24 AM
Did you really just compare Shanahans pre-Broncos resume to McDaniels?

That is a good joke.

I haven't seen you in the orton threads very much lately. Are you just real busy or something?

Rock Chalk
10-09-2010, 08:03 AM
I think Champ has 6 years of elite level football left in him. Hoping a deal gets done soon.

I hope you are right. 6 years of elite football out of champ and we've already gotten 7 out of him?

He's definitely the kind of player worth two big monster pay days in a career.

SoCalBronco
10-09-2010, 12:05 PM
this is starting to sound pretty bad

No...its just business. The team has to make thorough evaluations of what it has in its young players and has to continue to monitor Bailey's effectiveness. There are also issues of when he should be paid like a Top 5 safety rather than a Top 5 CB and those are complicated issues. I don't fault anyone, here.

Dagmar
10-09-2010, 12:13 PM
Exactly SoCal. It's a complicated issue folks. He is going to continue to be an excellent corner, but age may mean a move to safety (just because he isn't keen right now doesn't mean he won't realize in the future it's the right thing to do). Also the added CBA confusion, this isn't a deal that was going to be done easily.

Relax. Champ wants to stay, Josh wants him to stay. Those are the important parts.

Not everything that happens with the Broncos is dramatic

http://funnyfreepics.com/images/chill_pill.jpg.

cutthemdown
10-09-2010, 12:18 PM
I could see it not working out for champ if he wants another huge deal.

He probably still deserves it, but Broncos may balk. I hope not though I love champ.

WolfpackGuy
10-09-2010, 12:38 PM
Did any of the money figures come out?

TheReverend
10-09-2010, 12:58 PM
Did any of the money figures come out?

4 kabillion with 90 gillion guaranteed

BroncoLifer
10-09-2010, 01:02 PM
4 kabillion with 90 gillion guaranteed

I heard it was eleventy zillion.

WolfpackGuy
10-09-2010, 01:10 PM
4 kabillion with 90 gillion guaranteed

Helluva bargain.

HEAV
10-09-2010, 02:31 PM
The Broncos need to get this deal done soon since Bailey is a an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season.

There are tags for a reason. Plus who knows if there will be a 2011 season (Lockout)?

Champ can't walk for free if there is a season in 2011. The team will tag him and work out something.

ColoradoDarin
10-09-2010, 02:39 PM
Someone needs to bump the Doom contract thread....

cutthemdown
10-09-2010, 03:51 PM
Someone needs to bump the Doom contract thread....

Hmm not much to compare. One is a young stud getting his first big deal. The other an aging vet trying for one more pay day. What is it that you see as a comparison of the two and how can we glean any relevant information from looking at the Doom thread?

Rock Chalk
10-09-2010, 04:07 PM
Hmm not much to compare. One is a young stud getting his first big deal. The other an aging vet trying for one more pay day. What is it that you see as a comparison of the two and how can we glean any relevant information from looking at the Doom thread?

Nothing if you are looking at the actual events.

But you can gather a lot about how stupid the Mane is about contracts. Melo-dramatic and over-reactionary.

ColoradoDarin
10-09-2010, 05:55 PM
Nothing if you are looking at the actual events.

But you can gather a lot about how stupid the Mane is about contracts. Melo-dramatic and over-reactionary.

Exactly.

oubronco
10-09-2010, 06:14 PM
Nothing if you are looking at the actual events.

But you can gather a lot about how stupid the Mane is about contracts. Melo-dramatic and over-reactionary.

Naaaaaaaaaw

Cito Pelon
10-09-2010, 07:32 PM
Both sides are playing their cards. They're in competition for quite a few million dollars, so there's gonna be some posturing from both sides.

CEH
10-09-2010, 07:55 PM
You guys realize if Denver signs Champ to a contract guaranteed for skill and injury , Denver must fund the whole contract which means they have to send a check to the league office to cover the contract. In that case there is no IOU

Could be talking alot of money so with the uncertainty of the labor they may just be waiting to see how things play out

baja
10-09-2010, 10:18 PM
I think Champ has 6 years of elite level football left in him. Hoping a deal gets done soon..

I will be shocked and pissed if we do not sign the Champ.

He is the poster boy for the kind of player Josh covets, we'll sign him.

baja
10-09-2010, 10:28 PM
There are tags for a reason. Plus who knows if there will be a 2011 season (Lockout)?

Champ can't walk for free if there is a season in 2011. The team will tag him and work out something.

This is what I think too. I suspect the CPA talks took a turn for the worse.

strafen
10-09-2010, 11:06 PM
This is what I think too. I suspect the CPA talks took a turn for the worse.That's why I've had H&R Block do our taxes this year ROFL!

baja
10-09-2010, 11:08 PM
That's why I've had H&R Block do our taxes this year ROFL!

I knew I had those enicles wrong. ;D

CEH
10-10-2010, 10:07 AM
You guys realize if Denver signs Champ to a contract guaranteed for skill and injury , Denver must fund the whole contract which means they have to send a check to the league office to cover the contract. In that case there is no IOU

Could be talking alot of money so with the uncertainty of the labor they may just be waiting to see how things play out

To add to my post

Kils just reported McX had a four year contract hammered out with Champ and was all but signed then the word came down form Bowlen and Ellis to hold off for now due to the uncertainity of the labor agreement

OABB
10-10-2010, 10:09 AM
To add to my post

Kils just reported McX had a four year contract hammered out with Champ and was all but signed then the word came down form Bowlen and Ellis to hold off for now due to the uncertainity of the labor agreement

McHitler strikes again!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-10-2010, 10:10 AM
drunken coward.

Beantown Bronco
10-10-2010, 10:16 AM
To add to my post

Kils just reported McX had a four year contract hammered out with Champ and was all but signed then the word came down form Bowlen and Ellis to hold off for now due to the uncertainity of the labor agreement

If this is true, then this is very telling about how the labor negotiations are going. Everyone that needed to be re-signed during the offseason was dealt with quickly (when labor negotiations perhaps looked good to Bowlen), but now he's saying hold off. I'm assuming something has happened in the last month or two that leads him to believe the odds of a lockout happening just swung that way.