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Smiling Assassin27
10-07-2010, 08:10 AM
Now lest you think this waiver process would be consistent, systematic, and rational, let me reassure you, it isn't. It's arbitrary, cumbersome, and essentially accentuates what we already know: this bill was an overreaching, premature, and insufficient effort at health care reform.

As Obama administration officials put into place the first major wave of changes under the health care legislation, they have tried to defuse stiffening resistance — from companies like McDonald’s and some insurers — by granting dozens of waivers to maintain even minimal coverage far below the new law’s standards.


If you're the mindless 'i hate corporations' type (you know who you are), then you should be livid because the Administration basically succumbed to the whining of SOME corporations as to the burdensome nature of the bill. If you're the 'let business run America' type, you also should be livid from the Administration's arbitrary and unfair waiver process and subsequent uncertainty in an already uncertain marketplace. If you're an anti-government type, you should be livid because this administration and Congress has once again (just like they did with the housing sector) rammed thru a horrible bill and then heaped moronic procedures on top of it while only NOW starting to find out what the bill actually SAYS.

McDonald's said jump and Obama's people said how high. Let's see just how much McD's ends up donating to the DNC.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/business/07insure.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-07-2010, 08:12 AM
Yep - your party's ideas about how to fix health care were so much better.





Oh wait...

Rohirrim
10-07-2010, 08:31 AM
It is funny to see the Right come out criticizing Obama's bill. After all, when they had the chance to do something about it, they sat on their hands and said "No." Now, they are suddenly very talkative. Bunch of ****ing hypocrites.

Anyway, I'm glad to see these half-assed reforms going down in flames. Obama needs to learn, the object of war is to kill the enemy, not to nick him. This reform idea was nothing more than legislative duct tape. It doesn't fix anything.

Mr.Meanie
10-07-2010, 08:34 AM
While I think that is a really stupid idea, the waivers are for 1 year to give some of these companies time to ease the transition. It's not like they are exempt.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-07-2010, 08:52 AM
It is funny to see the Right come out criticizing Obama's bill. After all, when they had the chance to do something about it, they sat on their hands and said "No." Now, they are suddenly very talkative. Bunch of ****ing hypocrites.


Same thing is true of their squawking about spending, deficits, etc.

Amazing how they suddenly found their voice after eight years of silence, eh?

Ha!

bronclvr
10-07-2010, 08:59 AM
Yep - your party's ideas about how to fix health care were so much better.





Oh wait...

Nice deflection, now why don't YOU address the OP?

Pony Boy
10-07-2010, 09:03 AM
The biggest single waiver, for 351,000 people, was for the United Federation of Teachers Welfare Fund, a New York union providing coverage for city teachers


Oh yes we must protect Obama's union pals.......Just imagine the back scratching that went into this deal......

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2010-10-07-healthlaw07_ST_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-07-2010, 09:05 AM
Nice deflection, now why don't YOU address the OP?

Already have - more than once.

That is, the republi-cons got nearly everything they wanted, so why are they complaining?

Answer: They have absolutely no interest in fixing America's broken health care system - they simply want to make sure Obama fails inasmuch as this is their only hope for a return to power.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-07-2010, 09:05 AM
Insurance firms infuse GOP with big doses of cash (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-1004-health-insurance-politics20101004,0,6752608.story?page=1)

bronclvr
10-07-2010, 09:06 AM
Already have - more than once.

That is, the republi-cons got nearly everything they wanted, so why are they complaining?

Answer: They have absolutely no interest in fixing America's broken health care system - they simply want to make sure Obama fails inasmuch as this is their only hope for a return to power.

For the first time in a long time I agree you on something-

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2010, 10:50 AM
It is funny to see the Right come out criticizing Obama's bill. After all, when they had the chance to do something about it, they sat on their hands and said "No." Now, they are suddenly very talkative. Bunch of ****ing hypocrites.

Anyway, I'm glad to see these half-assed reforms going down in flames. Obama needs to learn, the object of war is to kill the enemy, not to nick him. This reform idea was nothing more than legislative duct tape. It doesn't fix anything.

You speak about forcing socialist politices on people who dont want them as "killing the enemy" in a war. The Tea Party are a bunch of saints compared to that line of thinking. You have also alluded to civil war in several threads. Maybe you should realize that your fellow people are worth more than the advancement of socialism.

What is shocking about SmilingAssassin's post, is how poorly thought out the bill was. It was obviously thrown together without much planning and forced through just so they could manage to get it done before people were on to what they were up to.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-07-2010, 03:05 PM
http://www.bartcop.com/hc-o-part.jpg