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maven
05-12-2011, 06:52 PM
Atlanta is a hard team to watch.

Missouribronc
05-12-2011, 06:57 PM
Seriously? That's just pure bull****. As much as I hate to disagree with you and (ahem) agree with Drama...Lebron had EVERYTHING he wanted and more. Hand picked players, coaches fired at will, playing AT HOME for an owner that was willing to spend any amount of money on him. Weren't going to invest in the rest of the team??? They brought in piece after piece after piece to try and make it work, and still he left. Follow along: Boozer - screwed them after they went to resign him to a mega deal, bailed and went to Utah. Larry Hughes, Ben wallace, Joe Smith, Wally Szcerbieak, Delonte West, Mo Williams, Shaq, Jamario moon, Antwawn Jamison....all players shuffled in and out to try to make "the king" happy, and to combat the previous years failings in the playoffs. Then, they axed brown, and went after Izzo. None of it was good enough to sign that next extension for that douche. He didn't tell the owner anything about his plans...no, he went ahead and just dropped the bomb with his own ****ing show on national television. **** you cleveland fans. And no, that wasn't an impromptu decision. It was set in motion after the 2008 olympics, but he didn't have the balls to say anything. Not to mention the poor sportsmanship after getting played off the court in that game 5, the crybaby attitude in general, and numerous other little "signs" (that gif of him purposely throwing his warmups one after the other away from the equipment guy is just pathetic) that he's a raging narcissist, firmly cement him in douchebag lore to anyone not wearing a Miami jersey right now.

Is he an incredible basketball player? Sure he is. But don't try and kid yourself, the guy is a douchenozzle.

Not a single one of those players can hold the jock of Wade or Bosh, even in their prime, and most were hired on after their prime.

Cleveland got ****ed by a storm of the century, which wasn't necessarily LeBron's fault or doing. Sure, The Decision, it's his fault, but not the situation he had presented to him on a silver platter.

He had to take it...the opportunity to go to a team with three All-Stars? And not just All-Stars, but Top-15 players?

If that makes him selfish, fine, but he wasn't going to get that situation in Cleveland no matter how hard he tried. Fault him for how he did it, sure, but not THAT he did it.

And sure enough, Stern wants to take the league by its balls in the next CBA, and partly because of the loopholes that allowed LeBron and Bosh to move to Miami. But I can't fault the athletes for the system.

I don't like the Heat. I don't like LeBron. I don't like Bosh (I like Wade). I will root like hell for Derrick Rose, who I think is awesome (subjectively), but I'm not going to put vitriol and idiotic-directed hate at a man I don't know.

Boobs McGee
05-12-2011, 07:04 PM
Not a single one of those players can hold the jock of Wade or Bosh, even in their prime, and most were hired on after their prime.

Cleveland got ****ed by a storm of the century, which wasn't necessarily LeBron's fault or doing. Sure, The Decision, it's his fault, but not the situation he had presented to him on a silver platter.

He had to take it...the opportunity to go to a team with three All-Stars? And not just All-Stars, but Top-15 players?

If that makes him selfish, fine, but he wasn't going to get that situation in Cleveland no matter how hard he tried. Fault him for how he did it, sure, but not THAT he did it.

And sure enough, Stern wants to take the league by its balls in the next CBA, and partly because of the loopholes that allowed LeBron and Bosh to move to Miami. But I can't fault the athletes for the system.

I don't like the Heat. I don't like LeBron. I don't like Bosh (I like Wade). I will root like hell for Derrick Rose, who I think is awesome (subjectively), but I'm not going to put vitriol and idiotic-directed hate at a man I don't know.

Fair enough...I'll fault him for HOW he did it ;D

Completely agree with the last two paragraphs, except for the last line of course. I'll be MORE than happy to spew enough hate for everyone else (we're never going to see eye to eye, so I'll just take one for the team:thumbs:).

GO BULLS!

edit: and ps, every time I read one of your posts, I picture your avvy (younger rodgers, right?) speaking. Kind of a Bob Ross voice going on haha

OrangeSe7en
05-12-2011, 07:20 PM
This has been a defensive clinic with the Bulls depth in the low post on full display. The Bulls have 5 quality low post players. They can give 28 fouls and still have two quality players in the post at the end of the game. My concern has been Thibs reluctance to rely on the depth but lately it hasnt been an issue at all.

oubronco
05-12-2011, 07:38 PM
Go Thunder!!!

Inkana7
05-12-2011, 08:12 PM
Watching LeBron quit on Cleveland fans in the playoffs last season was embarrassing to watch.

Try being one.

epicSocialism4tw
05-12-2011, 08:31 PM
Try being one.

Oh, you're a Cleveland fan?

Yikes.

I guess you'd probably rather see James move to the Azores and never be heard from again, eh?

maven
05-12-2011, 09:29 PM
"The Decision" was great for the league, great for notoriety, great for more people tuning in, great for potentially more fans, great for more love and hate. While it backfired on LeBron, the league as a whole gained. People actually talked about basketball all the way back from June to the first tip off of the season. And I would say more so lately. This year more people actually gave a **** as to what happened during the season. "The Decision" was a success.

epicSocialism4tw
05-12-2011, 09:56 PM
"The Decision" was great for the league, great for notoriety, great for more people tuning in, great for potentially more fans, great for more love and hate. While it backfired on LeBron, the league as a whole gained. People actually talked about basketball all the way back from June to the first tip off of the season. And I would say more so lately. This year more people actually gave a **** as to what happened during the season. "The Decision" was a success.

http://www.thuglaws.com/Smokin%20crack.jpg

maven
05-12-2011, 10:03 PM
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/07/19/0719-lebron-james-splash-credit.jpg

You have commented on LeBron James how many times in this thread? Here's some eye candy for ya. Keep 'em coming.

:rofl:

cutthemdown
05-12-2011, 10:30 PM
"The Decision" was great for the league, great for notoriety, great for more people tuning in, great for potentially more fans, great for more love and hate. While it backfired on LeBron, the league as a whole gained. People actually talked about basketball all the way back from June to the first tip off of the season. And I would say more so lately. This year more people actually gave a **** as to what happened during the season. "The Decision" was a success.

You kidding about the ratings right? With Lakers and Boston out no one will be watching. I bet it will be a poor rating for the finals.

epicSocialism4tw
05-12-2011, 11:07 PM
You kidding about the ratings right? With Lakers and Boston out no one will be watching. I bet it will be a poor rating for the finals.

Yeah, the people in Miami dont even care.

TDmvp
05-12-2011, 11:12 PM
If the Miami makes it to the finals and is not doing well I think some people will tune in just to watch Lebron act like frown cannon 2.0 ...

epicSocialism4tw
05-12-2011, 11:16 PM
I think all the Lakers fans have scattered, but if some of you are still around, be sure to check dis, yo:

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It might be good for some of you to see that even guys like Leew Kareem Abduul Jabaar Alcindoor had pathetic outings in the playoffs and complained of getting roughed up by their opponent (Gasol complained about getting roughed up by Dirk).

cutthemdown
05-13-2011, 01:58 AM
Yeah, the people in Miami dont even care.

That can't make up for it. Let's just wait and see the rating, compare them to last yr, and then we will see who is right.

cutthemdown
05-13-2011, 02:04 AM
Also Epic the LA metro area is like 3-4 times as many people as the Miami Metro area. Throw in the fact that Laker fans stretch down to SD and out to Riverside counties and it will be hard for ratings to not go down.

Still not saying it won't be a great last 4 teams battling. I'm looking forward to seeing these teams battle it out for the trophy.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-13-2011, 04:47 AM
"The Decision" was great for the league, great for notoriety, great for more people tuning in, great for potentially more fans, great for more love and hate. While it backfired on LeBron, the league as a whole gained. People actually talked about basketball all the way back from June to the first tip off of the season. And I would say more so lately. This year more people actually gave a **** as to what happened during the season. "The Decision" was a success.

Be sure to cup the balls while you're down there.

OrangeCrush2724
05-13-2011, 07:14 AM
If the Miami makes it to the finals and is not doing well I think some people will tune in just to watch Lebron act like frown cannon 2.0 ...

So now people are comparing James to Cutler because they don't like him. Gotta love the hate...

Inkana7
05-13-2011, 09:04 AM
"The Decision" was great for the league, great for notoriety, great for more people tuning in, great for potentially more fans, great for more love and hate. While it backfired on LeBron, the league as a whole gained. People actually talked about basketball all the way back from June to the first tip off of the season. And I would say more so lately. This year more people actually gave a **** as to what happened during the season. "The Decision" was a success.

The Decision was probably the worst thing to happen to Basketball in a long time, especially if it sets precedent for all of the league's elite talents to collude and move to 2-3 franchises, making professional basketball a very boring thing to watch.

The league did not gain, the fans did not gain. If the trend set by it continues, the NBA will be ruined.

OrangeCrush2724
05-13-2011, 11:01 AM
"The Decision" was great for the league, great for notoriety, great for more people tuning in, great for potentially more fans, great for more love and hate. While it backfired on LeBron, the league as a whole gained. People actually talked about basketball all the way back from June to the first tip off of the season. And I would say more so lately. This year more people actually gave a **** as to what happened during the season. "The Decision" was a success.

2.5 million dollars to charity has come out with the worst thing Lebron has EVER done. He hasn't killed anybody. Hasn't gotten any DUI's. Hasen't had any affairs and rape charges. Hasn't been charged of carrying guns or anything like that. He grew up in the projects without a dad, and has never been involved with any crimes and has been an ideal citizen.

And yet by deciding to transfer to a new place he gets all this crap. Absolutely ridiculous...

SonOfLe-loLang
05-13-2011, 11:14 AM
You have commented on LeBron James how many times in this thread? Here's some eye candy for ya. Keep 'em coming.

:rofl:

I dont begrudge Bron for leaving Cleveland (though i still think NYC would have been a better choice in the long run), its funny that he has loyalty inked on his ribs

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-13-2011, 11:21 AM
HE DID IT FOR THE KIDS!

OABB
05-13-2011, 12:21 PM
who will choke first? Lebron or Dirk? That's why I'm watching.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-13-2011, 12:33 PM
who will choke first? Lebron or Dirk? That's why I'm watching.

Likely neither.

Mavs rebounded from blowing a 23-pt lead in Portland to take the next 2 to close out the series, including a win in the Rose Garden. Game 1, Los Angeles, came back from 16 down to win. Game 3, in Dallas, lead scoring surge in last 5 minutes to put Lakers in 0-3 hole. Game 4, in Dallas, smashed the Lakers by 36 to sweep the series.

maven
05-13-2011, 10:00 PM
A game 7. Wowsa!

The Mavs could of went on a vacation around the world and still be back in time for game 1.

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 06:27 AM
I don't know who Id rather see make it to the Western Conference finals. Memphis' scoring punch in the paint is pretty lethal. Plus they have some atleticism and scoring on the perimeter.

gunns
05-14-2011, 09:35 AM
2.5 million dollars to charity has come out with the worst thing Lebron has EVER done. He hasn't killed anybody. Hasn't gotten any DUI's. Hasen't had any affairs and rape charges. Hasn't been charged of carrying guns or anything like that. He grew up in the projects without a dad, and has never been involved with any crimes and has been an ideal citizen.

And yet by deciding to transfer to a new place he gets all this crap. Absolutely ridiculous...

Amazing, well not so much, that no one responds to this post which probably has the haters going "but, but, but, he wasn't loyal". It's a business, not a fraternity.

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 09:54 AM
2.5 million dollars to charity has come out with the worst thing Lebron has EVER done. He hasn't killed anybody. Hasn't gotten any DUI's. Hasen't had any affairs and rape charges. Hasn't been charged of carrying guns or anything like that. He grew up in the projects without a dad, and has never been involved with any crimes and has been an ideal citizen.

And yet by deciding to transfer to a new place he gets all this crap. Absolutely ridiculous...

You don't have to like someone just because they haven't been charged with rape. He brought it on himself. Its not the publics job to love him as long as he doesn't rape someone. The bigger issue is that he wants to do whatever he wants and then expects to still be loved. It doesnt work that way. He's the one who wants to be loved and preserve his brand. With that in mind, it's his job to then, assess what will be well received by the public. He didnt do that because he thought he could do whatever he wanted and still be loved. He was wrong and its on him.

OrangeCrush2724
05-14-2011, 11:09 AM
You don't have to like someone just because they haven't been charged with rape. He brought it on himself. Its not the publics job to love him as long as he doesn't rape someone. The bigger issue is that he wants to do whatever he wants and then expects to still be loved. It doesnt work that way. He's the one who wants to be loved and preserve his brand. With that in mind, it's his job to then, assess what will be well received by the public. He didnt do that because he thought he could do whatever he wanted and still be loved. He was wrong and its on him.

Do you realize that he has had more HATE from the national media and fans for doing the decision than anyone else charged with any type of crime. Including Kobe's rape charges? Was the decision that much worse than being accused of rape? Was the decision that much worse than getting DUI's? Was the decision that much worse than carnying guns to locker room? I think not. We all realize that the decision was stupid. But people need to get things into perspective. A man transfered his place of employment and did it in the worst possible way. Big f'in deal.

The Heat have more national media going against them then any team in memory in any sport. If this team wins it all, it will test the theory that "everybody loves winners."

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 11:32 AM
Do you realize that he has had more HATE from the national media and fans for doing the decision than anyone else charged with any type of crime.

Thats because he's famous. And that cuts both ways. He has also benefited from being famous.

Including Kobe's rape charges? Was the decision that much worse than being accused of rape? Was the decision that much worse than getting DUI's? Was the decision that much worse than carnying guns to locker room? I think not.

Kobe lost popularity because when he raped that girl and was put on trial. The difference is, Kobe didn't go around acting like a victim because of something he, himself, had done. This isnt an issue about whether what James did is worse than what Kobe did. Its as much about wanting to be famous and loved and then thinking you can do whatever you want and still expect to be loved.

We all realize that the decision was stupid. But people need to get things into perspective. A man transfered his place of employment and did it in the worst possible way. Big f'in deal.

You can't compare LeBron's situation to some ordinary Joe. People always say this. Its stupid. LeBron's situation is apples and oranges. If you're in a situation where you're profiting from having a brand, its on you to know your audience. If LeBron wants to be like some guy working in a factory, he should go get a job in a factory.

The Heat have more national media going against them then any team in memory in any sport. If this team wins it all, it will test the theory that "everybody loves winners."

People also don't like it when someone takes the easy way out. Theres also the issue that a lot of people have as to whether or not the Heat broke the rules in doing all of this. A lot of people will view it as cheapened and less legitimate. The Heat winning titles is kind of like the HR records of the steroid era.

Missouribronc
05-14-2011, 11:39 AM
The Heat have more national media going against them then any team in memory in any sport. If this team wins it all, it will test the theory that "everybody loves winners."

LOL...um, whatever...

12 of the 15 ESPN "experts" picked Miami to win this next series.

I just watched Steve Smith and Chris Webber predict a Heat win in the series.

Practically no one is "hating" on them. For the most part, now that they are past Boston, everyone thinks they are the favorites.

gunns
05-14-2011, 12:39 PM
You don't have to like someone just because they haven't been charged with rape. He brought it on himself. Its not the publics job to love him as long as he doesn't rape someone. The bigger issue is that he wants to do whatever he wants and then expects to still be loved. It doesnt work that way. He's the one who wants to be loved and preserve his brand. With that in mind, it's his job to then, assess what will be well received by the public. He didnt do that because he thought he could do whatever he wanted and still be loved. He was wrong and its on him.

WTF?? No nobody said you had to like him but the amount of hate this guy gets is laughable. And you say it's because he wants to do whatever he wants and then expects to still be loved? Again I say WTF? It's his life, his job, why can't he make his own decisions. Where does this "he still expects to be loved" thing come from? He was wrong? About what? Choosing to go to Miami? Yeah the announcement show was over the top, but to hate a guy with this intensity for it? This is the most unbelievable post I've seen and speaks to exactly what my post said. Very few of you can figure out why you don't like him, but because you don't, you hope he fails. WOW!

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 12:51 PM
WTF?? No nobody said you had to like him but the amount of hate this guy gets is laughable. And you say it's because he wants to do whatever he wants and then expects to still be loved? Again I say WTF? It's his life, his job, why can't he make his own decisions.

He would say that he's making mental notes of who's bad mouthing him, and then at other times, he has claimed the contrary. Also, did you not see the Nike commercial where he asked "what should I do"?

Again, no one is saying it isnt his life but thats doesnt mean that people have to be OK with what he does. You can say, since it's his life, he owes the public nothing. But that cuts both ways. He's owed nothing by the public.

Also understand that Im speaking in general terms and addressing what is a lot of sentiment out there. But people have their own reasons and its up to them to be specific about why they hate them (if they want to). They don't owe you or LeBron a reason for hating him (if they do hate him). So, the fact that Im not speaking more specifically has to do with me addressing macro level sentiment. You shouldnt be demanding micro level answers with that in mind.

OrangeCrush2724
05-14-2011, 01:35 PM
Again, no one is saying it isnt his life but thats doesnt mean that people have to be OK with what he does. You can say, since it's his life, he owes the public nothing. But that cuts both ways. He's owed nothing by the public.



People are not ok with what he does because that is not what they want for Lebron. When Ricky Williams retired, the fans hated him b/c it was "how dare he quit on MY FOOTBALL team to go find himself." How dare he quits because he is not happy. They hated him for selfish reasons...bc it was not doing them (their team) any good, regardless of what the player wanted to do in THEIR life.

OrangeCrush2724
05-14-2011, 01:43 PM
LOL...um, whatever...

12 of the 15 ESPN "experts" picked Miami to win this next series.

I just watched Steve Smith and Chris Webber predict a Heat win in the series.

Practically no one is "hating" on them. For the most part, now that they are past Boston, everyone thinks they are the favorites.

I was talking about rooting for the Heat to lose and lose miserably since the beginning of the season. Analysts are suppose to be unbiased. And they certainly were not with the Heat. Despite who they picked, it was clear who they were rooting for.

Edit: "I've never seen a team more criticized in my life and a guy in LeBron criticized for doing what was legal," Celtics coach Doc Rivers said. "He didn't break the law, he didn't do anything wrong. The preseason parade may have been a little much, but other than that, I just told him good luck and keep going. He was very emotional, and good for him. I don't think you can play this sport and be a winner without emotion."

OrangeCrush2724
05-14-2011, 01:50 PM
Thats because he's famous. And that cuts both ways. He has also benefited from being famous.



Kobe lost popularity because when he raped that girl and was put on trial. The difference is, Kobe didn't go around acting like a victim because of something he, himself, had done. This isnt an issue about whether what James did is worse than what Kobe did. Its as much about wanting to be famous and loved and then thinking you can do whatever you want and still expect to be loved.

It is about if James did worse, bc obviously Kobe can go rape a girl, and he gets less shyt than James does for changing teams. And what do you mean by, "doing whatever he wants?" What did he do? Change teams and have a stupid press conference for it? Big f'in deal.



People also don't like it when someone takes the easy way out. Theres also the issue that a lot of people have as to whether or not the Heat broke the rules in doing all of this. A lot of people will view it as cheapened and less legitimate. The Heat winning titles is kind of like the HR records of the steroid era.


So now the Heat winning titles is compared to steroids in baseball. Let me say this again, by the Heat signing players that were free agents, they are considered cheaters? Am I hearing this right? Hilarious!

Bad for the league? Maybe. But if the Broncos somehow would be able to fit in the cap: Peyton Manning, Adrian Peterson, and Andre Johnson, the Broncos would have an asterisk for winging superbowls? Got it...

Missouribronc
05-14-2011, 01:53 PM
I was talking about rooting for the Heat to lose and lose miserably since the beginning of the season. Analysts are suppose to be unbiased. And they certainly were not with the Heat. Despite who they picked, it was clear who they were rooting for.

I think you need to take off the Heat glasses.

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 01:58 PM
People are not ok with what he does because that is not what they want for Lebron. When Ricky Williams retired, the fans hated him b/c it was "how dare he quit on MY FOOTBALL team to go find himself." How dare he quits because he is not happy. They hated him for selfish reasons...bc it was not doing them (their team) any good, regardless of what the player wanted to do in THEIR life.

Thats not true. People who didnt have a horse in the race also dislike him now. But I like how everything you have ties back to the pespective of a Miami fan. Im sure the Ricky Williams example applies to everyone accross the board and theres nothing about it thats specific to Miami fans. This assumption is a kind of amusing.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2011, 02:01 PM
Fans have rooted against the Heat because James made a bunch of questionable decisions, highlighted by "the decision" where he completely embarrassed and humiliated every loyal Cleveland fan. He used their uncertainty and fear for his own self-promotion, and he didnt have the intelligence to realize what he was doing to them.

That's something that translated easily to NBA fans in general.

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 02:13 PM
It is about if James did worse, bc obviously Kobe can go rape a girl, and he gets less shyt than James does for changing teams. And what do you mean by, "doing whatever he wants?" What did he do? Change teams and have a stupid press conference for it? Big f'in deal.

Not really. Again, there are plenty of people who hold what happened against Kobe. The difference is, Kobe doesnt then tweet that he has thick skin and then turn around and make a commercial about makign everyone like him again. Kobe lived with the consequences where public opinion is concerned.

I shouldnt have to point out again that people arent required to like LeBron just because he hasnt raped someone.

"Doing whatever he wants" includes a number of things. I probably cant list all of them but some of them would include the big production that was "the decision". There's that these guys knew the whole time what they were going to do and James dragged out the drama and, in doing so, screwed over the Cavs. There's the comments that he's not bothered by what others say and that he's cool with his choice followed up with tweets saying he's keeping a list of names (of those badmouthing him) accompanied by the "What should I do?" commercial. If he's really not bothered by the criticism, the commercial and tweet about keeping a list shouldn't be necessary. Remember the victory rally before they had one anything and the prediction that they were going to win 8 titles? Plus a lot of people get turned off by his various "look at me" facial expressions and other gestures.

There are probaly more and they add up.





So now the Heat winning titles is compared to steroids in baseball. Let me say this again, by the Heat signing players that were free agents, they are considered cheaters? Am I hearing this right? Hilarious!

Yes, it kind of is like that. It lacks authenticity.

The behind the scenes dealing that Riley was doing lacks legitimacy. Its called tampering and its against the rules.

Bad for the league? Maybe. But if the Broncos somehow would be able to fit in the cap: Peyton Manning, Adrian Peterson, and Andre Johnson, the Broncos would have an asterisk for winging superbowls? Got it...

Its not the same. Basketball players have a bigger impact typically because there are only 5 players on a team and they play both ways.

OrangeCrush2724
05-14-2011, 02:23 PM
Yes, it kind of is like that. It lacks authenticity.

The behind the scenes dealing that Riley was doing lacks legitimacy. Its called tampering and its against the rules.




You are not really that naive to think teams don't do that, are you? How many times do we say, "I hope Al Wilson talks to so and so at the pro-bowl to get him in Denver." EVERY team does it. How do you suppose the signing of free agents on the 1st official day of free agency?

I think Wade did more to get the guys in Miami than anyone else.

TonyR
05-14-2011, 02:49 PM
The losers that spent a lot of time hating LeBron hate him because he's so good. He's loaded with ungodly talent and he doesn't play for their team. And he made a bad choice to make a spectacle of "The Decision". What's funny is that if/when he wins the title that haters that use the "he's never won anything" and/or "he's a choker" arguments will hate him even more instead of respecting his talent. He can't win either way.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2011, 04:31 PM
The losers that spent a lot of time hating LeBron hate him because he's so good. He's loaded with ungodly talent and he doesn't play for their team. And he made a bad choice to make a spectacle of "The Decision". What's funny is that if/when he wins the title that haters that use the "he's never won anything" and/or "he's a choker" arguments will hate him even more instead of respecting his talent. He can't win either way.

I liked James before he bolted Cleveland like that. I thought that it was one of the most self-aggrandizing, pathetically stupid things that I had ever seen in sports. Not even Deion Sanders would have pulled a bush-league move on his own fans like that. He allowed himself to be put in that situation by a bunch of money hungry promotors and handlers like that douche "Worldwide Wes". If youre hanging out with a douche with the name "Worldwide Wes" and allowing him in on your decision making, you are an abject moron.

He instantly went from a player that I was interested in seeing succeed, to one that it would be fun to watch beat out by other more deserving players who are loyal to their fanbases.

James made the bed he's sleeping in.

Missouribronc
05-14-2011, 04:38 PM
I liked James before he bolted Cleveland like that. I thought that it was one of the most self-aggrandizing, pathetically stupid things that I had ever seen in sports. Not even Deion Sanders would have pulled a bush-league move on his own fans like that. He allowed himself to be put in that situation by a bunch of money hungry promotors and handlers like that douche "Worldwide Wes". If youre hanging out with a douche with the name "Worldwide Wes" and allowing him in on your decision making, you are an abject moron.

He instantly went from a player that I was interested in seeing succeed, to one that it would be fun to watch beat out by other more deserving players who are loyal to their fanbases.

James made the bed he's sleeping in.

Drama-queen much?

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 05:00 PM
You are not really that naive to think teams don't do that, are you?

Its more naive to say that every team does it because the Miami Heat is your favorite team and they did it.

How many times do we say, "I hope Al Wilson talks to so and so at the pro-bowl to get him in Denver." EVERY team does it. How do you suppose the signing of free agents on the 1st official day of free agency?

Im not sure if youre aware of this but its pretty likely that Pat Riley himself was involved with the tampering.

I think Wade did more to get the guys in Miami than anyone else.

At least you admit that his visits to Chicago last summer were a farce. Because Dwyane has insisted that there was legitimate interest, presumably because he feels like he has to say this to cover his tracks. He thinks if he pretends that there was legitimate interest in going to Chicago last summer, it can provide cover for the fact that it was already pre-arranged. Damn Bosh and his tongue-slips!

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 05:07 PM
The losers that spent a lot of time hating LeBron hate him because he's so good. He's loaded with ungodly talent and he doesn't play for their team.

What makes this not close to accurate is the fact that a lot people liked him before the decision even when all of that was true.

And he made a bad choice to make a spectacle of "The Decision". What's funny is that if/when he wins the title that haters that use the "he's never won anything" and/or "he's a choker" arguments will hate him even more instead of respecting his talent. He can't win either way.

First of all, you're oversimplifying why he's dislilked. Secondly, all of this is a problem of his own making. People arent obligated to love him. If he cant win, its his own fault.

maven
05-14-2011, 05:12 PM
People also don't like it when someone takes the easy way out. Theres also the issue that a lot of people have as to whether or not the Heat broke the rules in doing all of this. A lot of people will view it as cheapened and less legitimate. The Heat winning titles is kind of like the HR records of the steroid era.

What the **** is wrong with you?

Hilarious!

This thread is delivering.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2011, 06:18 PM
Drama-queen much?

Why dont you tell us again how free throw % is factored in to field goal %.

OrangeCrush2724
05-14-2011, 06:23 PM
What the **** is wrong with you?

Hilarious!

This thread is delivering.

Don't you know that by signing free agents you are actually cheating? ;D

gunns
05-14-2011, 07:20 PM
He would say that he's making mental notes of who's bad mouthing him, and then at other times, he has claimed the contrary. Also, did you not see the Nike commercial where he asked "what should I do"?

Again, no one is saying it isnt his life but thats doesnt mean that people have to be OK with what he does. You can say, since it's his life, he owes the public nothing. But that cuts both ways. He's owed nothing by the public.

Also understand that Im speaking in general terms and addressing what is a lot of sentiment out there. But people have their own reasons and its up to them to be specific about why they hate them (if they want to). They don't owe you or LeBron a reason for hating him (if they do hate him). So, the fact that Im not speaking more specifically has to do with me addressing macro level sentiment. You shouldnt be demanding micro level answers with that in mind.

I didn't say people have to like him. And as far as him "making notes of who's bad mouthing him" does that mean he's writing down people in the publics name? Laughable. The same goes for his commercial, I didn't take it that way at all. Sounds like matter of believing what you want to believe and excuses to hate him all the more and personally I don't believe many could give a substantial reason for it anyway because they'd see how inane it is. I don't believe he or any other athlete does what they do to get the publics approval.

There have been a lot of players that have left teams. I don't remember seeing pages of hate for them. I don't expect any answers for why people hate him. Some say they hate him for leaving Cleveland and not being loyal, as stated. Some say they hate him for going with two other hot players to Miami and "thinking" that would help him win". Some hate him for the "announcement". As I said, sounds like an excuse to voice hate for him. Seems a bit over the top and immature to me. I often wonder what the subconcious real reasons are but it doesn't keep me up at night or ponder it for more than a minute when I read these posts or get emails from Laker fans who were suddenly Celtic fans. Hate him all you want. I'll just keep laughing and shaking my head.

gunns
05-14-2011, 07:30 PM
What makes this not close to accurate is the fact that a lot people liked him before the decision even when all of that was true.



First of all, you're oversimplifying why he's dislilked. Secondly, all of this is a problem of his own making. People arent obligated to love him. If he cant win, its his own fault.

LOL I don't remember hearing much about people disliking him before all of this. Yes, he got slammed for the playoffs just before he left but nothing more than that.

He's oversimplifying? Maybe because no one can give any other reason for disliking him. This is not a problem of his own making. NO ONE can MAKE someone like or dislike them. People choose to do those things. Even if he can win, he still won't be given that credit, now will he.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2011, 07:43 PM
I didn't say people have to like him. And as far as him "making notes of who's bad mouthing him" does that mean he's writing down people in the publics name? Laughable. The same goes for his commercial, I didn't take it that way at all. Sounds like matter of believing what you want to believe and excuses to hate him all the more and personally I don't believe many could give a substantial reason for it anyway because they'd see how inane it is. I don't believe he or any other athlete does what they do to get the publics approval.

There have been a lot of players that have left teams. I don't remember seeing pages of hate for them. I don't expect any answers for why people hate him. Some say they hate him for leaving Cleveland and not being loyal, as stated. Some say they hate him for going with two other hot players to Miami and "thinking" that would help him win". Some hate him for the "announcement". As I said, sounds like an excuse to voice hate for him. Seems a bit over the top and immature to me. I often wonder what the subconcious real reasons are but it doesn't keep me up at night or ponder it for more than a minute when I read these posts or get emails from Laker fans who were suddenly Celtic fans. Hate him all you want. I'll just keep laughing and shaking my head.

You don't have to look very far to find reasonable, sensible, common sense reasons to pull for whoever is playing against LeBron James.

TonyR
05-14-2011, 08:22 PM
Didn't Kevin Garnett do something similar in leaving Minnesota for the Celtics? To play with Pierce and Allen? No, he didn't do a ridiculous show on ESPN to make an announcement. It's not like good players have never left their original teams. Shaq left Orlando for the Lakers and everybody likes him. People don't seem to hate Carmelo for pulling something similar leaving Denver. It really seems to be mostly about the way LeBron left rather than the fact that he left. Eventually people need to move let it go. He wanted to go play in Miami with Wade. He's a immature guy who's had everyone telling him how great he is since he was a kid. Clearly he believed it. His more recent comments suggest that perhaps he's learned a little bit.

TDmvp
05-14-2011, 08:31 PM
Didn't Kevin Garnett do something similar in leaving Minnesota for the Celtics? To play with Pierce and Allen? No, he didn't do a ridiculous show on ESPN to make an announcement. It's not like good players have never left their original teams. Shaq left Orlando for the Lakers and everybody likes him.

That was my biggest issue with the whole thing , the How ... well that and the fact he/most people act like dude is MJ or something.


Hell anyone who thought during that year leading up to him leaving that he was staying was insane... There was no way he was staying with that crap roster as cap hit as Clev. was.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2011, 08:43 PM
Didn't Kevin Garnett do something similar in leaving Minnesota for the Celtics? To play with Pierce and Allen?

No.

Garnett was a trooper in Minnesota and the fans there generally wished Garnett well when he was traded for rebuilding pieces.

LeBron James famously quit on his team while getting eliminated by Boston, and then left Cleveland abruptly without even discussing sign and trade options with Cleveland to give them something to hope in in return.

No, he didn't do a ridiculous show on ESPN to make an announcement. It's not like good players have never left their original teams. Shaq left Orlando for the Lakers and everybody likes him.

Not Orlando fans. Even Shaq wasnt douchetastic enough to hold a prime time television show to rub the salt in the wound and embarrass Orlando fans.

People don't seem to hate Carmelo for pulling something similar leaving Denver.

Thats not true either. You'll find many Denver fans who dislike Anthony now.

It really seems to be mostly about the way LeBron left rather than the fact that he left. Eventually people need to move let it go. He wanted to go play in Miami with Wade. He's a immature guy who's had everyone telling him how great he is since he was a kid. Clearly he believed it. His more recent comments suggest that perhaps he's learned a little bit.

Why do people need to "move on"? People dont need to "move on" at all. James is now a sports villain. Like Barry Bonds or Bill Romanowski, but in a way that insults the sensibilities of the average fan on a level that leaves a serious distaste for the guy.

He's a villain now. Maybe you should just accept that and move on yourself?

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2011, 08:47 PM
That was my biggest issue with the whole thing , the How ... well that and the fact he/most people act like dude is MJ or something.


Hell anyone who thought during that year leading up to him leaving that he was staying was insane... There was no way he was staying with that crap roster as cap hit as Clev. was.

No, but he could have done a sign-and-trade to leave Cleveland fans with something in his wake. Most stars do that out of respect for the management and the fans of their former team. Heck, Anthony even did it.

TDmvp
05-14-2011, 08:53 PM
Why do people need to "move on"? People dont need to "move on" at all.


It would been like MJ leaving the Bulls in the early 90's to go play with the Lakers because he couldn't get through the Pistons.


I would have called him a pussy Hilarious! Like I do Lebron now.

I actually heard some moron say this Heat team would beat those Bulls teams cause their 2 stars are better , and right after I stopped laughing I called him a moron.

I'm starting to think people don't remember or some of them was so young they don't understand how insane Jordon was , AND I'm a MJ hater cause I was a Pacers fan heheh...

No sports star ever has made me literally scared like MJ did when my team was playing them and winning cause you just knew it was coming and no one on your team could stop him.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2011, 09:12 PM
It would been like MJ leaving the Bulls in the early 90's to go play with the Lakers because he couldn't get through the Pistons.


I would have called him a p***Y Hilarious! Like I do Lebron now.

I actually heard some moron say this Heat team would beat those Bulls teams cause their 2 stars are better , and right after I stopped laughing I called him a moron.

I'm starting to think people don't remember or some of them was so young they don't understand how insane Jordon was , AND I'm a MJ hater cause I was a Pacers fan heheh...

No sports star ever has made me literally scared like MJ did when my team was playing them and winning cause you just knew it was coming and no one on your team could stop him.

Jordan had the strongest will power of anyone I have ever seen in team sports.

He didnt come into the NBA with a jump shot. He willed himself to having a good one. He didnt come into the NBA one of the best defensive players in the history of the league. He willed himself into being a shut-down guard.

He was unstopppable in large part because he was so focused and undeterred that he wouldnt accept losing.

I dont think we'll ever see a player like that again. He basically ended the era of the tough minded superstar warrior and ushered in a new world of pampered crybabies who cant face competition on their own. Jordan probably laughs at LeBron.

gunns
05-14-2011, 10:03 PM
You don't have to look very far to find reasonable, sensible, common sense reasons to pull for whoever is playing against LeBron James.

Really? Where?

This is what I love, these generic posts that give no info.

Missouribronc
05-14-2011, 10:07 PM
Really? Where?

This is what I love, these generic posts that give no info.

Pre-determined hate of the best player in the league.

Now, he has a "justifiable" reason. "OMG! Look what a doosh that guy is! OMG! I hate him4ever!"

It's just drama queen being drama queen. No worries.

TDmvp
05-14-2011, 10:12 PM
Jordan had the strongest will power of anyone I have ever seen in team sports.

He didnt come into the NBA with a jump shot. He willed himself to having a good one. He didnt come into the NBA one of the best defensive players in the history of the league. He willed himself into being a shut-down guard.

He was unstopppable in large part because he was so focused and undeterred that he wouldnt accept losing.

I dont think we'll ever see a player like that again. He basically ended the era of the tough minded superstar warrior and ushered in a new world of pampered crybabies who cant face competition on their own. Jordan probably laughs at LeBron.



Totally... Dude had like no jumper when he was young and by the end of his career it was the unstoppable and scary . Back them down a little turn and jab step to create a little space and the defender had to honor it and fade away ... Basically his jumper was unstoppable at the end of his career.

TDmvp
05-14-2011, 10:14 PM
Really? Where?

This is what I love, these generic posts that give no info.

I think he ment it was obvious ...

Missouribronc
05-14-2011, 10:18 PM
Totally... Dude had like no jumper when he was young and by the end of his career it was the unstoppable and scary . Back them down a little turn and jab step to create a little space and the defender had to honor it and fade away ... Basically his jumper was unstoppable at the end of his career.

People tend to romanticize stars, and then hyperbolize their memories. Jordan is clearly one of those for both you and drama llama. He was great, but good lord, you act as if no player since has ever improved their jump shot, or as if any other player had a great jab step (Kobe)...

And it's all to justify hatred of a one of the greatest players to ever play.

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 10:29 PM
LOL I don't remember hearing much about people disliking him before all of this. Yes, he got slammed for the playoffs just before he left but nothing more than that.

He's oversimplifying? Maybe because no one can give any other reason for disliking him. This is not a problem of his own making. NO ONE can MAKE someone like or dislike them. People choose to do those things. Even if he can win, he still won't be given that credit, now will he.

I said a lot of people liked him before last summer. With that in mind, if the public goes from liking you for the most part to disliking you, then you probably did something to make that happen. Its kind of hard to make excuses for that person with a straight face and blame millions of people.

TDmvp
05-14-2011, 10:33 PM
People tend to romanticize stars, and then hyperbolize their memories. Jordan is clearly one of those for both you and drama llama. He was great, but good lord, you act as if no player since has ever improved their jump shot, or as if any other player had a great jab step (Kobe)...

And it's all to justify hatred of a one of the greatest players to ever play.


If you would read back you will see I hate MJ so romanticizing him from me is laughable... Just stating fact about him , nothing more.

And I said nothing trying to justify anything least of being hatred because I don't hate Lebron and don't blame him for leaving as I also said in this thread.

I do think he is kinda a punk , and his family is a bunch of morons but that's my opinion but I don't hate any sports star... I'll save my hate for something worth while.

Maybe know what someone said before blindly using blanket statements because I aint trying to justify anything , just stating a opinion.


But anyone who thinks Lebron is on the same level as Jordan is F-ing lost.
Sure Lebron might be the most god giving gifted basketball player of all time but MJ was wired different and could will it.
No one in my life time took over games like MJ... no one ... period...
How Lebron did the Pistons a few years back , like 20 points in a row down the stretch to put away a team was a weekly thing with MJ.

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 10:44 PM
Regarding Jordan, he didnt have a great jumper his first couple of years in the league, yet he shot around 50% during that time. How did this happen? It's because he was probably the best player in history of the league at attacking the basket. In the lane, he had/has no equal. He could get to the basket because he was a better athlete than a lot of guys he's now compared to. And this was during an era of hanchecking.

And when the Pistons came along with their thuggish style of play (that the league allowed,which redefined what a foul was), Jordan still attacked the basket when there was an opening knowing that he was going to get annihilated. He would then get up and go shoot his free throws. But Jordan never backed down even when staring in the face of brutish thuggery. If people want to learn something meaningful about Jordan other than flashy dunks, ring counts, or gatorade commercials, there's a lot there to refer back to. And then theres also the fact that, as amazing as he was during the regular season, he was that much more amazing when it mattered most. But on top of being the best ever, he never backed down against the Pistons and the Knicks.

maven
05-14-2011, 11:20 PM
No, but he could have done a sign-and-trade to leave Cleveland fans with something in his wake. Most stars do that out of respect for the management and the fans of their former team. Heck, Anthony even did it.

That's interesting... Because there was a sign and trade to Miami.

ROFL!

Kaylore
05-14-2011, 11:22 PM
Anthony did a sign and trade, but not out of respect. It was because he knew if he approached the Knicks in free agenct 1.) The new CBA would likely reduce his pay and 2.) The Knicks could low-ball him knowing he wanted to play there no matter what. So let's not pretend Carmelo was merciful.

maven
05-14-2011, 11:24 PM
No one in my life time took over games like MJ... no one ... period...


Cool story bro.

maven
05-14-2011, 11:31 PM
Hell anyone who thought during that year leading up to him leaving that he was staying was insane... There was no way he was staying with that crap roster as cap hit as Clev. was.

ROFL!

People who follow basketball knew he wouldn't return to Cleveland and sign an extension. Thank you for pointing out what is forgotten.

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 11:33 PM
That's interesting... Because there was a sign and trade to Miami.

ROFL!

Its not as simple as that. Anthony was upfront with Denver about him wanting to play in NY, which allowed Denver to avoid being LeBroned. Cleveland was never going to get what Denver got because the S&T was too late in the process. If LeBron would have told the Cavs that he wasnt coming back, they could have received a ton in return for LeBron. But LeBron wasn't forthright, especially since they all knew this was going to happen as far back as the Olympics in 08.

DHallblows
05-14-2011, 11:36 PM
Are there seriously idiots trying to downplay Michael Jordan in this thread? ROFL!

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 11:38 PM
ROFL!

People who follow basketball knew he wouldn't return to Cleveland and sign an extension. Thank you for pointing out what is forgotten.

Thats not true. People like Broussard and Bucher spoke in terms of him going back to Cleveland and that it was a viable option for him.

A lot of people speculated that if he was going back to Cleveland, he would have signed the extension during the season. But the rebuttal to this was that LeBron was going to do his due diligence. Little did anyone know the degree to which it had already been mapped out by Riley, Wade and Co.

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2011, 11:39 PM
Are there seriously idiots trying to downplay Michael Jordan in this thread? ROFL!

Yeah, but keep in mind that Maven has been a basketball fan since 2006.

maven
05-14-2011, 11:48 PM
Thats not true. People like Broussard and Bucher spoke in terms of him going back to Cleveland and that it was a viable option for him.

A lot of people speculated that if he was going back to Cleveland, he would have signed the extension during the season. But the rebuttal to this was that LeBron was going to do his due diligence. Little did anyone know the degree to which it had already been mapped out by Riley, Wade and Co.

Conspiracy theory? Don't stop postin...

ROFL!

Use your brain my man. He could've moved to Chicago, NY, NJ, Miami, heck even the Clippers. Go look at that team he played for. Come back to me if you, YOU, honestly believe he was going back to Cleveland.

maven
05-14-2011, 11:53 PM
Its not as simple as that. Anthony was upfront with Denver about him wanting to play in NY, which allowed Denver to avoid being LeBroned. Cleveland was never going to get what Denver got because the S&T was too late in the process. If LeBron would have told the Cavs that he wasnt coming back, they could have received a ton in return for LeBron. But LeBron wasn't forthright, especially since they all knew this was going to happen as far back as the Olympics in 08.

My post responded to misinformation.

LeBron was a free agent.

Anthony was traded before the trade deadline.

And there you go again...

maven
05-14-2011, 11:54 PM
Yeah, but keep in mind that Maven has been a basketball fan since 2006.

I haven't said one word about Jordan.

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 12:07 AM
These weak-minded guys like LeBron James, Wade, Bosh, Stoudemire, Anthony, Chris Paul, and Dwight Howard would have had their lunch monies taken away nightly by the likes of Jordan, Bird, Magic Johnson, Dr. J, etc.

That era of player played like their livelihood depended on it. These modern guys play like they have somewhere to be afterward.

maven
05-15-2011, 12:09 AM
These weak-minded guys like LeBron James, Wade, Bosh, Stoudemire, Anthony, Chris Paul, and Dwight Howard would have had their lunch monies taken away nightly by the likes of Jordan, Bird, Magic Johnson, Dr. J, etc.

That era of player played like their livelihood depended on it. These modern guys play like they have somewhere to be afterward.

So what do you think Cleveland is going to do with the draft picks they received from Miami?

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 12:10 AM
So what do you think Cleveland is going to do with the draft picks they received from Miami?

Boy, they scored some great ones didnt they?

OrangeSe7en
05-15-2011, 12:14 AM
My post responded to misinformation.

LeBron was a free agent.
Anthony was traded before the trade deadline.

And there you go again...

Considering the likelihood that this was all pre-arranged, thats debateable.

maven
05-15-2011, 12:15 AM
Boy, they scored some great ones didnt they?

You never know, right? Maybe they will select the next Jordan with one of Miami's picks.

ROFL!

maven
05-15-2011, 12:17 AM
Considering the likelihood that this was all pre-arranged, thats debateable.

So we are now debating whether LeBron was a free agent?

ROFL!

OrangeSe7en
05-15-2011, 12:19 AM
Conspiracy theory? Don't stop postin...

ROFL!

Use your brain my man. He could've moved to Chicago, NY, NJ, Miami, heck even the Clippers. Go look at that team he played for. Come back to me if you, YOU, honestly believe he was going back to Cleveland.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/inside_the_decision_miamis_cou.html

Here is an excerpt:

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- During a rally for Miami Heat fans Friday night, Chris Bosh said he had been talking with new teammates LeBron James and Dwyane Wade about the moment for months.

It was a slip, which some, including Bosh himself, caught. The premise that the trio had been talking about teaming up for months hinted there was a plan in place. That potentially would be against rules, and could raise concerns from the league since Bosh and James were playing for teams battling for the playoffs in Toronto and Cleveland.

Bosh quickly revised the statement and said they had been talking about it for "days." But it appears James, Bosh and Wade had been discussing this for years.

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 12:21 AM
You never know, right? Maybe they will select the next Jordan with one of Miami's picks.

More likely the next Tariq Abdul Wahad...if they're lucky, considering that the picks aren't worth the price of the contracts that will come with them.

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 12:23 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/inside_the_decision_miamis_cou.html

Here is an excerpt:

Yeah, that's all common knowledge.

Why Heat fan (the one or two in existence) can't just accept it and get on with it is the real question here.

Why are they so defensive?

maven
05-15-2011, 12:25 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/inside_the_decision_miamis_cou.html

Here is an excerpt:

ROFL!

maven
05-15-2011, 12:27 AM
More likely the next Tariq Abdul Wahad...if they're lucky, considering that the picks aren't worth the price of the contracts that will come with them.

Plenty of players, that have had great success, weren't drafted #1 or #2 overall.

Like I said, Cleveland could hit big with the draft picks.

ROFL!

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 01:59 AM
Plenty of players, that have had great success, weren't drafted #1 or #2 overall.

Like I said, Cleveland could hit big with the draft picks.

LOL

Right.

It was totally acceptable compensation for Cleveland's GM and Cleveland fans.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-15-2011, 05:02 AM
Maven-

Why so defensive?

U MAD?

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-15-2011, 05:04 AM
Maven-

Here's one that's really going to blow your mind - why didn't LeBron bring any of the other free agents TO Cleveland to play with him there? It could have very easily been done.

OrangeSe7en
05-15-2011, 09:49 AM
Well, I'm going to be interested in seeing the outcome of the Memphis-OKC game. Even though home teams win 80% of game 7s, it seems like this one can be the exception since Memphis tends to score more often with higher % shots. At the same time, I have a feeling Durant is going to be on fire after having a bad game last time out.

I also think that OKC has more star power in the form of Durant and Westbrook. So, Im kind of starting to wonder if there might be some controversy where the officiating is concerned today. Then again, Stern could be saving that card to bail out the Big 3 in the later game.

oubronco
05-15-2011, 01:01 PM
What's with letting Memphis get away with throwing all these elbows this is B S

SonOfLe-loLang
05-15-2011, 01:40 PM
Maven-

Here's one that's really going to blow your mind - why didn't LeBron bring any of the other free agents TO Cleveland to play with him there? It could have very easily been done.

cap issues

gunns
05-15-2011, 02:47 PM
I think he ment it was obvious ...

Well I think with my previous points I had made it obvious it wasn't obvious.

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- During a rally for Miami Heat fans Friday night, Chris Bosh said he had been talking with new teammates LeBron James and Dwyane Wade about the moment for months.

It was a slip, which some, including Bosh himself, caught. The premise that the trio had been talking about teaming up for months hinted there was a plan in place. That potentially would be against rules, and could raise concerns from the league since Bosh and James were playing for teams battling for the playoffs in Toronto and Cleveland.

Bosh quickly revised the statement and said they had been talking about it for "days." But it appears James, Bosh and Wade had been discussing this for years.


Oh, so you dislike Bosh and LeBron. Is it anyone who does something that appears to you to be illegal in the NBA? You must hate the whole league. And James didn't owe Cleveland ANYTHING. If that's the case there are a lot of athletes you must hate.

Inkana7
05-15-2011, 02:58 PM
Why, is it, that LeBron didn't owe the city that invested millions and millions of dollars and all of their respect and admiration, anything?

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 02:59 PM
Well I think with my previous points I had made it obvious it wasn't obvious.



Oh, so you dislike Bosh and LeBron. Is it anyone who does something that appears to you to be illegal in the NBA? You must hate the whole league. And James didn't owe Cleveland ANYTHING. If that's the case there are a lot of athletes you must hate.

If you're having trouble understanding why people root against James, then you're missing alot of what sports are about.

gunns
05-15-2011, 03:01 PM
Why, is it, that LeBron didn't owe the city that invested millions and millions of dollars and all of their respect and admiration, anything?

How long did he play there?

oubronco
05-15-2011, 03:02 PM
Bring on the Mavs

Go Thunder!!!

Inkana7
05-15-2011, 03:03 PM
How long did he play there?

7 years.

gunns
05-15-2011, 03:14 PM
If you're having trouble understanding why people root against James, then you're missing alot of what sports are about.

Sorry, I gave up on you for answers long ago and knew not to expect it from you in the first place. As in the WPR forum your answers are generic without substance and are used in attempts to belittle people or in anger. I don't really care that people hate James, I just don't understand it. And still don't because what's been stated could apply to mulitple athletes but I've never seen the pages of hate for others.

Inkana7
05-15-2011, 03:21 PM
Sorry, I gave up on you for answers long ago and knew not to expect it from you in the first place. As in the WPR forum your answers are generic without substance and are used in attempts to belittle people or in anger. I don't really care that people hate James, I just don't understand it. And still don't because what's been stated could apply to mulitple athletes but I've never seen the pages of hate for others.

Yeah, it's really illogical. It's as if James made his departure from Cleveland a televised event on ESPN, magnifying it many times more than any other athlete's move has been.

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 03:41 PM
Sorry, I gave up on you for answers long ago and knew not to expect it from you in the first place. As in the WPR forum your answers are generic without substance and are used in attempts to belittle people or in anger. I don't really care that people hate James, I just don't understand it. And still don't because what's been stated could apply to mulitple athletes but I've never seen the pages of hate for others.

You arent looking for answers. You're trying to make some petty, meaningless contrarianist statement that people are reasonless in their dislike for James, which is a completely ignorant opinion to have. I doubt that you actually hold that position because its just plain ridiculous.

"Why do people dislike LeBron James?"

Seriously? :rofl:

You need a road map to figure that one out?

This guy might be able to give you a hand:
http://jimcofer.com/personal/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/captain-obvious.jpg

Missouribronc
05-15-2011, 04:13 PM
Sorry, I gave up on you for answers long ago and knew not to expect it from you in the first place. As in the WPR forum your answers are generic without substance and are used in attempts to belittle people or in anger. I don't really care that people hate James, I just don't understand it. And still don't because what's been stated could apply to mulitple athletes but I've never seen the pages of hate for others.

I never have understood the hate people generate for athletes. I just don't understand it.

I'll parallel it to some things I've said about Cutler, but when I sit back and think about it, I don't hate Cutler. I just hate that things went wrong. If I had the chance to meet the guy, I'd buy him a beer and give him **** about his knee (now, if he got all arrogant and uppity, then I'd call him a douche).

But, I just don't get the vitriol spewed by people like drama llama over something so irrelevant, especially when its not my team.

oubronco
05-15-2011, 04:15 PM
Go Thunder!!!

Missouribronc
05-15-2011, 04:20 PM
Go Thunder!!!

Congrats on the win. I'm rooting for KD and Rose.

gunns
05-15-2011, 04:23 PM
Yeah, it's really illogical. It's as if James made his departure from Cleveland a televised event on ESPN, magnifying it many times more than any other athlete's move has been.

I've noted in several of my posts that this was over the top. Is this the reason?

gunns
05-15-2011, 04:25 PM
You arent looking for answers. You're trying to make some petty, meaningless contrarianist statement that people are reasonless in their dislike for James, which is a completely ignorant opinion to have. I doubt that you actually hold that position because its just plain ridiculous.

"Why do people dislike LeBron James?"

Seriously? :rofl:

You need a road map to figure that one out?

This guy might be able to give you a hand:
http://jimcofer.com/personal/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/captain-obvious.jpg

LOL Once again you can't answer or give at least your reason. Because you dislike him it's obvious? Ok

maven
05-15-2011, 05:07 PM
Two dunks. Nice start!

serious hops
05-15-2011, 05:25 PM
Reggie Miller on the way Joakim Noah shoots his freethrows:

"That's one of the worst shots I've seen in my life."


LOL

Boobs McGee
05-15-2011, 07:26 PM
Hahaha this is EXCELLENT! **** YOU HEAT!!! LET'S GO BULLS! Rose is absolutely incredible, and their D has been suffocating. Sweet, SWEET game.

Missouribronc
05-15-2011, 07:32 PM
I guess I should have skipped the baseball tonight. Damn, the Bulls made a statement.

Now watch the Heat take it in 5.

OrangeSe7en
05-15-2011, 07:39 PM
Well, that was satisfying. It was only one game though and the Bulls cant always count on shooting like that from 3.


BTW, for those who are interested, here are some stats that tell you something about the Bulls defense against the Heat (at least to this point). In the 4 games theyve played this year, the Heat have scored 43, 36, 37, and tonight it was 34 points in the second half. So basically, during the time of the game when you would think the big 3 are asserting themselves, its actually the Bulls defense that has taken over games in the second halves. Thats an average of 37.5 ppg in the second half by Miami against the Bulls.

In case you didn't know, we're not Boston.

SoCalBronco
05-15-2011, 07:52 PM
Where's maven?

Oh wait.

TDmvp
05-15-2011, 07:57 PM
Where's maven?

Oh wait.

He mad ...

(and that is one of the stupidest saying ever and I"m mocking those who use it by using it.)

OrangeSe7en
05-15-2011, 08:16 PM
BTW, I just looked at the box score again (I think I may frame it) and Miami actually shot .471 from the field and made all 15 free throws...and were still blitzed by 21 points.

Kid A
05-15-2011, 08:35 PM
BULLS. Taj mother****ing Gibson.

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 08:37 PM
When you've got Taj Gibson posterizing Dwyane Wade, you know its going to be a good night.

I expected Chicago to win, but dang...they squashed the Heat in the second half.

Gutless Drunk
05-15-2011, 09:00 PM
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<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xJhPRG4cTzk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Kid A
05-15-2011, 09:04 PM
"I have been to the mountaintop and back." hahahahaha. Wildly inappropriate but so great.

OrangeSe7en
05-15-2011, 09:05 PM
Maven has been posting in the NBA thread nonstop for 4 days and suddenly he's nowhere to be found. This is the kind of thing you'd expect from a Heat fan.

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 09:08 PM
Boy that second dunk is a dunk contest winner. Crazy stuff.

Ronnie Brewer also got in on the posterization action when he posterized Bosh from on the baseline.

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 09:09 PM
If Chicago continues dominating the boards like they did tonight, Miami might not last more than 5 games.

Miami's going to have to adjust.

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 09:12 PM
"I have been to the mountaintop and back." hahahahaha. Wildly inappropriate but so great.

That's one of those overused NBA locker room cliches that you hear bandied about after a player soars for a dunk.

OrangeSe7en
05-15-2011, 09:15 PM
If Chicago continues dominating the boards like they did tonight, Miami might not last more than 5 games.

Miami's going to have to adjust.

Well, Chicago's not going away. Chicago is a great rebounding team. Theyve been one of the top rebounding teams for the past few years and they just got deeper at PF and C this year.

This year, Chicago was a top 2 rebounding team and a top 3 team at not allowing opposing teams rebounds. When people have said that the Bulls are strong where Miami's weak, this is what they were talking about.

One of Miami's big problems is the mobility of both Noah and Asik. Even if Miami boxes out, the mobility really comes into play in long rebounds in addition to putbacks.

And the thing is, Rose himself generates a lot of putbacks because guys rotate over to face up with hims leaving Noah or Boozer at the rim for easy putbacks. Rose didnt even drive that much tonight. But don't worry, that day is coming.

epicSocialism4tw
05-15-2011, 09:28 PM
Well, Chicago's not going away. Chicago is a great rebounding team. Theyve been one of the top rebounding teams for the past few years and they just got deeper at PF and C this year.

This year, Chicago was a top 2 rebounding team and a top 3 team at not allowing opposing teams rebounds. When people have said that the Bulls are strong where Miami's weak, this is what they were talking about.

Sure. That's one of the reasons why I thought that Chicago were the favorites in this series. I was interested to see how that match-up played itself out today. Chicago has a decided advantage on the boards because they have several bigs who put in work in the post. I mentioned in an earlier post that Noah would be a factor in this series. One of the reasons why is because he can both lend help defense to deter shots and he is a ferocious energy player and rebounder under the basket. Boozer, Gibson, and the Turk will also make an impact. There's a lot of energy and strength to rotate in there.


And the thing is, Rose himself generates a lot of putbacks because guys rotate over to face up with hims leaving Noah or Boozer at the rim for easy putbacks. Rose didnt even drive that much tonight. But don't worry, that day is coming.

Sure. Thats a problem. Rose is the best player in this series in penetrating the defense. The only players to rotate over in this series? Bosh and Anthony. That's not good news for Miami. That leaves the Bulls' bigs in a position to really punish them if Rose misses.

Bronco Vixen
05-15-2011, 09:42 PM
Chicago's bench really put a dagger in the heat tonight. To have absolutely no let up in D & offensive boards during that key stretch with rose, boozer, & Noah on the bench must have been completely demoralizing for miami. They literally had zero time take a breath and get comfortable out there.

Gibson is a beast. That second dunk was absolutely phenomenal.

OrangeSe7en
05-15-2011, 10:01 PM
Chicago's bench really put a dagger in the heat tonight. To have absolutely no let up in D & offensive boards during that key stretch with rose, boozer, & Noah on the bench must have been completely demoralizing for miami. They literally had zero time take a breath and get comfortable out there.

Gibson is a beast. That second dunk was absolutely phenomenal.

Well dont forget game 5 against Atlanta. Towards the end of the 3rd qtr, when Atlanta had all the momentum, Thibs played Rose, Brewer, Deng, Taj, and Asik the rest of the quarter to wrestle away control of the game. The season was on the line and Thibs went to Brewer, Taj, and Asik off the bench to close out a game.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-16-2011, 05:10 AM
Maven?

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-16-2011, 12:12 PM
Um...

M-m-m-Maven?

24champ
05-16-2011, 01:46 PM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4454/24160710150249233041072.jpg

bombay
05-16-2011, 01:53 PM
LA has nothing to trade, and Howard has already said he doesn't want to try to carry old man bryant. Funny how la 'fans' feel entitled, tho.

epicSocialism4tw
05-16-2011, 03:52 PM
Funny how la 'fans' feel entitled, tho.

Its funnier how they just bail on their players and start pushing for something else.

One day Gasol is the best player in the league, and the next day they're trying to trade him and whatever else they can scrape together for anything else they can get.

SonOfLe-loLang
05-16-2011, 04:06 PM
LA has nothing to trade, and Howard has already said he doesn't want to try to carry old man bryant. Funny how la 'fans' feel entitled, tho.

They can give Bynum and Odom maybe...if hes hellbent on leaving anyway, are they gonna get an offer better than that?

TDmvp
05-16-2011, 04:12 PM
Um...

M-m-m-Maven?

http://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2008/04/29/hiding.jpghttp://fiddledd.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/i-ar-hiding.jpg

vancejohnson82
05-16-2011, 04:28 PM
They can give Bynum and Odom maybe...if hes hellbent on leaving anyway, are they gonna get an offer better than that?

I could see them packaging a pick, Bynum and Shannon Brown/Odom

24champ
05-16-2011, 04:30 PM
Its funnier how they just bail on their players and start pushing for something else.

One day Gasol is the best player in the league, and the next day they're trying to trade him and whatever else they can scrape together for anything else they can get.

Didn't say Gasol was going anywhere, Kobe still backs Pau.


Bynum, not so much.

OrangeCrush2724
05-16-2011, 07:43 PM
They can give Bynum and Odom maybe...if hes hellbent on leaving anyway, are they gonna get an offer better than that?

I think they could get a better offer than that. Bynum doesn't hold too much weight right now, and was also overrated. Odom is just blah...

epicSocialism4tw
05-16-2011, 07:47 PM
I could see them packaging a pick, Bynum and Shannon Brown/Odom

I think they'd have to give up both Bynum and Gasol for Dwight Howard.

They'd have to take back some of Orlando's garbage contracts as well.

This deal works:

Dwight Howard
Gilbert Arenas

for

Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum
Shannon Brown
2012 #1 pick
2014 #1 pick

ZONA
05-17-2011, 02:47 AM
The Lakers are in a tough spot for sure. Even though they still have alot of good players, trying to create chemistry with a new coach, a new system while Kobe is still there is going to be a challenge. Obviously Kobe can't play a ton of minutes anymore and the miracle performances will become fewer and fewer over the next few years. But he's still a great player and with limited minutes, he can still be an awesome force. They've got to get rid of Artest and pick up a perimeter shooter. And obviously with Fisher and Blake their front court speed is not stellar nor is their passing. I think Fisher will retire and Blake is not a starter and Brown is not a true point guard. I think what the Lakers need is a point guard who thinks pass first and knows how to set up teammates. This will take alot of pressure off Kobe on that role. Hate to say it but they could use a Nash type of creator at point guard but doesn't feel he has to score alot. They have other guys who can do that and will want the ball. Not sure who's going to be available this offseason but I think that's where they need the help.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-17-2011, 04:57 AM
Now many PGs out there that are on that elite level. Maybe flip a guy for the rights of Kyrie Irving and pray?

Oh, and...Maven?

bombay
05-17-2011, 09:22 AM
They can give Bynum and Odom maybe...if hes hellbent on leaving anyway, are they gonna get an offer better than that?

Robin Lopez from NJ is a better center than Bynum. Odom is old, dead weight with a big contract. He'll show up occasionally, not often.

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 01:11 PM
Robin Lopez from NJ is a better center than Bynum. Odom is dead weight with a big contract. He'll show up occasionally, not often.

Not really and um...no.

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 03:08 PM
Barkley rips the Heat:

"As the season went on, the Heat were booed in opposing arenas as fans may have sensed an arrogance about a team that seemed to celebrate success even before the season began. Wade addressed the negative perception after a loss to the Bulls in March that extended Miami's losing streak to four games. Wade said: "The world is better now since the Heat is losing."
Barkley wasn't buying it.

"[They say] we don't like the Miami Heat. First of all, that's not true at all," Barkley said. "Those guys are actually a whiny bunch. They said a couple times this year, 'Well the world is happy the Miami Heat [is losing].' Please don't flatter yourself. C'mon man.

"We criticize [James] because of 'The Decision.' But nobody dislikes LeBron James. LeBron James is a good dude. But I love, 'The Miami Heat is losing, the world is happy.' First of all, nobody is thinking about the Miami Heat. You guys are good guys. You're the guys who came out and said, 'We're not going to win 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 championships.' We're like, 'Really.' They never take any personal responsibility to why people take shots at them.""

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6559842

Karenin
05-17-2011, 05:27 PM
maven totally pulled an angriestllama/epicsocialist/whatever. I can't wait until the Mavs lose and that ****** leaves as well.

OrangeSe7en
05-17-2011, 05:39 PM
Barkley rips the Heat:

"As the season went on, the Heat were booed in opposing arenas as fans may have sensed an arrogance about a team that seemed to celebrate success even before the season began. Wade addressed the negative perception after a loss to the Bulls in March that extended Miami's losing streak to four games. Wade said: "The world is better now since the Heat is losing."
Barkley wasn't buying it.

"[They say] we don't like the Miami Heat. First of all, that's not true at all," Barkley said. "Those guys are actually a whiny bunch. They said a couple times this year, 'Well the world is happy the Miami Heat [is losing].' Please don't flatter yourself. C'mon man.

"We criticize [James] because of 'The Decision.' But nobody dislikes LeBron James. LeBron James is a good dude. But I love, 'The Miami Heat is losing, the world is happy.' First of all, nobody is thinking about the Miami Heat. You guys are good guys. You're the guys who came out and said, 'We're not going to win 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 championships.' We're like, 'Really.' They never take any personal responsibility to why people take shots at them.""

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6559842

Bingo. They always are playing the victim card. They're like, "look at me, love me" but then when its not what they like, they blame it on others.

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 05:50 PM
Thunder @ Mavs tonight.

Mavs still playing on house money. It makes for a fun playoffs!

oubronco
05-17-2011, 07:30 PM
Go Thunder!!!

SoCalBronco
05-17-2011, 07:49 PM
Maven?

oubronco
05-17-2011, 07:50 PM
MAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OrangeSe7en
05-17-2011, 08:30 PM
The irony is, Im a Bulls fan and Maven said something to me about jumping on the Heat bandwagon. Here we are and Maven is nowhere to be found. He's probably put his Heat gear on Ebay and is out buying Bulls gear right now. Thats how heat fans are.

Either that, or he's going to resurface only if Miami wins.

Inkana7
05-17-2011, 08:43 PM
Dirk is 22-22.

Clearly the NBA has an anti-mavericks bias

Gutless Drunk
05-17-2011, 08:52 PM
This Nowitzki is magnificent

Kid A
05-17-2011, 09:05 PM
Got damn. Dirkowitz sees the window closing on title shots and is not ****ing around.

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 09:12 PM
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Boobs McGee
05-17-2011, 09:15 PM
Somewhere in America tonight, a boy named dramallama is defiling some defenseless little sock over and over

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 09:45 PM
Somewhere in America tonight, a boy named dramallama is defiling some defenseless little sock over and over

41

http://streetballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Dirk_Nowitzki_Conquers_Lakers.png

BroncoInferno
05-17-2011, 09:49 PM
So....will Dallas pull their inevitable choke job against Miami or Chicago? I'm putting my lot in with Chicago.

TDmvp
05-17-2011, 09:59 PM
Somewhere in America tonight, a boy named dramallama is defiling some defenseless little sock over and over

Since I'm always looking for a good idea to photoshop something I cautiously typed Llama sock into google image search and found these winners
Hilarious!

http://www.nose-n-toes.com/images/sox300.jpg
:)

Boobs McGee
05-17-2011, 10:09 PM
Hahahaaa that's EXCELLENT!

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 10:17 PM
Alright, Thunder fans.

I like your team, specifically Durant. He's one of the good guys of the NBA.

Here's the deal...if the Thunder keep single-covering Nowitzki, this is going to be a short series. That plays to Dallas' strenghts, and believe it or not, this was a poor game by Dallas. Dirk just wouldnt allow them to lose.

24champ
05-17-2011, 10:20 PM
So....will Dallas pull their inevitable choke job against Miami or Chicago? I'm putting my lot in with Chicago.

I don't even know if Dallas will get past the Thunder. No way Dirk goes to the line 18 times before the 4th quarter and getting bailed out by the refs all series.

Kaylore
05-17-2011, 10:23 PM
The Cavs got the first pick off the Clippers pick. That's funny. I wonder if the league threw the Cavs a bone for having a town so crappy your home boy wants to leave...

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 10:37 PM
I don't even know if Dallas will get past the Thunder. No way Dirk goes to the line 18 times before the 4th quarter and getting bailed out by the refs all series.

Aw...dont be so upset that Dallas swept your team and crumbled your fledgling dynasty to a pile of dust.

Those guys couldnt stop Dirk so they started resorting to fouls. If you listened to Scott Brooks and Durant after the game, they said as much.

If Odom, Artest couldn't do anything to stop Nowitzki, do you really think that Serge Ibaka, Nick Collison, Kendrick Perkins, Kevin Durant, or Thabo Sefalosha have a shot?

Its imperative for OKC to double and triple Nowitzki to make him pass the ball out. The only way they will win this series is by putting pressure on the Mavs' peripheral players to deliver.

This was one of the Mavs' poorer games of the playoffs. The ball was not flowing like it usually does and their defensive rotations were not crisp. I gather that's due to the Mavs' layoff, but this was the first time Dallas has allowed over 100 points in a game during the post season.

Dallas played poorly by their standards and won by 9.

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 10:41 PM
I don't even know if Dallas will get past the Thunder. No way Dirk goes to the line 18 times before the 4th quarter and getting bailed out by the refs all series.

http://troll.me/images/sailing-stone/they-see-me-rollin-they-hatin-thumb.jpg

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-17-2011, 10:55 PM
Question for the doubters - if Dirk hadn't shot that many FTs, would he still have shat on the Thunder by attempting more than 15 shots?

Yes.

24champ
05-17-2011, 11:02 PM
Aw...dont be so upset that Dallas swept your team and crumbled your fledgling dynasty to a pile of dust.


Least we have a few dynasties to speak of.


Those guys couldnt stop Dirk so they started resorting to fouls. If you listened to Scott Brooks and Durant after the game, they said as much.

If Odom, Artest couldn't do anything to stop Nowitzki, do you really think that Serge Ibaka, Nick Collison, Kendrick Perkins, Kevin Durant, or Thabo Sefalosha have a shot?

Its imperative for OKC to double and triple Nowitzki to make him pass the ball out. The only way they will win this series is by putting pressure on the Mavs' peripheral players to deliver.

This was one of the Mavs' poorer games of the playoffs. The ball was not flowing like it usually does and their defensive rotations were not crisp. I gather that's due to the Mavs' layoff, but this was the first time Dallas has allowed over 100 points in a game during the post season.

Dallas played poorly by their standards and won by 9.

As far as what the Thunder have said about the officiating, of course they won't have anything but nice things to say. Everyone knows Stern will fine the **** out of anyone that says a peep about the officiating. Just ask Phil Jackson.

It was pretty obvious the referees were controlling the game in this instance. I don't see that happening all series.

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 11:06 PM
Least we have a few dynasties to speak of.




As far as what the Thunder have said about the officiating, of course they won't have anything but nice things to say. Everyone knows Stern will fine the **** out of anyone that says a peep about the officiating. Just ask Phil Jackson.

It was pretty obvious the referees were controlling the game in this instance. I don't see that happening all series.

Do you know how many free throws the Thunder shot?

24champ
05-17-2011, 11:16 PM
Do you know how many free throws the Thunder shot?

Yeah, unlike looking at statistics. I actually watched the game.


The Thunder attacked the basket, Dirk did the usual dribble and pull up for a shot. Some of the calls were laughable. I mean hell, Shaq in the early 2000's got much worse treatment every time he touched the ball in the paint and even with hack-a-shaq, never once got 13 free throws in a quarter! Hilarious!

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 11:31 PM
Yeah, unlike looking at statistics. I actually watched the game.


The Thunder attacked the basket, Dirk did the usual dribble and pull up for a shot. Some of the calls were laughable. I mean hell, Shaq in the early 2000's got much worse treatment every time he touched the ball in the paint and even with hack-a-shaq, never once got 13 free throws in a quarter! Hilarious!

Hilarious!

Right.

The Thunder shot 43 free throws in this game. Dallas shot 36.

Nice try though. Thanks for playing.

Magic Johnson loved Dirk's dominant display, as he and everyone else on the post game show started talking about how Dirk is Bird's equal. You could almost hear Magic saying "I wish this guy was on the Lakers instead of that bunch of no account bums that he destroyed in 4 games."

24champ
05-17-2011, 11:42 PM
Hilarious!

Right.

The Thunder shot 43 free throws in this game. Dallas shot 36.


Dirk got his fouls on jump shots and fade aways. I don't see that being called all series. You have a manufactured storyline here of Dirk suddenly being drawn comparisons during the game to legends like Bird and being a Top 5 all time player. :giggle:

It's laughable, just goes to show that BSPN analysts do a good job overhyping the players. (See Lebrick)

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2011, 11:57 PM
Dirk got his fouls on jump shots and fade aways. I don't see that being called all series. You have a manufactured storyline here of Dirk suddenly being drawn comparisons during the game to legends like Bird and being a Top 5 all time player.

It's laughable, just goes to show that BSPN analysts do a good job overhyping the players. (See Lebrick)

Nowitzki had one of the greatest performances in playoff history last night, arguably the greatest individual performance in NBA playoff history. It's the most efficient 45+ point scoring game in the history of the NBA playoffs.

He averaged 3.2 points per shot. Thats about like pitching a perfect game in the American League Championship series, or throwing for 450 yards on 20 throws in the AFC title game.

"Dirk Nowitzki had a game for the ages on Tuesday: 48 points on 12-for-15 shooting from the floor and 24-for-24 from the line, which, as was widely reported, set an NBA playoff record for free throws made without a miss. Here's more on Nowitzki's stellar game:

He set an NBA playoff record for free throws made in a regulation-length game, breaking Michael Jordan's record of 23 free throws made (in 28 attempts) in a win over the New York Knicks on May 14, 1989.

His 24-for-24 from the line not only established an NBA record for free-throw attempts without a miss in a playoff game. That performance also exceeded the corresponding record for any regular-season game in NBA history. (Dominique Wilkins holds the regular-season mark: he went 23-for-23 from the line for the Atlanta Hawks in a game against the Chicago Bulls in 1992.)

In addition, he made 12 of 15 field-goal attempts. His total of 48 points was the highest in any playoff game in NBA history by a player who shot at least 80 percent from the floor. No other player had ever scored that many points in a postseason game while attempting fewer than 22 shots from the field. The previous fewest field-goal attempts was 22 by Bob Cousy on March 21, 1953 (50 points on 10/22 FG, 30/32 FT) -- and he needed four overtimes to reach those levels."

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-110518/daily-dime

ZONA
05-18-2011, 12:28 AM
Robin Lopez from NJ is a better center than Bynum. Odom is old, dead weight with a big contract. He'll show up occasionally, not often.

You mean Brook Lopez. And he's really not a center. His twin brother Robin Lopez plays for the Suns and is a center but he's slow and clumsy. Bynum would destroy Robin.

24champ
05-18-2011, 12:31 AM
Nowitzki had one of the greatest performances in playoff history last night, arguably the greatest individual performance in NBA playoff history. It's the most efficient 45+ point scoring game in the history of the NBA playoffs.

He averaged 3.2 points per shot. Thats about like pitching a perfect game in the American League Championship series, or throwing for 450 yards on 20 throws in the AFC title game.


http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-110518/daily-dime

Thanks for proving my point. BSPN is already comparing this performance as one of the all time greatest performances and telling its readers its on par with watching a pitcher pitch a perfect game in the ALCS. I'd say the appropriate analogy would be that tonight was on par with watching a Kicker in the NFL nail 5-7 straight chip shot field goals in the playoffs.

Its all part of the hype machine, early in the game Van Gundy said Dirk was a top 30 player and then by the end of the night he's being compared to Larry Bird/Top-5 player and that this was the greatest performance in the playoffs of all time. Hilarious!

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 01:05 AM
Thanks for proving my point. BSPN is already comparing this performance as one of the all time greatest performances and telling its readers its on par with watching a pitcher pitch a perfect game in the ALCS. I'd say the appropriate analogy would be that tonight was on par with watching a Kicker in the NFL nail 5-7 straight chip shot field goals in the playoffs.

Its all part of the hype machine, early in the game Van Gundy said Dirk was a top 30 player and then by the end of the night he's being compared to Larry Bird/Top-5 player and that this was the greatest performance in the playoffs of all time.

I guess this is the first time you have ever noticed Dirk. He's one of the top hand full of playoff performers of the last decade and his playoff numbers are in rarified air.

Dirk has led the Mavs to 11 straight years of 50 plus wins and climing. This is his 3rd trip to the conference finals and he has led the Mavs to the finals as a solo superstar....something that Bryant wasnt able to do.

Dirk is also steadily climbing up the all-time scoring list. He passed Larry Bird this season. He'll probably be in the top 20 (around 18 or so) after next season, and then will likely be in the top 15 the following season. The season after that he's headed for the top 5-7. That's if he averages about 23.5 points for the next 3 seasons.

This guy is climbing the ranks before your eyes. I have seen it happen with other greats, and its Dirk's time now.

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 01:51 AM
http://i53.tinypic.com/2mfdvsg.gif

Requiem
05-18-2011, 02:37 AM
Can't tell if that's an Epiphone or Gibson. Lulz. Headstock looks Epiphone.

SoonerBronco
05-18-2011, 06:02 AM
I don't care how many Dirk scores...you have to stop people like Barrea from getting 20. Simply put, losing by 9 at Dallas when Dirk scores 50, I'm not completely worried. He won't be able to do that night in and out.

OrangeSe7en
05-18-2011, 06:18 AM
I don't care how many Dirk scores...you have to stop people like Barrea from getting 20. Simply put, losing by 9 at Dallas when Dirk scores 50, I'm not completely worried. He won't be able to do that night in and out.

Well, considering half of that is from the foul line, you could also reasonably conclude that Durant and Westbrook wont shoot as many FTs either. OKC actually shot more FTs than Dallas.

But lets face it. Dirk has been hitting everything regardless of being closely guarded going back to the Lakers series. Thats a span of time going back a couple of weeks, which is a long run to shoot like that. If Dirk can sustain that kind of shooting over that long, it seems likely that the zone defense will have a greater effect on Westbrook for a longer period of time. Dirk is so hot right now, someone needs to be dedicated to denying him the ball, which is a pick your poison.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 06:51 AM
Yeah, unlike looking at statistics. I actually watched the game.


The Thunder attacked the basket, Dirk did the usual dribble and pull up for a shot. Some of the calls were laughable. I mean hell, Shaq in the early 2000's got much worse treatment every time he touched the ball in the paint and even with hack-a-shaq, never once got 13 free throws in a quarter! Hilarious!

Apparently, you either didn't really watch the game or you didn't know what you were seeing. Guys were called for fouls off the ball or while a move was being established. They tried to body him, put 2 hands on him or get underneath him. But we're going to act like the Thunder deserved all the FTs they took and the Mavs didn't? How? That's Maven-like logic.

"Dribble and pull up for a shot"....ahahahahaahhaa. Yeah. OK. He was cutting on the baseline, backing guys down, picking his spots. Look, if you don't like the guy, they just come out and say it. But don't act like you see 48 pts on 15 FGA every day of the week.

The Thunder are not a good defensive team. They're sloppy and try to scrap too much. Even in the Memphis series, the Grizzlies shot 30 FT/game. The Nuggets shot 36. Tonight was about on par for what opponents are putting up, FT-wise, against OKC. And in this series, there is NO ONE on that team that can defend Dirk. He's vastly improved from even 3-4 years ago. If you were watching last night, you saw him choose the right pass or, when fronted, stand in the corner and direct the offense from a distance. Now OKC is left with the question of whether to double-team him. That only opens up more problems for the opponent. Guys won't be able to camp on the shooters on the perimeter and the Thunder will be susceptible to guys being left wide open if Dirk passes out of the double. That PnR with Barea will be even more effective than it already was last night.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 06:54 AM
Dirk got his fouls on jump shots and fade aways.

LOL

SoonerBronco
05-18-2011, 06:58 AM
Well, considering half of that is from the foul line, you could also reasonably conclude that Durant and Westbrook wont shoot as many FTs either. OKC actually shot more FTs than Dallas.

But lets face it. Dirk has been hitting everything regardless of being closely guarded going back to the Lakers series. Thats a span of time going back a couple of weeks, which is a long run to shoot like that. If Dirk can sustain that kind of shooting over that long, it seems likely that the zone defense will have a greater effect on Westbrook for a longer period of time. Dirk is so hot right now, someone needs to be dedicated to denying him the ball, which is a pick your poison.

I can also conclude that Westbrook wont go 3-15 from the field either and by his standards struggle at the line. Thursday night is interesting...The Thunder are like 28-6 after a loss this season. It will be a good game, much like last night.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 07:02 AM
I can also conclude that Westbrook wont go 3-15 from the field either and by his standards struggle at the line. Thursday night is interesting...The Thunder are like 28-6 after a loss this season. It will be a good game, much like last night.

Jumpshooting, shot-hunting Westbrook is not a good version of him. The Mavs were working to collapse inside, allowing Westbrook to take those shots. They're there, but what he decides to do with them is in his hands now. He's not a strong shooter so it's not unreasonable to say he has another bad outing in him unless that shooting can improve or he can get even better looks.

TonyR
05-18-2011, 07:23 AM
Anybody hear George Karl on Dan Patrick this morning? I'll paraphrase:

DP: Who's better, Durant or Nowitzki?
GK: We actually have more trouble with Durant. Kenyon plays well against Dirk. But don't get me wrong, Dirk has dropped 40 on us.

DP: Is Nowitzki one of the top 10 players all time?
GK: (Chuckling) Well, in my time in NBA basketball you'd have to say he's a top 4-5 forward.

DP: Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki?
GK: (Laughing) Well, we're not going to go that high. Nobody is up there with Larry or Magic, or a guy named Michael.

DP: Charles Barkley or Dirk Nowitzki?
GK: I'd have to go with Dirk. More size, cleaner player, more versatile.

DP: Karl Malone or Dirk Nowitzki?
GK: I'd probably have to lean towards Dirk for the same reasons. But that's your best comparison. Karl Malone is the best comparison for Dirk.

Karenin
05-18-2011, 08:47 AM
what the ****? god george karl is a ****ing retard. how that dumb piece of **** is still in the nba is beyond me.

TonyR
05-18-2011, 08:52 AM
what the ****? god george karl is a ****ing retard. how that dumb piece of **** is still in the nba is beyond me.

LOL George Karl is the "retard" here?!? I think you just proved otherwise...

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 09:26 AM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/jurist_jc/dirk-nowitzki-focus-o.gif

TonyR
05-18-2011, 09:46 AM
Anybody hear George Karl on Dan Patrick this morning? I'll paraphrase:...

I forgot to mention that Karl thinks Rose is playing the best of any player right now because "it's a team game and he's playing the best team basketball", and then he said "but I still think LeBron is the best player".

SoonerBronco
05-18-2011, 10:30 AM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/jurist_jc/dirk-nowitzki-focus-o.gif



Suprised Crawford didn't call a foul here...

SoonerBronco
05-18-2011, 10:31 AM
what the ****? god george karl is a ****ing retard. how that dumb piece of **** is still in the nba is beyond me.



Wow...Thanks for that insight...

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 10:40 AM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/jurist_jc/dirk-nowitzki-focus-o.gif

I love that one.

Ibaka can't do anything but try to annoy Dirk by waving his hands. Dirk looks through his waving hand into his eyes as if to say "are you paying attention, because I'm about to hit this right in your face again" then he nails it right in his grill to extend the lead late in the fourth and jogs down the floor sneering in disapproval!

TonyR
05-18-2011, 10:42 AM
Dirk used to have the "soft" label liberally applied to him and with good reason. He used to fail in the playoffs largely because teams would get physical with him and get in his head. I haven't watched much of the playoffs this year but would be interested to hear from those who have, what is the difference this year? Has he learned to handle contact better than he used to, or is the officiating not allowing the physicality? Or is it a bit of both?

24champ
05-18-2011, 10:46 AM
Suprised Crawford didn't call a foul here...

He breathed on him on again. Can't do that when Dirk is squaring up to shoot.

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 10:47 AM
I can also conclude that Westbrook wont go 3-15 from the field either and by his standards struggle at the line. Thursday night is interesting...The Thunder are like 28-6 after a loss this season. It will be a good game, much like last night.

Westbrook has played poorly against the Mavs all season.

On another note, I can tell you that this was not a good game from the Mavs. It was an all-time great performance by Dirk, and Terry and Barea played well, but the Mavs were rusty on defense and several Mavs played rusty on both ends (Kidd, Peja, Chandler, Stevenson).

This was actually probably the worst defensive performance that the Mavs have played since the 4th quarter of game 4 of the Portland series...but Dirk refused to let the Mavs go down.

The Mavs are going to get better over the course of this series.

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 10:57 AM
Dirk used to have the "soft" label liberally applied to him and with good reason. He used to fail in the playoffs largely because teams would get physical with him and get in his head. I haven't watched much of the playoffs this year but would be interested to hear from those who have, what is the difference this year? Has he learned to handle contact better than he used to, or is the officiating not allowing the physicality? Or is it a bit of both?

Dirk has crazy playoff averages. He has outplayed Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Karl Malone, Chris Webber, etc. in the playoffs head to head. The "soft" label is probably more due to the fact that he's a white euro than due to what he has actually done.

What Dirk is doing now is not much different than what he has always done. The difference now is that other players are capitalizing on what he creates. He tilts the floor and pulls a big out of the lane, and one of the perimeter guards typically doubles him. That opens up the lane for guys like Chandler and Marion, and opens up shots on the weak side perimeter for guys like Kidd, Peja, and Terry. That Dirk/Barea pick and roll that has eaten up the last two teams is the same thing that he and Nash rode to the Conference Finals in 2003 before Dirk went down with a ligament injury to his knee and the Mavs lost to the Spurs.

You guys are just getting to see first hand what Mavs fans have seen for years.

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 11:01 AM
Can't tell if that's an Epiphone or Gibson. Lulz. Headstock looks Epiphone.

Yeah, its an Epiphone. Its probably one of the cheapest props the Mavs could find at the Guitar Center on I-75. The Epiphone Customs are around 5 bills. They probably borrowed it and took it back.

SoonerBronco
05-18-2011, 11:15 AM
He breathed on him on again. Can't do that when Dirk is squaring up to shoot.

I love hearing the "Thunder got more fouls than the Mavs" line today. Yeah, Westbrook was fouled 9 times, and Durant 10...

Dirk was fouled 16 times...

OKC was getting fouled going to the basket, Dirk was getting fouled with breath....

You can say that was bad defense from the MAVS, but if I was a betting man, I would say OKC steals game two in Dallas...losing by nine with Dirk playing one for the ages is not a comfortable position for the MAVs...this definitley isn't LA you guys are playing.:wiggle:

DHallblows
05-18-2011, 11:31 AM
Every star player in the NBA gets fouls called in their favor. That's how that joke of a league runs. It evens out as long as you have equal stars on both teams

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 11:35 AM
I love hearing the "Thunder got more fouls than the Mavs" line today. Yeah, Westbrook was fouled 9 times, and Durant 10...

Dirk was fouled 16 times...

OKC was getting fouled going to the basket, Dirk was getting fouled with breath....

You can say that was bad defense from the MAVS, but if I was a betting man, I would say OKC steals game two in Dallas...losing by nine with Dirk playing one for the ages is not a comfortable position for the MAVs...this definitley isn't LA you guys are playing.

They certainly aren't LA. LA was the two-time defending champion going for a three-peat.

As for the fouls, Westbrook and Durant both were getting touch fouls called in their favor. Westbrook would flail into the lane wildly and get bailed out. Durant had some invisible fouls as well.

All told the Thunder benefitted much more from the officiating than Dallas did. You guys have yet to see a good game from Dallas this year. It will be coming, so you guys better hope that the OKC players arent of the mindset that the fans are. They arent going to beat Dallas playing like they did last night.

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 11:37 AM
Every star player in the NBA gets fouls called in their favor. That's how that joke of a league runs. It evens out as long as you have equal stars on both teams

Sometimes that doesn't even help.

SoonerBronco
05-18-2011, 11:57 AM
They certainly aren't LA. LA was the two-time defending champion going for a three-peat.

As for the fouls, Westbrook and Durant both were getting touch fouls called in their favor. Westbrook would flail into the lane wildly and get bailed out. Durant had some invisible fouls as well.

All told the Thunder benefitted much more from the officiating than Dallas did. You guys have yet to see a good game from Dallas this year. It will be coming, so you guys better hope that the OKC players arent of the mindset that the fans are. They arent going to beat Dallas playing like they did last night.

Yeah, they benefited more...what a joke.

24champ
05-18-2011, 12:09 PM
I love hearing the "Thunder got more fouls than the Mavs" line today. Yeah, Westbrook was fouled 9 times, and Durant 10...

Dirk was fouled 16 times...

OKC was getting fouled going to the basket, Dirk was getting fouled with breath....

You can say that was bad defense from the MAVS, but if I was a betting man, I would say OKC steals game two in Dallas...losing by nine with Dirk playing one for the ages is not a comfortable position for the MAVs...this definitley isn't LA you guys are playing.:wiggle:

It was a joke, and what's more funny is BSPN was falling all over themselves by comparing Dirk to Larry Bird. Calling Dirk a top-5 player at the end of the game when in the first quarter the announcers were in agreement about Dirk being a top 30 player. He gets breathed on wrong and all of a sudden he's Larry Bird? Sorry, that's a ****ing joke.

SoonerBronco
05-18-2011, 12:10 PM
They certainly aren't LA. LA was the two-time defending champion going for a three-peat.

As for the fouls, Westbrook and Durant both were getting touch fouls called in their favor. Westbrook would flail into the lane wildly and get bailed out. Durant had some invisible fouls as well.

All told the Thunder benefitted much more from the officiating than Dallas did. You guys have yet to see a good game from Dallas this year. It will be coming, so you guys better hope that the OKC players arent of the mindset that the fans are. They arent going to beat Dallas playing like they did last night.

Yeah, they benefited more...what a joke.

TDmvp
05-18-2011, 12:27 PM
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4397/images2ju.jpg
Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!
:clown:

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 01:39 PM
Wait...so we're going to take away the FTs from the Mavs, but leave them for the Thunder? The Thunder are not a good defensive team and have NO answer for Dirk. There's that game and the series in a nutshell. All this "but the Thunder will do this" and "the Mavs won't do that" is bull****. They scored 121 in a playoff game. You should not be giving up that many points. And still, with 121, the Mavs still started slowly and had lulls and bad turnovers during the game. Quarters 2-4, the Thunder gave up 35-35-31. Free throws, schmee throws. That's bad defense.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 01:42 PM
It was a joke, and what's more funny is BSPN was falling all over themselves by comparing Dirk to Larry Bird. Calling Dirk a top-5 player at the end of the game when in the first quarter the announcers were in agreement about Dirk being a top 30 player. He gets breathed on wrong and all of a sudden he's Larry Bird? Sorry, that's a ****ing joke.

Why are you so enamored with what ESPN thinks?

Inkana7
05-18-2011, 02:01 PM
The Mavs also played piss poor defense.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 02:04 PM
The Mavs also played piss poor defense.

At times, yes. And they admitted as much. But, before last night, they hadn't allowed a 100pt game. It will come together.

Inkana7
05-18-2011, 02:23 PM
All this "but the Thunder will do this" and "the Mavs won't do that" is bull****.

At times, yes. And they admitted as much. But, before last night, they hadn't allowed a 100pt game. It will come together.

Heh.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 02:30 PM
Heh.

I'm not contradicting myself. The Mavs defense was rough last night. The team admitted as much and said the layoff had something to do with it. They'd been consistently strong before that. Which is more likely - the Mavs scoring 120 on some of the most efficient postseason offensive numbers of all-time OR the Thunder putting up 112 against a team that had defensive lapses? The biggest key between either comparison is the ultimate question of how the Thunder attempt to defend Dirk.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 02:35 PM
This, somehow, is Skip Bayless' idea on how to defend Dirk for an entire game. Throw Sefolosha on him:

http://www.dailythunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Picture-5.png

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 02:39 PM
Hoopdata is a strong read after any game:

http://www.hoopdata.com/blogengine/post/2011/05/18/Dallas-Re-defining-Efficiency.aspx

Bronco Vixen
05-18-2011, 03:13 PM
Wait...so we're going to take away the FTs from the Mavs, but leave them for the Thunder? The Thunder are not a good defensive team and have NO answer for Dirk. There's that game and the series in a nutshell. All this "but the Thunder will do this" and "the Mavs won't do that" is bull****. They scored 121 in a playoff game. You should not be giving up that many points. And still, with 121, the Mavs still started slowly and had lulls and bad turnovers during the game. Quarters 2-4, the Thunder gave up 35-35-31. Free throws, schmee throws. That's bad defense.

This has been my impression. They get a little slow and sloppy on their rotations and foul. They've done it in both series. Hell, if the stupid Nuggs shoot better than .0004% from the line, that's a completely different series. That said, there were some ridiculous calls last night, however that does not take away from the fact that they have no idea what to do with Ms. Nowitski. I don't care what anyone says, that was a performance for the ages.

On another note, what the hell is wrong with Westbrook? He's getting looks. I feel like he's pouting about all of a sudden. Did Durant & crew say something to him about his foolish end of game behavior (i.e., trying to be the man, taking hideous shots)?

Bronco Vixen
05-18-2011, 03:14 PM
This, somehow, is Skip Bayless' idea on how to defend Dirk for an entire game. Throw Sefolosha on him:

http://www.dailythunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Picture-5.png

"Literally" apparently.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 03:25 PM
Ms. Nowitski.

Who?

OrangeSe7en
05-18-2011, 04:14 PM
This has been my impression. They get a little slow and sloppy on their rotations and foul. They've done it in both series. Hell, if the stupid Nuggs shoot better than .0004% from the line, that's a completely different series. That said, there were some ridiculous calls last night, however that does not take away from the fact that they have no idea what to do with Ms. Nowitski. I don't care what anyone says, that was a performance for the ages.

On another note, what the hell is wrong with Westbrook? He's getting looks. I feel like he's pouting about all of a sudden. Did Durant & crew say something to him about his foolish end of game behavior (i.e., trying to be the man, taking hideous shots)?

They threw a zone at him. And it worked. It almost seems like if he's having success gettng to the basket, he then starts to "feel it" from out side. They were discouraging him from driving last night.

OrangeSe7en
05-18-2011, 04:20 PM
I can also conclude that Westbrook wont go 3-15 from the field either and by his standards struggle at the line. Thursday night is interesting...The Thunder are like 28-6 after a loss this season. It will be a good game, much like last night.

They threw a zone at him and made it hard to get to the basket. Thats what jumpstarts a lot of his offense. He gets easy baskets by driving. If you make him a jump shooter, you could easily see his share of 3/15s.

Dirk's been on another level. He's been knocking down shots in the face of good defense.

24champ
05-18-2011, 04:29 PM
you have to stop people like Barrea from getting 20.


http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq200/stereolith/SoundofBarea1.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 05:08 PM
This, somehow, is Skip Bayless' idea on how to defend Dirk for an entire game. Throw Sefolosha on him:

http://www.dailythunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Picture-5.png

Thats not a foul!! Ha!

TonyR
05-18-2011, 05:29 PM
Is it just me or is the fact that Durant went 40-8 being completely ignored?

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2011, 05:33 PM
Is it just me or is the fact that Durant went 40-8 being completely ignored?

It was a great game, but Dirk's game was just that good...that it completely overshadowed a pretty dang good game by another star player.

It seems like people were mesmerized by watching shot after shot crash the net. Its all people have been talking about today. "The greatest shooting performance of all-time", "The white Jordan", "We have a black mamba, now we have a white mamba." Seriously, I have heard those things from radio and/or TV people today. Dirk delivered the type of performance that people are awestruck by. It was literally an all-time great performance.

TDmvp
05-18-2011, 06:05 PM
Dang !!!! ... or Deng even ...

Gutless Drunk
05-18-2011, 06:13 PM
Cracks me up that people don't understand what happened last night. I am no Dallas or Nowitzki fan, but the dude went 36 of 39. I don't care what the calls were or if he was shooting free throws. It's damn near impossible to go 36 for 39 alone in a damn gym much less in an NBA game. Give the dude his props...it's amazing.
In an era of volume scorers like Kobe and Melo, it's refreshing to see that type of efficiency.

maven
05-18-2011, 06:51 PM
Up 2 at halftime.

Heat are going to pull this motha****ing out baby! Just need to steal a game in Chicago and we got this.

http://www.robinashley.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/heatone.jpg

maven
05-18-2011, 06:52 PM
http://test.myhiphoplife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/lebron-james-miami-heat.jpg

I will bring this series back to South Beach tied 1-1

maven
05-18-2011, 06:57 PM
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4397/images2ju.jpg


http://vglounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cmonson.gif

Inkana7
05-18-2011, 06:58 PM
hahaha what a bandwagon piece of trash

maven
05-18-2011, 07:01 PM
hahaha what a bandwagon piece of trash

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/raphtmarqui/IdontcareKobewhoMypreciousPSPFun-2.gif

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 07:13 PM
Seriously, Maven. That's some weak ****.

maven
05-18-2011, 07:14 PM
Seriously, Maven. That's some weak ****.

Just need a split. That is all I want.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 07:16 PM
Ugly game.

maven
05-18-2011, 07:18 PM
Missed you all season Haslem. Keep it up BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 07:31 PM
Missed you all season Haslem. Keep it up BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Missed you for 3 days following that game 1 loss.

maven
05-18-2011, 07:39 PM
Missed you for 3 days following that game 1 loss.

I had business to take care of.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2011, 07:40 PM
I had business to take care of.

Business that magically lasted from the loss until halftime tonight? What an amazing coincidence.

maven
05-18-2011, 07:47 PM
You kidding about the ratings right? With Lakers and Boston out no one will be watching. I bet it will be a poor rating for the finals.

Well this is the Eastern Conference Finals. Game 1 was the most viewed NBA game in cable history.

maven
05-18-2011, 07:57 PM
Same old story. This will determine the season. Can they hit the shots at the end.

maven
05-18-2011, 08:07 PM
http://test.myhiphoplife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/lebron-james-miami-heat.jpg

I will bring this series back to South Beach tied 1-1

ROFL!

DHallblows
05-18-2011, 08:10 PM
lol what a bandwagon POS

OrangeSe7en
05-18-2011, 08:11 PM
LOL. And this is why no one respects heat fans.

maven
05-18-2011, 08:14 PM
LOL. And this is why no one respects heat fans.

http://test.myhiphoplife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/lebron-james-miami-heat.jpg

OrangeSe7en
05-18-2011, 08:14 PM
Business that magically lasted from the loss until halftime tonight? What an amazing coincidence.

He had to take a maven and his toilet broke.

maven
05-18-2011, 08:15 PM
Nice to see you back!

http://www.browsebiography.com/images/5/9476-Udonis_Haslem_bio.jpg

OrangeSe7en
05-18-2011, 08:15 PM
http://test.myhiphoplife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/lebron-james-miami-heat.jpg

You're a piece of trash, dude. GTFO.

maven
05-18-2011, 08:16 PM
Oh man oh man!!!!!!!!!! I knew they could do it!

maven
05-18-2011, 08:18 PM
You're a piece of trash, dude. GTFO.

Sorry pal, LeBron>Rose

DHallblows
05-18-2011, 08:18 PM
Nice to see you back!

http://www.browsebiography.com/images/5/9476-Udonis_Haslem_bio.jpg

I'd like to say the same to you, maven...
Are you intentionally doing this or are you unaware of your douchebaggery?

maven
05-18-2011, 08:20 PM
espn.com

top headline

"The Closer"

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0518/nba_g_lebron14_576.jpg

OrangeSe7en
05-18-2011, 08:21 PM
Sorry pal, LeBron>Rose

The only thing thats more of a bitch move than disappearing after you lose by 21 points is coming back after you win. You're just sad and pathetic.

maven
05-18-2011, 08:22 PM
The only thing thats more of a b**** move than disappearing after you lose by 21 points is coming back after you win. You're just sad and pathetic.

It's true right?

LeBron>Rose

ROFL!